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Player" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bmwg@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on escaflowne.monkeyplayground.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 10ba05e7e8a9aa6adb025f426bef3a30 Subject: [bmwg] RFC 2889, Appendix A X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bmwg-bounces@ietf.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Howdy, all So. I've been working through Appendix A of RFC 2889, and no offense to anyone, but it's a mess. * The formulas are incomplete. The TXTIME formulas has no numerator. (I'm guessing this is a known bug) * The included example doesn't agree with the IBG formula According to the RFC, [(100/LOAD - 1) * BURST * (IFG + 64 + 8*LENGTH)] + IFG IBG = ----------------------------------------------------------- SPEED Now, try the example: Example: LENGTH = 64 bytes per frame LOAD = 100 % offered load BURST = 24 frames per burst SPEED = 10 Mbits/sec (Ethernet) DURATION = 10 seconds test you get IBG = IFG I guess this makes sense for 100% load. But given the answers in the example, I think the load is supposed to be 50%. However, even with 50% load, the RFC formula gives IBG = 1622.4 microseconds which is off by 1 IFG from the example: 1622.4 micro - 9.6 micro = 1612.8 micro This suggests that the example is using [(100/LOAD - 1) * BURST * (IFG + 64 + 8*LENGTH)] IBG = ----------------------------------------------------------- SPEED Anyway this leads me to the question: What is the IBG supposed to be? Does the IBG contain the IFG + extra? Or is the IBG seperate from the IFG? Put another way: At 100% load is my IBG supposed to equal the IFG? (RFC formula) or does it equal 0? (RFC example) Personally, I'm thinking that the IBG is really IFG + extra and that the formulas in the RFC should be: [(100/LOAD - 1) * BURST * (IFG + 64 + 8*LENGTH)] + IFG IBG = ----------------------------------------------------------- SPEED BURST * (IFG + 64 + 8*LENGTH) - IFG TXTIME = ------------------------------------------ SPEED This means that for 50% load, the example values would have the following answers: IBG = 1622.4 micro (instead of 1612.8 micro) TXTIME = 1603.2 micro #OFBURSTS = 3101 (instead of 3110) Or did I miss something? * (NIT) The range for LOAD in the IBG equation should be written as (0, 100] since 0 makes the equation nonsensical, i.e. you can't divide by 0 (again, this is obvious, or at least should be) * (NIT) Giving results in seconds seems silly when the Ethernet transmit clock is +/- 100 ppm. Bit times would at least be accurate. 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Player" , bmwg@ietf.org From: Al Morton Subject: Re: [bmwg] RFC 2889, Appendix A In-Reply-To: <47321757.2060500@monkeyplayground.net> References: <47321757.2060500@monkeyplayground.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Scan-Signature: a8a20a483a84f747e56475e290ee868e Cc: X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Hi Timmons, There's no Errata for 2889, care to go that route? I think you just started the process... Al At 02:51 PM 11/7/2007, Timmons C. Player wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Howdy, all > >So. I've been working through Appendix A of RFC 2889, and no offense to >anyone, but it's a mess. > >* The formulas are incomplete. The TXTIME formulas has no numerator. >(I'm guessing this is a known bug) > >* The included example doesn't agree with the IBG formula > >According to the RFC, > > [(100/LOAD - 1) * BURST * (IFG + 64 + 8*LENGTH)] + IFG > IBG = ----------------------------------------------------------- > SPEED > >Now, try the example: > > Example: > > LENGTH = 64 bytes per frame > LOAD = 100 % offered load > BURST = 24 frames per burst > SPEED = 10 Mbits/sec (Ethernet) > DURATION = 10 seconds test > >you get IBG = IFG > >I guess this makes sense for 100% load. But given the answers in the >example, I think the load is supposed to be 50%. However, even with 50% >load, the RFC formula gives IBG = 1622.4 microseconds which is off by 1 >IFG from the example: > >1622.4 micro - 9.6 micro = 1612.8 micro > >This suggests that the example is using > > [(100/LOAD - 1) * BURST * (IFG + 64 + 8*LENGTH)] > IBG = ----------------------------------------------------------- > SPEED > >Anyway this leads me to the question: What is the IBG supposed to be? > >Does the IBG contain the IFG + extra? Or is the IBG seperate from the IFG? > >Put another way: At 100% load is my IBG supposed to equal the IFG? (RFC >formula) >or does it equal 0? 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The TXTIME formulas has no numerator. > (I'm guessing this is a known bug) Your right. Somehow a line got deleted and no one noticed. The formula should read: [ BURST * (IFG + 64 + 8*LENGTH) ] - IFG TXTIME = ------------------------------------------ SPEED > * The included example doesn't agree with the IBG formula The problem is I took the equations from Sprient's Advance Switch Test application. I don't have access to the source code (anymore), so I can't verify if Sprient's application is "a mess". When I added the appendix, I just verified that the equations matched the test we were running at the time. > Anyway this leads me to the question: What is the IBG supposed to be? > > Does the IBG contain the IFG + extra? Or is the IBG seperate from the > IFG? > > Put another way: At 100% load is my IBG supposed to equal the IFG? (RFC > formula) > or does it equal 0? (RFC example) RFC 2285, section 3.4.3 does not specify. 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Here are my comments which were triggered by Al's reminder last week (thanks to Al!). I must start by saying that I really liked the document and it is very accurately written addressing all the aspects of IPsec benchmarking. I believe that we should move the draft forward. At this time, I just have 2 minor comments which authors may or may not want to address before the upcoming meeting. Section 10.3.2 - IPsec Encryption Latency It is unclear from the definition or the discussion that if the encryption latency is being measured across the device (as in the definition) or across the IPSec tunnel as stated in the discussion. More clarity would be helpful here. Section 10.8 - IPsec Tunnel Failover Time a. Minor typo in the definition, replace "stanby" with "standby" b. In my opinion both time based and packet based method calculations should be considered for calculating Tunnel failover time. I hope this helps. 