From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Mon Dec 2 04:52:55 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA09152 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:52:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB29tNU17699 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:55:23 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB29ogv17515; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:50:42 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB29mav17423 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:48:36 -0500 Received: from shardagate.mahindrabt.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA09035 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:45:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from thisdomain (mailscan.sharda.mahindrabt.com [10.5.0.97]) by shardagate.mahindrabt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id PAA19785 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:18:04 +0530 Received: from intranet.sharda.mahindrabt.com by mahindrabt.com ; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 15:08:34 +0530 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 15:08:34 +0530 X-Originating-IP: 10.5.0.15 X-Auth-User: pujarig@mahindrabt.com Received: from pujarig ([10.5.5.226]) by intranet.sharda.mahindrabt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA15088 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:17:52 +0530 Message-ID: <003c01c299e9$36466d10$e205050a@mahindrabt.com> From: "Girish Pujari" To: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:27:23 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C29A17.4FD54F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Subject: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C29A17.4FD54F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am going through the PCIMe.=20 The class SimplePolicyCondition is not clearly defined in the draft.=20 As per the section 3.2.6. ( Variables and Values ) in the document = "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt" the simplecondition / policyvariable / policyvalue are imported from = QPIM. But I cant see the same in the document = "draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-08.txt". Can I get the CIM definition for the SimplePolicyCondition. Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains=20 confidential information intended for a specific=20 individual and purpose, and is protected by law.=20 If you are not the intended recipient, you should=20 delete this message and are hereby notified that=20 any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it,=20 is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C29A17.4FD54F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I am going through the PCIMe. =
 
The class SimplePolicyCondition is not = clearly=20 defined in the draft. 
 
As per the section 3.2.6. ( Variables and Values ) in the document=20 "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt"
the simplecondition / policyvariable / = policyvalue=20 are imported from  QPIM.
 
But I cant see the same in the = document  =20 "draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-08.txt".
 
Can I get the CIM definition for the=20 SimplePolicyCondition.
 
 
 
Thanx
Regards
 
Girish Pujari

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------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C29A17.4FD54F20-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Mon Dec 2 05:52:42 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA09936 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 05:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB2At0X20944 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 05:55:00 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB2AoOv20835; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 05:50:24 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB2An3v20791 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 05:49:03 -0500 Received: from tokyo.ccrle.nec.de (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA09878 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 05:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de (imap [192.168.102.11]) by tokyo.ccrle.nec.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB2An1F49589; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:49:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from brunner@ccrle.nec.de) Received: from [192.168.102.207] (marcus.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de [192.168.102.207]) by imap.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux eMail Server 3.0) with ESMTP id C29AD6FD28; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:47:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:47:07 +0100 From: Marcus Brunner Reply-To: brunner@ccrle.nec.de To: Girish Pujari , policy@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition Message-ID: <4441816.1038829627@[192.168.102.207]> In-Reply-To: <003c01c299e9$36466d10$e205050a@mahindrabt.com> References: <003c01c299e9$36466d10$e205050a@mahindrabt.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The definition has basically moved from the QoS model to PCIMe, because for example the SimplePolicyCondition is used in many other models as well among them the QoS model. Marcus --On Montag, 2. Dezember 2002 15:08 +0530 Girish Pujari wrote: > > Hi, > > I am going through the PCIMe. > > The class SimplePolicyCondition is not clearly defined in the draft. > > As per the section 3.2.6. ( Variables and Values ) in the document > "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt" the simplecondition / policyvariable > / policyvalue are imported from QPIM. > But I cant see the same in the document > "draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-08.txt". > Can I get the CIM definition for the SimplePolicyCondition. > > > > Thanx > Regards > > Girish Pujari > > ********************************************************* > Disclaimer > > This message (including any attachments) contains > confidential information intended for a specific > individual and purpose, and is protected by law. > If you are not the intended recipient, you should > delete this message and are hereby notified that > any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this > message, or the taking of any action based on it, > is strictly prohibited. > > ********************************************************* > Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com > -------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Brunner Network Laboratories NEC Europe Ltd. E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ Phone: +49 (0) 6221 905 11 29 personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Mon Dec 2 06:54:23 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA10890 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB2BugE24304 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:56:42 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB2BqIv24099; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:52:18 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB2BpGv24071 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:51:16 -0500 Received: from shardagate.mahindrabt.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA10747 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from thisdomain (mailscan.sharda.mahindrabt.com [10.5.0.97]) by shardagate.mahindrabt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id RAA10565 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:21:05 +0530 Received: from intranet.sharda.mahindrabt.com by mahindrabt.com ; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:11:34 +0530 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:11:34 +0530 X-Originating-IP: 10.5.0.15 X-Auth-User: pujarig@mahindrabt.com Received: from pujarig ([10.5.5.226]) by intranet.sharda.mahindrabt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03291 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:20:58 +0530 Message-ID: <005f01c299fa$6853eec0$e205050a@mahindrabt.com> From: "Girish Pujari" To: References: <003c01c299e9$36466d10$e205050a@mahindrabt.com> <4441816.1038829627@[192.168.102.207]> Subject: Re: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:30:28 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcus, Thanx for that quick responce. I am refering to the ietf document "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt" The SimplePolicyCondition is refered but not defined. Where can I find it.I want to the properties of this class. Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcus Brunner To: Girish Pujari ; Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition > The definition has basically moved from the QoS model to PCIMe, because for > example the SimplePolicyCondition is used in many other models as well > among them the QoS model. > > Marcus > > --On Montag, 2. Dezember 2002 15:08 +0530 Girish Pujari > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am going through the PCIMe. > > > > The class SimplePolicyCondition is not clearly defined in the draft. > > > > As per the section 3.2.6. ( Variables and Values ) in the document > > "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt" the simplecondition / policyvariable > > / policyvalue are imported from QPIM. > > But I cant see the same in the document > > "draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-08.txt". > > Can I get the CIM definition for the SimplePolicyCondition. > > > > > > > > Thanx > > Regards > > > > Girish Pujari > > > > ********************************************************* > > Disclaimer > > > > This message (including any attachments) contains > > confidential information intended for a specific > > individual and purpose, and is protected by law. > > If you are not the intended recipient, you should > > delete this message and are hereby notified that > > any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this > > message, or the taking of any action based on it, > > is strictly prohibited. > > > > ********************************************************* > > Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > Dr. Marcus Brunner > Network Laboratories > NEC Europe Ltd. > > E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de > WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ > Phone: +49 (0) 6221 905 11 29 > personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus > > > ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. 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The class introduces no new properties - its role is to participate in the aggregations that tie a SimplePolicyCondition to its variable and value. Regards, Bob Bob Moore Advanced Design and Technology Application Integration Middleware Division IBM Software Group +1-919-254-4436 remoore@us.ibm.com "Girish Pujari" bt.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition policy-admin@ietf .org 12/02/2002 07:00 AM Marcus, Thanx for that quick responce. I am refering to the ietf document "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt" The SimplePolicyCondition is refered but not defined. Where can I find it.I want to the properties of this class. Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcus Brunner To: Girish Pujari ; Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition > The definition has basically moved from the QoS model to PCIMe, because for > example the SimplePolicyCondition is used in many other models as well > among them the QoS model. > > Marcus > > --On Montag, 2. Dezember 2002 15:08 +0530 Girish Pujari > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am going through the PCIMe. > > > > The class SimplePolicyCondition is not clearly defined in the draft. > > > > As per the section 3.2.6. ( Variables and Values ) in the document > > "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt" the simplecondition / policyvariable > > / policyvalue are imported from QPIM. > > But I cant see the same in the document > > "draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-08.txt". > > Can I get the CIM definition for the SimplePolicyCondition. > > > > > > > > Thanx > > Regards > > > > Girish Pujari > > > > ********************************************************* > > Disclaimer > > > > This message (including any attachments) contains > > confidential information intended for a specific > > individual and purpose, and is protected by law. > > If you are not the intended recipient, you should > > delete this message and are hereby notified that > > any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this > > message, or the taking of any action based on it, > > is strictly prohibited. > > > > ********************************************************* > > Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > Dr. Marcus Brunner > Network Laboratories > NEC Europe Ltd. > > E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de > WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ > Phone: +49 (0) 6221 905 11 29 > personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus > > > ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Mon Dec 2 20:24:19 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20746 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB31QjD17935 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:26:45 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB31MOv17548; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:22:24 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB31Lsv17511 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:21:54 -0500 Received: from srvmaddog.metasolv.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20645 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.metasolv.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:29:58 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Pana, Mircea" To: "'Girish Pujari'" Cc: policy@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:25:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C29A0E.BC3C4000" Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29A0E.BC3C4000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" see section 6.4. on page 43. -----Original Message----- From: Girish Pujari [mailto:pujarig@mahindrabt.com] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:00 AM To: policy@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition Marcus, Thanx for that quick responce. I am refering to the ietf document "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt" The SimplePolicyCondition is refered but not defined. Where can I find it.I want to the properties of this class. Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcus Brunner To: Girish Pujari ; Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition > The definition has basically moved from the QoS model to PCIMe, because for > example the SimplePolicyCondition is used in many other models as well > among them the QoS model. > > Marcus > > --On Montag, 2. Dezember 2002 15:08 +0530 Girish Pujari > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am going through the PCIMe. > > > > The class SimplePolicyCondition is not clearly defined in the draft. > > > > As per the section 3.2.6. ( Variables and Values ) in the document > > "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt" the simplecondition / policyvariable > > / policyvalue are imported from QPIM. > > But I cant see the same in the document > > "draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-08.txt". > > Can I get the CIM definition for the SimplePolicyCondition. > > > > > > > > Thanx > > Regards > > > > Girish Pujari > > > > ********************************************************* > > Disclaimer > > > > This message (including any attachments) contains > > confidential information intended for a specific > > individual and purpose, and is protected by law. > > If you are not the intended recipient, you should > > delete this message and are hereby notified that > > any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this > > message, or the taking of any action based on it, > > is strictly prohibited. > > > > ********************************************************* > > Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > Dr. Marcus Brunner > Network Laboratories > NEC Europe Ltd. > > E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de > WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ > Phone: +49 (0) 6221 905 11 29 > personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus > > > ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29A0E.BC3C4000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition

see section 6.4. on page 43.

-----Original Message-----
From: Girish Pujari [mailto:pujarig@mahindrabt.com]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:00 AM
To: policy@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition


Marcus,

Thanx for that quick responce.
I am refering to the ietf document "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt"
The SimplePolicyCondition is refered but not defined.
Where can I find it.I want to the properties of this class.

Thanx
Regards
Girish Pujari

----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Brunner <brunner@ccrle.nec.de>
To: Girish Pujari <pujarig@mahindrabt.com>; <policy@ietf.org>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition

> The definition has basically moved from the QoS model to PCIMe, because
for
> example the SimplePolicyCondition is used in many other models as well
> among them the QoS model.
>
> Marcus
>
> --On Montag, 2. Dezember 2002 15:08 +0530 Girish Pujari
> <pujarig@mahindrabt.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am going through the PCIMe.
> >
> > The class SimplePolicyCondition is not clearly defined in the draft.
> >
> > As per the section 3.2.6. ( Variables and Values ) in the document
> > "draft-ietf-policy-pcim-ext-08.txt"  the simplecondition /
policyvariable
> > / policyvalue are imported from  QPIM.
> > But I cant see the same in the document
> > "draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-08.txt".
> > Can I get the CIM definition for the SimplePolicyCondition.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanx
> > Regards
> >
> > Girish Pujari
> >
> > *********************************************************
> > Disclaimer
> >
> > This message (including any attachments) contains
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C29A0E.BC3C4000-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Mon Dec 2 20:24:52 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20778 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB31RIA17963 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:27:18 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB31N3v17607; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:23:03 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB31M2v17535 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:22:02 -0500 Received: from srvmaddog.metasolv.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20657 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.metasolv.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:30:08 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Pana, Mircea" To: "IETF Policy (E-mail)" Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:54:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C29A12.AB711940" Subject: [Policy] ENUM property values Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29A12.AB711940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Most ENUM property values in Policy documents use consecutive integers starting at 1. The integer value 0 (zero) is skipped. Was there a particular reason for this? Some implementers would prefer such values to start at 0. Thanks, Mircea. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29A12.AB711940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ENUM property values

Most ENUM property values in Policy = documents use consecutive integers starting at 1. The integer value 0 = (zero) is skipped. Was there a particular reason for this? Some = implementers would prefer such values to start at 0.

Thanks,
Mircea.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C29A12.AB711940-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue Dec 3 11:46:03 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02071 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB3GmO025465 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:48:24 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB3Ghhv25066; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:43:43 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB3Gd7v24749 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:39:07 -0500 Received: from tokyo.ccrle.nec.de (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA01461 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de (imap [192.168.102.11]) by tokyo.ccrle.nec.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB3Gd2F02790; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:39:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from brunner@ccrle.nec.de) Received: from [192.168.102.207] (marcus.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de [192.168.102.207]) by imap.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux eMail Server 3.0) with ESMTP id 6038659F24; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:37:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 17:37:03 +0100 From: Marcus Brunner Reply-To: brunner@ccrle.nec.de To: "Pana, Mircea" , "IETF Policy (E-mail)" Subject: Re: [Policy] ENUM property values Message-ID: <28838587.1038937023@[192.168.102.207]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I normally is good practice to start enums with 1 (Most of the MIB definition follow this practice). Normally, it makes implemetnations more robust when starting with 1. Marcus --On Montag, 2. Dezember 2002 08:54 -0600 "Pana, Mircea" wrote: > > Most ENUM property values in Policy documents use consecutive integers > starting at 1. The integer value 0 (zero) is skipped. Was there a > particular reason for this? Some implementers would prefer such values to > start at 0. > > Thanks, > Mircea. -------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Brunner Network Laboratories NEC Europe Ltd. E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ Phone: +49 (0) 6221 905 11 29 personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue Dec 3 11:52:42 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02463 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB3Gt3u25922 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:55:03 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB3GoWv25604; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:50:32 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB3Gn3v25530 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:49:03 -0500 Received: from srvmaddog.metasolv.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02095 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.metasolv.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:57:13 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Pana, Mircea" To: "'brunner@ccrle.nec.de'" , "IETF Policy (E-mail)" Subject: RE: [Policy] ENUM property values Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:46:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C29AEB.8A10E3F0" Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This message is in MIME format. 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Was there a > particular reason for this? Some implementers would prefer such values to > start at 0. > > Thanks, > Mircea. -------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Brunner Network Laboratories NEC Europe Ltd. E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ Phone: +49 (0) 6221 905 11 29 personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29AEB.8A10E3F0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [Policy] ENUM property values

Is 0 (zero) avoided in the model(s) to allow = implementations to reserve it for special situations that are outside = the scope of the model? Are there examples where 0 (zero) makes an = implementation less robust?

Thanks,
Mircea.



-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus Brunner [mailto:brunner@ccrle.nec.de]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:37 AM
To: Pana, Mircea; IETF Policy (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Policy] ENUM property values


I normally is good practice to start enums with 1 = (Most of the MIB
definition follow this practice). Normally, it makes = implemetnations more
robust when starting with 1.

Marcus

--On Montag, 2. Dezember 2002 08:54 -0600 "Pana, = Mircea"
<mpana@metasolv.com> wrote:

>
> Most ENUM property values in Policy documents = use consecutive integers
> starting at 1. The integer value 0 (zero) is = skipped. Was there a
> particular reason for this? Some implementers = would prefer such values to
> start at 0.
>
> Thanks,
> Mircea.



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------_=_NextPart_001_01C29AEB.8A10E3F0-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 4 05:49:30 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA05694 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 05:49:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB4ApmG08295 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 05:51:48 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4Al1v08159; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 05:47:01 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4Ajav08073 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 05:45:36 -0500 Received: from shardagate.mahindrabt.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA05560 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 05:42:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from thisdomain (mailscan.sharda.mahindrabt.com [10.5.0.97]) by shardagate.mahindrabt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id QAA30552 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:15:23 +0530 Received: from intranet.sharda.mahindrabt.com by mahindrabt.com ; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 16:05:48 +0530 Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 16:05:48 +0530 X-Originating-IP: 10.5.0.15 X-Auth-User: pujarig@mahindrabt.com Received: from pujarig ([10.5.5.226]) by intranet.sharda.mahindrabt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25689 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:15:14 +0530 Message-ID: <003901c29b83$8dfd8b60$e205050a@mahindrabt.com> From: "Girish Pujari" To: Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:24:44 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C29BB1.A7836CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Subject: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C29BB1.A7836CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The simplePolicyCondition contains an aggregation of PolicyVariable and = PolicyValue. I am trying to put this in LDAP schema and unable create an object of = SimplePolicyObject. objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.61 NAME 'PolicyVariableAux' SUP PolicyVariable AUXILIARY ) objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.62 NAME 'PolicyValueAux' SUP PolicyValue AUXILIARY ) objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.510 NAME = 'SimplePolicyCondition' DESC 'Aux classes that can attach to dlm1SupportAccessInstance.' AUX ( PolicyVariableAux $ PolicyValueAux )=20 ) Can anyone suggest the proper class hierarchy ?=20 Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains=20 confidential information intended for a specific=20 individual and purpose, and is protected by law.=20 If you are not the intended recipient, you should=20 delete this message and are hereby notified that=20 any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it,=20 is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C29BB1.A7836CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The simplePolicyCondition contains an = aggregation=20 of PolicyVariable and PolicyValue.
I am trying to put this in = LDAP schema=20 and unable create an object of SimplePolicyObject.
 
 
objectclass ( = 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.61 NAME=20 'PolicyVariableAux'
 SUP PolicyVariable=20 AUXILIARY
 )
 
objectclass ( = 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.62 NAME=20 'PolicyValueAux'
 SUP PolicyValue = AUXILIARY
 )
 
 
objectclass ( = 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.510 NAME=20 'SimplePolicyCondition'
 DESC 'Aux classes that can attach=20 to
 dlm1SupportAccessInstance.'
 AUX ( PolicyVariableAux = $=20 PolicyValueAux )
 )
 
Can anyone suggest the proper = class hierarchy=20 ? 
 
 
 
Thanx
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------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C29BB1.A7836CC0-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 4 09:47:41 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA14011 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB4Eo3x22334 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:50:03 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4EjVv22164; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:45:31 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4Eijv22141 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:44:45 -0500 Received: from srvmaddog.metasolv.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA13772 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.metasolv.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:52:58 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Pana, Mircea" To: "'Girish Pujari'" Cc: policy@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:42:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C29BA3.55D78F40" Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29BA3.55D78F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There are many possible implementations. One of them might be: [...] attributetypes: ( valueDN-oid NAME 'valueDN' SYNTAX '1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.12' SINGLE-VALUE ) attributetypes: ( variableDN-oid NAME 'variableDN' SYNTAX '1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.12' SINGLE-VALUE ) objectclasses: ( simpleCondition-oid NAME 'simpleCondition' DESC 'Variable-Match-Value.' SUP 'condition' MUST ( ) MAY ( valueDN $ variableDN ) ) objectclasses: ( value-oid NAME 'value' DESC 'Generic Policy Value.' SUP 'top' MUST ( ) MAY ( ) ) objectclasses: ( variable-oid NAME 'variable' DESC 'Generic Policy Variable.' SUP 'top' MUST ( ) MAY ( ) ) [...] -----Original Message----- From: Girish Pujari [mailto:pujarig@mahindrabt.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:55 AM To: policy@ietf.org Subject: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition The simplePolicyCondition contains an aggregation of PolicyVariable and PolicyValue. I am trying to put this in LDAP schema and unable create an object of SimplePolicyObject. objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.61 NAME 'PolicyVariableAux' SUP PolicyVariable AUXILIARY ) objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.62 NAME 'PolicyValueAux' SUP PolicyValue AUXILIARY ) objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.510 NAME 'SimplePolicyCondition' DESC 'Aux classes that can attach to dlm1SupportAccessInstance.' AUX ( PolicyVariableAux $ PolicyValueAux ) ) Can anyone suggest the proper class hierarchy ? Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C29BA3.55D78F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
There are many possible implementations. One of them might be:
 
[...]
 
attributetypes: ( valueDN-oid NAME 'valueDN'
  SYNTAX '1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.12'  SINGLE-VALUE )
 
attributetypes: ( variableDN-oid NAME 'variableDN'
  SYNTAX '1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.12'  SINGLE-VALUE )
 
objectclasses: ( simpleCondition-oid NAME 'simpleCondition'
  DESC 'Variable-Match-Value.'
  SUP 'condition'
  MUST ( ) MAY ( valueDN $ variableDN ) )
 
objectclasses: ( value-oid NAME 'value'
  DESC 'Generic Policy Value.'
  SUP 'top'
  MUST ( ) MAY ( ) )
objectclasses: ( variable-oid NAME 'variable'
  DESC 'Generic Policy Variable.'
  SUP 'top'
  MUST ( ) MAY ( ) )

[...]
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Girish Pujari [mailto:pujarig@mahindrabt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:55 AM
To: policy@ietf.org
Subject: [Policy] SimplePolicyCondition

The simplePolicyCondition contains an aggregation of PolicyVariable and PolicyValue.
I am trying to put this in LDAP schema and unable create an object of SimplePolicyObject.
 
 
objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.61 NAME 'PolicyVariableAux'
 SUP PolicyVariable AUXILIARY
 )
 
objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.62 NAME 'PolicyValueAux'
 SUP PolicyValue AUXILIARY
 )
 
 
objectclass ( 1.3.6.1.4.1.412.100.2.1.3.1.510 NAME 'SimplePolicyCondition'
 DESC 'Aux classes that can attach to
 dlm1SupportAccessInstance.'
 AUX ( PolicyVariableAux $ PolicyValueAux )
 )
 
Can anyone suggest the proper class hierarchy ? 
 
 
 
Thanx
Regards
 
Girish Pujari

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C29BA3.55D78F40-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Fri Dec 6 01:09:43 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA15978 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gB66CEZ22410 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:12:14 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6683v22270; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:08:03 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB666mv21635 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:06:48 -0500 Received: from shardagate.mahindrabt.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA15886 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:03:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from thisdomain (mailscan.sharda.mahindrabt.com [10.5.0.97]) by shardagate.mahindrabt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id LAA18329 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:36:32 +0530 Received: from intranet.sharda.mahindrabt.com by mahindrabt.com ; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:26:53 +0530 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:26:53 +0530 X-Originating-IP: 10.5.0.15 X-Auth-User: pujarig@mahindrabt.com Received: from pujarig ([10.5.5.226]) by intranet.sharda.mahindrabt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27823 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:36:23 +0530 Message-ID: <002201c299ca$43a2a010$e205050a@mahindrabt.com> From: "Girish Pujari" To: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:45:51 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C299F8.5D40C460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Subject: [Policy] CIM Extention doubt Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C299F8.5D40C460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pana Mircea your suggestion for LDAP implementation was greate help and = it works fine. Thanx a lot. =20 I have few querries in the PCIMe. The representation of schema in different Policy information models = (CIM,LDAP,PIB) does it follow the same methodology or heirachy of classes ?.Do we need = to maintain the same class hierachy for common standards ? We have SimplePolicyCondition which contains the PolicyVariable , = PolicyValue and Matching a operator. These Policy variable/Value can take the form of any variable ( = DSCP,IPADDRESS,BW,QueueAlgorithm etc) and value (int ,long ....)=20 In case of LDAP does any standard strictly say that the heirachy is = PolicyGroup -> PolicyRule -> PolicyCondition -> PolicyVariable/Value.? Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains=20 confidential information intended for a specific=20 individual and purpose, and is protected by law.=20 If you are not the intended recipient, you should=20 delete this message and are hereby notified that=20 any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it,=20 is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C299F8.5D40C460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pana Mircea your suggestion for LDAP = implementation=20 was greate help and it works fine.
Thanx a lot.
 
 
I have few querries in the = PCIMe.
 
The representation of schema in = different Policy=20 information models (CIM,LDAP,PIB)
does it follow the same methodology or = heirachy of=20 classes ?.Do we need to maintain the same class hierachy for common = standards=20 ?
 
We have SimplePolicyCondition which = contains the=20 PolicyVariable , PolicyValue and Matching a operator.
 
These Policy variable/Value can take = the form of=20 any variable ( DSCP,IPADDRESS,BW,QueueAlgorithm etc)
and value (int ,long ....)
 
In case of LDAP does any standard = strictly say that=20 the heirachy is PolicyGroup -> PolicyRule -> PolicyCondition = ->=20 PolicyVariable/Value.?
 
 
 
Thanx
Regards
 
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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C299F8.5D40C460-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue Dec 10 23:37:59 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA01213 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBB4eWK20918 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:40:32 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBB4aKv20153; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:36:20 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBB4Yvv20089 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:34:57 -0500 Received: from EXECDSL.COM (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA01163 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [66.95.38.74] (HELO JLaptop.stevecrocker.com) by EXECDSL.COM (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3) with ESMTP id 4032156; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:34:47 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021210232850.025c3e38@mail.stevecrocker.com> X-Sender: joel@stevecrocker.com@mail.stevecrocker.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:34:42 -0500 To: policy@ietf.org From: "Joel M. Halpern" Cc: Ed Ellesson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Policy] Working Group Status Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , At the current time, we have several documents under consideration before the IESG. We have one document on our charter that we have not begun (LDAP Mapping for the QoS Policy Information Model, aka QPLS for QPIM). We could / should also do an LDAP mapping for the policy core extensions. Before asking for working group concurrence on undertaking one or both of these LDAP mapping documents, there is a critical step. We need to determine if we have enough folks to actually do these documents. Based on experience, we need several folks to form a writing team. Preferably, at least one of these folks should have some previous experience building LDAP schemas. So, the point of this email is to find folks who are willing to take an active part in producing such documents (if the working group decides it wants to produce them, and the ADs and IESG concur that we should). If you would be willing to work on a writing team to produce either of these documents, please send email, preferably to the working group, but alternatively to me and Ed. Yours, Joel M. Halpern _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 11 20:46:14 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA28671 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBC1mkN03834 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:48:46 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBC1igv03703; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:44:42 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBBDF9v26081 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:15:09 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA03562; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:12:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212111312.IAA03562@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; CC: policy@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:12:08 -0500 Subject: [Policy] I-D ACTION:draft-bartz-lsb-policy-rule-components-00.txt Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Logically Succinct Basic Policy Rule Components Author(s) : L. Bartz Filename : draft-bartz-lsb-policy-rule-components-00.txt Pages : 46 Date : 2002-12-9 Logically Succinct Basic Policy Rule Components (LSBPRC) provides model extensions to the Policy Core Information Model (PCIM) and implementable extensions to the Policy Core LDAP Schema (PCLS) in which the logic of conditions and actions can be succinctly expressed and explicitly interpreted. LSBPRC offers a direct and invariant connection between the rule designer's intention and the rule interpreter's evaluation of the rulebase. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bartz-lsb-policy-rule-components-00.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2002-12-9150124.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-bartz-lsb-policy-rule-components-00.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-bartz-lsb-policy-rule-components-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2002-12-9150124.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 18 08:43:25 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA06481 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIDjuO05011 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:45:56 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIDe7v04865; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:40:07 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIDbtv04777 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:37:55 -0500 Received: from yamato.ccrle.nec.de (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA06121 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:34:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de (imap [192.168.102.11]) by yamato.ccrle.nec.de (8.12.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id gBIElBOf007394 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:47:11 GMT Received: from [192.168.102.207] (marcus.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de [192.168.102.207]) by imap.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux eMail Server 3.0) with ESMTP id A216852AC5 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:34:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:50:25 +0100 From: Marcus Brunner Reply-To: marcus@brubers.org To: policy@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Policy] Working Group Status Message-ID: <16196729.1040223025@[192.168.102.207]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, forgot to send it to the list. -------------------------------------- Joel, Ed, Angelica and myself have already started to work on this some time ago, we basically stop because we felt that the model needs to go through first. So we are able to submit a first draft very soon (it is basically ready, needs another pass). But we appriciate any help we can get from LDAP specalists, we only have some implementation expierence (have a LDAP implementation for PCLS). Marcus --On Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 23:34 -0500 "Joel M. Halpern" wrote: > At the current time, we have several documents under consideration before > the IESG. We have one document on our charter that we have not begun > (LDAP Mapping for the QoS Policy Information Model, aka QPLS for QPIM). > We could / should also do an LDAP mapping for the policy core extensions. > > Before asking for working group concurrence on undertaking one or both of > these LDAP mapping documents, there is a critical step. We need to > determine if we have enough folks to actually do these documents. Based > on experience, we need several folks to form a writing team. Preferably, > at least one of these folks should have some previous experience building > LDAP schemas. > > So, the point of this email is to find folks who are willing to take an > active part in producing such documents (if the working group decides it > wants to produce them, and the ADs and IESG concur that we should). If > you would be willing to work on a writing team to produce either of these > documents, please send email, preferably to the working group, but > alternatively to me and Ed. > > Yours, > Joel M. Halpern > > > _______________________________________________ > Policy mailing list > Policy@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy -------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Brunner Network Laboratories NEC Europe Ltd. E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ Phone: +49 (0) 6221 905 11 29 personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 18 08:45:05 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA06552 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIDlbe05059 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:47:37 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIDg4v04920; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:42:04 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIDdPv04819 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:39:25 -0500 Received: from yamato.ccrle.nec.de (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA06231 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de (imap [192.168.102.11]) by yamato.ccrle.nec.de (8.12.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id gBIEmgOf007445 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:48:42 GMT Received: from [192.168.102.207] (marcus.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de [192.168.102.207]) by imap.heidelberg.ccrle.nec.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux eMail Server 3.0) with ESMTP id B2A4A631C0 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:36:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:51:56 +0100 From: Marcus Brunner Reply-To: marcus@brubers.org To: policy@ietf.org Message-ID: <16287820.1040223116@[192.168.102.207]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Policy] PCIMe LDAP mapping submitted Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We just now submitted the PCIMe LDAP mapping as individual submission. There needs to be more work, buit that is what we have before christmas. You can also find under http://www.brubers.org/marcus/papers/draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-00. txt Marcus -------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Brunner Network Laboratories NEC Europe Ltd. E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ Phone: +49 (0) 6221 905 11 29 personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 18 11:24:13 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA12045 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIGQjV14466 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:26:45 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIGKqv14255; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:20:52 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIGJLv14126 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:19:21 -0500 Received: from mail.sandvine.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA11862 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.sandvine.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:19:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: David McTavish To: policy@ietf.org Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:19:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [Policy] pcimRuleConditionAssociation can contain pcimConditionAuxClass Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Just wondering if this association means that a condition can contain conditions? It seems that all of the *AuxClass objects are used to infer that an object can contain child objects of type *. This seems especially evident via the PcimRuleAuxClass and PcimGroupAuxClass. It also appears that the pcimRuleConditionAssociation is an abstract implementation of a core PcimCondition (on par with how a PcimRule object represents a rule). After reading through the draft, it seems that the naming convention for classes as they relate to conditions and actions are not 100% in-sync with rules and groups. This seems somewhat misleading/confusing to users of this standard, and I was wondering if there was any explanation/reasoning for the change in naming convention between these sets of objects? thx, d. _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 18 14:32:02 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA16622 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIJYbG25945 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:34:37 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIJTgv25708; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:29:42 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBIJSFv25664 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:28:15 -0500 Received: from mail.sandvine.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA16493 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.sandvine.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:28:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: David McTavish To: "'marcus@brubers.org'" , policy@ietf.org Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:28:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C2A6CB.96512F30" Subject: [Policy] java-implementation Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C2A6CB.96512F30 Content-Type: text/plain I was hoping that someone would be interested enough to look at the attached java-based source files to give me an idea of whether my interpretation of what the PCIM model is supposed to be is correct. I have found that the model proposed in the draft is fairly understandable, but there are some minor inconsistencies with how conditions and actions are handled/implemented. Anyway, please feel free to use these files in any form if it would help bring this proposal into a finalized standard. d. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C2A6CB.96512F30 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="pcim.zip" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pcim.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 UEsDBAoAAAAAAO9Nki0AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJAAAAb3JnL2lldGYvUEsDBAoAAAAAAOZyki0AAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAOAAAAb3JnL2lldGYvcGNpbS9QSwMEFAAAAAgARW+SLaTYcvvWAgAAvAcAACUAAABv cmcvaWV0Zi9wY2ltL1BjaW1BY3Rpb25BdXhDbGFzcy5qYXZhpVRLb+IwEL4j8R/m2K3YUPW6l0U9 VeoBlZX2bJwJmTaJI9uBotX+9/38IEBb0ErNpdSe+V5jez7/2jedzOf0YPq9lU3t6f7u7p5Wqiu3 0jE9dtrY3ljluSxo0TQUqxxZdmy3YTEhfO2bTqaTXulXtWEydlMI+6rotbQ/wo60UODpRW1VMXhp iidxPu6A+fZ2OqFbol81Uz9AqwNERYp604jek9JeTEfiyBviN9aDR0EXeKg1Fn97hj3UoKJWnhLc TuBVVRVrTx37nbGv5C0WRBPCmaPb7Z3n1s2o5K1oxg/2uiDpAF2yDXwJS+laeMvQVLITy+VBm/PI tQjaIU83yrmgc3CoQLPlPqTceRCOSNEMNtdwy7YytkWxcsBG7dD4M+92aJh2dYhEm66U2JyQwAYe 2qHVwb2rBLNMW6thHbWwC2A+aFPDmzSi7D6r1FAEBcp7eEtqpYObTh+aLHNmMr5GGAdEpIP/afnw 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Message-ID: <00f101c2a74c$bbded050$e205050a@mahindrabt.com> From: "Girish Pujari" To: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:22:32 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C2A77A.D5818880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Subject: [Policy] DMTF CIM 2.7 Network->Qos->Diffserv standards Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C2A77A.D5818880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable THe latest DMTF CIM version 2.7 has the schema for diffserv under QoS http://www.dmtf.org/standards/documents/CIM/CIM_Schema27/mofs/271/CIM_Net= work27.zip Does PCIMe needs to cover that ? Are the diffserv parameters like Classifier,Meter,Dropper ,Schedulers = and Markers have been defined in PCIMe? The Traffic descriptors are already covered for IP Filter (and 802.11 = priority) in PCIMe. How PCIMe will refer to DMTF CIM QoS standards ? Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains=20 confidential information intended for a specific=20 individual and purpose, and is protected by law.=20 If you are not the intended recipient, you should=20 delete this message and are hereby notified that=20 any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it,=20 is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C2A77A.D5818880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Does PCIMe needs to cover that = ?
Are the diffserv parameters like=20 Classifier,Meter,Dropper ,Schedulers and Markers have been defined = in=20 PCIMe?
 
The Traffic descriptors are already = covered for IP=20 Filter (and 802.11 priority) in PCIMe.
 
How PCIMe will refer to DMTF CIM QoS = standards=20 ?
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C2A77A.D5818880-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Thu Dec 19 09:13:37 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA16555 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJEGL128839 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:16:21 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJECAv28688; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:12:10 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJEArv28642 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:10:53 -0500 Received: from srvmaddog.metasolv.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA16402 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.metasolv.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:19:25 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Pana, Mircea" To: "'Girish Pujari'" , policy@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Policy] DMTF CIM 2.7 Network->Qos->Diffserv standards Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:09:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2A768.2F99C840" Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A768.2F99C840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Girish, You may want to take a look at the other procucts of the Policy WG. I think that the following documents have answers to your questions: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model- 08.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-policy-qos-info-model-04.txt Regards, Mircea. -----Original Message----- From: Girish Pujari [mailto:pujarig@mahindrabt.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:53 AM To: policy@ietf.org Subject: [Policy] DMTF CIM 2.7 Network->Qos->Diffserv standards THe latest DMTF CIM version 2.7 has the schema for diffserv under QoS http://www.dmtf.org/standards/documents/CIM/CIM_Schema27/mofs/271/CIM_Networ k27.zip Does PCIMe needs to cover that ? Are the diffserv parameters like Classifier,Meter,Dropper ,Schedulers and Markers have been defined in PCIMe? The Traffic descriptors are already covered for IP Filter (and 802.11 priority) in PCIMe. How PCIMe will refer to DMTF CIM QoS standards ? Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A768.2F99C840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Girish,
 
You=20 may want to take a look at the other procucts of the Policy=20 WG.
I=20 think that the following documents have answers to your=20 questions:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-polic= y-qos-device-info-model-08.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-policy-qos-i= nfo-model-04.txt
 
Regards,
Mircea.
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THe latest DMTF CIM version 2.7 has = the schema=20 for diffserv under QoS
 
http://www.dmtf.org/standards/documents/CIM/CIM_Sch= ema27/mofs/271/CIM_Network27.zip
 
Does PCIMe needs to cover that = ?
Are the diffserv parameters like=20 Classifier,Meter,Dropper ,Schedulers and Markers have been = defined in=20 PCIMe?
 
The Traffic descriptors are already = covered for=20 IP Filter (and 802.11 priority) in PCIMe.
 
How PCIMe will refer to DMTF CIM QoS = standards=20 ?
 
 
Thanx
Regards
 
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A768.2F99C840-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Thu Dec 19 09:47:22 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA17155 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJEo6t30634 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:50:06 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJEkAv30421; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:46:10 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJEjFv30371 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:45:15 -0500 Received: from e5.ny.us.ibm.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA17025; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from northrelay02.pok.ibm.com (northrelay02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.150]) by e5.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gBJEj0Q0256758; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:45:00 -0500 Received: from d03nm118.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.193.82]) by northrelay02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.3/NCO/VER6.4) with ESMTP id gBJEiwJF110186; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:44:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Policy] DMTF CIM 2.7 Network->Qos->Diffserv standards To: "Girish Pujari" Cc: policy@ietf.org, policy-admin@ietf.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: Robert Moore Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:44:44 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM118/03/M/IBM(Release 6.0 [IBM]|December 16, 2002) at 12/19/2002 07:45:00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Girish, The document organization is a little different between the IETF and DMTF. While the classes for filtering on fields in the packet headers are indeed in PCIMe, the classes for the datapath elements themselves are in a different document: QDDIM - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-model-08.txt I believe that this document is going to be taken forward to the IESG some time soon - but Bert will have to tell us exactly what its status is. Regards, Bob Bob Moore Advanced Design and Technology Application Integration Middleware Division IBM Software Group +1-919-254-4436 remoore@us.ibm.com "Girish Pujari" bt.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: [Policy] DMTF CIM 2.7 Network->Qos->Diffserv standards policy-admin@ietf .org 12/19/2002 05:52 AM THe latest DMTF CIM version 2.7 has the schema for diffserv under QoS http://www.dmtf.org/standards/documents/CIM/CIM_Schema27/mofs/271/CIM_Network27.zip Does PCIMe needs to cover that ? Are the diffserv parameters like Classifier,Meter,Dropper ,Schedulers and Markers have been defined in PCIMe? The Traffic descriptors are already covered for IP Filter (and 802.11 priority) in PCIMe. How PCIMe will refer to DMTF CIM QoS standards ? Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Thu Dec 19 10:02:26 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA17440 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBJF5B431125 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:05:11 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJF1Bv31005; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:01:11 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBJF0rv30963 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:00:53 -0500 Received: from hoemail1.firewall.lucent.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA17345; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by hoemail1.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.2.2/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id gBJF0aD28313; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:00:35 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B15583CF3A@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: Robert Moore , Girish Pujari Cc: policy@ietf.org, policy-admin@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Policy] DMTF CIM 2.7 Network->Qos->Diffserv standards Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:00:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Bob writes > > Girish, > > The document organization is a little different between the IETF and DMTF. > While the classes for filtering on fields in the packet headers are indeed > in PCIMe, the classes for the datapath elements themselves are in a > different document: QDDIM - > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-policy-qos-devi > ce-info-model-08.txt > > I believe that this document is going to be taken forward to the IESG some > time soon - but Bert will have to tell us exactly what its status is. > Yes, before the end of this calender year! Bert _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Fri Dec 20 10:42:40 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA29796 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:42:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBKFjbX22754 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:45:37 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBKFaGv21669; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:36:18 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBKCBkv11924 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:11:46 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA22796; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:08:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212201208.HAA22796@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; CC: policy@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:08:18 -0500 Subject: [Policy] I-D ACTION:draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-00.txt Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Policy Core Extension LDAP Schema (PCELS) Author(s) : A. Reyes et al. Filename : draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-00.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2002-12-18 This document defines a number of changes and extensions to the Policy Cores LDAP Schema [PCLS] based on Policy Core Information Model Extensions [PCIM_EXT]. The changes include additional classes previously not covered, and a change to the existing classes in PCLS. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-00.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-00.txt". 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I feel that these documents are to be integrated with PCIM and PCIMe = soon. Thanx Regards Girish Pujari ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Pana, Mircea=20 To: 'Girish Pujari' ; policy@ietf.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:59 PM Subject: RE: [Policy] DMTF CIM 2.7 Network->Qos->Diffserv standards Girish, You may want to take a look at the other procucts of the Policy WG. I think that the following documents have answers to your questions: = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-policy-qos-device-info-mod= el-08.txt = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-policy-qos-info-model-04.t= xt Regards, Mircea. -----Original Message----- From: Girish Pujari [mailto:pujarig@mahindrabt.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:53 AM To: policy@ietf.org Subject: [Policy] DMTF CIM 2.7 Network->Qos->Diffserv standards THe latest DMTF CIM version 2.7 has the schema for diffserv under QoS = http://www.dmtf.org/standards/documents/CIM/CIM_Schema27/mofs/271/CIM_Net= work27.zip Does PCIMe needs to cover that ? Are the diffserv parameters like Classifier,Meter,Dropper = ,Schedulers and Markers have been defined in PCIMe? The Traffic descriptors are already covered for IP Filter (and = 802.11 priority) in PCIMe. How PCIMe will refer to DMTF CIM QoS standards ? 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This gives me a complete diffserv=20 classes.
I feel that these documents are to be = integrated=20 with PCIM and PCIMe soon.
 
Thanx
Regards
 
Girish Pujari
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Girish,
 
You=20 may want to take a look at the other procucts of the Policy=20 WG.
I=20 think that the following documents have answers to your=20 questions:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-policy-= qos-device-info-model-08.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-policy-qos-inf= o-model-04.txt
 
Regards,
Mircea.
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To: policy@ietf.org
Subject: [Policy] = DMTF CIM=20 2.7 Network->Qos->Diffserv standards

THe latest DMTF CIM version 2.7 has = the schema=20 for diffserv under QoS
 
http://www.dmtf.org/standards/documents/CIM/CIM_Schem= a27/mofs/271/CIM_Network27.zip
 
Does PCIMe needs to cover that = ?
Are the diffserv parameters like=20 Classifier,Meter,Dropper ,Schedulers and Markers have been = defined in=20 PCIMe?
 
The Traffic descriptors are already = covered for=20 IP Filter (and 802.11 priority) in PCIMe.
 
How PCIMe will refer to DMTF CIM = QoS standards=20 ?
 
 
Thanx
Regards
 
Girish=20 = Pujari

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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2A9C3.10672FF0-- _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Mon Dec 23 08:17:10 2002 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA29388 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBNDKe609533 for policy-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:20:40 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBNDGUv09363; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:16:30 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBNDELv09295 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:14:21 -0500 Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA29087 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from westrelay04.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.193.32]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gBNDDLmV028940 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:13:21 -0500 Received: from d03nm118.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.193.82]) by westrelay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.3/NCO/VER6.4) with ESMTP id gBNDGlXw014790 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:16:47 -0700 To: policy@ietf.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: Robert Moore Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:13:19 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM118/03/M/IBM(Release 6.0 [IBM]|December 16, 2002) at 12/23/2002 06:13:20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Policy] Closed Issues appendix from PCIMe Sender: policy-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: policy-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Policy Framework List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Now that PCIMe is about to be published as an RFC (really, it is! :-), it's time to remove the appendix where we tracked the open, and then subsequently closed, issues. Rather than losing this information entirely, Bert has suggested that I include it in a note to the mailing list, so that it will be archived in a place that someone looking for it might logically try. So here it is: 16. Appendix A: Closed Issues EDITOR'S NOTE: The following list captures the major technical issues that were resolved during the course of progressing PCIMe from initial draft to Proposed Standard. This appendix will be removed for submission to the RFC Editor (unless there is a consensus to preserve it in the RFC), but it should be archived somewhere. 1. Unrestricted use of DNF/CNF for CompoundPolicyConditions. Alternative: for the conditions aggregated by a CompoundPolicyCondition, allow only ANDing, with negation of individual conditions. Note that this is sufficient to build multi-field packet filters from single-field SimplePolicyConditions. RESOLUTION: The same DNF/CNF capabilities present for aggregating PolicyConditions into a PolicyRule have been retained for aggregating PolicyConditions into a CompoundPolicyCondition. 2. For a PolicyVariable in a SimplePolicyCondition, restrict the set of possible values both via associated PolicyValue objects (tied in with the ExpectedPolicyValuesForVariable association) and via the ValueTypes property in the PolicyVariable class. Alternative: restrict values only via associated PolicyValue objects. RESOLUTION: PCIMe continues to allow both mechanisms for restricting the values of a PolicyVariable. 3. Transactional semantics, including rollback, for the ExecutionStrategy property in PolicyRule and in CompoundPolicyAction. Alternative: have only 'Do until success' and 'Do all'. RESOLUTION: No transactional semantics for action execution. The value 'Mandatory Do All(1)' has been removed from the two ExecutionStrategy properties. 4. Stating that CompoundFilterConditions are the preferred way to do packet filtering in a PolicyCondition. Alternative: make CompoundFilterConditions and FilterEntries available to submodels, with no stated (or implied) preference. RESOLUTION: Recommendations for use of CompoundFilterConditions and FilterEntries are retained, but they have been recast slightly. CompoundFilterConditions are now positioned as the recommended approach for domain-level models. FilterEntries are the recommended approach for device-level models. 5. Prohibiting equal values for Priority within a PolicySet. Alternative: allow equal values, with resulting indeterminacy in PEP behavior. RESOLUTION: PCIMe will continue to prohibit equal Priority values. 6. Modeling a SimplePolicyAction with just a related PolicyVariable and PolicyValue -- the "set" or "apply" operation is implicit. Alternative: include an Operation property in SimplePolicyAction, similar to the Operation property in SimplePolicyCondition. RESOLUTION: This issue has been resolved by a change in the opposite direction. The operations are now implicit for BOTH SimplePolicyCondition and SimplePolicyAction. See Sections 5.8.3 and 5.8.4, respectively, for discussions of SimplePolicyCondition's implicit MATCH operator and SimplePolicyAction's implicit SET operator. 7. Representation of PolicyValues: should values like IPv4 addresses be represented only as strings (as in LDAP), or natively (e.g., an IPv4 address would be a four-octet field) with mappings to other representations such as strings? RESOLUTION: Mappings have been eliminated. Each value type has a single representation specified for it. 8. The nesting of rules and groups within rules introduces significant change and complexity in the model. This nesting introduces program state (procedural language) into the model (heretofore a declarative model) as well as implicit hierarchical contexts on which the rules operate. These require a much more sophisticated rule-evaluation engine than in the past. Alternative: Maintain the declarative model, by prohibiting program state in rule evaluation (i.e., no rules within rules). RESOLUTION: Nesting of rules and groups within rules has been retained, but with a significant new limitation: actions associated with a rule do not have side effects that would impact condition evaluation for subsequent rules. "Subsequent rules" here includes both rules nested within the rule whose actions are under discussion, and rules at the same nesting level as this rule that are evaluated after it. Note that it has been a feature of PCIM (RFC 3060) all along that condition evaluation has no side effects that would influence condition evaluation for subsequent rules. There is also one modeling detail associated with nesting that has been changed. Rather than having separate aggregations (PolicyGroupInPolicyGroup, etc.) for each of the four nesting varieties, the single aggregation PolicySetComponent is now used as a concrete aggregation class. 9. Need to specify a join algorithm for disjoint rule sets. RESOLUTION: PCIMe now states that for different functional domains (e.g., QoS and IKE), there is no join algorithm. Each domain, in effect, has its own rule engine, which operates independently of the other domains' engine(s). Within a functional domain, disjoint PolicySets are joined by the Priority property in the PolicySetInSystem association. In this case the decision strategy is specified to be FirstMatching. 10. Clarify PolicyImplicitVariables. RESOLUTION: Each subclass of PolicyImplicitVariable will identify the exact source of the variable data. For example, there will be a subclass of PolicyImplicitVariable that specifically identifies the IPv4 source address in the outermost packet header. IPv4 and IPv6 addresses will require separate subclasses of PolicyImplicitVariable. We understand the downside of this approach: a potential explosion in the number of subclasses of PolicyImplicitVariable. 11. Clarify PolicyExplicitVariables. NON-RESOLUTION (in PCIMe-01): This issue is still not resolved at all. The authors continue to believe that we need the capability of indicating that a condition should compare against (or an action should set) a particular property in a particular object instance. But we do not believe that the current mechanism of specifying a target object class and property name is sufficient. For the next version of PCIMe, we need to either find a way to make this work in general; or find a way to make it work in some cases, and then describe clearly what these cases are; or remove PolicyExplicitVariables from PCIMe entirely. RESOLUTION (in PCIMe-02): From the list of choices above, we took the path of making explicit variables work in a specific case, and indicating clearly that they work only in this case. See Section 5.8.6 Regards, Bob Bob Moore Advanced Design and Technology Application Integration Middleware Division IBM Software Group +1-919-254-4436 remoore@us.ibm.com _______________________________________________ Policy mailing list Policy@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy