From nobody Mon Nov 3 16:12:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BE81A1AF1 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 16:12:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.794 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.794 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LNTXcnCGbYAG for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 16:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A08401A1AEF for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 16:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BLG18784; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 00:12:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.35) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 00:12:48 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.205]) by SZXEMA403-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.35]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:12:45 +0800 From: Likepeng To: "Ace@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Agenda for IETF 91 Thread-Index: AQHP98QOCkuGbjnG6k2a9nGhnTkkKA== Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 00:12:44 +0000 Message-ID: <34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AB6B1@SZXEMA501-MBS.china.huawei.com> References: <46A1DF3F04371240B504290A071B4DB63E7A6329@SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <46A1DF3F04371240B504290A071B4DB63E7A6329@SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.46.30.196] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AB6B1SZXEMA501MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/mURjOh4LMCX83zRZFfL9TieB8ZM Cc: "hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net" Subject: [Ace] Agenda for IETF 91 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 00:12:57 -0000 --_000_34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AB6B1SZXEMA501MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Please find agenda for IETF 91 F2F meeting: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda/agenda-91-ace Please let us know if you have any agenda changes. Thanks, Kind Regards Kepeng & Hannes --_000_34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AB6B1SZXEMA501MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all,

 

Please find agenda for IETF 91 F2F meeting:

<= a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda/agenda-91-ace">http://w= ww.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda/agenda-91-ace

 

Please let us know if you have any agenda changes.

 

Thanks,

 

Kind Regards

Kepeng & Hannes

 