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This draft is a work item of the Benchmarking Methodology Working Group of the IETF. Title : Considerations for Benchmarking Link-State IGP Data Plane Route Convergence Author(s) : S. Poretsky Filename : draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-app-14.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2007-11-19 This document discusses considerations for benchmarking Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) Route Convergence for any link-state IGP, such as Intermediate System-Intermediate System (ISIS) and Open-Shorted Path first (OSPF). A companion methodology document is to be used for benchmarking IGP convergence time through externally observable (black box) data plane measurements. A companion terminology document is to be referenced to support the benchmarking. 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This draft is a work item of the Benchmarking Methodology Working Group of the IETF. Title : Considerations for Benchmarking Link-State IGP Data Plane Route Convergence Author(s) : S. Poretsky Filename : draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-app-14.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2007-11-19 This document discusses considerations for benchmarking Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) Route Convergence for any link-state IGP, such as Intermediate System-Intermediate System (ISIS) and Open-Shorted Path first (OSPF). A companion methodology document is to be used for benchmarking IGP convergence time through externally observable (black box) data plane measurements. A companion terminology document is to be referenced to support the benchmarking. 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This draft is a work item of the Benchmarking Methodology Working Group of the IETF. Title : Terminology for Benchmarking Link-State IGP Data Plane Route Convergence Author(s) : B. Imhoff, S. Poretsky Filename : draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-term-14.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2007-11-19 This document describes the terminology for benchmarking Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) Route Convergence. The terminology is to be used for benchmarking IGP convergence time through externally observable (black box) data plane measurements. The terminology can be applied to any link-state IGP, such as ISIS and OSPF. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-term-14.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. 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This draft is a work item of the Benchmarking Methodology Working Group of the IETF. Title : Terminology for Benchmarking Link-State IGP Data Plane Route Convergence Author(s) : B. Imhoff, S. Poretsky Filename : draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-term-14.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2007-11-19 This document describes the terminology for benchmarking Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) Route Convergence. The terminology is to be used for benchmarking IGP convergence time through externally observable (black box) data plane measurements. The terminology can be applied to any link-state IGP, such as ISIS and OSPF. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-term-14.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. 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This draft is a work item of the Benchmarking Methodology Working Group of the IETF. Title : Benchmarking Methodology for Link-State IGP Data Plane Route Convergence Author(s) : S. Poretsky, B. Imhoff Filename : draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-meth-14.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2007-11-19 This document describes the methodology for benchmarking Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) Route Convergence. The methodology is to be used for benchmarking IGP convergence time through externally observable (black box) data plane measurements. The methodology can be applied to any link-state IGP, such as ISIS and OSPF. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-meth-14.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. 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This draft is a work item of the Benchmarking Methodology Working Group of the IETF. Title : Terminology for Benchmarking Link-State IGP Data Plane Route Convergence Author(s) : B. Imhoff, S. Poretsky Filename : draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-term-14.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2007-11-19 This document describes the terminology for benchmarking Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) Route Convergence. The terminology is to be used for benchmarking IGP convergence time through externally observable (black box) data plane measurements. The terminology can be applied to any link-state IGP, such as ISIS and OSPF. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-igp-dataplane-conv-term-14.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. 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Would it be desirable (possible) to have the work IP version agnostic?=20 It is a brief question, but 'if' IPv6 gets full addoption the impact/value=20 of the draft is amplified. If it is not within the forecasted scope=20 then maybe a note in abstract or the introduction could have value? Nice to see this work happening, Groetjes, G/ -----Original Message----- From: Silvija Andrijic Dry (sdry)=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:46 PM To: bmwg@ietf.org Cc: NAPIERALA, MARIA H, ATTLABS Subject: [bmwg] Updated:draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt=20 Hi BMWG members, We would like to solicit your feedback on the new version of MVPN scalability benchmarking proposal: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt Note that in rev 03 we made couple of major changes based on feedback from IETF68, namely: - scope is modified to include both generic sections applicable to all MVPN architectures specified in "draft-ietf- l3vpn-2547bis-mcast" and sections specific to widely deployed "rosen-8" architecture - metric is changed to be architecture agnostic - text is rewritten to address changed scope of the document We are looking forward to the discussion in Vancouver. And for those of you that won't be able to attend the meeting we would greatly appreciate your comments sent to the mailing list. Thanks, Authors -----Original Message----- From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:15 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt=20 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Multicast VPN Scalability Benchmarking Author(s) : S. Dry, et al. Filename : draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt Pages : 44 Date : 2007-11-9 =09 Multicast VPN (MVPN) is a service deployed by VPN service providers=20 to enable their customers to use IP multicast applications over VPNs. With the increased popularity the scalability of deploying such a=20 service is becoming of a great interest. This document defines=20 standard metric and test methodology for characterizing and comparing control plane MVPN scalability of Provider Edge (PE) devices that=20 implement MVPN service. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message.=20 You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. _______________________________________________ bmwg mailing list bmwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg From bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 28 08:07:05 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxMd5-0006Z0-2z; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:07:03 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxMd3-0006YW-8I for bmwg@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:07:01 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com ([64.102.122.148]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxMd2-0003Ld-7L for bmwg@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:07:01 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 28 Nov 2007 08:06:58 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lASD6vt9020036; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:06:57 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lASD6i10013300; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:06:57 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.53]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:06:56 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [bmwg] Updated:draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:06:21 -0500 Message-ID: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6047E6B37@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <70672088D7D2CE409FB05DDD7B73D381CBEE26@xmb-ams-33c.emea.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [bmwg] Updated:draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt Thread-Index: AcgjBSSYgdyXazt6TsOC8Rm8cB9X6AOJPxmAABrX1tAACOygYA== From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: "Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve)" , "Silvija Andrijic Dry (sdry)" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2007 13:06:56.0709 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DC54750:01C831BF] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=6379; t=1196255218; x=1197119218; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=rajiva@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Rajiv=20Asati=20(rajiva)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[bmwg]=20Updated=3Adraft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt=2 0 |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Gunter=20Van=20de=20Velde=20(gvandeve)=22=20, =0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=22Silvija=20Andrijic=20Dry=20(sdry)=22=20,=20; bh=nmTp6TrAz71Bx9Xa/NQGYnPEa8K+cv6iaQ0prjqgKVM=; b=ZBfIgo9XESrUPkfrKXcMZVaYAVgzEHleBWRGPL2tiL8PM6ogHOZ+A9vwcM9R6XPYfeeL4NaW /92hXOOcNoXaVzOCO71ISxhCz2VCVjneRwq0r0gZgZ9zL4nAE5sBpFAm; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1; header.From=rajiva@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim1001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2a76bcd37b1c8a21336eb0a1ea6bbf48 Cc: "NAPIERALA, MARIA H, ATTLABS" X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Dear Authors, This document has shaped up really well. Few minor comments - 1) In Abstract and Introduction, special attention is given to the 'standard metric' in addition to the test methodology.=20 I wonder whether it is necessary. The variables refered to by the metric are used as the setup input(s) to the methodology, and implicitly covered within. Is there more to it? =20 2) The document uses the term 'metric', which may confuse those who perceive 'metric' as a real nonnegative number analogous to link metric (say).=20 Perhaps, the intention was to use 'matrix' term instead!! 3) While having route-reflector in the test topology is desirable, I wonder whether it needs to be mandatory!! Perhaps, a bit of clarification would be helpful. There are no of providers (albeit small) who don't=20 utilize route-reflector, and may be interested in this work.=20 4) On IPv6, I agree with Gunter. A clarification in this draft would be good to include. =20 Although, I thought that draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-05.txt was either IP version agnostic or included consideration for IPv6, if any, but that didn't seem the case. 5) It is important that the document provides flexibility to select one of MVPN architectures (specified in "rosen-8" architecture" or "draft-ietf- l3vpn-2547bis-mcast") for the mVPN benchmarking. It would be sub-optimal to benchmark each and every mVPN architecture when there is just one (or few) architecture being deployed. Lastly, this draft provides value to the network operators deploying or planning to deploy mVPN. Cheers, Rajiv =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve)=20 > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:13 AM > To: Silvija Andrijic Dry (sdry); bmwg@ietf.org > Cc: NAPIERALA, MARIA H, ATTLABS > Subject: RE: [bmwg] Updated:draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt=20 >=20 > Hi Silvija and author team, >=20 > Nice document. >=20 > Would it be desirable (possible) to have the work IP version=20 > agnostic?=20 >=20 > It is a brief question, but 'if' IPv6 gets full addoption the > impact/value=20 > of the draft is amplified. If it is not within the forecasted scope=20 > then maybe a note in abstract or the introduction could have value? >=20 > Nice to see this work happening, > Groetjes, > G/ >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Silvija Andrijic Dry (sdry)=20 > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:46 PM > To: bmwg@ietf.org > Cc: NAPIERALA, MARIA H, ATTLABS > Subject: [bmwg] Updated:draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt=20 >=20 > Hi BMWG members, >=20 > We would like to solicit your feedback on the new version of MVPN > scalability benchmarking proposal: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt >=20 > Note that in rev 03 we made couple of major changes based on feedback > from IETF68, namely: > - scope is modified to include both generic sections applicable to all > MVPN architectures specified in "draft-ietf- l3vpn-2547bis-mcast" and > sections specific to widely deployed "rosen-8" architecture > - metric is changed to be architecture agnostic > - text is rewritten to address changed scope of the document >=20 > We are looking forward to the discussion in Vancouver. And=20 > for those of > you that won't be able to attend the meeting we would greatly=20 > appreciate > your comments sent to the mailing list. >=20 > Thanks, > Authors >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:15 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. >=20 >=20 > Title : Multicast VPN Scalability Benchmarking > Author(s) : S. Dry, et al. > Filename : draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt > Pages : 44 > Date : 2007-11-9 > =09 > Multicast VPN (MVPN) is a service deployed by VPN service providers=20 > to enable their customers to use IP multicast applications=20 > over VPNs. >=20 > With the increased popularity the scalability of deploying such a=20 > service is becoming of a great interest. This document defines=20 > standard metric and test methodology for characterizing=20 > and comparing >=20 > control plane MVPN scalability of Provider Edge (PE) devices that=20 > implement MVPN service. >=20 > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt >=20 > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of > the message.=20 > You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > to change your subscription settings. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Is that not the case? > - Multiple label stack up to 4, FRR protection draft covers=20 > all possible combination of label stack =20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-protection > -meth-02.txt, You may want to refer our draft=20 > for test scenario and define procedure in your draft.=20 Multiple label stacks come into play with MPLS applications, hence, will be covered in another document. Will surely refer to yours then. >=20 > 26.6, What kind of Hardware and software reset type are you=20 > suggesting, You should mention some of recommended reset types.=20 Good suggestion. Although RFC2544 doesn't offer any guideline on this, I would think that the following to be inferred at minimum - hardware reset - RouteProcessor card resetting software reset - reset initiated through a CLI (e.g. reload) We will include this clarification (as examples) in the next version of the document. Thanks again. 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I do support it.=20 > =20 > There are some of cases are important for MPLS forwarding=20 > verification as below, Let us know what is your opinion on it. > =20 > - You have covered most of label forwarding path, Is there=20 > any reason you are not covering IP to IP path with mpls=20 > application such as one hop TE tunnel, back to back PE=20 > services for L2 and L3 VPNs. > - Explicit-Null cases > - MPLS packet Fragmentation cases > - MPLS Load balancing (per packet and per destination) > - Multiple label stack up to 4, FRR protection draft covers=20 > all possible combination of label stack =20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-protection > -meth-02.txt, You may want to refer our draft=20 > for test scenario and define procedure in your draft.=20 >=20 > 26.6, What kind of Hardware and software reset type are you=20 > suggesting, You should mention some of recommended reset types.=20 > =20 > =20 > Thanks > Samir >=20 _______________________________________________ bmwg mailing list bmwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg From bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 29 14:07:07 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ixoj4-0007Hj-Nj; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:07:06 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ixoj3-0007HD-FZ for bmwg@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:07:05 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ixoj2-0004fL-Sq for bmwg@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:07:05 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Nov 2007 14:07:05 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lATJ74tA016769 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:07:04 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lATJ74Ba019761 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:07:04 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-214.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.75]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:07:04 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:06:12 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6047E725C@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Thread-Index: AcgyomEpt7VGx0WEQTCc4AZhCnXSdgAClY+AAAH2CCA= From: "Samir Vapiwala (svapiwal)" To: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" , , "Aamer Akhter (aakhter)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2007 19:07:04.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[077A0710:01C832BB] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=3856; t=1196363224; x=1197227224; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=svapiwal@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Samir=20Vapiwala=20(svapiwal)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Rajiv=20Asati=20(rajiva)=22=20, =20, =0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=22Aamer=20Akhter=20(aakhter)=22=20; bh=nMhlGIafZUhIE3AKhGvDTO3kKa1G7f97EUUARoC25P0=; b=J7Oh0hRSjJ8bwjIbhIMrRb4lJtkarchUzsYZ5Y5b+gebPu6t7JwRCJGsVHmg9ISnBlEBvvmE /ModUg+USSR08kVbXFbwNH7d5BausLqUzLrWc22/VLo9DzUrnQLk3w+i; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1; header.From=svapiwal@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim1001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c83ccb5cc10e751496398f1233ca9c3a Cc: Subject: [bmwg] RE: draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Hi Rajiv See inline *Samir=20 -----Original Message----- From: Rajiv Asati (rajiva)=20 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:49 PM To: Samir Vapiwala (svapiwal); 'bmwg@ietf.org'; Aamer Akhter (aakhter) Cc: Rajiv Asati (rajiva) Subject: RE: draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Hi Samir, Thanks a lot for your support, careful review and suggestion. This document focusses only on MPLS forwarding benchmarking independent of MPLS applications. Another document will cover benchmarking related to the MPLS applications such as TE tunnels, VPNs etc. This scoping very much helps for our progress. > - Explicit-Null cases > - MPLS packet Fragmentation cases The -02 version indeed included the exp-null and fragmentation cases, but -03 version didn't on purpose. The intention was to first cover the most common cases (based on the deployment need) and pave the way for quicker readability and review by the WG. *Samir - I'm not sure that was right thing to do. It may not be possible for reviewer to review every version, so it is better to add at once. We intend to add cases incrementally in forthcoming versions, based on your feedback. =20 > - MPLS Load balancing (per packet and per destination) Good suggestion. However, I didn't think that the testtool had the ability to receive flows on different ports and still validate them. Is that not the case? *Samir - I believe that you can aggregate 2 port at receiving end of test tool. But in such case you may account for control plan packets too. Thanks Samir > - Multiple label stack up to 4, FRR protection draft covers all=20 > possible combination of label stack=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-protection > -meth-02.txt, You may want to refer our draft=20 > for test scenario and define procedure in your draft.=20 Multiple label stacks come into play with MPLS applications, hence, will be covered in another document. Will surely refer to yours then. >=20 > 26.6, What kind of Hardware and software reset type are you=20 > suggesting, You should mention some of recommended reset types. Good suggestion. Although RFC2544 doesn't offer any guideline on this, I would think that the following to be inferred at minimum - hardware reset - RouteProcessor card resetting software reset - reset initiated through a CLI (e.g. reload) We will include this clarification (as examples) in the next version of the document. Thanks again. Cheers, Rajiv=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Samir Vapiwala (svapiwal) > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:11 AM > To: 'bmwg@ietf.org'; Rajiv Asati (rajiva); Aamer Akhter (aakhter) > Subject: draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt >=20 > Hi Rajiv/Aamer > =20 > This is good MPLS forwarding benchmarking draft which should have come > in early phases of MPLS. I do support it. > =20 > There are some of cases are important for MPLS forwarding verification > as below, Let us know what is your opinion on it. > =20 > - You have covered most of label forwarding path, Is there any reason=20 > you are not covering IP to IP path with mpls application such as one=20 > hop TE tunnel, back to back PE services for L2 and L3 VPNs. > - Explicit-Null cases > - MPLS packet Fragmentation cases > - MPLS Load balancing (per packet and per destination) > - Multiple label stack up to 4, FRR protection draft covers all=20 > possible combination of label stack=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-protection > -meth-02.txt, You may want to refer our draft=20 > for test scenario and define procedure in your draft.=20 >=20 > 26.6, What kind of Hardware and software reset type are you=20 > suggesting, You should mention some of recommended reset types. > =20 > =20 > Thanks > Samir >=20 _______________________________________________ bmwg mailing list bmwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg From bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 29 14:14:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ixopy-0006z1-Fx; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:14:14 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ixopx-0006yO-5L for bmwg@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:14:13 -0500 Received: from ns1.cpanel.btnaccess.com ([205.177.121.2]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ixopw-0006si-KH for bmwg@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:14:13 -0500 Received: from [65.213.193.16] (port=3543 helo=Isovaio08) by ns1.cpanel.btnaccess.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ixope-0004FJ-Bu; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:13:54 -0500 From: "Rajiv Papneja" To: "'Aamer Akhter \(aakhter\)'" Subject: RE: [bmwg] Updated draft on MPLS forwarding Benchmarking:draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:11:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcZdhAMiMvEO6EMARq6PA2GE6e+aKnVLjaCQ In-Reply-To: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns1.cpanel.btnaccess.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - isocore.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 14582b0692e7f70ce7111d04db3781c8 Cc: bmwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Message-Id: Hello Aamer, Rajiv Thanks for sending the pointer to your dradt for review. Considering that there is an ongoing effort on LDP, and RSVP-TE convergence benchmarking this work complements the two efforts. I do support this work, however I do have a couple of minor comments: In the section 6, under the test setup you recommend for the test cases involving 2 or more labels, the tester should emulate MPLS services such as L3VPN, or L2VPN to ensure that two label stack is imposed before the frame is offered to the DUT. IMHO, one may create traffic streams with multiple labels rather than intorducing the complexity of L3VPN/L2VPN configurations and deviating from the true forwarding benchmarking style testing which this draft proposes. Similar to IP forwarding benchmarking using static routes rather than enabling routing protocols on the DUT and tester for throughput measurements. For section 6.4 and 6.5 since there are control plane recovery is also important for correct traffic forwarding, the procedure should include verifying whether the MPLS sessions are started to ensure new label bindings are exchanged rather than tester using stale entries to send the traffic streams. Regards, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: Aamer Akhter (aakhter) [mailto:aakhter@cisco.com] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:06 PM > To: bmwg@ietf.org > Subject: [bmwg] Updated draft on MPLS forwarding > Benchmarking:draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt > > Hello BMWG, > > We would like to bring to your attention the updated draft on > basic MPLS forwarding that we will be submitting to the IETF > as an individual submission (once submissions opens up > again). There have been significant changes since the last > version of the draft including: > > * removal of many test cases thought to be out of scope > * rewriting of many cases to be less verbose > * addition of reload tests > > http://www.employees.org/~aamer/draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt > > Over the past several years MPLS networks have gained greater > popularity. However, there is no standard method to compare and > contrast the varying implementations and their strong and weak > points. This document proposes a methodology using common criteria > for the comparison of various implementations of basic MPLS > forwarding devices. > > If there are any concerns or changes that need to be made > please do not hesitate to contact us. > > Regards, > > Aamer Akhter > Rajiv Asati > > ================== > > Title : MPLS Benchmarking Methodology > Author(s) : Aamer Akhter and Rajiv Asati > Filename : draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt > Pages : 21 > Date : 2007-11-25 > > The purpose of this draft is to describe a methodology specific to > the benchmarking of MPLS forwarding devices. The scope of this > benchmarking will be limited to various types of packet-forwarding > and delay measurements. It builds upon the tenets set forth in > RFC2544 [RFC2544], RFC1242 [RFC1242] and other IETF Benchmarking > > The BMWG produces two major classes of documents: Benchmarking > Terminology documents and Benchmarking Methodology documents. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_B19DF_01C83392.0CFDA390-- From bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 30 16:19:13 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyDGR-0004GF-Oo; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:19:11 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyDEm-0001ye-Aa for bmwg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:17:28 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com ([64.102.122.148]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyDBr-0004ML-To for bmwg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:14:30 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Nov 2007 16:14:27 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAULERYp018905 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:14:27 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAULEC10006310 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:14:27 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-215.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.124]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:14:26 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [bmwg] Updated draft on MPLS forwarding Benchmarking:draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:13:42 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [bmwg] Updated draft on MPLS forwarding Benchmarking:draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Thread-Index: AcZdhAMiMvEO6EMARq6PA2GE6e+aKnWCwB6w From: "Silvija Andrijic Dry (sdry)" To: "Aamer Akhter (aakhter)" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2007 21:14:26.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[FCE2E110:01C83395] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=4494; t=1196457267; x=1197321267; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=sdry@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Silvija=20Andrijic=20Dry=20(sdry)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[bmwg]=20Updated=20draft=20on=20MPLS=20forwarding=20B enchmarking=3Adraft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Aamer=20Akhter=20(aakhter)=22=20, =20; bh=Exiph7UvQJtFLokR7Sk5xY7zsVgqJx4lf4aiB5mCUW8=; b=LVwYUZrC5WCS1jFlNMYD1yr3i2QI0oZ1EqxgBDgKXI+4d8vi0EBxzOFkD2BLIX8dDkftMMre B647Odgkf5TSdmQUWuIm4sEvS+MCSyaKot/5HG23UFYTkheMG7Utpb30; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1; header.From=sdry@cisco.com; dkim=pass (s ig from cisco.com/rtpdkim1001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: a87a9cdae4ac5d3fbeee75cd0026d632 Cc: X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Hi Aamer, Rajiv, I have read latest 03 rev as well some of your earlier ones and like some of changes you have made especially adding system recovery and reset test cases. Overall I think this is useful work and I am in support of it. Here are couple of specific comments: - Section 2 (Scope): need to explicitly state that scope includes unicast only and multicast is not within the scope (or if it is additional considerations and test cases would definitely be needed). Also I noticed IPv6 was mentioned in some other places in document (like section 4.1.2 and 5) so would be good to be clear up front in scope section what is covered by the draft=20 - In section 6 (test procedure) you use as criteria to move to new test iteration "if any frame loss is detected", while in section 4.1.5.1 you say that "all traffic MUST be acocunted for, whether it was received on wrong port, correct port or not received at all". I would make criterias in these two instances consistant, preferably either frame loss or receiption at the wrong port would require one to proceed to new test iteration. Perhaps you can say in section 6 something like: "If traffic verification procedure specified in 4.1.5.1 fails proceed to new iteration"=20 - In section 6.5 it would be good to suggest couple of more common failure events besides device and software resets. For example switchover between any redundant components in the DUT if any supported (e.g. main route processor, switching fabric, etc.). Look at section 7 of MVPN Scale benchamrking draft where we make some additional common failure events recommendations and some might be applicable in your draft as well:=20 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sdry-bmwg-mvpnscale-03.txt=20 - Also in section 6.5 it would be good to be more specific on what device and software resets mean as you can typically reset device in couple of different ways where not all result in same code paths and outage times...I think the safest method to ensure consistancy would be power cycle for device reset. Cheers, Silvija =20 -----Original Message----- From: Aamer Akhter (aakhter)=20 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:06 PM To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: [bmwg] Updated draft on MPLS forwarding Benchmarking:draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Hello BMWG, We would like to bring to your attention the updated draft on basic MPLS forwarding that we will be submitting to the IETF as an individual submission (once submissions opens up again). There have been significant changes since the last version of the draft including: * removal of many test cases thought to be out of scope * rewriting of many cases to be less verbose * addition of reload tests http://www.employees.org/~aamer/draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Over the past several years MPLS networks have gained greater=20 popularity. However, there is no standard method to compare and=20 contrast the varying implementations and their strong and weak=20 points. This document proposes a methodology using common criteria=20 for the comparison of various implementations of basic MPLS=20 forwarding devices. If there are any concerns or changes that need to be made please do not hesitate to contact us. Regards, Aamer Akhter Rajiv Asati =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Title : MPLS Benchmarking Methodology Author(s) : Aamer Akhter and Rajiv Asati Filename : draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2007-11-25 =09 The purpose of this draft is to describe a methodology specific to=20 the benchmarking of MPLS forwarding devices. The scope of this=20 benchmarking will be limited to various types of packet-forwarding=20 and delay measurements. It builds upon the tenets set forth in=20 RFC2544 [RFC2544], RFC1242 [RFC1242] and other IETF Benchmarking=20 =20 The BMWG produces two major classes of documents: Benchmarking=20 Terminology documents and Benchmarking Methodology documents. The=20 Terminology documents present the benchmarks and other related=20 terms. The Methodology documents define the procedures required to=20 collect the benchmarks cited in the corresponding Terminology=20 documents. A temporary URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.employees.org/~aamer/draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt -- Aamer Akhter / aakhter@cisco.com Rajiv Asati / rajiva@cisco.com _______________________________________________ bmwg mailing list bmwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg From bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 30 22:09:39 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyIjY-0002YY-VS; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:09:36 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyIjY-0002YF-3c for bmwg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:09:36 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com ([64.102.122.148]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyIjX-0001v7-Fg for bmwg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:09:36 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Nov 2007 22:09:33 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lB139XFl013907; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:09:33 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lB139WBa021042; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 03:09:32 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.53]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:09:32 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [bmwg] Updated draft on MPLS forwardingBenchmarking:draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:57 -0500 Message-ID: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B60483C123@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [bmwg] Updated draft on MPLS forwardingBenchmarking:draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt Thread-Index: AcZdhAMiMvEO6EMARq6PA2GE6e+aKnVLjaCQAEUzvRA= From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: "Rajiv Papneja" , "Aamer Akhter (aakhter)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2007 03:09:32.0740 (UTC) FILETIME=[9856E840:01C833C7] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=4936; t=1196478573; x=1197342573; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=rajiva@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Rajiv=20Asati=20(rajiva)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[bmwg]=20Updated=20draft=20on=20MPLS=20forwardingBenc hmarking=3Adraft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Rajiv=20Papneja=22=20, =0A=20=20=20=20=20= 20=20=20=22Aamer=20Akhter=20(aakhter)=22=20; bh=MQQFvulN339CtcRGV4FbMqYMOKkmHUk618uGpgACASg=; b=QzeIb8bti7qi/0X81RUptPPpsxPvbBisa/V3wFcWX+VXfPwpb7ORMF1xCmvB+UL2pmdCXOZY 1usql4SbsZgg2dt8KP7XGofZg8rzwMHkHqwOj9HXjKkBpCAgMNAZd6rG; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=rajiva@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f49c97ce49302a02285a2d36a99eef8c Cc: bmwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bmwg-bounces@ietf.org Hi Rajiv, Thanks for your support.=20 Good catch about the 2 or more label scenario (in section 6). That excerpt was supposed to be deleted. Glad you pointed out. Your suggestion regarding the section 6.4 and 6.5 is also worth incorporating.=20 Thanks again for your careful review and feedback.=20 Cheers, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: Rajiv Papneja [mailto:rpapneja@isocore.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:12 PM > To: Aamer Akhter (aakhter) > Cc: bmwg@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [bmwg] Updated draft on MPLS=20 > forwardingBenchmarking:draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt >=20 > Hello Aamer, Rajiv >=20 > Thanks for sending the pointer to your dradt for review.=20 > Considering that > there is an ongoing effort on LDP, and RSVP-TE convergence=20 > benchmarking this > work complements the two efforts. I do support this work,=20 > however I do have > a couple of minor comments:=20 >=20 > In the section 6, under the test setup you recommend for the=20 > test cases > involving 2 or more labels, the tester should emulate MPLS=20 > services such as > L3VPN, or L2VPN to ensure that two label stack is imposed=20 > before the frame > is offered to the DUT. IMHO, one may create traffic streams=20 > with multiple > labels rather than intorducing the complexity of L3VPN/L2VPN=20 > configurations > and deviating from the true forwarding benchmarking style=20 > testing which this > draft proposes. Similar to IP forwarding benchmarking using=20 > static routes > rather than enabling routing protocols on the DUT and tester=20 > for throughput measurements. >=20 > For section 6.4 and 6.5 since there are control plane recovery is also > important for correct traffic forwarding, the procedure should include > verifying whether the MPLS sessions are started to ensure new=20 > label bindings > are exchanged rather than tester using stale entries to send=20 > the traffic streams. >=20 > Regards, > Rajiv >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Aamer Akhter (aakhter) [mailto:aakhter@cisco.com]=20 > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:06 PM > > To: bmwg@ietf.org > > Subject: [bmwg] Updated draft on MPLS forwarding=20 > > Benchmarking:draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt > >=20 > > Hello BMWG, > >=20 > > We would like to bring to your attention the updated draft on=20 > > basic MPLS forwarding that we will be submitting to the IETF=20 > > as an individual submission (once submissions opens up=20 > > again). There have been significant changes since the last=20 > > version of the draft including: > >=20 > > * removal of many test cases thought to be out of scope > > * rewriting of many cases to be less verbose > > * addition of reload tests > >=20 > > http://www.employees.org/~aamer/draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt > >=20 > > Over the past several years MPLS networks have gained greater=20 > > popularity. However, there is no standard method to compare and=20 > > contrast the varying implementations and their strong and weak=20 > > points. This document proposes a methodology using=20 > common criteria=20 > > for the comparison of various implementations of basic MPLS=20 > > forwarding devices. > >=20 > > If there are any concerns or changes that need to be made=20 > > please do not hesitate to contact us. > >=20 > > Regards, > >=20 > > Aamer Akhter > > Rajiv Asati > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >=20 > > Title : MPLS Benchmarking Methodology > > Author(s) : Aamer Akhter and Rajiv Asati > > Filename : draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt > > Pages : 21 > > Date : 2007-11-25 > > =09 > > The purpose of this draft is to describe a methodology=20 > specific to=20 > > the benchmarking of MPLS forwarding devices. The scope of this=20 > > benchmarking will be limited to various types of=20 > packet-forwarding=20 > > and delay measurements. It builds upon the tenets set forth in=20 > > RFC2544 [RFC2544], RFC1242 [RFC1242] and other IETF Benchmarking=20 > > =20 > > The BMWG produces two major classes of documents: Benchmarking=20 > > Terminology documents and Benchmarking Methodology=20 > documents. The=20 > > Terminology documents present the benchmarks and other related=20 > > terms. The Methodology documents define the procedures=20 > required to=20 > > collect the benchmarks cited in the corresponding Terminology=20 > > documents. > >=20 > > A temporary URL for this Internet-Draft is: > > http://www.employees.org/~aamer/draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-03.txt > >=20 > > -- > > Aamer Akhter / aakhter@cisco.com > > Rajiv Asati / rajiva@cisco.com > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg >=20 _______________________________________________ bmwg mailing list bmwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg