From hubmib-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 03 13:33:44 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FFF60-0001wL-DF; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:33:44 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FFF5z-0001wG-Hv for hubmib@ietf.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:33:43 -0500 Received: from nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FFF5v-0008GK-8A for hubmib@ietf.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:33:43 -0500 Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (tiere.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k23ISAaS011355 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:28:11 -0500 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id k23IUXhj027220 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:30:33 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:33:37 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Real show Thread-Index: AcY+8PwyCfgKji2eQMSCYETMgloqPgAAAAG4 From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: "hubmib" X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 82c9bddb247d9ba4471160a9a865a5f3 Subject: [Hubmib] Out of Office AutoReply: Real show X-BeenThere: hubmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Ethernet Interfaces an Hub MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2144771020==" Errors-To: hubmib-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2144771020== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C63EF0.FC374D3E" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63EF0.FC374D3E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am out-of-office traveling for business purposes until March 11. If = you need to contact me urgently, please leave a message at my office = voice mail. Regards, Dan Regards, Dan ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63EF0.FC374D3E Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Out of Office AutoReply: Real show

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This draft is a work item of the Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : Definitions and Managed Objects for OAM Functions on Ethernet Like Interfaces Author(s) : M. Squire Filename : draft-ietf-hubmib-efm-mib-04.txt Pages : 57 Date : 2006-3-8 This document defines objects for managing Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) capabilities on Ethernet like interfaces conformant to the Ethernet OAM functionality defined in [802.3ah]. The Ethernet OAM functionality is complementary to SNMP management in that it is focused on a small set of link-specific functions for directly connected Ethernet interfaces. This document defines objects for controlling those link OAM functions, and for providing results and status of the OAM functions to management entities. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C64938.2D83B9CE-- --===============1519856052== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Hubmib mailing list Hubmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hubmib --===============1519856052==-- From hubmib-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 23 02:14:00 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FMK19-0001Ti-QM; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:13:59 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FMK18-0001Td-He for hubmib@ietf.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:13:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.passave.com ([212.25.93.227] helo=passave.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FMK16-0003Mj-Sn for hubmib@ietf.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:13:58 -0500 Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mailgw (envelope-from lior.khermosh@passave.com) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2006 09:15:08 -0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:16:48 +0200 Message-ID: <63DC5157D93D3046B78E8DDD9130C4E02DB5C0@passmail> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Question about EPON mib Thread-Index: AcZNlgMe4PbHZtNKRga+GsSkf6WoDwAYM2Iw From: "Lior Khermosh" To: "Liudong" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5d7a7e767f20255fce80fa0b77fb2433 Cc: Hub MIB Subject: [Hubmib] RE: Question about EPON mib X-BeenThere: hubmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Ethernet Interfaces an Hub MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: hubmib-bounces@ietf.org Dear Mr. LiuDong, Thanks for the question. I believe that as the EPON MIB is an interface MIB, the relation to the Entity MIB is defined through the relation to the interface MIB, and it is deduced in a similar manner. The OLT has an EPON interface with N+1 virtual interfaces, one for each one of the ONUs and one for the broadcast link. Each one has a dedicated ifIndex and considered for the entity MIB as a separate interface. These ports at the OLT are probably referred as separate logical entities for the entity MIB same like bridge ports.=20 The relation of the entity MIB to the interfaces MIB is defined in RFC4133 section 2.6" " 2.6. Relationship to the Interfaces MIB The Entity MIB contains a mapping table identifying physical components that have 'external values' (e.g., ifIndex) associated with them within a given naming scope. This table can be used to identify the physical location of each interface in the ifTable (RFC 2863 [RFC2863]). Because ifIndex values in different contexts are not related to one another, the interface to physical component associations are relative to the same logical entity within the agent. The Entity MIB also contains 'entPhysicalName' and 'entPhysicalAlias' objects, which approximate the semantics of the 'ifName' and 'ifAlias' objects (respectively) from the Interfaces MIB [RFC2863], for all types of physical components. " The entAliasMappingTable defines the mapping and the entAliasMappingIdentifier is mapped to the ifIndex as can be seen in the examples in the entity document.=20 Generally the layering model and the EPON MIB partition are described in section 1.3 of the draft document (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-efm-epon-mib-04.t xt) and an example is also provided in that section. >> EPON is a point-to-multipoint system which include one OLT and a number of ONU, one OLT includes multi PON interface=20 >> which connected with multi ONU PON interface. Although the physical model of the EPON is a point to multipoint model the logical model is N point to point ports, like a bridge. The point to point emulation defined in clause 65 of the IEEE802.3ah defines the point to point emulation layer which provides N (+1 for the broadcast) virtual links. >From management perspective each virtual link is modeled as a physical interface and has a separate ifIndex. More details can be found in the document itself, If there are more specific items needed clarifications I would be happy to answer. Hope it was clear enough. Best regards, Lior -----Original Message----- From: Liudong [mailto:liudong@gwtt.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:49 AM To: Lior Khermosh Subject: Question about EPON mib Hello Mr. lior.khermosh, What's the relationship between EPON mib and Entity Mib(RFC4133)? How to describe such relationship that one physical OLT PON interface connects to multiple physical ONU PON interface? EPON is a point-to-multipoint system which include one OLT and a number of ONU, one OLT includes multi PON interface which connected with multi ONU PON interface. It puzzles me how to describe such complex relationship using MIBs. Could you give me an example about implemention of EPON mib? Thanks a lot! =20 =20 -- Best regards,=20 LiuDong mailto: liudong@gwtt.com ********************************************************** Liu Dong =20 GW Technologies Co., Ltd =20 No.38, Shangdi Xinxi Chanye Jidi Xilu, =20 Haidian District, Beijing 100085, P.R.China =20 =20 TEL(O): +86-10-6296 1177 ext. 673=20 PHS: +86-10-86206882 =20 FAX(O): +86-10-8289 9881 =20 E-mail: liudong@gwtt.com =20 http://www.gwtt.com =20 ********************************************************** ************************************************************************ This message contains information which may be proprietary, confidential and privileged. The information transmitted is intended only for the addressee. 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If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. ************************************************************************ _______________________________________________ Hubmib mailing list Hubmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hubmib From hubmib-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 30 03:26:58 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FOsUW-0005RF-Fh; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:26:52 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FOsUV-0005R0-0E for hubmib@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:26:51 -0500 Received: from co300216-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.13.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FOsUT-0007e7-JE for hubmib@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:26:50 -0500 Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (h198-152-13-100.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by co300216-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k2U8PZat012934 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:25:35 -0500 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id k2U8AZnn019356 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:10:36 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:26:43 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: WG Status Thread-Index: AcZT06w5rLlOuj4PRIOy3H77sI9Q2g== From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 36b1f8810cb91289d885dc8ab4fc8172 Cc: "Wijnen, Bert \(Bert\)" , david.kessens@nokia.com Subject: [Hubmib] WG Status X-BeenThere: hubmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Ethernet Interfaces an Hub MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0371273412==" Errors-To: hubmib-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0371273412== content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C653D3.ACF1B998" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C653D3.ACF1B998 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 As you probably know, Bert Wijnen retired from the position of Operations and Management Area Director. Bert was for all the duration of his tenure the Area Advisor for the WG, and we are expressing many thanks for his guidance and expert advice during all this period.=20 =20 David Kessens is replacing Bert as Area Advisor for the Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG. Welcome to David for what we hope will be a very short period in which we aim to wrap-up the current work and close successfully the Working Group.=20 =20 After discussions with Bert and David we decided that I will continue for a short time to run the WG as a chair in parallel with my new AD responsibilities, with the goal of finishing the current work. I suggest that this situation should not last more than three months, and I hope that before Montreal we shall be in the situation to finish the work that was chartered.=20 =20 Comments and suggestions to make things happen better and faster are welcome.=20 =20 The list of documents and status: =20 In AD Evaluation, the new submissions waiting for second review and confirmation of changes from David Perkins: =20 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-efm-mib-04.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-efm-epon-mib-04.tx t =20 In WGLC, editor (Ed Beili) must submit new revisions for final WGLC: =20 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-efm-cu-mib-04.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-rfc3636bis-02.txt =20 Dan =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C653D3.ACF1B998 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
As you = probably=20 know, Bert Wijnen retired from the position of Operations and Management = Area=20 Director. Bert was for all the duration of his tenure the Area Advisor = for the=20 WG, and we are expressing many thanks for his guidance and expert advice = during=20 all this period.
 
David = Kessens is=20 replacing Bert as Area Advisor for the Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB = WG.=20 Welcome to David for what we hope will be a very short period in which = we aim to=20 wrap-up the current work and close successfully the Working Group.=20
 
After = discussions=20 with Bert and David we decided that I will continue for a short time to = run the=20 WG as a chair in parallel with my new AD responsibilities, with the goal = of=20 finishing the current work. I suggest that = this situation should not=20 last more than three months, and I hope that before Montreal we shall be = in the=20 situation to finish the work that was chartered.
 
Comments and=20 suggestions to make things happen better and faster are welcome.=20
 
The = list of=20 documents and status:
 
In AD = Evaluation,=20 the new submissions waiting for second review and confirmation of = changes from=20 David Perkins:
 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-efm-mib-04.txt=
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-efm-epon-= mib-04.txt
 
In = WGLC, editor (Ed=20 Beili) must submit new revisions for final WGLC:
 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-efm-cu-mib-= 04.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-rfc3636bis-= 02.txt
 
Dan
 
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