From nobody Mon Apr 15 12:26:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bmwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bmwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCD1120194 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:26:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4oqeeHU7y9CZ for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aws.hosed.org (aws.hosed.org [50.16.104.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44B9E12018C for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aws.hosed.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E1281F8D for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:26:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aws.hosed.org Received: from aws.hosed.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aws.hosed.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cMC0NP7YOvRC for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.20.10.3] (mobile-166-170-38-51.mycingular.net [166.170.38.51]) by aws.hosed.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F04281F8C for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:26:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Sarah B Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_AC4EAE71-0430-4133-B805-7D578EA884EB" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Message-Id: <46F83EC2-E8AF-42D3-BC56-96CE60F49854@encrypted.net> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:26:49 -0700 To: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) Archived-At: Subject: [bmwg] Minutes and Action Items from IETF104 in Prague X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:26:56 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_AC4EAE71-0430-4133-B805-7D578EA884EB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello BMWG, Below is the link to the IETF104 minutes from Prague. There are = action items for several of the drafts, including those of us who raised = our hands to read the drafts. Please read the drafts! https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/minutes-104-bmwg-00 = Thanks Sarah --Apple-Mail=_AC4EAE71-0430-4133-B805-7D578EA884EB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hello BMWG,
     Below is the link to the IETF104 minutes from Prague. There are action items for several of the drafts, including those of us who raised our hands to read the drafts. Please read the drafts!



Thanks
Sarah

--Apple-Mail=_AC4EAE71-0430-4133-B805-7D578EA884EB-- From nobody Mon Apr 15 12:35:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bmwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bmwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C481B12019B for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:35:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AWefhCdVfUbl for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aws.hosed.org (aws.hosed.org [50.16.104.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EBAB12019A for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aws.hosed.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936D281F83 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:35:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aws.hosed.org Received: from aws.hosed.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aws.hosed.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d3RdfksQRVAY for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.20.10.3] (mobile-166-170-38-51.mycingular.net [166.170.38.51]) by aws.hosed.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 21AEE80FB4 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:35:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Sarah B Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9B96627A-123A-4461-AEC4-345EF8A0B251" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:35:13 -0700 References: <78868FB3-1995-43EE-ADF9-66F30C5F7CC3@encrypted.net> <4A38FE77-B59C-410D-9EB4-FD5D2D4E2346@encrypted.net> To: bmwg@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <4A38FE77-B59C-410D-9EB4-FD5D2D4E2346@encrypted.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) Archived-At: Subject: [bmwg] 2nd WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:35:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9B96627A-123A-4461-AEC4-345EF8A0B251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I'd sent this first wGLC for draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest before = Christmas, and while I gave it a longer period of time for comments, = we've received none. So, I'd like to send it through WGLC again, ending = Tuesday, April 30. Please share your comments and feedback here on the = list. Thanks Sarah > On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B wrote: >=20 > Hi BMWG, > A quick clarification. The WGLC is for the Internet-Draft = describing a benchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT BGP = Basic Convergence. My apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft = link below is incorrect as well; data tracker no longer references full = links with versions, so please use: >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest = >=20 > And note that the current version as of this email/time of = writing is -01. >=20 > Thanks, > Sarah >=20 >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B > wrote: >>=20 >> Hello BMWG, >> =09 >> A Working Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft = describing BGP Basic convergence: >>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest-01 = >>=20 >> will be open for 6 weeks from today, and close on January 18, 2019. = This is a bit longer of a WGLC window, but accommodates the end of year = interruptions some members might experience. Please weigh in on whether = or not you feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area = Directors for consideration to progressing as an Informational RFC. Send = your comments to this list. Your timely and prompt review and feedback = is greatly appreciated! >>=20 >> Kind regards, >> Sarah/Al >> BMWG co-chairs >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwg mailing list >> bmwg@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg --Apple-Mail=_9B96627A-123A-4461-AEC4-345EF8A0B251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hello,
I'd sent this first wGLC for = draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest before Christmas, and while I gave it a longer = period of time for comments, we've received none. So, I'd like to send = it through WGLC again, ending Tuesday, April 30. Please share your = comments and feedback here on the list.

Thanks
Sarah


On Dec = 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B <sbanks@encrypted.net> wrote:

Hi BMWG,
= A quick clarification. The WGLC is for the Internet-Draft = describing a benchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT BGP = Basic Convergence. My apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft = link below is incorrect as well; data tracker no longer references full = links with versions, so please use:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest

And note = that the current version as of this email/time of writing is = -01.

Thanks,
Sarah

On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B <sbanks@encrypted.net> wrote:

Hello = BMWG,

A Working = Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft describing BGP = Basic convergence:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest-01

will be open for 6 weeks from today, and = close on January 18, 2019. This is a bit longer of a WGLC window, but = accommodates the end of year interruptions some members might = experience.  Please weigh in on whether or not you feel that this = Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directors for consideration = to progressing as an Informational RFC. Send your comments to this list. = Your timely and prompt review and feedback is greatly appreciated!

Kind regards,
Sarah/Al
BMWG co-chairs
_______________________________________________
bmwg mailing list
bmwg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg

_______________________________________________
bmwg mailing list
bmwg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg

= --Apple-Mail=_9B96627A-123A-4461-AEC4-345EF8A0B251-- From nobody Mon Apr 15 12:38:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bmwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bmwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D474212011D for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tbOpHho2lfqu for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aws.hosed.org (aws.hosed.org [50.16.104.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B34F12017B for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aws.hosed.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C215F81F85 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:38:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aws.hosed.org Received: from aws.hosed.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aws.hosed.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q2ekPjvPr4ZC for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.20.10.3] (mobile-166-170-38-51.mycingular.net [166.170.38.51]) by aws.hosed.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4693A81F83 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:38:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Sarah B Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DA1C7659-B138-4CBA-B657-318D054E44BB" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:38:23 -0700 References: <78868FB3-1995-43EE-ADF9-66F30C5F7CC3@encrypted.net> <4A38FE77-B59C-410D-9EB4-FD5D2D4E2346@encrypted.net> To: bmwg@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bmwg] 2nd WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:38:28 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_DA1C7659-B138-4CBA-B657-318D054E44BB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, (with my participant hat on) =09 Authors, I have a concern with this draft moving forward, in = light of 2 other proposals coming in. It's not that I object to the = content of the draft per se, but rather, I think some consolidation = could happen. First, it appears that you, the authors, have a second, separate = draft, covering Multicast. I'm wondering if that can fit in here. Also, = a few folks from AT&T submitted what appears to be a complementary (to = this one) draft that makes me think that we'd be better served with = consolidation here. I'd like to ask both the authors of this draft, and = Al/Jim, to discuss and see if unification makes sense. Thanks Sarah (with participant hat on!!) > On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Sarah B wrote: >=20 > Hello, > I'd sent this first wGLC for draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest before = Christmas, and while I gave it a longer period of time for comments, = we've received none. So, I'd like to send it through WGLC again, ending = Tuesday, April 30. Please share your comments and feedback here on the = list. >=20 > Thanks > Sarah >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi BMWG, >> A quick clarification. The WGLC is for the Internet-Draft = describing a benchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT BGP = Basic Convergence. My apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft = link below is incorrect as well; data tracker no longer references full = links with versions, so please use: >>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest = >>=20 >> And note that the current version as of this email/time of = writing is -01. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Sarah >>=20 >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hello BMWG, >>> =09 >>> A Working Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft = describing BGP Basic convergence: >>>=20 >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest-01 = >>>=20 >>> will be open for 6 weeks from today, and close on January 18, 2019. = This is a bit longer of a WGLC window, but accommodates the end of year = interruptions some members might experience. Please weigh in on whether = or not you feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area = Directors for consideration to progressing as an Informational RFC. Send = your comments to this list. Your timely and prompt review and feedback = is greatly appreciated! >>>=20 >>> Kind regards, >>> Sarah/Al >>> BMWG co-chairs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bmwg mailing list >>> bmwg@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwg mailing list >> bmwg@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg --Apple-Mail=_DA1C7659-B138-4CBA-B657-318D054E44BB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi,
(with my participant hat = on)
Authors, = I have a concern with this draft moving forward, in light of 2 other = proposals coming in. It's not that I object to the content of the draft = per se, but rather, I think some consolidation could happen.
= First, it appears that you, the authors, have a second, separate = draft, covering Multicast. I'm wondering if that can fit in here. Also, = a few folks from AT&T submitted what appears to be a complementary = (to this one) draft that makes me think that we'd be better served with = consolidation here. I'd like to ask both the authors of this draft, and = Al/Jim, to discuss and see if unification makes sense.

Thanks
Sarah (with participant hat on!!)

On Apr = 15, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Sarah B <sbanks@encrypted.net> wrote:

Hello,
= I'd sent this first wGLC for draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest before = Christmas, and while I gave it a longer period of time for comments, = we've received none. So, I'd like to send it through WGLC again, ending = Tuesday, April 30. Please share your comments and feedback here on the = list.

Thanks
Sarah


On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B <sbanks@encrypted.net> wrote:

Hi BMWG,
= A quick clarification. The WGLC is for the Internet-Draft = describing a benchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT BGP = Basic Convergence. My apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft = link below is incorrect as well; data tracker no longer references full = links with versions, so please use:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest

And note = that the current version as of this email/time of writing is = -01.

Thanks,
Sarah

On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B <sbanks@encrypted.net> wrote:

Hello = BMWG,

A Working = Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft describing BGP = Basic convergence:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest-01

will be open for 6 weeks from today, and = close on January 18, 2019. This is a bit longer of a WGLC window, but = accommodates the end of year interruptions some members might = experience.  Please weigh in on whether or not you feel that this = Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directors for consideration = to progressing as an Informational RFC. Send your comments to this list. = Your timely and prompt review and feedback is greatly appreciated!

Kind regards,
Sarah/Al
BMWG co-chairs
_______________________________________________
bmwg mailing list
bmwg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg

_______________________________________________
bmwg mailing list
bmwg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg

_______________________________________________
bmwg mailing list
bmwg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg

= --Apple-Mail=_DA1C7659-B138-4CBA-B657-318D054E44BB-- From nobody Tue Apr 16 10:15:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bmwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bmwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CDD120152 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:15:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id efGcbVNuXwC4 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aws.hosed.org (aws.hosed.org [50.16.104.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15F331200D5 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aws.hosed.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26B480632 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:15:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aws.hosed.org Received: from aws.hosed.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aws.hosed.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0g2bAsVgyen7 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.20.10.5] (mobile-166-171-251-181.mycingular.net [166.171.251.181]) by aws.hosed.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20C718003C for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:15:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Sarah Banks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D438E520-51C8-4341-81BD-7A4606C2A8A1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:15:23 -0700 Message-Id: <11406412-B50F-4880-9B4E-A9294D0B503E@encrypted.net> References: <2479246E-63A2-45C4-989D-2CC25D8C08D0@encrypted.net> In-Reply-To: <2479246E-63A2-45C4-989D-2CC25D8C08D0@encrypted.net> To: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailer: iPad Mail (16E227) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bmwg] Call for Adoption: Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device Performance X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 17:15:30 -0000 --Apple-Mail-D438E520-51C8-4341-81BD-7A4606C2A8A1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello BMWG, As co-chair, I=E2=80=99m calling Consensus on the call for WG adoption for t= he B2B Frame draft. Thanks to the author (my co-chair!) and everyone else who indicated support b= oth on the list, and in the previous IETF sessions. The original call for ad= option ended at IETF104, and there was an action item for me to call consens= us on list, which this email completes. I would expect to see the draft replaced with draft-ietf- shortly, and= we=E2=80=99ll continue our discussions on list and most likely Montreal. Pl= ease read the draft, and submit your feedback/questions/comments to bmwg@iet= f.org.=20 Kind regards, Sarah BMWG Co-Chair =20 > On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Sarah B wrote: >=20 > Hello BMWG, > Another presentation of the NG Firewall draft at IETF103 in Bangkok= was well received. Thank you for your reviews and feedback. The draft can b= e found here: > =09 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-balarajah-bmwg-ngfw-performa= nce/ > =09 > There has been a lot of discussion, interest, review, and comments o= n the draft, and I'd like to call for adoption of this draft by the WG. Plea= se reply to this email before December 21, 2018 and indicate: >=20 > (1) whether you support addition of the following milestone to=20 > the BMWG charter: >=20 > date TBD: Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device Performance= >=20 >=20 > (2) whether you support the adoption of draft-balarajah-bmwg-ngfw-performa= nce-05 >=20 > as the basis document for this milestone >=20 > (3) whether you commit to reviewing the WG document if adopted >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks for your consideration of the draft! >=20 > Kind regards, > Sarah > bmwg co-chair > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg --Apple-Mail-D438E520-51C8-4341-81BD-7A4606C2A8A1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hel= lo BMWG,

As co-chair, I=E2=80=99m calling Consensus on the cal= l for = WG adoption for the B2B Frame draft.