--_000_34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AB6B1SZXEMA501MBSchi_-- From nobody Tue Nov 4 11:05:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23121ACDC9 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:05:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.85 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.85 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iDpG-gZ7Q_qI for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:05:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40B881A6FC7 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:05:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sA4J4v94008815; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:04:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from eduroam-pool7-0754.wlan.uni-bremen.de (eduroam-pool7-0754.wlan.uni-bremen.de [134.102.114.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 87AAE206; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:04:57 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.0 \(1990.1\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <46A1DF3F04371240B504290A071B4DB63E7A63DF@SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:04:56 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3F7654D6-66EF-49A6-978A-99409ABC6105@tzi.org> References: <46A1DF3F04371240B504290A071B4DB63E7A63DF@SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com> To: Bert Greevenbosch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1990.1) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/nlWLkCYuvBS9KAt5__US2BGx158 Cc: "Ace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ace] Upload of ACE for Resource Directory draft (correction) X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 19:05:43 -0000 Bert, I=E2=80=99d actually like to discuss this draft in the core meeting. To me, this is more about authorization requirements in the resource = directory than things that ACE specifically has to achieve in its = protocol. But maybe we need to discuss this. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On 29 Oct 2014, at 03:25, Bert Greevenbosch = wrote: >=20 > I made a typo in the previous e-mail: the RD is implemented as a CoAP = server, not a CoAP client. > --- > Hi all, > =20 > On Monday, I uploaded a draft that applies ACE to the Resource = Directory. > =20 > = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-greevenbosch-ace-resource-directory/= > =20 > Since the Resource Directory is implemented as a CoAP server, ideally = we can use standard ACE to protect it. The draft's aim is to describe = how to do this. > =20 > However, since the ACE architecture is not yet chosen, the draft = currently remains fairly high level, and mainly describes issues and = related requirements for a solution to be described later. > =20 > The draft is informative, as its goal is not to specify new = technology, but rather to describe how ACE can be used for protection of = the RD. I also think it is a good opportunity to see how ACE works in a = practical situation. > =20 > Comments are welcome. > =20 > Best regards, > Bert > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace From nobody Tue Nov 4 16:29:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F231A8750; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:29:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.795 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.795 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ooA-mV7bGs9K; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB4761A1AB5; 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Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bert.greevenbosch@huawei.com OpenPGP: id=4D776BC9 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FA0C1wtvIH7kXdVW1itBqtV9G8vx6Wxlu" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:c/AVBB0hId6bWOOMpobzw+RMo8p65x7866dgqh6VcO8mP4rVAif 5I1OAY4tLJDajoPAHzi79VOAXz2OYhQHKGDxgq5+YbMs6XaGLPiV97MxiSbdAtepkY7mw98 yeBVAREGulWaHGocVrMsEV88GfZDCN5q941M+tntI71KEQVCvrYb4xpbcR7QeKSNF+CApy9 +HDBLj+0+Jmv065pTedzQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/-wq3wc3fD4Cg4jLP7gu6hnzBYO8 Cc: "Ace@ietf.org" Subject: [Ace] Notes about OAuth analysis in draft-greevenbosch-ace-comparison X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:50:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FA0C1wtvIH7kXdVW1itBqtV9G8vx6Wxlu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bert, Hi all, I wanted to provide a brief, written response to your ACE presentation at IETF91 in http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-ace-3.pp= tx The model used by draft-wahlstroem-ace-oauth-iot and by token introspection is the following: Client -> AS: Request Access Token Client <- AS: Get Handle to Access Token Client -> RS: Send Access Token Handle RS -> AS: Token Introspection Req. (Access Token Handle) RS <- AS: Token Introspection Resp. (Content of Access Token) While this is not directly a pull model it does not match the indirect push model described in the slide set either. I am not sure any proposal uses the indirect push model described in your figure. OAuth is typically described in a three party setup (since it is a common deployment very much like Kerberos is described as a three party protocol as well). However, it may also have more entities if the AS and the RS belong to separate administrative domains. As I mentioned in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tschofenig-ace-overview-00 there is also this Kantara UMA work, which builds on OAuth extensions, to extend the model. In fact, the number of parties is not a good measure overall since any of the protocols can easily utilize more parties. Just consider how complex AAA/EAP deployments and PKI deployments can get in a real world environment. Regarding the ticket format OAuth provides a lot of flexibility since the access token is opaque to the client (and with token introspection also for the RS). This means that you can use any format you like, including the JWT format or a new design. Regarding the protocol stack the OAuth-IoT proposal changed the transport from HTTP to CoAP for the communication between the client and the AS. For the