From matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com Tue Feb 1 08:11:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F993A6C09 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:11:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.678 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.678 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.430, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wJpC1w97YGba for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail6.alcatel.fr (smail6.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9CE3A6C01 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.64]) by smail6.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id p11GE6ut024142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:14:10 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSA3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.38]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.64]) with mapi; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:14:09 +0100 From: "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" To: "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" , "ancp@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:14:05 +0100 Thread-Topic: [ANCP] Second WG Last Call for draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-14 Thread-Index: AcvCKw3nNU0z9Tu4R9aAAfDMKuelgA== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.0.101115 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C96DE1438815matthewboccialcatellucentcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 155.132.188.84 Subject: Re: [ANCP] Second WG Last Call for draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-14 X-BeenThere: ancp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Access Node Control Protocol working group mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:11:26 -0000 --_000_C96DE1438815matthewboccialcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This WG last call is now closed. I will be shepherding this draft from now = on. Authors: I-D Nits throws up a few issues. Please can you fix these a rev t= he draft before I forward this for publication. Best regards, Matthew On 17/01/2011 10:54, "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" > wrote: This email begins a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-ancp-pro= tocol-14. The version covered by this last call can be found at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-14 Please review the draft and post any comments to the ANCP mailing list by M= onday 31st Jan 2011. Please also note the following IPR declaration: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1124/ Regards, Matthew & Woj --_000_C96DE1438815matthewboccialcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This WG last call is now= closed. I will be shepherding this draft from now on. 

=
Authors:  I-D Nits throws up a few issues. Please can you f= ix these a rev the draft before I forward this for publication.
<= br>

Best regards,

Matthew=


=
On 17/01/2011 10:54, "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" <matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com> = wrote:

This email begins a two week = working group last call on draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-14. 
The version covered by this last call can be found at:
http:/= /tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-14

Please review the draft and post any comments to the ANCP mailing list b= y Monday 31st Jan 2011.

Please also note the follo= wing IPR declaration:

Regards,

Matthew & Woj
--_000_C96DE1438815matthewboccialcatellucentcom_-- From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Wed Feb 2 05:45:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B4D3A6CD5; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 05:45:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.285 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.285 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.314, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SZc4iau0xZkA; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 05:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6CD3A68EF; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 05:45:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.11 Message-ID: <20110202134501.5063.86455.idtracker@localhost> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 05:45:01 -0800 Cc: ancp@ietf.org Subject: [ANCP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-15.txt X-BeenThere: ancp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Access Node Control Protocol working group mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 13:45:02 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Access Node Control Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Protocol for Access Node Control Mechanism in Broadband Networks Author(s) : S. Wadhwa, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-15.txt Pages : 71 Date : 2011-02-02 This document describes the Access Node Control Protocol (ANCP). ANCP operates between a Network Access Server (NAS) and an Access Node (e.g., a Digital Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer (DSLAM)) in a multi-service reference architecture in order to perform QoS- related, service-related and subscriber-related operations. Use cases for ANCP are documented in RFC 5851. As well as describing the base ANCP protocol, this document specifies capabilities for Digital Subscriber Line (DSL) topology discovery, line configuration, and remote line connectivity testing. The design of ANCP allows for protocol extensions in other documents if they are needed to support other use cases and other access technologies. ANCP is based on GSMPv3 (RFC 3292), but with many modifications and extensions, to the point that the two protocols are not interoperable. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-15.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-15.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-02-02054030.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Feb 2 07:32:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE82F3A6D24; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:32:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.993 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.993 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY=1.263, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A2s-YLvFCzeI; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC2E3A6BA3; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.61]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id p12FZPka021620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:35:41 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSA3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.38]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.61]) with mapi; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:35:21 +0100 From: "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" To: The IESG , "rdroms@cisco.com" Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:35:17 +0100 Thread-Topic: Request to publish draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-15.txt Thread-Index: AcvC7szg7Gz378UoRSKqRXKKLdoO2A== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.0.101115 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C96F2A358971matthewboccialcatellucentcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 155.132.188.80 Cc: "ancp-chairs@ietf.org" , "ancp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ancp-protocol@tools.ietf.org" Subject: [ANCP] Request to publish draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-15.txt X-BeenThere: ancp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Access Node Control Protocol working group mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:32:51 -0000 --_000_C96F2A358971matthewboccialcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable draft-ietf-ancp-protocol-15.txt Document Shepard Write-Up (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? Matthew Bocci (matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com) Yes, I have reviewed the document and I believe it is ready for forwarding to the IESG. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? Yes, the document has received adequate review. The document has been developed over long period within the WG and received extensive review over several years, as well as two WG last calls. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular or broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, internationalization or XML? No. (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document been filed? If so, please include a reference to the disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on this issue. No specific concerns. There is one IPR disclosure, 1124, which is also claimed to apply to draft-ietf-ancp-framework-08 (now RFC5851). The IPR disclosure was highlighted during WG last call, but no concerns were raised. (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? I am comfortable that the document represents WG consensus and has been reviewed by a reasonable number of active WG participants. (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is entered into the ID Tracker.) None indicated. (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the document satisfies all ID nits? (See http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media type and URI type reviews? The document satisfied ID nits. No further formal reviews are required. (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and informative? Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the strategy for their completion? Are there normative references that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. Yes, the references are split appropriately. There is one reference to the ANCP framework, that will need to be updated as both documents should be published together. (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA consideration section exists and is consistent with the body of the document? If the document specifies protocol extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If the document creates a new registry, does it define the proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC5226]. If the document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? The IANA considerations section exists and makes appropriate requests. (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the document that are written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in an automated checker? There are no sections that use a formal language. (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document describes the Access Node Control Protocol (ANCP). ANCP operates between a Network Access Server (NAS) and an Access Node (e.g., a Digital Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer (DSLAM)) in a multi-service reference architecture in order to perform QoS- related, service-related and subscriber-related operations. Use cases for ANCP are documented in RFC 5851. As well as describing the base ANCP protocol, this document specifies capabilities for Digital Subscriber Line (DSL) topology discovery, line configuration, and remote line connectivity testing. The design of ANCP allows for protocol extensions in other documents if they are needed to support other use cases and other access technologies. ANCP is based on GSMPv3 (RFC 3292), but with many modifications and extensions, to the point that the two protocols are not interoperable. This document is a product of the ANCP working group. This document is Standards Track. Working Group Summary The origin of the working group can be traced back to the WT-147 "Layer 2 C= ontrol Protocol" document from the Broadband Forum. The ANCP protocol developed in the ANCP = working group as a result of that document is typically used in the access and aggregatio= n portions of a broadband access network, and also in inter-provider environments. This draft specifies the base protocol for ANCP, which is n i= tself derived from GSMP. Document Quality The document specifies the base protocol for ANCP which has a number of imp= lementations. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Matthew Bocci (matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com) Who is the Responsible Area Director? Ralph Droms --_000_C96F2A358971matthewboccialcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