Thanks to t= he author (my co-chair!) and everyone else who indicated support both on the= list, and in the previous IETF sessions. The original call for adoption end= ed at IETF104, and there was an action item for me to call consensus on list= , which this email completes.


I would expect t= o see the draft replaced with draft-ietf-<text> shortly, and we=E2=80=99= ll continue our discussions on list and most likely Montreal. Please read th= e draft, and submit your feedback/questions/comments to bmwg@ietf.org. 


Kind reg= ards,

<= span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sarah

BMWG Co-Chair

 

On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Sara= h B <sbanks@encrypted.net>= wrote:

Hello BMWG,= Another presentation of the NG Firewall draft at IETF103 in Bangkok w= as well received. Thank you for your reviews and feedback. The draft can be f= ound here:
https://datatrack= er.ietf.org/doc/draft-balarajah-bmwg-ngfw-performance/
There has been a lot of discussion, interest, review, and co= mments on the draft, and I'd like to call for adoption of this draft by the W= G. Please reply to this email before December 21, 2018 and indicate:

(1) whether you support a= ddition of the following milestone to 
  the BM= WG charter:

date TBD: Ben= chmarking Methodology for Network Security Device Performance


(2) whether you support the adoption of draft-balarajah-bmwg-ngfw-performance-05

      as the basis document f= or this milestone

(3) whether you commit to reviewing the WG document if adopted



Thanks for your consideratio= n of the draft!

Ki= nd regards,
Sarah
bmwg co-chair
____________= ___________________________________
bmwg mailing list=
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Contreras" Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:38:38 +0200 Message-ID: To: bmwg@ietf.org Cc: luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000768f810586cb9bc4" Archived-At: Subject: [bmwg] Review of draft-dcn-bmwg-containerized-infra-00 X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:38:59 -0000 --000000000000768f810586cb9bc4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, As committed during IETF#104 Prague meeting, I have performed a review of draft-dcn-bmwg-containerized-infra-00. These are my comments. /* General comments */ .- I think the draft is a very good starting point for highlighting the differences and implications due to distinct options of virtualization methods. However, as it is written now, the draft only visualizes a number of differences with the VM based approach or alternatives to consider for containers in several aspects (networking, memory, hardware, etc), but it does not provide specific guidance or recommendations about what and how to test and benchmark the containerized case. So, in my opinion, a good path to follow would be to include some guidelines in next versions of the draft= . .- When talking about container solutions (e.g., Docker, Kubernettes) no references/links are included in the draft. Having some references would help readers by pointing out where to look at. .- As every technological option, containers have some pros and cons. Some pros are provided in the draft (e.g., lightweight virtualization scheme), but no cons are mentioned. Being this a document of the BMWG, I think it would be convenient to highlight also potential cons due to containerization in such a way that it can help the reader to take the proper decision on what is the more appropriate virtualization technology to follow from his/her point of view and needs. .- Reference [ETSI-TST-009] is mentioned several times in the draft. I think it would be good to make explicit what are the additions that this draft provides with respect to [ETSI-TST-009]. /* Editorial comments */ .- It would be convenient to shift to the right the different bullets along the draft. This would make the draft more readable. .- In the Abstract: =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 will be partially changed by way of = resource allocation and network port binding between a physical host and VNFs.=E2=80= =9D =E2=80=93 maybe re-write in this way: =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 will be partially changed by= the way in which the resource allocation and network port binding between a physical host and VNFs is performed.=E2=80=9D .- the VM based option is sometimes referred as =E2=80=9CVM based=E2=80=9D = and others as =E2=80=9CVM-based=E2=80=9D. A uniform reference is advised. .- In section 3.2: =E2=80=9COther deployment models are classified bases on= whether =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D =C3=A0 =E2=80=9COther deployment models are classified b= ased on whether =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D .- Figure 2 reflects 4 different options. I think it would be good to describe in the title of the figure each of these options (reference to case (a), (b), etc). Best regards, Luis ___________________________________________ Luis M. Contreras contreras.ietf@gmail.com luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com Global CTIO unit / Telefonica --000000000000768f810586cb9bc4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,

As committed = during IETF#104 Prague meeting, I have performed a review of draft-dcn-bmwg-containerized-infra-00. These are my comments.

/* General co= mments */

.- I think th= e draft is a very good starting point for highlighting the differences and implications due to distinct options of virtualization methods. However, as it is written now, the draft only visua= lizes a number of differences with the VM based approach or alternatives to consi= der for containers in several aspects (networking, memory, hardware, etc), but = it does not provide specific guidance or recommendations about what and how to test= and benchmark the containerized case. So, in my opinion, a good path to follow would be to include some guidelines in next versions of the draft.

.- When talki= ng about container solutions (e.g., Docker, Kubernettes) no references/links are included in the draft. Having some ref= erences would help readers by pointing out where to look at.

.- As every t= echnological option, containers have some pros and cons. Some pros are provided in the draft (e.g., lightweight virtualiza= tion scheme), but no cons are mentioned. Being this a document of the BMWG, I th= ink it would be convenient to highlight also potential cons due to containeriza= tion in such a way that it can help the reader to take the proper decision on wh= at is the more appropriate virtualization technology to follow from his/her po= int of view and needs.

.- Reference = [ETSI-TST-009] is mentioned several times in the draft. I think it would be good to make explicit what are the additions= that this draft provides with respect to [ETSI-TST-009].

/* Editorial = comments */

.- It would b= e convenient to shift to the right the different bullets along the draft. This would make the draft more readable.=

.- In the Abs= tract: =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 will be partially changed by way of resource allocation and network port binding between a physical host and VN= Fs.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 maybe re-write in this way: =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 will be partially = changed by the way in which the resource allocation and network port binding between a physical host an= d VNFs is performed.=E2=80=9D

.- the VM bas= ed option is sometimes referred as =E2=80=9CVM based=E2=80=9D and others as =E2=80=9CVM-based=E2=80=9D. A uniform reference is advised.

.- In section= 3.2: =E2=80=9COther deployment models are classified bases on whether =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D =C3=A0<= /span> =E2=80=9COther deployment models are classified based on whether =E2=80=A6= =E2=80=9D

.- Figure 2 r= eflects 4 different options. I think it would be good to describe in the title of the figure each of these options (refer= ence to case (a), (b), etc).

Best regards,=


___________________________________________
Luis= M. Contreras
Global CTIO unit / Telefonic= a
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Contreras" , "" Cc: "LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mailbird/2.5.42.0 X-Mailbird-ID: c7b864fc-53cd-4308-953b-c918194bd63c@getmailbird.com X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 190417-4, 2019-04-18), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bmwg] Review of draft-dcn-bmwg-containerized-infra-00 X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:56:51 -0000 ------=_NextPart_66821676.130518401083 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Luis, Thank you very much for your comments. I agree with your conmments In the next version, I will try to add contents including especially test s= cenarios and guidelines. And also I think that analysis should be contained not only advantages of c= ontainerized infrastructure but also constraints. I will try to add that pa= rt also. All editorial comments are also helpful for next version of this draft. I w= ill reflect your comments. Kind regards, KJ Kyoungjae Sun / K. J. SUN (Ph. D. Student) Distributed Computing Network laboratory (DCN Lab) School of Electronic Engineering, Soongsil Univ. 369 Sangdo-ro, Dongjak-gu, Seoul. Tel. +82-2-814-0151 Mobile +82-10-3643-5627 Email gomaje@dcn.ssu.ac.kr On 2019-04-18 =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 7:39:31, Luis M. Contreras wrote: Dear all, As committed during IETF#104 Prague meeting, I have performed a review of d= raft-dcn-bmwg-containerized-infra-00. These are my comments. /* General comments */ =2E- I think the draft is a very good starting point for highlighting the d= ifferences and implications due to distinct options of virtualization metho= ds. However, as it is written now, the draft only visualizes a number of di= fferences with the VM based approach or alternatives to consider for contai= ners in several aspects (networking, memory, hardware, etc), but it does no= t provide specific guidance or recommendations about what and how to test a= nd benchmark the containerized case. So, in my opinion, a good path to foll= ow would be to include some guidelines in next versions of the draft. =2E- When talking about container solutions (e.g., Docker, Kubernettes) no = references/links are included in the draft. Having some references would he= lp readers by pointing out where to look at. =2E- As every technological option, containers have some pros and cons. Som= e pros are provided in the draft (e.g., lightweight virtualization scheme),= but no cons are mentioned. Being this a document of the BMWG, I think it w= ould be convenient to highlight also potential cons due to containerization= in such a way that it can help the reader to take the proper decision on w= hat is the more appropriate virtualization technology to follow from his/he= r point of view and needs. =2E- Reference [ETSI-TST-009] is mentioned several times in the draft. I th= ink it would be good to make explicit what are the additions that this draf= t provides with respect to [ETSI-TST-009]. /* Editorial comments */ =2E- It would be convenient to shift to the right the different bullets alo= ng the draft. This would make the draft more readable. =2E- In the Abstract: =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 will be partially changed by way o= f resource allocation and network port binding between a physical host and = VNFs.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 maybe re-write in this way: =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 wil= l be partially changed by the way in which the resource allocation and netw= ork port binding between a physical host and VNFs is performed.=E2=80=9D =2E- the VM based option is sometimes referred as =E2=80=9CVM based=E2=80= =9D and others as =E2=80=9CVM-based=E2=80=9D. A uniform reference is advise= d. =2E- In section 3.2: =E2=80=9COther deployment models are classified bases = on whether =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D =C3=A0 =E2=80=9COther deployment models are c= lassified based on whether =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D =2E- Figure 2 reflects 4 different options. I think it would be good to des= cribe in the title of the figure each of these options (reference to case (= a), (b), etc). Best regards, Luis=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 ___________________________________________ Luis M. Contreras contreras.ietf@gmail.com [mailto:contreras.ietf@gmail.com]=C2=A0 luismiguel..contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com [mailto:luismiguel.contrerasmur= illo@telefonica.com] Global CTIO unit / Telefonica _______________________________________________ bmwg mailing list bmwg@ietf= =2Eorg https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg --- =EC=9D=B4 =EC=9D=B4=EB=A9=94=EC=9D=BC=EC=9D=80 Avast =EC=95=88=ED=8B=B0=EB= =B0=94=EC=9D=B4=EB=9F=AC=EC=8A=A4 =EC=86=8C=ED=94=84=ED=8A=B8=EC=9B=A8=EC= =96=B4=EB=A1=9C =EB=B0=94=EC=9D=B4=EB=9F=AC=EC=8A=A4 =EA=B2=80=EC=82=AC=EB= =A5=BC =EC=99=84=EB=A3=8C=ED=96=88=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------=_NextPart_66821676.130518401083 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Luis,

Thank = you very much for your comments. I agree with your conmments

=
In the next version, I will try to add contents including especi= ally test scenarios and guidelines.

And also I thi= nk that analysis should be contained not only advantages of containerized i= nfrastructure but also constraints. I will try to add that part also.
=

All editorial comments are also helpful for next versio= n of this draft. I will reflect your comments.

Kin= d regards,

KJ

Kyo= ungjae Sun / K. J. SUN (Ph. D. Student)

Distributed Computing Network laboratory= (DCN Lab)

369 Sangdo-ro, Dongjak-gu, Se= oul.

<= p style=3D"color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans:= 2; widows: 2;">Tel.= +82-2-814-0151<= /span>

Mobile +82-10-3643-5627

Email gomaje@dcn.ssu.ac.kr

Dear all,

As committed during IETF#104 Prague meeting, I hav= e performed a review of draft-dcn-bmwg-containerized-infra-00. These are my= comments.

/* General comments */

.- I think the draft is a very good starting poin= t for highlighting the differences and implications due to distinct options= of virtualization methods. However, as it is written now, the draft only v= isualizes a number of differences with the VM based approach or alternative= s to consider for containers in several aspects (networking, memory, hardwa= re, etc), but it does not provide specific guidance or recommendations abou= t what and how to test and benchmark the containerized case. So, in my opin= ion, a good path to follow would be to include some guidelines in next vers= ions of the draft.

.- When talking about container solutions (e.g., Docker, Kub= ernettes) no references/links are included in the draft. Having some refere= nces would help readers by pointing out where to look at.

.- As every technolog= ical option, containers have some pros and cons. Some pros are provided in = the draft (e.g., lightweight virtualization scheme), but no cons are mentio= ned. Being this a document of the BMWG, I think it would be convenient to h= ighlight also potential cons due to containerization in such a way that it = can help the reader to take the proper decision on what is the more appropr= iate virtualization technology to follow from his/her point of view and nee= ds.

= =2E- Reference [ETSI-TST-009] is mentioned several times in the draft. I th= ink it would be good to make explicit what are the additions that this draf= t provides with respect to [ETSI-TST-009].

/* Editorial comments */

.- It would be= convenient to shift to the right the different bullets along the draft. Th= is would make the draft more readable.

.- In the Abstract: =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 w= ill be partially changed by way of resource allocation and network port bin= ding between a physical host and VNFs.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 maybe re-write in= this way: =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 will be partially changed by the way in which= the resource allocation and network port binding between a physical host a= nd VNFs is performed.=E2=80=9D

.- the VM based option is sometimes referred as = =E2=80=9CVM based=E2=80=9D and others as =E2=80=9CVM-based=E2=80=9D. A unif= orm reference is advised.

.- In section 3.2: =E2=80=9COther deployment models a= re classified bases on whether =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D =C3=A0 =E2=80=9COther deployment models are classified = based on whether =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D

.- Figure 2 reflects 4 different options. I= think it would be good to describe in the title of the figure each of thes= e options (reference to case (a), (b), etc).

Best regards,

Luis=     

___________________________________________
Luis M. Contreras<= br>
Global CTIO unit / Telefonica
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In my view, this draft is very informative to evaluate packet throughput performance in the NFV environment. However, we need to reduce the test duration time in PNF (Whenever I perform the 2544 test, I felt that.). This draft states that "a common way to evaluate NFV packet throughput performance". Can we apply MLRsearch to PNF and NFV both? In 3, caveats section, would you provide the example of drastic changes in behavior? Please, add MRR to Terminology section. Previous version, there were a,b,c,d. but, there is no a,b,c,d.. in 01 version. Please, make sure that. 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Kindly= share before WGLC window expires before 30th April 2019. Kindly share yo= ur inputs. Regards, Sudhin -----Original Message----- From: bmwg On Behalf Of bmwg-request@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:46 PM To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: bmwg Digest, Vol 175, Issue 1 Send bmwg mailing list submissions to bmwg@ietf.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mailma= n_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&= r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5F= nt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-AjiyE&e=3D or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to bmwg-request@ietf.org You can reach the person managing the list at bmwg-owner@ietf.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "R= e: Contents of bmwg digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Minutes and Action Items from IETF104 in Prague (Sarah B) 2. 2nd WGLC for https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ie= tf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbf= h0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m= =3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8IvbmIu4= Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D (Sarah B) 3. Re: 2nd WGLC for https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ie= tf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbf= h0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m= =3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8IvbmIu4= Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D (Sarah B) 4. Re: Call for Adoption: Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device Performance (Sarah Banks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:26:49 -0700 From: Sarah B To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: [bmwg] Minutes and Action Items from IETF104 in Prague Message-ID: <46F83EC2-E8AF-42D3-BC56-96CE60F49854@encrypted.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hello BMWG, Below is the link to the IETF104 minutes from Prague. There are action= items for several of the drafts, including those of us who raised our hand= s to read the drafts. Please read the drafts! https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org= _meeting_104_materials_minutes-2D104-2Dbmwg-2D00&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsu= hr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhI= U_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DKeaXc8LVnNgEv_I7Y= ekJCcJ01m65YpHlumDGS6SlcXs&e=3D Thanks Sarah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:35:13 -0700 From: Sarah B To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: [bmwg] 2nd WGLC for https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.or= g_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjB= XeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWq= ezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8IvbmIu4Ro0z6= bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hello, I'd sent this first wGLC for draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest before Christmas, an= d while I gave it a longer period of time for comments, we've received none= . So, I'd like to send it through WGLC again, ending Tuesday, April 30. Ple= ase share your comments and feedback here on the list. Thanks Sarah > On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B wrote: >=20 > Hi BMWG, > A quick clarification. The WGLC is for the Internet-Draft describing a b= enchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT BGP Basic Convergence. M= y apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft link below is incorrect = as well; data tracker no longer references full links with versions, so ple= ase use: >=20 > =09 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf. > org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh= 0 > UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw& > m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8Ivbm= I > u4Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D=20 > .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbf= h > 0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw > &m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8Ivb= m > Iu4Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D> >=20 > And note that the current version as of this email/time of writing is -0= 1. >=20 > Thanks, > Sarah >=20 >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B > wrote: >>=20 >> Hello BMWG, >> =09 >> A Working Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft describi= ng BGP Basic convergence: >>=20 >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf >> .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest-2D01&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuh= r >> 6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-Q >> hIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DnfeWPM8c7Bow= E >> lTvG5Xekus4MecFwvNP6wCSpgInIHw&e=3D=20 >> > f.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest-2D01&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsu= h >> r6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB- >> QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DnfeWPM8c7Bo= w >> ElTvG5Xekus4MecFwvNP6wCSpgInIHw&e=3D> >>=20 >> will be open for 6 weeks from today, and close on January 18, 2019. This= is a bit longer of a WGLC window, but accommodates the end of year interru= ptions some members might experience. Please weigh in on whether or not yo= u feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directors for c= onsideration to progressing as an Informational RFC. Send your comments to = this list. Your timely and prompt review and feedback is greatly appreciate= d! >>=20 >> Kind regards, >> Sarah/Al >> BMWG co-chairs >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwg mailing list >> bmwg@ietf.org >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mai >> lman_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXc= W >> zoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEm= a >> VY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-A >> jiyE&e=3D >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mail > man_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWz= o > CI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY= 8 > pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-AjiyE > &e=3D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:38:23 -0700 From: Sarah B To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bmwg] 2nd WGLC for https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.or= g_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjB= XeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWq= ezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8IvbmIu4Ro0z6= bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hi, (with my participant hat on) =09 Authors, I have a concern with this draft moving forward, in light of 2 ot= her proposals coming in. It's not that I object to the content of the draft= per se, but rather, I think some consolidation could happen. First, it appears that you, the authors, have a second, separate draft, co= vering Multicast. I'm wondering if that can fit in here. Also, a few folks = from AT&T submitted what appears to be a complementary (to this one) draft = that makes me think that we'd be better served with consolidation here. I'd= like to ask both the authors of this draft, and Al/Jim, to discuss and see= if unification makes sense. Thanks Sarah (with participant hat on!!) > On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Sarah B wrote: >=20 > Hello, > I'd sent this first wGLC for draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest before Christmas, = and while I gave it a longer period of time for comments, we've received no= ne. So, I'd like to send it through WGLC again, ending Tuesday, April 30. P= lease share your comments and feedback here on the list. >=20 > Thanks > Sarah >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi BMWG, >> A quick clarification. The WGLC is for the Internet-Draft describing a = benchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT BGP Basic Convergence. = My apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft link below is incorrect= as well; data tracker no longer references full links with versions, so pl= ease use: >>=20 >> =09 >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf >> .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scb= f >> h0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_S >> rw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8= I >> vbmIu4Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D=20 >> > f.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Sc= b >> fh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_ >> Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR= 8 >> IvbmIu4Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D> >>=20 >> And note that the current version as of this email/time of writing is -= 01. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Sarah >>=20 >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hello BMWG, >>> =09 >>> A Working Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft describ= ing BGP Basic convergence: >>>=20 >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.iet >>> f.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest-2D01&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rs= u >>> hr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRew >>> B-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DnfeWPM8c= 7 >>> BowElTvG5Xekus4MecFwvNP6wCSpgInIHw&e=3D=20 >>> >> tf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest-2D01&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63r= s >>> uhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRe >>> wB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DnfeWPM8= c >>> 7BowElTvG5Xekus4MecFwvNP6wCSpgInIHw&e=3D> >>>=20 >>> will be open for 6 weeks from today, and close on January 18, 2019. Thi= s is a bit longer of a WGLC window, but accommodates the end of year interr= uptions some members might experience. Please weigh in on whether or not y= ou feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directors for = consideration to progressing as an Informational RFC. Send your comments to= this list. Your timely and prompt review and feedback is greatly appreciat= ed! >>>=20 >>> Kind regards, >>> Sarah/Al >>> BMWG co-chairs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bmwg mailing list >>> bmwg@ietf.org =20 >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_ma >>> ilman_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDT= X >>> cWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7= y >>> EmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3 >>> O_-AjiyE&e=3D >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwg mailing list >> bmwg@ietf.org >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mai >> lman_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXc= W >> zoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEm= a >> VY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-A >> jiyE&e=3D >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mail > man_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWz= o > CI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY= 8 > pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-AjiyE > &e=3D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:15:23 -0700 From: Sarah Banks To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bmwg] Call for Adoption: Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device Performance Message-ID: <11406412-B50F-4880-9B4E-A9294D0B503E@encrypted.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" Hello BMWG, As co-chair, I?m calling Consensus on the call for WG adoption for the B2B = Frame draft. Thanks to the author (my co-chair!) and everyone else who indicated support= both on the list, and in the previous IETF sessions. The original call for= adoption ended at IETF104, and there was an action item for me to call con= sensus on list, which this email completes. I would expect to see the draft replaced with draft-ietf- shortly, an= d we?ll continue our discussions on list and most likely Montreal. Please r= ead the draft, and submit your feedback/questions/comments to bmwg@ietf.org= .=20 Kind regards, Sarah BMWG Co-Chair =20 > On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Sarah B wrote: >=20 > Hello BMWG, > Another presentation of the NG Firewall draft at IETF103 in Bangkok was = well received. Thank you for your reviews and feedback. The draft can be fo= und here: > =09 > =09 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf. > org_doc_draft-2Dbalarajah-2Dbmwg-2Dngfw-2Dperformance_&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAk= Y > uh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-Ad > kLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DPjSU9= G > Py-eqeCGqlk2T8gtfAXQno5wxB_6huAAVgKPI&e=3D > =09 > There has been a lot of discussion, interest, review, and comments on th= e draft, and I'd like to call for adoption of this draft by the WG. Please = reply to this email before December 21, 2018 and indicate: >=20 > (1) whether you support addition of the following milestone to=20 > the BMWG charter: >=20 > date TBD: Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device=20 > Performance >=20 >=20 > (2) whether you support the adoption of=20 > draft-balarajah-bmwg-ngfw-performance-05 >=20 > as the basis document for this milestone >=20 > (3) whether you commit to reviewing the WG document if adopted >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks for your consideration of the draft! >=20 > Kind regards, > Sarah > bmwg co-chair > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mail > man_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWz= o > CI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY= 8 > pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-AjiyE > &e=3D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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acmorton@att.com, bmwg@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.95.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <155603979137.32421.17788564235658195415.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 10:16:31 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [bmwg] bmwg - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 105 X-BeenThere: bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:16:32 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Alfred Channon Morton, a Chair of the bmwg working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Benchmarking Methodology Area Name: Operations and Management Area Session Requester: Al Morton Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 30 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: maprg tictoc tsvwg idr ippm quic ntp Second 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bmwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Benchmarking Methodology Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 18:41:17 -0000 --0000000000000dbd9b05879b8359 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello I have read through this doc and support it. Definitely need such work. Thanks Nabeel On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:48 AM Rukesh D wrote: > I went through the draft. It covers all the fail-over scenarios and > bench-marks the convergence of traffic. These test cases are highly neede= d > for any deployment. As and when, new enhancements are implemented, these > test cases helps to benchmark. > > I support this draft. > > > > > > Thanks, > > Rukesh > > *From: *bmwg on behalf of Sarah B < > sbanks@encrypted.net> > *Date: *Monday, April 15, 2019 at 12:35 PM > *To: *"bmwg@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[bmwg] 2nd WGLC for > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest > > > > Hello, > > I'd sent this first wGLC for draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest before Christmas, > and while I gave it a longer period of time for comments, we've received > none. So, I'd like to send it through WGLC again, ending Tuesday, April 3= 0. > Please share your comments and feedback here on the list. > > > > Thanks > > Sarah > > > > > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B wrote: > > > > Hi BMWG, > > A quick clarification. The WGLC is for the Internet-Draft describing a > benchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT BGP Basic Convergence= . > My apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft link below is incorre= ct > as well; data tracker no longer references full links with versions, so > please use: > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest > > > > > And note that the current version as of this email/time of writing is -01= . > > > > Thanks, > > Sarah > > > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B wrote: > > > > Hello BMWG, > > A Working Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft describing > BGP Basic convergence: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest-01 > > > will be open for 6 weeks from today, and close on January 18, 2019. This > is a bit longer of a WGLC window, but accommodates the end of year > interruptions some members might experience. Please weigh in on whether = or > not you feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directo= rs > for consideration to progressing as an Informational RFC. Send your > comments to this list. Your timely and prompt review and feedback is > greatly appreciated! > > Kind regards, > Sarah/Al > BMWG co-chairs > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg > > > > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg > > > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg > --0000000000000dbd9b05879b8359 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello

I have read through this doc and support it. Definitely need suc= h work.=C2=A0

Thanks
Nabeel

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:48 AM Rukesh D <rukeshd=3D40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org&g= t; wrote:

I went through the draft. It covers all the fail-ove= r scenarios and bench-marks the convergence of traffic. These test cases ar= e highly needed for any deployment. As and when, new enhancements are imple= mented, these test cases helps to benchmark.

I support this draft.

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Thanks,

Rukesh

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Hello,

I'd sent this first wGLC for draft-ietf-bmwg-evp= ntest before Christmas, and while I gave it a longer period of time for com= ments, we've received none. So, I'd like to send it through WGLC ag= ain, ending Tuesday, April 30. Please share your comments and feedback here on the list.

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Thanks

Sarah

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On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B <sbanks@encrypted.net> = wrote:

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Hi BMWG,

A quick clarification.=C2=A0The WGLC is for the Inte= rnet-Draft describing a benchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT= BGP Basic Convergence. My apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft= link below is incorrect as well; data tracker no longer references full links with versions, so please use:

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And note that the current version as of this email/t= ime of writing is -01.

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Thanks,

Sarah

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On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B <sbanks@encrypted.net> = wrote:

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Hello BMWG,

A Working Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft describing B= GP Basic convergence:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest-01

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Today's Topics: 1. Minutes and Action Items from IETF104 in Prague (Sarah B) 2. 2nd WGLC for https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ie= tf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbf= h0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m= =3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8IvbmIu4= Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D (Sarah B) 3. Re: 2nd WGLC for https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ie= tf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbf= h0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m= =3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8IvbmIu4= Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D (Sarah B) 4. Re: Call for Adoption: Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device Performance (Sarah Banks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:26:49 -0700 From: Sarah B To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: [bmwg] Minutes and Action Items from IETF104 in Prague Message-ID: <46F83EC2-E8AF-42D3-BC56-96CE60F49854@encrypted.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hello BMWG, Below is the link to the IETF104 minutes from Prague. There are action= items for several of the drafts, including those of us who raised our hand= s to read the drafts. Please read the drafts! https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org= _meeting_104_materials_minutes-2D104-2Dbmwg-2D00&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsu= hr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhI= U_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DKeaXc8LVnNgEv_I7Y= ekJCcJ01m65YpHlumDGS6SlcXs&e=3D Thanks Sarah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:35:13 -0700 From: Sarah B To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: [bmwg] 2nd WGLC for https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.or= g_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjB= XeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWq= ezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8IvbmIu4Ro0z6= bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hello, I'd sent this first wGLC for draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest before Christmas, an= d while I gave it a longer period of time for comments, we've received none= . So, I'd like to send it through WGLC again, ending Tuesday, April 30. Ple= ase share your comments and feedback here on the list. Thanks Sarah > On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B wrote: >=20 > Hi BMWG, > A quick clarification. The WGLC is for the Internet-Draft describing a b= enchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT BGP Basic Convergence. M= y apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft link below is incorrect = as well; data tracker no longer references full links with versions, so ple= ase use: >=20 > =09 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf. > org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh= 0 > UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw& > m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8Ivbm= I > u4Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D > .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbf= h > 0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw > &m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8Ivb= m > Iu4Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D> >=20 > And note that the current version as of this email/time of writing is -0= 1. >=20 > Thanks, > Sarah >=20 >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B > wrote: >>=20 >> Hello BMWG, >> =09 >> A Working Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft describi= ng BGP Basic convergence: >>=20 >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf >> .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest-2D01&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuh= r >> 6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-Q >> hIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DnfeWPM8c7Bow= E >> lTvG5Xekus4MecFwvNP6wCSpgInIHw&e=3D >> > f.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest-2D01&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsu= h >> r6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB- >> QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DnfeWPM8c7Bo= w >> ElTvG5Xekus4MecFwvNP6wCSpgInIHw&e=3D> >>=20 >> will be open for 6 weeks from today, and close on January 18, 2019. This= is a bit longer of a WGLC window, but accommodates the end of year interru= ptions some members might experience. Please weigh in on whether or not yo= u feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directors for c= onsideration to progressing as an Informational RFC. Send your comments to = this list. Your timely and prompt review and feedback is greatly appreciate= d! >>=20 >> Kind regards, >> Sarah/Al >> BMWG co-chairs >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwg mailing list >> bmwg@ietf.org >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mai >> lman_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXc= W >> zoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEm= a >> VY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-A >> jiyE&e=3D >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mail > man_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWz= o > CI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY= 8 > pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-AjiyE > &e=3D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:38:23 -0700 From: Sarah B To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bmwg] 2nd WGLC for https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.or= g_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjB= XeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWq= ezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8IvbmIu4Ro0z6= bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hi, (with my participant hat on) =09 Authors, I have a concern with this draft moving forward, in light of 2 ot= her proposals coming in. It's not that I object to the content of the draft= per se, but rather, I think some consolidation could happen. First, it appears that you, the authors, have a second, separate draft, co= vering Multicast. I'm wondering if that can fit in here. Also, a few folks = from AT&T submitted what appears to be a complementary (to this one) draft = that makes me think that we'd be better served with consolidation here. I'd= like to ask both the authors of this draft, and Al/Jim, to discuss and see= if unification makes sense. Thanks Sarah (with participant hat on!!) > On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Sarah B wrote: >=20 > Hello, > I'd sent this first wGLC for draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest before Christmas, = and while I gave it a longer period of time for comments, we've received no= ne. So, I'd like to send it through WGLC again, ending Tuesday, April 30. P= lease share your comments and feedback here on the list. >=20 > Thanks > Sarah >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Sarah B > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi BMWG, >> A quick clarification. The WGLC is for the Internet-Draft describing a = benchmarking methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN, NOT BGP Basic Convergence. = My apologies for the incorrect cut/paste. The draft link below is incorrect= as well; data tracker no longer references full links with versions, so pl= ease use: >>=20 >> =09 >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf >> .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scb= f >> h0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_S >> rw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR8= I >> vbmIu4Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D >> > f.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Sc= b >> fh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_ >> Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DbV9x2nxv2laPCxWR= 8 >> IvbmIu4Ro0z6bcKG3MmQRJXgRw&e=3D> >>=20 >> And note that the current version as of this email/time of writing is -= 01. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Sarah >>=20 >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Sarah B > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hello BMWG, >>> =09 >>> A Working Group Last Call (WGLC) period for the Internet-Draft describ= ing BGP Basic convergence: >>>=20 >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.iet >>> f.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest-2D01&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rs= u >>> hr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRew >>> B-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DnfeWPM8c= 7 >>> BowElTvG5Xekus4MecFwvNP6wCSpgInIHw&e=3D >>> >> tf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbmwg-2Devpntest-2D01&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63r= s >>> uhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRe >>> wB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DnfeWPM8= c >>> 7BowElTvG5Xekus4MecFwvNP6wCSpgInIHw&e=3D> >>>=20 >>> will be open for 6 weeks from today, and close on January 18, 2019. Thi= s is a bit longer of a WGLC window, but accommodates the end of year interr= uptions some members might experience. Please weigh in on whether or not y= ou feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directors for = consideration to progressing as an Informational RFC. Send your comments to= this list. Your timely and prompt review and feedback is greatly appreciat= ed! >>>=20 >>> Kind regards, >>> Sarah/Al >>> BMWG co-chairs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bmwg mailing list >>> bmwg@ietf.org =20 >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_ma >>> ilman_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDT= X >>> cWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7= y >>> EmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3 >>> O_-AjiyE&e=3D >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> bmwg mailing list >> bmwg@ietf.org >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mai >> lman_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXc= W >> zoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEm= a >> VY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-A >> jiyE&e=3D >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mail > man_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWz= o > CI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY= 8 > pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-AjiyE > &e=3D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:15:23 -0700 From: Sarah Banks To: bmwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bmwg] Call for Adoption: Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device Performance Message-ID: <11406412-B50F-4880-9B4E-A9294D0B503E@encrypted.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" Hello BMWG, As co-chair, I?m calling Consensus on the call for WG adoption for the B2B = Frame draft. Thanks to the author (my co-chair!) and everyone else who indicated support= both on the list, and in the previous IETF sessions. The original call for= adoption ended at IETF104, and there was an action item for me to call con= sensus on list, which this email completes. I would expect to see the draft replaced with draft-ietf- shortly, an= d we?ll continue our discussions on list and most likely Montreal. Please r= ead the draft, and submit your feedback/questions/comments to bmwg@ietf.org= .=20 Kind regards, Sarah BMWG Co-Chair =20 > On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Sarah B wrote: >=20 > Hello BMWG, > Another presentation of the NG Firewall draft at IETF103 in Bangkok was = well received. Thank you for your reviews and feedback. The draft can be fo= und here: > =09 > =09 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf. > org_doc_draft-2Dbalarajah-2Dbmwg-2Dngfw-2Dperformance_&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAk= Y > uh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-Ad > kLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY8pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DPjSU9= G > Py-eqeCGqlk2T8gtfAXQno5wxB_6huAAVgKPI&e=3D > =09 > There has been a lot of discussion, interest, review, and comments on th= e draft, and I'd like to call for adoption of this draft by the WG. Please = reply to this email before December 21, 2018 and indicate: >=20 > (1) whether you support addition of the following milestone to=20 > the BMWG charter: >=20 > date TBD: Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device=20 > Performance >=20 >=20 > (2) whether you support the adoption of > draft-balarajah-bmwg-ngfw-performance-05 >=20 > as the basis document for this milestone >=20 > (3) whether you commit to reviewing the WG document if adopted >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks for your consideration of the draft! >=20 > Kind regards, > Sarah > bmwg co-chair > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mail > man_listinfo_bmwg&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWz= o > CI&r=3D6467957JFOdmNjfKujkufIeAE-AdkLRewB-QhIU_Srw&m=3DWqezXoMX37n7yEmaVY= 8 > pe5Fnt2TybgTxK5uHg2oQzEA&s=3DIddAo-k1s8K5UPuVP-_Mm3KDrTJg4AwAYS3O_-AjiyE > &e=3D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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