client to RS communication it really depends on the environment; a number of possible deployments are easy to imagine, including exchanging access tokens inside a Bluetooth Smart GATT exchange, a DTLS/CoAP exchange, or a CoAP with application layer security= =2E As you see so far, OAuth provides a lot of flexibility to deal with the variety of requirements from different environments and the same is true for client credentials. You can use a shared secret or an asymmetric credential for client authentication in OAuth. It is not outside the scope but rather left to the deployment to decide what is best. The OAuth IoT drafts define new CoAP options to communicate the access token from the client to the resource server. I guess all solutions will have to find out a way to convey the token/ticket/cert/etc. from the client to the RS somehow. Whether this is inside the CoAP exchange or somewhere else does not really matter. In the end you mention that "OAuth are trying to tweak a solution that was not designed for IoT towards IoT.". It sounded as this would be negative but, as Erik mentioned, you could also see this as an advantage in a number of ways (particularly for those who have existing deployment experience with OAuth already). Ciao Hannes --FA0C1wtvIH7kXdVW1itBqtV9G8vx6Wxlu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJUZA42AAoJEGhJURNOOiAtMYcH/ibu2qZy4i5sBP1IZSZQKfOM HTa5+bX5ikO05EnCKEMemAKCl0GPLtP3cwzWL6w1wjHPGuuDcH5L4l64dW46Lueq Jb8pvxMyCkbWhkrJQlT6RwkG+gFDTD0FC8apOe7njuY+/78wVpXZmvzFHyrY1B9b Wa9N9isPQBGxzo1Cx8RIJ1FnVMXaUx9++HBvsDJ4HE7enndqFKGDTtNWu6t7tR7Y uzueLleKx/irsLtLCLr2TA8v3vQc9ohB94eOmRUFtFzCRsI4Uqm2Wp3YhwIEmCyw kj6VOqnl78MmQyt5PMIxiRr3pBlsPkeKKfT8VaJxSx3yffmbX2ES58MrU4RP4A4= =uyBN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FA0C1wtvIH7kXdVW1itBqtV9G8vx6Wxlu-- From nobody Wed Nov 12 20:45:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DB31A1B62; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:45:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.794 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.794 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WdJ69uRUAn2G; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:45:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA8AD1A1B5E; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml405-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BLO58816; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 04:45:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA412-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.71) by lhreml405-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.242) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 04:45:43 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.205]) by SZXEMA412-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.71]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:45:37 +0800 From: Likepeng To: "saag@ietf.org" , "Ace@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: ACE meeting summary Thread-Index: Ac/+/KRmKDGKezptQZKSRX8bN7DYIw== Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 04:45:37 +0000 Message-ID: <34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AF996@SZXEMA501-MBS.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.46.110.77] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AF996SZXEMA501MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/QwFAPNnWRfAOI_To0dGK8QmVS2Y Cc: Kathleen Moriarty , "hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net" Subject: [Ace] ACE meeting summary X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 04:45:49 -0000 --_000_34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AF996SZXEMA501MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ACE WG Meeting IETF 91 - Honolulu Wednesday 12 November 2014, 13:00 - 15:00 HST Chairs: Kepeng Li, Hannes Tschofenig * Use Cases (Sandeep Kumar, 30 mins) - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-seitz-ace-usecases/ 7 use cases should cover most interesting IoT areas. Updates include the nu= merous feedback and change of focus, requirements removed. About 20 participants haves read the draft. There were some comments to rem= ove the requirements from the document. Also there were some comments to ad= d more use cases to cover industrial control, etc. Humm result is to adopt this document as WG document, and this will be conf= irmed in the mailing list. * Actors (Carsten Bormann, 25 mins) - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gerdes-ace-actors/ Several participants show interests to this draft. Open issues: 1) Should we reuse existing terminologies in other standards, or should we = use new terminologies? 2) Should we keep CAM and SAM separately? 3) Should we move some terminologies into use case document, or keep this d= ocument standalone or move it to the solution draft? Continue the discussion in the mailing list. * Architecture Comparison (Bert Greevenbosch, 25 mins) - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-greevenbosch-ace-comparison/ This document compares several technical solutions for ACE on the table. Co= mpared 5 different solutions in this draft. There were some discussions about Pull model, OAuth and DCAF solution. Continue the discussion in the mailing list. * Object Security (John Mattsson, 30 mins) - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-object-security/ There were comments about the reuse of CBOR and JOSE. There was a question about the additional overhead. Continue the discussion in the mailing list. * Wrap-up (Chairs, 5 mins) - Use case document was most important, audience voted for adoption, please= still provide input on additional use cases. - We are not yet there to go for solutions, so no adoptions there. - Aiming for next IETF meeting to go into solution space. - Webinar on IoT hardware: another round specifically on energy-efficiency = (Doodle). - Some data points on ECC performance will be sent around. Please refer to discussion details in: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ace/minutes Kind Regards Kepeng --_000_34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AF996SZXEMA501MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ACE WG Meeting

IETF 91 - Honolulu

Wednesday 12 November 2014, = 13:00 - 15:00 HST

Chairs: Kepeng Li, Hannes Ts= chofenig

 

* Use Cases (Sandeep Kumar, = 30 mins) 

   - http://datatracker.ie= tf.org/doc/draft-seitz-ace-usecases/

 

7 use cases should cover mos= t interesting IoT areas. Updates include the numerous feedback and change o= f focus, requirements removed.

 

About 20 participants haves = read the draft. There were some comments to remove the requirements from th= e document. Also there were some comments to add more use cases to cover in= dustrial control, etc.

 

Humm result is to adopt this= document as WG document, and this will be confirmed in the mailing list.

 

* Actors (Carsten Bormann, 2= 5 mins)

   - http://datatracker.ie= tf.org/doc/draft-gerdes-ace-actors/

 

Several participants show in= terests to this draft. Open issues:

1) Should we reuse existing = terminologies in other standards, or should we use new terminologies?<= /o:p>

2) Should we keep CAM and SA= M separately?

3) Should we move some termi= nologies into use case document, or keep this document standalone or move i= t to the solution draft?

 

Continue the discussion in t= he mailing list.

 

* Architecture Comparison (B= ert Greevenbosch, 25 mins) 

   - http://datatracker.ie= tf.org/doc/draft-greevenbosch-ace-comparison/<= /p>

 

This document compares sever= al technical solutions for ACE on the table. Compared 5 different solutions= in this draft.

 

There were some discussions = about Pull model, OAuth and DCAF solution.

 

Continue the discussion in t= he mailing list.

 

* Object Security (John Matt= sson, 30 mins)

   - http://datatracker.ie= tf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-object-security/=

 

There were comments about th= e reuse of CBOR and JOSE.

 

There was a question about t= he additional overhead.

 

Continue the discussion in t= he mailing list.

 

* Wrap-up (Chairs, 5 mins)

 

- Use case document was most= important, audience voted for adoption, please still provide input on addi= tional use cases.

- We are not yet there to go= for solutions, so no adoptions there.

- Aiming for next IETF meeti= ng to go into solution space.

- Webinar on IoT hardware: a= nother round specifically on energy-efficiency (Doodle).<= /p>

- Some data points on ECC pe= rformance will be sent around.

 

Please refer to discussion d= etails in:

= http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ace/minutes

 

Kind Regards

Kepeng

 

--_000_34966E97BE8AD64EAE9D3D6E4DEE36F2581AF996SZXEMA501MBSchi_-- From nobody Wed Nov 19 01:14:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA44E1ACFEA for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 01:14:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.494 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.494 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wTmXUoSmJrSP for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 01:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B02D1ACFEB for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 01:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.131.129] ([80.92.115.84]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LcFTN-1YGlFM3HlN-00jduX for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:13:54 +0100 Message-ID: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:13:52 +0100 From: Hannes Tschofenig User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ace@ietf.org" OpenPGP: id=4D776BC9 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TVXaXoXfEBGI95nO465mLhBO03t0XST6B" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:dpBSPduQ4RCy4LdRkbpRjZ7gQPPoKtW9AgcseD0+pfL5IdvO3ct W+kDGgIO+f8sohABTAq3LBTJmBy2dGEl/21IMieiLiltxkiTC5yXO0BeR1nK598lEA4GAQr yeb7SXVt8JH+LJveL40WNlli4NUzoOZAm0oY8HjM+ZsnjK1A8u64KCpVYV8EVj4I4hLrz/n lFaxn3tbVfrcFwcE2/T0A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/PJi7M7JVK4WsKUC0XRfBB0oBYBk Subject: [Ace] Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:14:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --TVXaXoXfEBGI95nO465mLhBO03t0XST6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 to be adopted as an ACE working group item. 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The Call ends on December 3, 201= 4. Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the document as a starting point for what will be the final product of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to the document according to the normal consensus process. There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at IETF 91 in Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close of this Call. Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition, preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item. 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Ciao Hannes & Kepeng --4Kl2xPHvsDSkHRXDWe1BbtnqBlO9n6V3r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJUbHFzAAoJEGhJURNOOiAtrHEH/0gn5LGpsPkq2eI/p8efsVLQ igiAYN4XxXqDTy7EK+v2r+GGoZsezyBMtRgdIypncDsiqyzGQlUwPFELhLYnWG++ W3EcxhjqRfG4IqG/80FF8v0alAPUP0oW7ebli+1EPHb2Mxn3+GyIP+k8+AjHj0tH OpRabRvj236MnivdqFeL5rTJJwaz/1ZKedK9KtwXSSdiODWVXGgEiht0wncId7MT aOR/MwQuqxCHpvnjTPSfmp9TLp9EhCJRBLPHqi7D/ruESEBuUub7d4/o4Nnu46G8 ECQWyAGRuqR8E6ulnSY3XK7yAMKlLNqpvsaf80VHxYZfOpdprCNnn7Qt5o8vj5k= =BYDs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Kl2xPHvsDSkHRXDWe1BbtnqBlO9n6V3r-- From nobody Wed Nov 19 02:34:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C641A1BE7 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 02:34:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.144 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.144 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BUSXMfM2uMY7 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 02:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from outbox.sics.se (outbox.sics.se [193.10.64.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D99E1ACFA5 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 02:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from e-mailfilter01.sunet.se (e-mailfilter01.sunet.se [192.36.171.201]) by outbox.sics.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3BDB1974 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:34:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from letter.sics.se (letter.sics.se [193.10.64.6]) by e-mailfilter01.sunet.se (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id sAJAY9Al017669 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:34:09 +0100 Received: from norm.sics.se (norm.sics.se [193.10.64.192]) by letter.sics.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F4C740118 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:34:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.108] (unknown [85.235.11.178]) by norm.sics.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C34E2F4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:34:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <546C721B.7070906@sics.se> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:34:03 +0100 From: Ludwig Seitz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ace@ietf.org References: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> <546C6513.1040508@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <546C6513.1040508@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070903030109080906000500" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outbound, outbound-sics-se:default, sics-se:default, base:default, @@RPTN) X-p0f-Info: os=Solaris 10, link=Ethernet or modem X-CanIt-Geo: =?UTF-8?Q?ip=3D85.235.11.178; _country=3DSE; _region=3DSk=C3=A5ne; _city=3DLund; _latitude=3D55.7028; _longitude=3D13.1927; _http://maps.google.com/maps=3Fq=3D55.7028,13.1927&z=3D6?= X-CanItPRO-Stream: outbound-sics-se:outbound (inherits from outbound-sics-se:default, sics-se:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 09Nhmy9WN - f5b163b124bc - 20141119 X-Antispam-Training-Forget: https://canit.sunet.se/canit/b.php?i=09Nhmy9WN&m=f5b163b124bc&t=20141119&c=f X-Antispam-Training-Nonspam: https://canit.sunet.se/canit/b.php?i=09Nhmy9WN&m=f5b163b124bc&t=20141119&c=n X-Antispam-Training-Spam: https://canit.sunet.se/canit/b.php?i=09Nhmy9WN&m=f5b163b124bc&t=20141119&c=s X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: PfMRe/vJWMiXwM2YIH5BVExnUnw X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.36.171.201 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/6I-ZeC8X8LtIlK3Evf3iUIslx9s Subject: Re: [Ace] CORRECTION -- Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:34:14 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070903030109080906000500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/19/2014 10:38 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 to= > be adopted as an ACE working group item. The Call ends on December 3, 2= 014. > > Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document > as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the > document as a starting point for what will be the final product > of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to > the document according to the normal consensus process. > > There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at > IETF 91 in Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close > of this Call. > > Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition, > preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item. > > Ciao > Hannes & Kepeng > > I support adoption (obviously, I am one of the authors) and I am willing = to continue to contribute to this work. /Ludwig --=20 Ludwig Seitz, PhD SICS Swedish ICT AB Ideon Science Park Building Beta 2 Scheelev=E4gen 17 SE-223 70 Lund Phone +46(0)70-349 92 51 http://www.sics.se --------------ms070903030109080906000500 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMVDCC BhgwggUAoAMCAQICAwiRTjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCBjDELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwxFjAUBgNV BAoTDVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKzApBgNVBAsTIlNlY3VyZSBEaWdpdGFsIENlcnRpZmljYXRl 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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ace@ietf.org References: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000607090609040707010609" X-Authenticated-As: robert.cragie@gridmerge.com X-Extend-Src: mailout Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/kz_Qr6x5HZheydfcVVWs72kbxmk Subject: Re: [Ace] Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert.cragie@gridmerge.com List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:59:09 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000607090609040707010609 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080506010203010604060907" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080506010203010604060907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I support adoption of draft-seitz-ace-usecases as a WG item and will be=20 happy to contribute to further use cases and review the document going=20 forward. Robert On 19/11/2014 9:13 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 to= > be adopted as an ACE working group item. The Call ends on November 3, 2= 014. > > Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document > as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the > document as a starting point for what will be the final product > of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to > the document according to the normal consensus process. > > There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at > IETF 91 in Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close > of this Call. > > Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition, > preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item. > > Ciao > Hannes & Kepeng > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace --------------080506010203010604060907 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I support adoption of draft-seitz-ace-usecases as a WG item and will be happy to contribute to further use cases and review the document going forward.

Robert

On 19/11/2014 9:13 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz=
-ace-usecases-02	to
be adopted as an ACE working group item. The Call ends on November 3, 201=
4.

Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document
as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the
document as a starting point for what will be the final product
of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to
the document according to the normal consensus process.

There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at
IETF 91 in Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close
of this Call.

Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition,
preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item.

Ciao
Hannes & Kepeng




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ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:17:03 -0000 I have read the draft and followed the discussion on the mailing list. I support the adoption of this draft as an ACE WG item. +Syam Sent from my iPad > On Nov 19, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Hannes Tschofenig = wrote: >=20 > This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 to= > be adopted as an ACE working group item. The Call ends on December 3, 2014= . >=20 > Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document > as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the > document as a starting point for what will be the final product > of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to > the document according to the normal consensus process. >=20 > There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at > IETF 91 in Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close > of this Call. >=20 > Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition, > preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item. >=20 > Ciao > Hannes & Kepeng >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace From nobody Wed Nov 19 19:06:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17591A0016 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:06:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.795 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.795 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YgRutiAj93m4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB4791A0013 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BLV20114; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 03:06:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEML401-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.31) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 03:06:20 +0000 Received: from szxeml557-mbs.china.huawei.com ([169.254.6.57]) by szxeml401-hub.china.huawei.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:06:16 +0800 From: "Hedanping (Ana)" To: "Ace@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Ace] CORRECTION -- Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 Thread-Index: AQHQA9yhdTyByGI/dEGkoPlKJ7w0U5xozHng Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 03:06:16 +0000 Message-ID: <77FA386512F0D748BC7C02C36EB1106D8E4B8A@szxeml557-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> <546C6513.1040508@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <546C6513.1040508@gmx.net> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.95.23] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/jTh2seffK646rmKZFy-72fzJJNc Subject: Re: [Ace] CORRECTION -- Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 03:06:25 -0000 I support the adoption of this draft. The target is to derive a general and= comprehensive requirements from the use cases, and I will be happy to cont= ribute on it. Regards, Danping =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ace [mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:38 PM > To: Ace@ietf.org > Subject: [Ace] CORRECTION -- Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-= 02 >=20 > This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 to > be adopted as an ACE working group item. The Call ends on December 3, 201= 4. >=20 > Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document as-is= is > ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the document as a start= ing > point for what will be the final product of the ACE working group. The wo= rking > group is free to make changes to the document according to the normal > consensus process. >=20 > There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at IETF 91 in > Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close of this Call. >=20 > Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition, > preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item. >=20 > Ciao > Hannes & Kepeng >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From nobody Thu Nov 20 01:25:55 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDA51A0118 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:25:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.246 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.246 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w0cP3LhEi3sZ for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:25:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ladislav.ifi.uzh.ch (ladislav.ifi.uzh.ch [130.60.156.19]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0931A011D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from authenticated sender schmitt by ladislav.ifi.uzh.ch (postfix) with ESMTPSA id SA for <142B976092>; ace@ietf.org Message-ID: <546DB39B.3060603@ifi.uzh.ch> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:25:47 +0100 From: Corinna Schmitt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ace@ietf.org References: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020703090307070306080105" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at ladislav X-Virus-Status: Clean Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/3MaGjmbd10l7pkVyiFSPo9k2-Z8 Subject: Re: [Ace] Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:25:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020703090307070306080105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I followed the draft discussion and also discussed several times with Ludwig offline. The draft looks very well and I will be happy to support Ludwig in updates and , thus, I am for the adoption. +Corinna Am 19.11.14 um 10:13 schrieb Hannes Tschofenig: > This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 to > be adopted as an ACE working group item. The Call ends on November 3, 2014. > > Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document > as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the > document as a starting point for what will be the final product > of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to > the document according to the normal consensus process. > > There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at > IETF 91 in Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close > of this Call. > > Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition, > preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item. > > Ciao > Hannes & Kepeng > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace -- --------------020703090307070306080105 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------000304070601040108040908" --------------000304070601040108040908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I followed the draft discussion and also discussed several times with Ludwig offline.
The draft looks very well and I will be happy to support Ludwig in updates and , thus, I am for the adoption.

+Corinna

Am 19.11.14 um 10:13 schrieb Hannes Tschofenig:
This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02	to
be adopted as an ACE working group item. The Call ends on November 3, 2014.

Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document
as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the
document as a starting point for what will be the final product
of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to
the document according to the normal consensus process.

There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at
IETF 91 in Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close
of this Call.

Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition,
preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item.

Ciao
Hannes & Kepeng




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ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CC61A011D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:44:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.495 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.495 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1qGqujb78hH7 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from xenon22.um.es (xenon22.um.es [155.54.212.162]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6AD1A014D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xenon22.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667AF28A7; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:44:46 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by antispam in UMU at xenon22.um.es Received: from xenon22.um.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xenon22.um.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eirARyfFI5DQ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:44:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.44] (242.Red-88-9-200.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [88.9.200.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: rafa) by xenon22.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B31127E5; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:44:44 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Rafa Marin Lopez In-Reply-To: <546C6513.1040508@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:44:44 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <57D31962-CD92-4E7F-8169-238195D6255A@um.es> References: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> <546C6513.1040508@gmx.net> To: Hannes Tschofenig X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/VAgcWLfe5NVOAFy9TNCQAIrilac Cc: Rafa Marin Lopez , "Ace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ace] CORRECTION -- Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:44:53 -0000 Dear all: I am in favor of adopting this document. I think it is a good starting = point for identifying use cases. Best Regards. El 19/11/2014, a las 10:38, Hannes Tschofenig = escribi=F3: > This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 = to > be adopted as an ACE working group item. The Call ends on December 3, = 2014. >=20 > Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document > as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the > document as a starting point for what will be the final product > of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to > the document according to the normal consensus process. >=20 > There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at > IETF 91 in Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close > of this Call. >=20 > Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition, > preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item. >=20 > Ciao > Hannes & Kepeng >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace ------------------------------------------------------- Rafael Marin Lopez, PhD Dept. Information and Communications Engineering (DIIC) Faculty of Computer Science-University of Murcia 30100 Murcia - Spain Telf: +34868888501 Fax: +34868884151 e-mail: rafa@um.es ------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Thu Nov 20 01:46:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB681A0145 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:46:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.795 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.795 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i8UoZUMxVbDf for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E67031A00A7 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BOZ97749; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:46:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.35) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:46:18 +0000 Received: from NKGEML507-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.6.104]) by nkgeml404-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.35]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:46:13 +0800 From: "Zhangdacheng (Dacheng)" To: Rafa Marin Lopez , Hannes Tschofenig Thread-Topic: [Ace] CORRECTION -- Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 Thread-Index: AQHQBKamFD7Su8ELAUqT+rWY84wxgpxpRAtA Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:46:12 +0000 Message-ID: References: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> <546C6513.1040508@gmx.net> <57D31962-CD92-4E7F-8169-238195D6255A@um.es> In-Reply-To: <57D31962-CD92-4E7F-8169-238195D6255A@um.es> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.98.139] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/JZN3erG6WNOo6jxskZArrzZ-Fp0 Cc: "Ace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ace] CORRECTION -- Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:46:25 -0000 I agree that this doc could be a good start and support to adopt it.=20 Cheers Dacheng > -----Original Message----- > From: Ace [mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rafa Marin Lopez > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:45 PM > To: Hannes Tschofenig > Cc: Rafa Marin Lopez; Ace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] CORRECTION -- Call For Adoption: > draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 >=20 > Dear all: >=20 > I am in favor of adopting this document. I think it is a good starting po= int for > identifying use cases. >=20 > Best Regards. > El 19/11/2014, a las 10:38, Hannes Tschofenig > escribi=F3: >=20 > > This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 to > > be adopted as an ACE working group item. The Call ends on December 3, > 2014. > > > > Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document > > as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the > > document as a starting point for what will be the final product of the > > ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to the > > document according to the normal consensus process. > > > > There was favorable hum toward adoption of this document at IETF 91 in > > Hawaii. We will factor this into the decision at the close of this > > Call. > > > > Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition, > > preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item. > > > > Ciao > > Hannes & Kepeng > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ace mailing list > > Ace@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > Rafael Marin Lopez, PhD > Dept. Information and Communications Engineering (DIIC) Faculty of Comput= er > Science-University of Murcia > 30100 Murcia - Spain > Telf: +34868888501 Fax: +34868884151 e-mail: rafa@um.es > ------------------------------------------------------- >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace From nobody Thu Nov 20 11:52:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F01F1ABD3A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:52:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.495 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.495 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e_irCyWvPL6X for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F6221ABD3C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8707F2002A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 1A51A637F5; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0143F63745 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:52:38 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: "Ace\@ietf.org" In-Reply-To: <546C6513.1040508@gmx.net> References: <546C5F50.4040905@gmx.net> <546C6513.1040508@gmx.net> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3-dev; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Sender: mcr@sandelman.ca Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/SMqf6rll8WSbEicX2roJ19aHWFA Subject: Re: [Ace] CORRECTION -- Call For Adoption: draft-seitz-ace-usecases-02 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:52:42 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have read draft-seitz-ace-usecases anew from scratch. I support adopting it.=20=20 I'm not sure what other work the WG will even do on it; and I suggest publishing it ASAP. (or to put it another way, we should be adopting documents earlier) =2D-=20 Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBVG5GgYCLcPvd0N1lAQJOBAf+P/qU8jxhE0ar1HgKgRvN9SflIxMHyXHf jm6YD9yty8LjA4iMnY7H4I23hRGz6YHmO7IaxYOAkoG0HYpk1ML4pr2rkqQKrfBG KQ0b4xvoNSAN2gYftWpdtSzmFAXBwi2tZKHkWj349ULbcVtL8IcX/NboQ5Z/6swp 6jcTAQrt70Bo4MUBFug0tRmlcVEtvZwWipJsdYc/m0HlsyH09TUCamwRZKMIuzBM MoWqwdRuRZk8mx4FJ0LBkHE1iPwQmRQ3Y5BZMWAaoctvguPDmL1NfFiQIkEdd2es TBotMxCQG9gX/rjh6HLVy2heG+XfmjVCN/tUlReABktkmIUB/j9pjw== =JLdp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--