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From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Thu Apr 1 06:37:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E7B3A67DF for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.469 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.469 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4FfcRQ1JIM0F for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7F23A676A for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA28037; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:38:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811993B; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:38:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3667D80E4B; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:38:07 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA68580DDF for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:38:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56957CC05E; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:38:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27669-01; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:38:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A941D7CC059 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:38:05 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAJc+tEtFGcQc/2dsb2JhbACcLqxIiFuFAQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,348,1267423200"; d="scan'208";a="39588868" Received: from permutation-city.suchdamage.org (HELO mail.suchdamage.org) ([69.25.196.28]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2010 08:38:05 -0500 Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.suchdamage.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A7E2202D2; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id 31A9141EA; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Hartman To: Simo Sorce References: <201003242118.o2OLIBLW010389@outgoing.mit.edu> <4BAA9763.5060806@mnt.se> <1269472974.7493.547.camel@ray> <75A36D34-D404-4FC0-AE73-D474BEF2ECB5@apple.com> <20100325144721.40a34c08@willson.li.ssimo.org> <4BABECFD.2000501@mnt.se> <1269633254.5165.74.camel@ray> <4BB34B12.5020504@mnt.se> <1270053822.23874.152.camel@ray> <20100331155359.6f01eb93@willson.li.ssimo.org> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:37:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20100331155359.6f01eb93@willson.li.ssimo.org> (Simo Sorce's message of "Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:53:59 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9) Emacs/22.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: "ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov" , Sam Hartman , "jhutz@cmu.edu" Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] kdc-model: Separation of KeySets X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov My opinion in ranked order: 1) Greg's revisions 2) current text 3) Simo's revisions. 4) None of the above Greg's text does a better job of handling the backup issue by hinting that one of the important ways of controlling authorization to backups is actually separation of some kind. Simo's text implies to me at least that you'd just have some sort of ACL in your backup system, where as Greg's text implies you might encrypt under different keys or use separate media. However I think it is important to realize that there is a wide variety in what people will do. Most people will just backup their keys along side everything else; for many environments that's fine. We're simply trying to facilitate more secure deployments being possible for those who need them. _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Thu Apr 1 06:50:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A823A6829 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:50:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.818 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.818 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0hAy90lx2mMi for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D311C3A680D for ; 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Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:50:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8B97CC066 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:50:42 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4BABtCtEsSCRkPnGdsb2JhbACbPRUBAQEBAQgLCAkRHAasU4hbhQEEhiU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,348,1267423200"; d="scan'208";a="39589719" Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-4.mit.edu ([18.9.25.15]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2010 08:50:41 -0500 X-AuditID: 1209190f-b7b20ae000003f85-16-4bb4a4b17872 Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (MAILHUB-AUTH-4.MIT.EDU [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-4.mit.edu (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 50.52.16261.1B4A4BB4; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-EXCHANGE-2.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.16]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id o31DofjI009278 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:50:41 -0400 Received: from oc11exedge1.exchange.mit.edu (OC11EXEDGE1.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.9.3.17]) ) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id o31DoeRB009426 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:50:41 -0400 Received: from oc11exhub1.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.3.11) by oc11exedge1.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.3.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.393.1; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:50:23 -0400 Received: from EXPO10.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.15]) by oc11exhub1.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.3.11]) with mapi; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:50:39 -0400 From: Thomas Hardjono To: "ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov" Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:50:37 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Ietf-krb-wg] kdc-model: Separation of KeySets Thread-Index: AcrRFLA8BNl1fTZ5RRSIyi1IlnFduAAjTtjA Message-ID: References: <201003242118.o2OLIBLW010389@outgoing.mit.edu> <4BAA9763.5060806@mnt.se> <1269472974.7493.547.camel@ray> <75A36D34-D404-4FC0-AE73-D474BEF2ECB5@apple.com> <20100325144721.40a34c08@willson.li.ssimo.org> <4BABECFD.2000501@mnt.se> <1269633254.5165.74.camel@ray> <4BB34B12.5020504@mnt.se> <1270053822.23874.152.camel@ray> <91A0ACC7-0D84-4721-9657-566FBEDCFB36@jpl.nasa.gov> <8FD8D0A026C0C6F6AC81A565@minbar.fac.cs.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <8FD8D0A026C0C6F6AC81A565@minbar.fac.cs.cmu.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] kdc-model: Separation of KeySets X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [mailto:ietf-krb-wg- > bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hutzelman > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:06 PM > To: Henry B. Hotz; Greg Hudson > Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov; Sam Hartman; jhutz@cmu.edu > Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] kdc-model: Separation of KeySets > > --On Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:04:42 AM -0700 "Henry B. Hotz" > wrote: > > > > > On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Greg Hudson wrote: > > > >> I feel a little weird saying "MUST facilitate," but the concept being > >> expressed here is a little vague. > > > > > > MUST restrict (protect?) access to KeySet data. > > > > MAY allow less restrictive access to other data. > > We're getting ahead of ourselves here. This is a data model document, not > a schema document. Implementations of this document are schemas, and the > goal was to REQUIRE schemas to separate KeySet and other data sufficiently > well that an implementation of the schema would give the administrator the > flexibility to do so operationally. I think we've been trying to avoid, in > this document, defining requirements for implementations of schemas based > on it. I'm following this thread and have to agree with Jeff. This is an Information Model document. Why are we talking about key protection, access control, etc. etc. in this doc? /thomas/ _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Fri Apr 2 00:07:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4816E3A6885 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:07:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -25.538 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-25.538 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_PL=1.135, HOST_EQ_PL=1.95, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02=0.383, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_3=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_FROM_DRUGS=1.666, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, URI_HEX=0.368, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gbHsYNfgO4oH for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host-89-228-248-59.olsztyn.mm.pl (host-89-228-248-59.olsztyn.mm.pl [89.228.248.59]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E2A3A6870 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:07:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "#1 VIAGRA Shop" To: krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: Yo, krb-wg-archive, get 81% OFF Today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20100402070749.F2E2A3A6870@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Newsletter
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From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Mon Apr 5 03:44:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245C83A6902 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qei46vPbCnSP for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5A33A68FC for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE3134; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BC32C; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:44:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CC480E4C; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:44:16 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8E480E29 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:44:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535E57CC066; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:44:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27806-03; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:44:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F937CC05A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:44:13 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AosFAJNbuUvBCvxC/2dsb2JhbACPVIt1cbIrhQcE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,365,1267423200"; d="scan'208";a="39714137" Received: from backup-server.nordu.net ([193.10.252.66]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 05 Apr 2010 05:44:13 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.11] (ua-83-227-179-169.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [83.227.179.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by backup-server.nordu.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o35Ai92H012462 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:44:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB9BEF8.2010205@mnt.se> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:44:08 +0200 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9pre) Gecko/20100217 Lightning/1.0b1 Shredder/3.0.3pre ThunderBrowse/3.2.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov References: <201003242118.o2OLIBLW010389@outgoing.mit.edu> <4BAA9763.5060806@mnt.se> <1269472974.7493.547.camel@ray> <75A36D34-D404-4FC0-AE73-D474BEF2ECB5@apple.com> <20100325144721.40a34c08@willson.li.ssimo.org> <4BABECFD.2000501@mnt.se> <1269633254.5165.74.camel@ray> <4BB34B12.5020504@mnt.se> <1270053822.23874.152.camel@ray> <20100331155359.6f01eb93@willson.li.ssimo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 193.10.252.66 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] kdc-model: Separation of KeySets X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov On 04/01/2010 03:37 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: > My opinion in ranked order: > > 1) Greg's revisions > 2) current text > 3) Simo's revisions. > 4) None of the above > > Greg's text does a better job of handling the backup issue by hinting > that one of the important ways of controlling authorization to backups > is actually separation of some kind. Simo's text implies to me at least > that you'd just have some sort of ACL in your backup system, where as > Greg's text implies you might encrypt under different keys or use > separate media. > > However I think it is important to realize that there is a wide variety > in what people will do. Most people will just backup their keys along > side everything else; for many environments that's fine. We're simply > trying to facilitate more secure deployments being possible for those > who need them. I agree with Sam. I like Gregs revision. I'm in favor of adopting that version. Cheers Leif _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Mon Apr 5 22:06:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAD63A6AA0 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:06:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.061 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.061 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.938, BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8kitmjq66+fb for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790D03A6A9F for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8B04D; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBA352; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF4F80E4D; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62BC80E4C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id AF7A62D; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEB631 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F31A2D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0F37CC067; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26385-01; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E5A7CC066 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:06:33 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAJpeuktuBL2G/2dsb2JhbACbTHK4EIUHBIMiiw0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,370,1267423200"; d="scan'208";a="39755836" Received: from z189134.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp (HELO mama.tanu.org) ([110.4.189.134]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2010 00:06:32 -0500 Received: from shoichi.tanu.org (120.145.221.202.bf.2iij.net [202.221.145.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mama.tanu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A68616BB4; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:06:31 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4BBAC174.9060901@tanu.org> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:07:00 +0900 From: Shoichi Sakane User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey Hutzelman References: <30D65FE1A75FC35DC4C6387A@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov, dhcwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Jeff, Thank you for your comments. That is very valuable for me, especially language problem. On 03/27/2010 08:17 PM, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: > Following are my comments from my review of > draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08: > Note that this document suggests a number of changes, many of which are > substantive rather than editorial. Love's example notwithstanding, you > should not make any of these changes until the WGLC period expires and > a determination has been made, by Larry or myself, as to whether it is > appropriate to make each change. O.K. I will wait for your decision. Before that, I want to ask some questions. There are 3 items that we need a decision. 1-1: Expand "DHCP" Jeff> Expand "DHCP" Shoichi> I am not sure whether it is better that the Kerberos option for both DHCPv4 and DHCPv6 are described in a single document. Yes, I understand most description including the introduction, the behavior of client and server, are same. But, the format of the payload is different. I would like to ask to member of the group what we can do. 1-2: prividing an IPv4 address. section 2.2 (KDC Sub-Option) Jeff> > It is not recommended to provide an IPv4 address. Since most Kerberos deployments are currently IPv4-only, I'm not convinced this advice is appropriate. If we believe as a WG that this is appropriate, then the phrase "not recommended" should be elevated to RFC2119 requirements language (i.e. uppercase), and this requirement should be stated separately, rather than as an aside to the description of the sub-option length. Shoichi> If my understanding is correct, it was the consensus of the krb-wg meeting in Stockholm. However, I agree that currently most KDC is IPv4-based. I am fine that the kerberos option for DHCPv6 can provide any host's information as well as IPv4 address. I would like to ask to member of the group what we should do. 1-3: address family: KDC address (variable) Jeff> There seems to be no explicit indication of the family of an address; instead, the recipient is expected to infer it from the address length. This seems brittle, as it assumes no one will wish to run Kerberos on a network protocol with 128-bit addresses other than IPv6, or on a protocol with 32-bit addresses other than IPv4. I suggest including an explicit address family, perhaps drawn from the existing Address Family registry: http://www.iana.org/assignments/address-family-numbers/address-family-numbers.xhtml Shoichi> I wanted such suggestion. I will add a field of the address family. When the field is added, the sub-option will have a 3-octet reserved field since the family number is 16-bit long. Do we accept it ? To avoid it, another option would be that we can shorten the number to 8-bit from 16-bit. But, it is backward. When we add the field of an address family as is, the message structure will be: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | SUB_OPTION_KDC | sub-opt-len | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Priority | Weight | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Transport Type| Reserved | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Address Family | Port Number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ : : : KDC address (variable) : : : +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Mon Apr 5 22:11:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2663A6AA2 for ; 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charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Jeff, One question, > > Section 3 (Client Operation): > > The client MAY include the > > DHCPv6 option number of the Kerberos option in the Option Request > > Option defined in section 22.7 of RFC 3315 [RFC3315] in the > > Information-request message. > Also, we should probably mention that it is also appropriate for a > client to use a Kerberos option contained in a previous DHCPv6 > response. I don't understand why the client needs to use a Kerberos option contained in a previous DHCPv6 response ? Maybe, I don't share your assumption. Could you explain me what is your scenario ? === Shoichi Sakane _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Tue Apr 6 05:10:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF693A691B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 05:10:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.854 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.854 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.744, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jaoO+qCmEOru for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 05:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F263A688A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 05:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7860B2F; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7820539; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194742CC071; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA1380E29 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id 8ECFC2D; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A792F for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832512D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBF77CC06C; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22202-07; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBCC7CC05D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:10:21 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AioBAArBukuAAtnFkWdsb2JhbACPUnmKfxUBAQEBCQsKBxEFHa93iFyFCQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,371,1267423200"; d="scan'208";a="39768297" Received: from smtp02.srv.cs.cmu.edu ([128.2.217.197]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2010 07:10:20 -0500 Received: from [108.111.80.183] (108-111-80-183.pools.spcsdns.net [108.111.80.183] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp02.srv.cs.cmu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o36CABlX017231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeffrey Hutzelman" Date: 06 Apr 2010 08:10:00 -0400 To: X-Mailer: ChatterEmail+ for Treo 6xx/700p (3.0.18) Message-ID: <3353386219.6585858@smtp.srv.cs.cmu.edu> X-Scanned-By: mimedefang-cmuscs on 128.2.217.197 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov, dhcwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov >1-1: Expand "DHCP" > > Jeff> > Expand "DHCP" > > Shoichi> > I am not sure whether it is better that the Kerberos option for both DHCPv4 > and DHCPv6 are described in a single document. Yes, I understand most > description including the introduction, the behavior of client and server, > are same. But, the format of the payload is different. > I would like to ask to member of the group what we can do. You misunderstand. I'm talking about an editorial change, not a substantive one. Acronyms such as "DHCP" must be fully expanded on first use, so that the document is readable to readers unfamiliar with the abbreviations. So, the first time you mention DHCP, write "Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP)" instead of just "DHCP". >1-2: prividing an IPv4 address. section 2.2 (KDC Sub-Option) > > Jeff> > > It is not recommended to provide an IPv4 address. > > Since most Kerberos deployments are currently IPv4-only, I'm not > convinced this advice is appropriate. If we believe as a WG that > this is appropriate, then the phrase "not recommended" should be > elevated to RFC2119 requirements language (i.e. uppercase), and > this requirement should be stated separately, rather than as an > aside to the description of the sub-option length. > > Shoichi> > If my understanding is correct, it was the consensus of the krb-wg > meeting in Stockholm. I will have to look into this. > I wanted such suggestion. I will add a field of the address family. > When the field is added, the sub-option will have a 3-octet reserved > field since the family number is 16-bit long. Do we accept it ? That doesn't have to be the case. You can reorder the fields so that all of the 16-bit fields are together: priority, weight, AF, port, then the 8-bit transport type, then the variable-sized addresses. Or, you could give up on the idea that bits on the wire need to be word-aligned; I'm not sure what DHC thinks of that. > To avoid it, another option would be that we can shorten the number > to 8-bit from 16-bit. But, it is backward. If you do that, it's too small for the size of the registry. --Jeff _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Tue Apr 6 11:33:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171953A69DD for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:33:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qC6fUkIkmRdF for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F8928C135 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9BD58; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9615B3F; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7681F80E43; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5071E80E31 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id 43DF339; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC153F for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D5C39 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F227CC060; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16874-10; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053197CC05A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:24:32 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvEAAOMYu0uAAtnGkWdsb2JhbACbOhUBAQEBCQsKBxEFHbJAiFyFCQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,373,1267423200"; d="scan'208";a="39794515" Received: from smtp03.srv.cs.cmu.edu ([128.2.217.198]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2010 13:24:29 -0500 Received: from LYSITHEA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU (LYSITHEA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.172.62]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp03.srv.cs.cmu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o36IOSPr003878 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:24:28 -0400 From: Jeffrey Hutzelman To: Shoichi Sakane Message-ID: <4E72845EA2D4DED94D7E9036@lysithea.fac.cs.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <4BBAC26F.8010507@tanu.org> References: <30D65FE1A75FC35DC4C6387A@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> <4BBAC26F.8010507@tanu.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Scanned-By: mimedefang-cmuscs on 128.2.217.198 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov, jhutz@cmu.edu, dhcwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] [dhcwg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov --On Tuesday, April 06, 2010 02:11:11 PM +0900 Shoichi Sakane wrote: > Jeff, > > One question, > >> > Section 3 (Client Operation): > >> > The client MAY include the >> > DHCPv6 option number of the Kerberos option in the Option Request >> > Option defined in section 22.7 of RFC 3315 [RFC3315] in the >> > Information-request message. > >> Also, we should probably mention that it is also appropriate for a >> client to use a Kerberos option contained in a previous DHCPv6 >> response. > > I don't understand why the client needs to use a Kerberos option > contained in a previous DHCPv6 response ? Maybe, I don't share your > assumption. Could you explain me what is your scenario ? 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From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Wed Apr 7 01:37:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127A63A682D for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:37:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.207 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.207 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.392, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KY5mqK8wBv1M for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B0A3A6826 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C15E35; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:37:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F1732; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:37:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8017A2CC07B; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:37:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FC72CC078 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:36:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id 908EC2F; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:36:58 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C00D32 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:36:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA6F2F for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:36:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C1F7CC06B; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:36:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07304-04; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:36:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACBC7CC05C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:36:58 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAILhu0tuBL2G/2dsb2JhbACbO3K5f4UJBIMiixU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,377,1267423200"; d="scan'208";a="39822149" Received: from z189134.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp (HELO mama.tanu.org) ([110.4.189.134]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2010 03:36:56 -0500 Received: from shoichi.tanu.org (120.145.221.202.bf.2iij.net [202.221.145.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mama.tanu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7308216B4A; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:36:55 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4BBC4445.4040209@tanu.org> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:37:25 +0900 From: Shoichi Sakane User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey Hutzelman References: <3353386219.6585858@smtp.srv.cs.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3353386219.6585858@smtp.srv.cs.cmu.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov, dhcwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Jeff, On 04/06/2010 09:10 PM, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: >> 1-1: Expand "DHCP" >> >> Jeff> >> Expand "DHCP" >> >> Shoichi> >> I am not sure whether it is better that the Kerberos option for both DHCPv4 >> and DHCPv6 are described in a single document. Yes, I understand most >> description including the introduction, the behavior of client and server, >> are same. But, the format of the payload is different. >> I would like to ask to member of the group what we can do. > > You misunderstand. I'm talking about an editorial change, not a substantive one. Acronyms such as "DHCP" must be fully expanded on first use, so that the document is readable to readers unfamiliar with the abbreviations. So, the first time you mention DHCP, write "Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP)" instead of just "DHCP". Thanks for the clarification. All right. I will fix it. >> I wanted such suggestion. I will add a field of the address family. >> When the field is added, the sub-option will have a 3-octet reserved >> field since the family number is 16-bit long. Do we accept it ? I found a definition in section 6 of RFC 3315: 6. Client/Server Message Formats Options are stored serially in the options field, with no padding between the options. Options are byte-aligned but are not aligned in any other way such as on 2 or 4 byte boundaries. So, I am going to take your suggestion. The message format will be: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | SUB_OPTION_KDC | sub-opt-len | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Priority | Weight | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Address Family | Port Number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Transport Type| | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ + : KDC address (variable) : : : +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Shoichi Sakane _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Wed Apr 7 06:15:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E279B3A6908 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:15:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.371 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.371 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.228, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CIDk3h5XC7sm for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69F83A6899 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AD839; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:15:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB324D; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:15:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7352CC071; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:15:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEE380E29 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:15:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F757CC066; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:15:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26276-05; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:15:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id D702A7CC05C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:15:00 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiEBAPYhvEtAqmIgjmdsb2JhbACPVAEBi2kVAQEBAQkLEQ8HHboRgneCEgSDJA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,378,1267423200"; d="txt'208?scan'208,208";a="39832673" Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2010 08:15:00 -0500 Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 313A73A6892; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:15:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100407131502.313A73A6892@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:15:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Subject: [Ietf-krb-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-krb-wg-otp-preauth-12.txt X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov I read draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08. Two comments remained after filtering the points already noted by Jeff. > Intended Status: Informational The allocation policy for DHCPv6 option codes requires Standards Action. Should this I-D be moved onto the standards track to have OPTION_KRB allocated? > 6. 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My mail From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Thu Apr 8 19:32:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521943A6ABC for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:32:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.899, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_34=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DBWS+sX4TbuM for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A843A69E4 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC716B9; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F5EBA; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E1380E43; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD2980E31 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id 7805FB3; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73316B8 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E42B3 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC5B7CC05C; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02026-01; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338BA7CC056 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:32:31 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAPcuvktuBL2G/2dsb2JhbACbO3K6eIUJBIMi X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,174,1270443600"; d="scan'208";a="39935742" Received: from z189134.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp (HELO mama.tanu.org) ([110.4.189.134]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 21:32:29 -0500 Received: from shoichi.tanu.org (120.145.221.202.bf.2iij.net [202.221.145.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mama.tanu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6930916B49; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:32:29 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4BBE91DD.1080106@tanu.org> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:33:01 +0900 From: Shoichi Sakane User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KAMADA Ken'ichi References: <30D65FE1A75FC35DC4C6387A@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> <20100408172823PR%kamada@nanohz.org> In-Reply-To: <20100408172823PR%kamada@nanohz.org> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov, dhcwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Ken'ichi, >> Intended Status: Informational > The allocation policy for DHCPv6 option codes > requires > Standards Action. Should this I-D be moved onto the standards track > to have OPTION_KRB allocated? Thanks for pointing it out. Personally, I think this document should be the standard track. I would like to ask the chairs and member. >> 6. IANA Considerations > > I would recommend consulting RFC 5226 for writing IANA Considerations. > As already pointed out, we need to create "realm-name Flags" and > "Service Type (to be renamed)" registries as well and to define > allocation policies for new registries. I agree with suggestions from Jeff and Ken'ichi. I will add a text to the IANA considerations. I will take "Transport type". 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I'll send out a post-WGLC-version of the model (-08) shortly after the last-call expires and ask the chair to send it to the IESG. Cheers Leif _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Fri Apr 9 02:26:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B323A6AEF for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:26:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.255, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_34=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_LWSHORTT=1.24] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hUE4kJSTehzW for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD213A6A69 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593DDC6; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5217D6; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497E880E43; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D4F80E31 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id 838F3C6; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F425CD for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78338C6 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9EC7CC060; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07817-09; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433937CC059 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:25:37 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEABmPvktuBL2G/2dsb2JhbACbOnK5O4UJBIMi X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,176,1270443600"; d="scan'208";a="39945029" Received: from z189134.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp (HELO mama.tanu.org) ([110.4.189.134]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2010 04:25:36 -0500 Received: from shoichi.tanu.org (120.145.221.202.bf.2iij.net [202.221.145.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mama.tanu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 21C4B16B49; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 18:25:35 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4BBEF2AF.1010105@tanu.org> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:26:07 +0900 From: Shoichi Sakane User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Lemon References: <30D65FE1A75FC35DC4C6387A@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> <20100408172823PR%kamada@nanohz.org> In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: "ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov" , "dhcwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] [dhcwg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Hi Ted, Thanks for these comments. I will make responses to each issue separately. On 04/09/2010 01:29 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:28 PM, KAMADA Ken'ichi wrote: >> The allocation policy for DHCPv6 option codes >> requires >> Standards Action. Should this I-D be moved onto the standards track >> to have OPTION_KRB allocated? Ted @ Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:29:51 -0400> > This may not be necessary. There's been some movement in the > direction of offering IESG approval as an alternative; the process of > making that happen hasn't been completed yet, but we're hoping to > make progress on it in the short term. > As far as standards track goes, I wouldn't argue against doing > this as a standards track document if there's demand. If there is no barrier to deploy this option, I don't care whether this option is the informational or the standard track. I still need comments. Shoichi _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Fri Apr 9 02:28:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2515A3A68B7 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:28:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.465 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5H0ehmZh357v for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E183A68E0 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173A8DA; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0698D0; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A555E80E43; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3737D80E31 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id 29C2FCD; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:19 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DE4D0 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D142CD for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CDD7CC059; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08148-05; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33A47CC056 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:28:18 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEADuQvktuBL2G/2dsb2JhbACbOnK5PYUJBIMi X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,176,1270443600"; d="scan'208";a="39945108" Received: from z189134.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp (HELO mama.tanu.org) ([110.4.189.134]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2010 04:28:17 -0500 Received: from shoichi.tanu.org (120.145.221.202.bf.2iij.net [202.221.145.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mama.tanu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D52C216B49; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 18:28:16 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4BBEF350.50804@tanu.org> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:28:48 +0900 From: Shoichi Sakane User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Lemon References: <30D65FE1A75FC35DC4C6387A@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> <20100408172823PR%kamada@nanohz.org> In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: "ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov" , "dhcwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] [dhcwg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Ted @ Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:29:51 -0400> > Second, you are using bitfields, and you shouldn't. > The flag bits issue is perhaps less of a showstopper, but it's > still generally not done. Despite the fact that it could > potentially waste space, we normally just add bytes to indicate > boolean values. Effectively that's what you're doing here, but > unless you really anticipate future expansion, I'd just specify the > possible values for this field as 0 or 1. We need only one sign for it. So I can accept your suggestion. When we make the sub-option to an option there is another approach. We will have two options and a single container for this purpose. To be more precise: we need Realm Name Sub-Option, and a sign whether this is default or not. So, my idea is to create like Realm Name Option and Default Realm Name Option. The benefit is that the structure of the container for this options could be unified to another option, Client Principal Name Option. === Shoichi Sakane _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Fri Apr 9 02:29:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FBE3A6946 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:29:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qrwpfnlaN3Eo for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6B43A689C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5A0DA; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2093FD0; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4A980E43; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DDD80E31 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id 94516CD; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDF0D0 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891F7CD for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745F27CC05D; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08264-03; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593157CC056 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:22 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEADuQvktuBL2G/2dsb2JhbACbOnK5PYUJBIMi X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,176,1270443600"; d="scan'208";a="39945133" Received: from z189134.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp (HELO mama.tanu.org) ([110.4.189.134]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2010 04:29:20 -0500 Received: from shoichi.tanu.org (120.145.221.202.bf.2iij.net [202.221.145.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mama.tanu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6BA416B49; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 18:29:20 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4BBEF390.3090300@tanu.org> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:29:52 +0900 From: Shoichi Sakane User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Lemon References: <30D65FE1A75FC35DC4C6387A@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> <20100408172823PR%kamada@nanohz.org> In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: "ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov" , "dhcwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] [dhcwg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Ted @ Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:29:51 -0400> > First, you are using suboptions, and you shouldn't. > Regarding the suboption problem, there is no shortage of option > codes in DHCPv6, and suboptions are not part of the DHCPv6 > vernacular. Adding support for suboptions just for Kerberos is a > bad idea. This is easy to fix--just get rid of the Kerberos option, > and make all its suboptions into options. I knew that there was a guideline related in the past. There was only one option for Kerberos in the early stage. But, we had decided to provide several information from the DHCP server for Kerberos. And sometimes a server needs to provide multiple same option. I was not sure that the DHCPv6 is allowed to do that, which means a single DHCP message includes more than one option. So, we decided to create an option and three sub-options. 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Should this I-D be moved onto the standards track > to have OPTION_KRB allocated? This may not be necessary. There's been some movement in the direction of offering IESG approval as an alternative; the process of making that happen hasn't been completed yet, but we're hoping to make progress on it in the short term. As far as standards track goes, I wouldn't argue against doing this as a standards track document if there's demand. My only comments on the document itself are the obvious ones. First, you are using suboptions, and you shouldn't. Second, you are using bitfields, and you shouldn't. Third, you propose to allow IPv4 addresses, which isn't supported. This document shouldn't progress without fixing these three problems. Regarding the suboption problem, there is no shortage of option codes in DHCPv6, and suboptions are not part of the DHCPv6 vernacular. Adding support for suboptions just for Kerberos is a bad idea. This is easy to fix--just get rid of the Kerberos option, and make all its suboptions into options. The flag bits issue is perhaps less of a showstopper, but it's still generally not done. Despite the fact that it could potentially waste space, we normally just add bytes to indicate boolean values. Effectively that's what you're doing here, but unless you really anticipate future expansion, I'd just specify the possible values for this field as 0 or 1. DHCPv6 doesn't support carrying IPv4 addresses, so you can't specify that, and you certainly can't provide IPv4 addresses where IPv6 addresses are expected. I realize that this seems weird, but think about how a DHCPv6 server or client would parse this: they'd have to have specific code just for the kerberos option, because no other option works this way. In general, options must not require that the server, and especially the client, implement custom code in order to support them. One last note: the document talks about how to use the Option Request Option. This is unnecessary and could potentially create an interoperability problem. RFC3315 describes the ORO and how to use it. There is no need to mention it in this document. _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Fri Apr 9 11:05:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D9A3A689B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:05:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.292 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.292 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.307, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fTJInXJD2CbX for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76BF3A6845 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A25108; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:05:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B73F7; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:05:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0474180E31; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:05:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBE780DDF for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:44:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id 0DAF245; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:44:10 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095AAD5 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:44:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0338245 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:44:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B647CC05D; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:44:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03693-09; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:44:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id C721A7CC054 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:44:09 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArAAAEsEv0tAEgKvkWdsb2JhbACbPBUBAQEBCQsKBxEFHbwEhQkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,179,1270443600"; d="scan'208";a="39971330" Received: from exprod7og111.obsmtp.com ([64.18.2.175]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2010 12:44:02 -0500 Received: from source ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob111.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKS79nYuep5k1U/7El1PP8TSPZE6ddHhEv@postini.com; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:44:09 PDT Received: from webmail.nominum.com (webmail.nominum.com [64.89.228.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "webmail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E392E1B82AA; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpna-148.vpn.nominum.com (64.89.227.148) by exchange-01.win.nominum.com (64.89.228.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.393.1; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:44:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: <4BBEF350.50804@tanu.org> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:43:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <30D65FE1A75FC35DC4C6387A@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> <20100408172823PR%kamada@nanohz.org> <4BBEF350.50804@tanu.org> To: Shoichi Sakane X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:05:18 -0500 Cc: "ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov" , "dhcwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] [dhcwg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov On Apr 9, 2010, at 5:28 AM, Shoichi Sakane wrote: > To be more precise: we need Realm Name Sub-Option, and a sign whether > this is default or not. So, my idea is to create like Realm Name Option > and Default Realm Name Option. The benefit is that the structure of > the container for this options could be unified to another option, > Client Principal Name Option. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov On Apr 9, 2010, at 5:29 AM, Shoichi Sakane wrote: > And sometimes a server needs to provide multiple same option. > I was not sure that the DHCPv6 is allowed to do that, which means > a single DHCP message includes more than one option. > So, we decided to create an option and three sub-options. 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From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Tue Apr 13 22:46:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E7B3A6B14 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:46:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.227 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.227 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.372, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IZdK6NXj6OV4 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C968828C24C for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2272AB; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1D6C1; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0662CC04A; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B8980E29 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id BA612BA; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60A4C1 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8BEBA for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978877CC06C; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00692-01; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3D07CC064 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:45:34 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoAFAP7yxEvLsolVX2dsb2JhbACPcItmCxUNCgQUIrx0hQ0EgyY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,202,1270443600"; d="scan'208";a="40147027" Received: from sh.wide.ad.jp ([203.178.137.85]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 14 Apr 2010 00:45:33 -0500 Received: from grayswandir.wide.ad.jp (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sh.wide.ad.jp (8.14.1+3.5Wbeta/8.14.1/smtpfeed 1.20) with ESMTP id o3E5jUsb006812; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:45:30 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:47:32 +0900 Message-ID: From: Masahiro =Rhythm Drive= Ishiyama To: Ted.Lemon@nominum.com In-Reply-To: References: <30D65FE1A75FC35DC4C6387A@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> <20100408172823PR%kamada@nanohz.org> <4BBEF350.50804@tanu.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.3 (i386-apple-darwin10.2.0) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: WIDE Project. MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") X-Dispatcher: imput version 20070423(IM149) Lines: 18 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov, dhcwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] WG Last Call: draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-08 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov >>>>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:26:29 -0400, Ted Lemon said: > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:18 AM, Masahiro =Rhythm Drive= Ishiyama wrote: >> How about KDC sub-option? Should it be integrated into >> (Default) Realm Name Option? Or should we make KDC Option and >> enforce the order of the occurrence of these options? > > You can't enforce the order in which options occur. So if two hunks of data need to be connected, the only way to do it is to put them into the same option. So we would like to merge the current Realm Name sub-option and KDC sub-option into single (Default) Realm Name option. 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From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Fri Apr 16 08:19:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D89F28C0D9 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:19:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VccAHktJcw9D for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CEA28C168 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347E8355; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:18:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A99E1AB; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1661180E43; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:18:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBF380E31 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:18:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AAE7CC081; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:18:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24859-03; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:18:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id B454B7CC07C for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:18:20 -0500 (CDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqoCAAQdyEsSB0QjnGdsb2JhbACbIlEVAQEBAQEICwgJERwGiB+tZohdAoJeFYIZBIZI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,219,1270443600"; d="scan'208";a="40286932" Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu ([18.7.68.35]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2010 10:18:19 -0500 X-AuditID: 12074423-b7c0bae0000030f0-8c-4bc87fbb31be Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (MAILHUB-AUTH-3.MIT.EDU [18.9.21.43]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-6.mit.edu (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 74.58.12528.BBF78CB4; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-EXCHANGE-2.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.16]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id o3GFIJ6B012692; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:18:19 -0400 Received: from w92exedge3.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU (W92EXEDGE3.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.7.73.15]) ) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id o3GFIIY6027246; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:18:18 -0400 Received: from w92exhub5.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.73.11) by w92exedge3.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.73.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.393.1; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:18:12 -0400 Received: from EXPO10.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.15]) by w92exhub5.exchange.mit.edu ([18.7.73.11]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:18:17 -0400 From: Thomas Hardjono To: "ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:18:15 -0400 Thread-Topic: Oasis Public Review of SAML V2.0 Kerberos Web Browser SSO Profile Version 1.0 Thread-Index: AcrdctpQ2+lvItJzTKmOfo8EMeLcmQABF6ag Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: Josh Howlett , "mitkc-web@mit.edu" Subject: [Ietf-krb-wg] Oasis Public Review of SAML V2.0 Kerberos Web Browser SSO Profile Version 1.0 X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Folks, Below is the Oasis announcement for the start of the 60-day Public Review of the Kerberos Web Browser SSO profile. This Kerberos/SAML doc is related to the previous two (Attribute Profile and the Subject Confirmation Method). Comments would be much appreciated. Regards. /thomas/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- -From: Mary McRae [mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org] -Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:22 AM -To: members@lists.oasis-open.org; tc-announce@lists.oasis-open.org -Cc: OASIS SSTC; OASIS TAB Subject: [security-services] Public Review of SAML V2.0 Kerberos Web Browser SSO Profile Version 1.0 To OASIS members, Public Announce Lists: The OASIS Security Services TC has recently approved the following specification as a Committee Draft and approved the package for public review: SAML V2.0 Kerberos Web Browser SSO Profile Version 1.0 The public review starts today, 16 April 2010, and ends 15 June 2010. This is an open invitation to comment. We strongly encourage feedback from potential users, developers and others, whether OASIS members or not, for the sake of improving the interoperability and quality of OASIS work. We also welcome interested parties to join the TC as it continues to further development of its specifications. [or more specific info from TC]. Please feel free to distribute this announcement within your organization and to other appropriate mail lists. More non-normative information about the specification and the technical committee may be found at the public home page of the TC at [1] below. Comments may be submitted to the TC by any person through the use of the OASIS TC Comment Facility which can be located via the button marked "Send A Comment" at the top of that page, or directly at [2] below. Submitted comments (for this work as well as other works of that TC) are publicly archived and can be viewed at [3] below. All comments submitted to OASIS are subject to the OASIS Feedback License, which ensures that the feedback you provide carries the same obligations at least as the obligations of the TC members. The specification document and related files are available here: Editable Source: http://docs.oasis-open.org/security/saml/Post2.0/sstc-saml-kerberos-browser-sso-cd-01.odt PDF: http://docs.oasis-open.org/security/saml/Post2.0/sstc-saml-kerberos-browser-sso-cd-01.pdf HTML: http://docs.oasis-open.org/security/saml/Post2.0/sstc-saml-kerberos-browser-sso-cd-01.html Schema: http://docs.oasis-open.org/security/saml/Post2.0/sstc-saml-kerberos-browser-sso-cd-01.xsd We also call your attention to the OASIS IPR Policy applicable to the work of this technical committee, which can be found at [4] below. All members of the TC should be familiar with this document, which may create obligations regarding the disclosure and availability of a member's patent, copyright, trademark and license rights that read on an approved OASIS specification. OASIS invites any persons who know of any such claims to disclose these if they may be essential to the implementation of the above specification, so that notice of them may be posted to the notice page for this TC's work, at [5] below. OASIS and the Security Services TC welcome your comments. Mary P McRae Director, Standards Development Technical Committee Administrator OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org web: www.oasis-open.org twitter: @fiberartisan #oasisopen phone: 1.603.232.9090 [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=security [2] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=security [3] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services-comment/ [4] http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php [5] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security/ipr.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From kitten-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Apr 16 16:31:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123263A6828 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:31:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Non-encoded 8-bit data (char C2 hex): From: Approved VIAGRA\302\256 Store ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl-219-132.hive.is (dsl-214-224.hive.is [85.197.214.224]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D45C3A6822 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:31:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Approved VIAGRA® Store Subject: New Private Message for krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20100416233121.8D45C3A6822@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:31:18 -0700 (PDT)
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2. Access to e-mail via Internet or mobile phone
3. Minimum age: 25
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