draf= t-ietf-ancp-protocol-15.txt

Document Shepard Write= -Up


    (1.a) Who is= the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the 
 &nb= sp;        Document Shepherd personally reviewed this v= ersion of the 
          docum= ent and, in particular, does he or she believe this 
 &= nbsp;        version is ready for forwarding to the IES= G for publication? 

Matthew Bocci (matthew.bocci@alcate= l-lucent.com)
        Yes, I have review= ed the document and I believe it is ready for =0B       &nbs= p;
        forwarding to the IESG.
=


    (1.b) Has the documen= t had adequate review both from key WG members 
  =        and from key non-WG members? Does the Document = Shepherd have 
          any c= oncerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that 
&nbs= p;         have been performed? 
        Yes, the document has receive= d adequate review. The document =0B        
&= nbsp;      has been developed over long period within the WG= and received
        extensive review o= ver several years, as well as two WG last calls.  =0B     &n= bsp;  

    (1.c) Does the Docu= ment Shepherd have concerns that the document 
   =        needs more review from a particular or broader p= erspective, 
          e.g., s= ecurity, operational complexity, someone familiar with 
&nbs= p;         AAA, internationalization or XML? =

       No.


    (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd h= ave any specific concerns or 
       &nb= sp;  issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director = ;
          and/or the IESG should = be aware of? For example, perhaps he 
     &n= bsp;    or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the documen= t, or 
          has concerns = whether there really is a need for it. In any 
   =        event, if the WG has discussed those issues and = has indicated 
          that = it still wishes to advance the document, detail those 
 = ;         concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure rel= ated to this document 
         &nb= sp;been filed? If so, please include a reference to the 
&nb= sp;         disclosure and summarize the WG discus= sion and conclusion on 
         &n= bsp;this issue. 

       N= o specific concerns. There is one IPR disclosure, 1124, which is
=        also claimed to apply to draft-ietf-ancp-framewo= rk-08 (now
       RFC5851). The IPR disclosur= e was highlighted during WG last call, 
     =   but no concerns were raised.


    (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this documen= t? Does it 
          represen= t the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with 
 &= nbsp;        others being silent, or does the WG as a w= hole understand and 
          = ;agree with it? 

      I = am comfortable that the document represents WG consensus and has=0B   =    
     been reviewed by a reasonable n= umber of active WG participants.
 

=     (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indic= ated extreme 
          discon= tent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in 
&nbs= p;         separate email messages to the Responsi= ble Area Director. (It 
         &n= bsp;should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is 
=
          entered into the ID Tracker.)&= nbsp;

       None indicated.


    (1.g) Has the Doc= ument Shepherd personally verified that the 
   &n= bsp;      document satisfies all ID nits? (See 
          http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist= .html and 
          http://to= ols.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are 
 &= nbsp;        not enough; this check needs to be thoroug= h. Has the document 
          = ;met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB 
          Doctor, media type and URI type r= eviews? 


     &= nbsp; The document satisfied ID nits. No further formal reviews are 
       required.

&nbs= p;   (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative a= nd 
          informative? Are= there normative references to documents that 
   =        are not ready for advancement or are otherwise i= n an unclear 
          state?= If such normative references exist, what is the 
 &nbs= p;        strategy for their completion? Are there norm= ative references 
          th= at are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If 
&= nbsp;         so, list these downward references t= o support the Area 
          = Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. 
      Yes, the references are split appropr= iately. There is one reference=0B     
  = ;    to the ANCP framework, that will need to be updated as both = documents
      should be published together.=



    = (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA 
=
          consideration section exists a= nd is consistent with the body 
       &= nbsp;  of the document? If the document specifies protocol 
=
          extensions, are reservations r= equested in appropriate IANA 
       &nb= sp;  registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If <= /div>
          the document creates a ne= w registry, does it define the 
       &= nbsp;  proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation&nbs= p;
          procedure for future r= egistrations? Does it suggest a 
       =    reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC5226]. If the&nb= sp;
          document describes an= Expert Review process has Shepherd 
     &nb= sp;    conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the I= ESG 
          can appoint the= needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? 

&= nbsp;     The IANA considerations section exists and makes a= ppropriate
      requests.


    (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd ve= rified that sections of the 
       &nbs= p;  document that are written in a formal language, such as XML <= /div>
          code, BNF rules, MIB defi= nitions, etc., validate correctly in 
     &n= bsp;    an automated checker? 

&nbs= p;     There are no sections that use a formal language.


    (1.k) The IESG appr= oval announcement includes a Document 
     &= nbsp;    Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document&nb= sp;
          Announcement Write-Up= ? Recent examples can be found in the
       =    "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval&nb= sp;
          announcement contains= the following sections: 

Technical Summary

   This document describes the Access Nod= e Control Protocol (ANCP).
   ANCP operates between a N= etwork Access Server (NAS) and an Access
   Node (e.g.,= a Digital Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer (DSLAM)) in
 &= nbsp; a multi-service reference architecture in order to perform QoS-
=
   related, service-related and subscriber-related operation= s.  Use
   cases for ANCP are documented in RFC 58= 51.  As well as describing the
   base ANCP protoc= ol, this document specifies capabilities for Digital
  = Subscriber Line (DSL) topology discovery, line configuration, and
   remote line connectivity testing.  The design of ANCP a= llows for
   protocol extensions in other documents if = they are needed to support
   other use cases and other= access technologies.

   ANCP is based o= n GSMPv3 (RFC 3292), but with many modifications and
  = extensions, to the point that the two protocols are not
 &n= bsp; interoperable.

   This document is = a product of the ANCP working group.

   = This document is Standards Track.

Working Group Su= mmary

The origin of the working group can be trace= d back to the WT-147 "Layer 2 Control Protocol" 
document fr= om the Broadband Forum. The ANCP protocol developed in the ANCP working gro= up 
as a result of that document is typically used in the ac= cess and aggregation portions of a broadband 
access network= , and also in inter-provider
environments. This draft specifies t= he base protocol for ANCP, which is n itself derived from GSMP.
<= br>
Document Quality

The document specif= ies the base protocol for ANCP which has a number of implementations.
=

Personnel
  Who is the Document She= pherd for this document?

 Matthew Bocci (matt= hew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com)

Who is the Responsib= le Area Director?
 Ralph Droms=20 --_000_C96F2A358971matthewboccialcatellucentcom_-- From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Wed Feb 9 06:15:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59163A69DA; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:15:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07DHghKKAfLy; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308A33A69C0; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:15:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.12 Message-ID: <20110209141502.22459.31248.idtracker@localhost> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 06:15:02 -0800 Cc: ancp@ietf.org Subject: [ANCP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ancp-mc-extensions-04.txt X-BeenThere: ancp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Access Node Control Protocol working group mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:15:03 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Access Node Control Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Multicast Control Extensions for ANCP Author(s) : F. Le Faucheur, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ancp-mc-extensions-04.txt Pages : 95 Date : 2011-02-09 This document specifies the extensions to the Access Node Control Protocol required for support of the multicast use cases defined in the Access Node Control Protocol framework document and one additional use case described in this document. These use cases are organized into the following ANCP capabilities: o NAS-initiated multicast replication; o conditional access with white and black lists; o conditional access with grey lists; o bandwidth delegation; o committed bandwidth reporting. These capabilities may be combined according to the rules given in this specification. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ancp-mc-extensions-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ancp-mc-extensions-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-02-09061324.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From tom111.taylor@bell.net Wed Feb 9 06:15:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C916E3A69E9 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:15:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nE9O1n5LoQ2O for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.113]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB013A69ED for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU0-SMTP83 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:15:24 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [174.94.11.167] X-Originating-Email: [tom111.taylor@bell.net] Message-ID: Received: from [192.168.2.17] ([174.94.11.167]) by BLU0-SMTP83.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:15:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:15:37 -0500 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ancp@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 14:15:24.0935 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB5C9170:01CBC863] Subject: [ANCP] draft-ietf-ancp-mc-extensions-04 X-BeenThere: ancp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Access Node Control Protocol working group mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:15:16 -0000 I have just submitted a keep-alive update. The document needs a thorough review in the light of the updates to the base protocol document. I hope to get at that soon. Tom Taylor From matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Feb 21 07:57:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3904A3A6FBF for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:57:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.641 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.641 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.807, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id inWtegMm7T7j for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF493A6EF0 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id p1LFve7K021223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:57:40 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSA3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.36]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.63]) with mapi; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:57:40 +0100 From: "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" To: "ancp@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:57:37 +0100 Thread-Topic: Prague meeting slots Thread-Index: AcvR4BD7vMRXC2KCS+CPiClsD7AG8w== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.0.101115 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C9883BF19C16matthewboccialcatellucentcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 155.132.188.80 Subject: [ANCP] Prague meeting slots X-BeenThere: ancp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Access Node Control Protocol working group mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:57:02 -0000 --_000_C9883BF19C16matthewboccialcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, Please can you let us know if you would like a slot in the ANCP meeting in = Prague. 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--_000_C9883BF19C16matthewboccialcatellucentcom_-- From tom111.taylor@bell.net Tue Feb 22 05:45:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2A83A68E0 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:45:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yKe4CW7v9hq9 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.112]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DF53A68D6 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU0-SMTP59 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:46:32 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [174.94.11.167] X-Originating-Email: [tom111.taylor@bell.net] Message-ID: Received: from [192.168.2.17] ([174.94.11.167]) by BLU0-SMTP59.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:46:32 -0800 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:46:33 -0500 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2011 13:46:32.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA1E6920:01CBD296] Cc: "ancp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ANCP] Prague meeting slots X-BeenThere: ancp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Access Node Control Protocol working group mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:45:49 -0000 I'm hoping I have the multicast document ready for WGLC, so perhaps 10-15 minutes for changes as a result of the base document update. On 21/02/2011 10:57 AM, Bocci, Matthew (Matthew) wrote: > All, > > Please can you let us know if you would like a slot in the ANCP meeting in Prague. If so, please send a summary of what you would like to talk about. > > Regards > > Matthew and Woj > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ANCP mailing list > ANCP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ancp From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Wed Feb 23 08:57:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36F83A6927; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:57:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.576 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.576 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R-zs4vX1jTqR; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:57:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B15F3A67A1; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:57:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.12 Message-ID: <20110223165725.17207.94768.idtracker@localhost> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:57:25 -0800 Cc: ancp@ietf.org Subject: [ANCP] Last Call: (Protocol for Access Node Control Mechanism in Broadband Networks) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ancp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Access Node Control Protocol working group mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:57:25 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Access Node Control Protocol WG (ancp) to consider the following document: - 'Protocol for Access Node Control Mechanism in Broadband Networks' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2011-03-09. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ancp-protocol/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ancp-protocol/ The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: /ipr/1124/ From evnikita2@gmail.com Wed Feb 23 10:19:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ancp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EC63A676A; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:19:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.356 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.356 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.243, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VdRXjqvmOLsr; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4673A6935; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:19:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so443251bwz.31 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:19:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oKhnS1RKRkOhc9AbKkcb9HSV5GlAGPQhhreK7yvipeM=; b=HkLMaygx4+hrrkxiCLxt8HJMgWrMwkzR3BBEEtib/lWwTvH7QkzR3D3JAGG6peynkA vJX31kx/hYu3u2a33IbMdimsfue01eADV0fcN9+6P/2z3iq2isyG3NcXsKtVR0njMq/h TKtSG7Jq9nQUGV0JqipFiFttCnrQehQmxCe/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sV1q6Eh+6pEzek221qvfa2k8999iVwucgqdw3cAcMk5kftfY8+FpqHIR3Jc/W7PMZb +Fq3EcFPehfXA9UZFeRoZfe/BM9xbszJI/Inao2W5paKkfuGq3FHVl0yEyqR0o8sOpOJ 7f36tR8O0RcOfqP7g8nB+qhwmKWqzXFDL8y8c= Received: by 10.204.136.15 with SMTP id p15mr2969359bkt.77.1298485191430; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([195.191.104.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j11sm5514522bka.0.2011.02.23.10.19.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:19:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D654FE3.8080001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:20:19 +0200 From: Mykyta Yevstifeyev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf@ietf.org References: <20110223165725.17207.94768.idtracker@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20110223165725.17207.94768.idtracker@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:45:01 -0800 Cc: ancp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ANCP] Last Call: (Protocol for Access Node Control Mechanism in Broadband Networks) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ancp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Access Node Control Protocol working group mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:19:12 -0000 Hello, Let me comment the IANA consideration section of this document. > IANA is requested to implement the following modification to the > General Switch Management Protocol version 3 (GSMPv3) Result Type > Name Space registry: > > +--------------+-----------------------+-----------+ > | Result Value | Result Type Name | Reference | > +--------------+-----------------------+-----------+ > | 0 | Ignore (was Reserved) | RFCXXXX | > +--------------+-----------------------+-----------+ In the registry you are modifying the value 0 is now Reserved. RFC 5226 says: > Reserved: Not to be assigned. Reserved values are held for > special uses, such as to extend the namespace when it become > exhausted. Reserved values are not available for general > assignment. Therefore it is not permitted to register reserved values. Moreover, this document says that you shouldn't have mentioned exact values you want to register - see Section 5.1 of RFC 5226 (the same applies to another registry modifications, as one might notice). Next, > IANA is requested to create a new ANCP Port Management Function Name > registry, with the following initial entries. Additions to this > registry will be by IETF Consensus. You should have here the reference to RFC 5226, shouldn't you? (This also applies to other registry descriptions) > Values may range from 0 to 255. > > [ . . . ] What is more, > IANA is requested to create a new ANCP Version registry, with > additions by IETF consensus. The initial entries are as follows: > > +---------+-------------+--------------+-----------+ > | Version | Sub-Version | Name | Reference | > +---------+-------------+--------------+-----------+ > | 3 | 1 | Pre-standard | | > | 3 | 2 | ANCPv1 | RFCXXXX | > +---------+-------------+--------------+-----------+ This description is obviously missing the definition of values' format, or at least key values. Moreover, > IANA is requested to create a new ANCP Command Code registry, with > additions by IETF Consensus. The initial entry is as follows: > > +--------------------+-----------------------------+-----------+ > | Command Code Value | Command Code Directive Name | Reference | > +--------------------+-----------------------------+-----------+ > | 0 | Reserved | RFCXXXX | > +--------------------+-----------------------------+-----------+ The same as above applies. Moreover, does this registry consists of only one values, that is reserved and therefore cannot be assigned, per RFC 5226? This is at least impossible. Finally, > IANA is requested to create a new ANCP TLV Type registry, with > additions by IETF Consensus. Values may range from 0x0000 to 0xFFFF. > New assignments should be in the range of values from 0x0100 upwards. > The initial entries are as follows: Here you should have mentioned that values are hexadecimal, for clarity. Thank you for considering my comments in advance. All the best, Mykyta Yevstifeyev 23.02.2011 18:57, The IESG wrote: > The IESG has received a request from the Access Node Control Protocol WG > (ancp) to consider the following document: > - 'Protocol for Access Node Control Mechanism in Broadband Networks' > as a Proposed Standard > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the > ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2011-03-09. Exceptionally, comments may be > sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the > beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > > The file can be obtained via > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ancp-protocol/ > > IESG discussion can be tracked via > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ancp-protocol/ > > > > The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: > > /ipr/1124/ > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >