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To receive no more of these send email to nature7813@yahoo.com From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 6 06:06:04 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id GAA07015 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13055 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13040 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hyse.grm.hia.no (hyse.grm.hia.no [128.39.202.21]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3699Sq19097; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hyse.grm.hia.no ([128.39.202.21]) by hyse.grm.hia.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id HWFV4WR2; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:14:01 +0200 Received: from malle.siving.hia.no ([128.39.202.26]) by hyse.grm.hia.no (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001040611140013993 ; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:14:00 +0200 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: IntServ/RSVP delay X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:09:25 +0200 Message-ID: <63AD1AC95D52D311AEB700500483F0006C53C8@malle.siving.hia.no> Thread-Topic: IntServ/RSVP delay Thread-Index: AcC+eUcSWfjuZy+DSKKU8CcaiqTCYg== From: "Frode Trydal" To: "Int-Serv (E-mail)" , "Rsvp (E-mail)" , "Rsvp-Test (E-mail)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zephyr.isi.edu id CAA13044 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I'm testing IntServ and are experiencing something I find very worrying. I'm using Microsoft W2K with GQoS. When measuring delay, I'm not able to get the Controlled Load below 5 ms no matter what while the Best Effort class has a delay of about 1 ms. Have anyone here experienced the same thing or have an explanation/solution for this phenomenon?? Regards Frode Trydal From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 6 07:16:48 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA07446 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA17057 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA17049 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eserver.mail ([211.23.180.166]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f36A04q23211 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:00:04 -0700 (PDT) From: rsvp@ISI.EDU Received: from mail pickup service by eserver.mail with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:06:49 +0800 To: Subject: 1910397 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:06:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_39CF0_01C0BEC4.597CC330" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2001 10:06:49.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B7807B0:01C0BE81] Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_39CF0_01C0BEC4.597CC330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_39CF0_01C0BEC4.597CC330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_39CF0_01C0BEC4.597CC330-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 6 17:26:01 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id RAA20805 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:26:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12128 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12120 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ee.vt.edu (birch.ee.vt.edu [128.173.88.34]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f36KS8q02923; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yew.ee.vt.edu (yew.ee.vt.edu [128.173.88.43]) by birch.ee.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27816; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kphanse@localhost) by yew.ee.vt.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA17218; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:28:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Kaustubh Phanse Reply-To: Kaustubh Phanse To: rsvp-test@ISI.EDU cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Archive for the mailing list?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Is the archive for the RSVP mailing list available anywhere? There is nothing available at: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/rsvp/rsvp.mail which is the site provided on the IETF RSVP charter web page! Thank you regards Kaustubh ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kaustubh S. Phanse kphanse@ee.vt.edu PhD student http://www.ee.vt.edu/~kphanse Alexandria Research Institute Electrical & Computer Engineering Department Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 6 19:15:57 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id TAA22985 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16717 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16712 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lax.isi.edu (lax.isi.edu [128.9.144.88]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f36MHwq18658; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:17:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by lax.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id PAA01359; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104062217.PAA01359@lax.isi.edu> To: kphanse@ee.vt.edu Subject: Re: Archive for the mailing list?? Cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 6 13:32:04 2001 *> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:28:06 -0400 (EDT) *> From: Kaustubh Phanse *> To: rsvp-test@ISI.EDU *> cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Subject: Archive for the mailing list?? *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> *> *> Is the archive for the RSVP mailing list available anywhere? *> There is nothing available at: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/rsvp/rsvp.mail *> which is the site provided on the IETF RSVP charter web page! *> The 2001 archive has been broken since 1/1/2001. SInce there has been negligible traffic on this list since then, I have not given very high priority to fixing it. The previous years should all be available. Bob Braden *> Thank you *> regards *> Kaustubh *> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *> Kaustubh S. Phanse kphanse@ee.vt.edu *> PhD student http://www.ee.vt.edu/~kphanse *> Alexandria Research Institute *> Electrical & Computer Engineering Department *> Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University *> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *> *> *> *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 9 01:27:31 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id BAA19964 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21731 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21726 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f394Jvq24198 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75M8S>; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:50:31 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E674C@BRAHMA01> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Hi Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:50:30 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , I have following queries : 1. What is the use of TTL field in RSVP message . 2. What exactly is meant service preemption in the following sentence Is it the preemption of RSVP deamon . A teardown request may be initiated either by an application in an end system (sender or receiver), or by a router as the result of state timeout or service preemption. Thanks , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 9 08:20:10 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id IAA04099 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07460 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 04:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07454 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 04:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f39BGOq28341 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 04:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75NZ5>; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:47:00 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71FF01F@BRAHMA01> From: Khuzema Pithewan To: "'rsvp@ISI.EDU'" Subject: Why routing... Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:46:55 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi, Can somebody explain, why rsvp requires routing support from the system? Few things I can mark is.. 1. It requires PATH mesg to send to receiver as a ultimate sender. 2. It requires TTL to decrement. but these things can be done by setting socket option SO_HDRINCL, which provides a facility to user to send an IP Packet.. can somebody explain, what are the other reason which needs rsvp to obtain routing support from system. Thanks in Advance, Khuzema ------------------------------------------------ Net Brahma Technologies Private Limited Internext Networking Software A Microland Group Company 777, 3rd 'a' cross, 18th Main Koramangala VI th block Bangalore-95 Phone no.s - (080) 5521451 / 5525011 / 5525012 Fax no - (080) 5537233 email : khuzemap@netbrahma.com www.netbrahma.com From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 9 13:21:32 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA12246 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21282 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21276 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f39GR8q28833; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id QAA00804; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:27:08 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:27:08 GMT Message-Id: <200104091627.QAA00804@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, ManojA@netbrahma.com Subject: Re: Hi X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sun Apr 8 21:28:53 2001 *> From: Manoj Agiwal *> To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" *> Subject: Hi *> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:50:30 +0530 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> *> Hi , *> I have following queries : *> 1. What is the use of TTL field in RSVP message . *> See the last paragraph of section 3.8 of rfc 2205. *> 2. What exactly is meant service preemption in the following sentence *> Is it the preemption of RSVP deamon . *> A teardown request may be initiated either by an application in *> an *> end system (sender or receiver), or by a router as the result of *> state timeout or service preemption. *> See the 2nd paragraph of section 2.5 of rfc 2205. Bob Braden *> Thanks , *> Manoj *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 01:18:32 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id BAA26388 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05157 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05152 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3A4Miq21002 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75PLZ>; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:53:19 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E6751@BRAHMA01> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Refresh Messages Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:53:15 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , From where can refresh messages be initiated ? Does PATH refresh messages gets initiated at each RSVP node after refresh timeout ? In such a case will Refresh PATH messages getting initiated at each RSVP node will travel downstream with source IP as that of RSVP node and Dest IP as that of Receiver . Does RESV refresh messages also gets initiated at each RSVP node . Each RESV messages travel hop by hop , with Destination picked up from PHOP and Is source IP the local IP of the RSVP node . Thanks , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 02:39:02 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA08837 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA11096 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA11088 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3A5pRq28931 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75PTC>; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:22:02 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E6752@BRAHMA01> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Local Only Flag Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:21:56 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , What is Local Only Flag used for ??? When is this particular flag updated or checked . Thanks , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 03:50:44 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id DAA09446 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17964 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17958 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3A70iq04506 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75PYY>; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:31:14 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D7062A82@BRAHMA01> From: Madhusudhan M To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Please change the header Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:31:12 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi Whenever some reply is sent to a mail mailed to the list,the "reply to" is set to the sender only.It would be very useful for all the list members if it is set to the "list" itself as everybody would get the copy of the mail.This would be useful for any other person who might be facing a similar problem.So i request the owner of the List to please look into it Regards Madhusudhan.M Net Brahma Technologies Internext Networking Software A Microland Group Venture madhusudhanm@netbrahma.com www.netbrahma.com Tel : 91.80. 552 1451 Extn 216 Fax : 91.80. 553 7233 From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 04:58:39 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA09880 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 04:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20619 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20612 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay1.alcatel.be (alc119.alcatel.be [195.207.101.119]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3A7qQq09051 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Bemail06.net.alcatel.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay1.alcatel.be (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f3A7qF716280 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:52:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sh.bel.alcatel.be ([138.203.193.186]) by Bemail06.net.alcatel.be (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) with SMTP id C1256A2A.002B340E; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:51:53 +0200 Message-ID: <3AD2BB47.B3385B79@sh.bel.alcatel.be> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:50:32 +0200 From: Axel Hoebeke Organization: Alcatel Telecom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: unknown object class Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I read in RFC 2205 that they are 3 possible ways to treat an object with unknown class. This choice is determined by the two high-order bits of the Class-Num octet. My question is related to the third case: - Class-Num = 11bbbbbb The node should ignore the object but forward it, unexamined and unmodified, in all messages resulting from this message. What should the node do if it is not possible to forward it (eg: it is the destination node). ?? SHOULD (MUST ?) the node reject the entire message and sent a error message back ?? Thanks in Advance, Axel From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 05:02:50 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA09932 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 05:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA21630 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21622 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3A8Bfq10717 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75P79>; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:42:17 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71FF024@BRAHMA01> From: Khuzema Pithewan To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: RSVP PATH Mesg Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:42:10 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi, whenever a RSVP Node receives a PATH mesg, according to specification what I understand is, it will send the PATH Refresh Mesg downstream only when its TSpec differs from the corresponding existing PSB(whose (session,sender_spec) pair matches) and when it creates a new PSB(in case of new sender). But I wondering, if in case sender has not changed its TSpec, then the receiving RSVP Node will not pass on the PATH Mesg to the RSVP Nodes downstream and the path states in those will get timeout. Can somebody explain this scenario.. Khuzema. ------------------------------------------------ Net Brahma Technologies Private Limited Internext Networking Software A Microland Group Company 777, 3rd 'a' cross, 18th Main Koramangala VI th block Bangalore-95 Phone no.s - (080) 5521451 / 5525011 / 5525012 Fax no - (080) 5537233 email : khuzemap@netbrahma.com www.netbrahma.com From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 12:32:04 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA19935 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16429 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16424 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3AFVCq19776; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:31:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id PAA01351; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:31:12 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:31:12 GMT Message-Id: <200104101531.PAA01351@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, ManojA@netbrahma.com Subject: Re: Local Only Flag X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 9 22:54:03 2001 *> From: Manoj Agiwal *> To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" *> Subject: Local Only Flag *> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:21:56 +0530 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> *> Hi , *> What is Local Only Flag used for ??? When is this particular flag *> updated *> or checked . *> Thanks , *> Manoj *> Please see section 3.9 of RFC 2205. Bob Braden From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 12:32:38 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA19953 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16648 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16641 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3AFYaq20228; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:34:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id PAA01358; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:34:36 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:34:36 GMT Message-Id: <200104101534.PAA01358@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, MadhusudhanM@netbrahma.com Subject: Re: Please change the header X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 00:02:51 2001 *> From: Madhusudhan M *> To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" *> Subject: Please change the header *> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:31:12 +0530 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> *> Hi *> Whenever some reply is sent to a mail mailed to the list,the "reply to" is *> set to the sender only. If so, you are using a deficient email user agent. A competant agent allows the choice of replying to only the sender or to all addressees. And this has been true since 1975, I might add. You would think that after 25 years of practice, we could get it right. Bob Braden *> *> Regards *> *> Madhusudhan.M *> Net Brahma Technologies *> Internext Networking Software *> A Microland Group Venture *> madhusudhanm@netbrahma.com *> www.netbrahma.com *> Tel : 91.80. 552 1451 Extn 216 *> Fax : 91.80. 553 7233 *> *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 12:34:56 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA20014 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16910 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16905 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3AFbBq20421; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id PAA01361; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:37:11 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:37:11 GMT Message-Id: <200104101537.PAA01361@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, hoebekea@sh.bel.alcatel.be Subject: Re: unknown object class X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 00:53:27 2001 *> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:50:32 +0200 *> From: Axel Hoebeke *> X-Accept-Language: en *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Subject: unknown object class *> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *> *> Hi, *> *> I read in RFC 2205 that they are 3 possible ways to treat an object *> with unknown class. This choice is determined by the two high-order *> bits of the Class-Num octet. *> *> My question is related to the third case: *> - Class-Num = 11bbbbbb *> The node should ignore the object but forward it, *> unexamined and unmodified, in all messages resulting *> from this message. *> *> What should the node do if it is not possible to forward it (eg: it is *> the destination node). ?? *> SHOULD (MUST ?) the node reject the entire message and sent a error *> message back ?? *> That would certainly violate the Principle of Least Astonishment. If the message has reached the receiver and the receiver does not recognize the object, it should (of course!) just ignore it. RFC 2205 did not use capital letters here. Bob Braden *> Thanks in Advance, *> Axel *> *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 12:54:20 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA20895 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:54:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17907 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17902 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolfe.bbn.com (WOLFE.BBN.COM [128.89.2.232]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3AFrqq22689 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolfe.bbn.com (localhost.127.in-addr.arpa [127.0.0.1]) by wolfe.bbn.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA16256 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104101554.LAA16256@wolfe.bbn.com> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Off-topic Re: Please change the header In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:34:36 GMT." <200104101534.PAA01358@gra.isi.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:54:14 -0400 From: Joel B Levin Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk }If so, you are using a deficient email user agent. A competant agent }allows the choice of replying to only the sender or to all addressees. }And this has been true since 1975, I might add. You would think }that after 25 years of practice, we could get it right. The original questioner is undoubtedly accustomed to the typical current-day web-based (free) list services, many if not most of which include a "Reply-to: " in the headers. It has gotten so I must always double check the headers when replying to a mailing list message (not a bad thing to do in any case) since a normal "reply" seems to do the opposite of what I want. /JBL From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 13:31:13 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA21746 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23019 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22995 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.streamcenter.com (mail.streamcenter.com [63.126.225.141]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3AGn9q01198; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from streamcenter.com ([63.126.225.100]) by mail.streamcenter.com (8.11.0/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3AGn1521039; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:49:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3AD33977.4040901@streamcenter.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:48:55 -0400 From: ravi narayan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010323 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Braden CC: rsvp@ISI.EDU, MadhusudhanM@netbrahma.com Subject: Re: Please change the header References: <200104101534.PAA01358@gra.isi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Braden wrote: > *> From: Madhusudhan M > *> > *> Whenever some reply is sent to a mail mailed to the list,the "reply to" is > *> set to the sender only. > > If so, you are using a deficient email user agent. A competant agent > allows the choice of replying to only the sender or to all addressees. > And this has been true since 1975, I might add. You would think > that after 25 years of practice, we could get it right. > i think the important thing to point out is probably that [it seems] the rsvp list server does not add any reply-to: header, in which case a "reply all" should behave as bob suggests above (of course list members may be used to pressing just "reply" for email and not remember to do the "reply all"). if there is a "reply-to:" header rfc822 *recommends* that it be honored: relevant part of rfc822: -------------- o If the "Reply-To" field exists, then the reply should go to the addresses indicated in that field and not to the address(es) indicated in the "From" field. o If there is a "From" field, but no "Reply-To" field, the reply should be sent to the address(es) indicated in the "From" field. This recommendation is intended only for automated use of originator-fields and is not intended to suggest that replies may not also be sent to other recipients of messages. It is up to the respective mail-handling programs to decide what additional facilities will be provided. -------------- i am aware of further SMTP RFC work and rfc1123 issues, but i think the above continues to hold. apologies for utter lack of relevance of this message to RSVP, --ravi From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 14:19:36 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA22778 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27020 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27015 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3AHTAq08788; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id RAA01469; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:29:10 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:29:10 GMT Message-Id: <200104101729.RAA01469@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, ManojA@netbrahma.com Subject: Re: Refresh Messages X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 9 21:27:37 2001 *> From: Manoj Agiwal *> To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" *> Subject: Refresh Messages *> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:53:15 +0530 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> *> Hi , *> From where can refresh messages be initiated ? *> Everywhere. *> Does PATH refresh messages gets initiated at each RSVP node after *> refresh timeout ? *> Yes. *> In such a case will Refresh PATH messages getting initiated at each *> RSVP node will travel downstream with source IP as that of RSVP *> node *> and Dest IP as that of Receiver . Yes. *> *> Does RESV refresh messages also gets initiated at each RSVP node . *> Each RESV messages travel hop by hop , with Destination picked up *> from PHOP and Is source IP the local IP of the RSVP node . Yes. *> Thanks , *> Manoj *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 14:19:46 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA22792 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27219 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27213 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3AHUcq09296; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:30:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id RAA01472; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:30:38 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:30:38 GMT Message-Id: <200104101730.RAA01472@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, KhuzemaP@netbrahma.com Subject: Re: RSVP PATH Mesg X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 01:13:06 2001 *> From: Khuzema Pithewan *> To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" *> Subject: RSVP PATH Mesg *> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:42:10 +0530 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> *> Hi, *> *> whenever a RSVP Node receives a PATH mesg, according to specification what I *> understand is, it will send the PATH Refresh Mesg downstream only when its *> TSpec differs from the corresponding existing PSB(whose *> (session,sender_spec) pair matches) and when it creates a new PSB(in case of *> new sender). But I wondering, if in case sender has not changed its TSpec, *> then the receiving RSVP Node will not pass on the PATH Mesg to the RSVP *> Nodes downstream and the path states in those will get timeout. *> Each node will independently generate Path refreshes to the downstream nodes; each such refresh will travel just one hop. Bob Braden From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 16:46:27 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id QAA25870 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09972 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09966 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3AJtsq02137 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who ([12.88.96.245]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010410195546.QVLM21649.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@who> for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:55:46 +0000 From: "Gregg C Levine" To: "Rsvp" Subject: RE: Off-topic Re: Please change the header Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:55:51 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200104101554.LAA16256@wolfe.bbn.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers I think I will second the original posters' comments, and agree with both of you. Especially since I needed to double check the header setting for this message. No, guys do not change a thing. This setup works for me. ------------------- Gregg C Levine mailto:hansolofalcon@att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi (Perhaps one of the most powerful of all of the Jedi Knights)) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda (Perhaps the other one of the most powerful of all of the Jedi Knights)) And the favorite line by Anonymous "May the Force be with you." > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU [mailto:owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU]On > Behalf Of Joel B > Levin > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:54 AM > To: rsvp@ISI.EDU > Subject: Off-topic Re: Please change the header > > > }If so, you are using a deficient email user agent. A > competant agent > }allows the choice of replying to only the sender or to all > addressees. > }And this has been true since 1975, I might add. You would think > }that after 25 years of practice, we could get it right. > > The original questioner is undoubtedly accustomed to the typical > current-day web-based (free) list services, many if not > most of which > include a "Reply-to: " in the headers. It has > gotten so I must always double check the headers when replying to a > mailing list message (not a bad thing to do in any case) since a > normal "reply" seems to do the opposite of what I want. > > /JBL > From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 10 17:26:35 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id RAA26370 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12953 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12942 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33] (may be forged)) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f3AKaFq07813; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calypso.cis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa00743; 10 Apr 2001 16:34 EDT Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:34:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Constantinos Dovrolis To: Constantinos Dovrolis Subject: ICNP 2001 - CFP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PAPERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9th International Conference on Network Protocols (ICNP 2001) Mission Inn, Riverside, California November 11-14, 2001 http://www.cis.udel.edu/icnp2001/ In just eight years, ICNP has established itself as one of the premier conferences in the computer networking field. 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If you have any questions, you can contact us at icnp@ics.uci.edu. To register and submit your paper, visit the URL: http://violin.ics.uci.edu/~icnp/ConfMan/REG-paper/ General Chair Satish K. Tripathi, University of California - Riverside Technical Program Co-Chairs Magda El Zarki, University of California, Irvine Klara Narhstedt, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign Tutorial Co-Chairs Pravin Bhagwat, ReefEdge, Inc Ed Knightly, Rice University Local Arrangement and Registration Co-Chairs Michalis Faloutsos, University of California - Riverside Srikant Krishnamurthy, University of California - Riverside Publicity Co-Chairs Constantinos Dovrolis, University of Delaware Samar Singh, La Trobe University, Australia Technical Program Committee Alex Petrenko (CRIM, Computer Research Institute of Montreal) Ana Rosa CAVALLI (Institut National des Telecommunications, France) Mart, Molle (University of California, Riverside) Andrew T. 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(Mike) Liu, Ohio State University Raymond Miller, University of Maryland, College Park Krishan Sabnani, Bell Labs From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Apr 12 02:56:44 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA24012 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 02:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12576 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12571 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3C5iaq22756 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75T3N>; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:15:06 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E6759@BRAHMA01> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: NHOP field in RESV message Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:15:04 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , In the RESV message format there is a field NHOP . Functional Specs says " There is an additional rule governing the forwarding of Resv messages: state from Resv messages received from outgoing interface Io should be forwarded to incoming interface Ii only if Path messages from Ii are forwarded to Io." The Message specs says " For a unicast destination, OutInterface_list contains one entry and IncInterface is undefined." Is NHOP of relevance in case of multicast only , if yes Why ? What can happen if we pass the RESV message from some other interface in comparison to interface on which we receive PATH message ? Will it again vary from unicast to multicast environment as the Inc Interface is undefined in case of unicast . Even if we pass on RESV message on some other outgoing interface i.e. other than from which we receive PATH message then also we are passing LIH along with the NHOP which will identify the link on which reservation has to be made . 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X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Apr 12 01:58:25 2001 *> From: Manoj Agiwal *> To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" *> Subject: Router Forwarding skip . *> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:24:45 +0530 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> *> Hi , *> When RSVP messages are forwarded do we skip the routing *> forwarding at Netwrok Layer ? If yes does this happen for both Multicast and *> Unicast . *> Regards , *> Manoj *> For multicast sessions, the RSVP spec requires that normal kernel forwarding be bypassed, as suggested under "Outgoing Link Specification" in section 3.11.5 of RFC 2205. This is probably not required in the unicast case. The ISI implementation chose to bypass kernel routing in both cases to avoid having distinctly different logic for multicast and unicast. This may have been somewhat academic. Bob Braden From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 13 04:22:12 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA03416 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 04:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19567 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19562 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3D7Vqq15673 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F754W7>; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:02:21 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E675E@BRAHMA01> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Making Reservations Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:02:18 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , In RFC 2205 with reference to following lines Section 3.9 Making Reservations "when application is executing on a router and the session is multicast, a more complex situation arises. Suppose in this case that a receiver application joins the group on an interface Iapp that differs from Isp, the shortest-path interface to the sender. Then there are two possible ways for multicast routing to deliver data packets to the application. " In the first possible way it says that 1. Multicast routing protocol may create a seperate branch of multicast distribution tree to deliver to Iapp . My query is , does this happen only in case if the application is residing on a router ?? Why a seperate branch of multicast distribution tree is created in this case even though there is a shortest path to sender via Isp . 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Thanks. nini 4/16 ______________________________________ =================================================================== From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 16 04:36:13 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA01649 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 04:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA23348 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23342 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3G7gEq20227 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75WJX>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:12:38 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E6765@BRAHMA01> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: path message processing Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:12:38 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , In RFC 2209 RSVP Message Processing ,In Section 2 Processing Rules with reference to Path Message , Point No. 3 under the following lines :: > If the PSB is new or if there is no route change notification in place, then perform the following routing manipulations, but not if the cPSB is from the local API. which says ... 3. If the destination is multicast and Rt_InIf is the same as IncInterface in the cPSB, but fPSB does not point to the cPSB, then do the following. At this point of processing fPSB is already NULL , then why there is a mention that out interface list is picked up from fPSB . > Copy into the cPSB the OutInterface_list from the PSB, if any, pointed to by fPSB. Clear OutInterface_list and turn on the Local_Only flag in the PSB pointed to by fPSB, if any. Thanks , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 16 11:11:41 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA05787 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA10395 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10389 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3GE7Gq21003 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75XA4>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:37:40 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71FF053@BRAHMA01> From: Khuzema Pithewan To: "'rsvp@ISI.EDU'" Subject: Scope Object Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:37:39 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi, Does the SCOPE Object in RESV mesg contains the list of PHOPS or ultimate sender?? Khuzema. ------------------------------------------------ Net Brahma Technologies Private Limited Internext Networking Software A Microland Group Company 777, 3rd 'a' cross, 18th Main Koramangala VI th block Bangalore-95 Phone no.s - (080) 5521451 / 5525011 / 5525012 Ext. 232 Fax no - (080) 5537233 email : khuzemap@netbrahma.com www.netbrahma.com From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 16 12:52:14 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA08212 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15198 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15192 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3GFofq02119; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:50:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id PAA04104; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:50:41 GMT Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:50:41 GMT Message-Id: <200104161550.PAA04104@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, KhuzemaP@netbrahma.com Subject: Re: Scope Object X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 16 07:09:46 2001 *> From: Khuzema Pithewan *> To: "'rsvp@ISI.EDU'" *> Subject: Scope Object *> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:37:39 +0530 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> *> Hi, *> *> Does the SCOPE Object in RESV mesg contains the list of PHOPS or ultimate *> sender?? *> Section 3.4 of RFC 2205, the last paragraph of p. 51, says "...an explicit sender address list in a SCOPE object". It means what it says. Bob Braden *> Khuzema. *> ------------------------------------------------ *> Net Brahma Technologies Private Limited *> Internext Networking Software *> A Microland Group Company *> 777, 3rd 'a' cross, 18th Main *> Koramangala VI th block *> Bangalore-95 *> Phone no.s - (080) 5521451 / 5525011 / 5525012 Ext. 232 *> Fax no - (080) 5537233 *> email : khuzemap@netbrahma.com *> www.netbrahma.com *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 17 01:29:04 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id BAA22742 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA26773 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26764 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3H4e7q28594 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75XS0>; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:10:29 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E676D@BRAHMA01> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Reservation Style Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:10:21 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , 1. Do we have the same style for all the senders in a given session . Will it be true for unicast as well as multicast ? 2. Can we have SE / FF / WF in case of unicast sessions . Though I suppose in case of unicast FF style will be used most of the times . Thanks , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 17 02:17:20 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA03579 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA29109 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29104 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3H5Fuq01780 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75XVZ>; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:46:20 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D70A21FC@BRAHMA01> From: Ratnakar Pai To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Timers in RSVP Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:46:12 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , I have a few queries about timers implemented in RSVP #1 Do we require to set the PATH Refresh Timer only if the local_only flag is off? #2 Where should the Refresh Timeout for PSB and RSB be stored ? is it in the Session (for both PSB and RSB corresponding to it) ? #3 When a PATH message arrives a. Is the Refresh Time(R) copied from the Time Values obj to the PSB? b. Is The Refresh Timer setup with the Timeout R? c. in order to calculate the new interval(if applicable), when this timer times out, a random number between 0.5R and 1.5R is used as the interval ? d. and when the refresh message is sent the Time Value object is set with a value = 1+SlewRate*R(from the PSB). ? Thanks, Ratnakar From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 17 04:06:12 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA04294 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA04535 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA04530 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3H77pq11901 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F75X9C>; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:38:16 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E676E@BRAHMA01> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Path Message Processing Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:38:09 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , In the path message processing it sets an activeRSB after matching it with Sender Template and Outgoing Interface . What does active RSB means here ?? What are the actions in case if we find a matching RSB . > 3. Search for any matching reservation state, i.e., an > RSB whose Filter_spec_list includes a FILTER_SPEC > matching the SENDER_TEMPLATE and whose OI appears in > the OutInterface_list, and make this the `active RSB'. Thanks , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 17 05:43:14 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA04719 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA08279 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08274 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fsnt.future.futsoft.com ([203.197.140.35]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3H8g7q20033 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kailash.future.futsoft.com (unverified) by fsnt.future.futsoft.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:20:03 +0530 Received: from narayananl (narayananl.future.futsoft.com [192.168.7.9]) by kailash.future.futsoft.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3H8ghW17005; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:12:43 +0530 Reply-To: From: "Lakshminarayanan R" To: "'Manoj Agiwal'" Cc: Subject: RE: Path Message Processing Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:15:10 +0530 Message-Id: <000d01c0c71a$b6a026c0$0907a8c0@future.futsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E676E@BRAHMA01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsvp@isi.edu [mailto:owner-rsvp@isi.edu] On Behalf Of Manoj Agiwal Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2001 12:38 PM To: 'rsvp@isi.edu' Subject: Path Message Processing Hi , In the path message processing it sets an activeRSB after matching it with Sender Template and Outgoing Interface . What does active RSB means here ?? the current reservation in place What are the actions in case if we find a matching RSB . the TC should be updated > 3. Search for any matching reservation state, i.e., an > RSB whose Filter_spec_list includes a FILTER_SPEC > matching the SENDER_TEMPLATE and whose OI appears in > the OutInterface_list, and make this the `active RSB'. Thanks , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 17 16:28:05 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id QAA16119 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13641 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13636 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3HJc9q09075 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:38:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id TAA19119 for rsvp; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:38:09 GMT Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:38:09 GMT Message-Id: <200104171938.TAA19119@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Protocol Action: RSVP Reservations Aggregation to Proposed Standard X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk ----- Begin Included Message ----- From \rfc-ed@ISI.EDU Tue Apr 17 12:19:55 2001 To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: RFC Editor Cc: Internet Architecture Board Cc: issll@mercury.lcs.mit.edu From: The IESG Subject: Protocol Action: RSVP Reservations Aggregation to Proposed Standard Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:19:44 -0400 The IESG has approved the Internet-Draft 'RSVP Reservations Aggregation' as a Proposed Standard. This document is the product of the Integrated Services over Specific Link Layers Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Allison Mankin and Scott Bradner. Technical Summary This document describes the use of a single RSVP reservation to aggregate other RSVP reservations across a transit routing region, in a manner conceptually similar to the use of Virtual Paths in an ATM network. It provides a way to dynamically create the aggregate reservation, classify the traffic for which the aggregate reservation applies, determine how much bandwidth is needed to achieve the requirement, and recover the bandwidth when the sub-reservations are no longer required. It also contains recommendations concerning algorithms and policies for predictive reservations. The document addresses both intra- and inter-domain unicast routes and multicast resrevations. Working Group Summary The working group supported progressing this document. Protocol Quality The proposal was reviewed for the IETF by Allison Mankin. ----- End Included Message ----- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Apr 18 06:13:53 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id GAA08802 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29019 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29013 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from company.f-it.net ([202.67.245.25]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3I9H2k17940 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alex [202.67.245.11] by company.f-it.net (SMTPD32-6.00) id A84C4610134; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:39:08 +0800 To: customer@ISI.EDU From: FOREST@ISI.EDU Subject: 眤呼跑眔弘眒-How to make website more attractive Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:41:08 +0800 Message-Id: <36984.778573263887700.4576090@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; 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Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19985 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19980 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3J53Sk02754 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F7558P>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:33:43 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D7318074@BRAHMA01> From: Madhusudhan M To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Scope Object Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:33:42 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi According to the RFC, the scope object contains the lists of FilterSpecs( SENDER_TEMPLATE ) of all the senders to whom the RESV message has to be sent. In the code, To form the scope object before sending the RESV_REFRESH message, it checks the "InScope" flag in the PSB. If it is on, that perticular senderTemplate is included in the scope object Before doing this, to set the "InScope" flag of the PSB, he compares the PHOP field of the PSB with the entries in the scope object that he has got from the RESV message. But the entries in the scope object will have the address of the Ultimate sender. Then why is he doing this? Regards Madhusudhan.M Net Brahma Technologies Internext Networking Software A Microland Group Venture madhusudhanm@netbrahma.com www.netbrahma.com Tel : 91.80. 552 1451 Extn 216 Fax : 91.80. 553 7233 From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Apr 19 04:50:32 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA08885 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA26806 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA26801 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3J7g2k21723 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F756J6>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:12:23 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D70A2207@BRAHMA01> From: Ratnakar Pai To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Path State in the end Host Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:12:22 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi, Consider the Situation: There is a host on a broadcast lan which is the only member of a multicast group. Now when another host on the same LAN joins the mulicast group , there is a mention that the host will already have a path state in place . This would mean that all the hosts on the same LAN will be having Path state in place . But why does this happen is not clear . As per to my understanding process running on a host informs the network device drivers that it wishes to be a member of a specified group . The device driver maps the IP multicast address to a physical multicast address which will enable the reception of packets for that address . The single Physical address will be mapped to 32 IP multicast addresses in case of Ethernet LAN . Please take us out of dillema ..... Rantkar ... From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Apr 19 09:25:00 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id JAA10718 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA16885 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16863 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3JCJIk23313; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <23F7565W>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:49:39 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71FF063@BRAHMA01> From: Khuzema Pithewan To: "'isi-rsvp@isi.edu'" Cc: "'rsvp@ISI.EDU'" , "'rsvp-test@isi.edu'" Subject: probable bug!! Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:49:38 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi, While going through code I found following inconsistency.. while preparing resv refresh message it calculates the scope for wild card style by comparing the phop addresses of each PSB in list with the scope addresses of already existing RSB. if it matches it turns on the InScope flag in the PSB. Here is the part of form_scope_union() function:- for (rp = destp->d_RSB_list; rp != NULL; rp = rp->rs_next) { for (sp = destp->d_PSB_list ; sp != NULL; sp = sp->ps_next) { if (IsHopAPI(&sp->ps_phop)) continue; if (rp->rs_scope) { /* * Merge scope list into scope union, by turning * on scope bit in each matching PSB that is not * local API. (Doing linear search of PSBs, but * could use hash table) */ if (hop_in_scope(&sp->ps_phop, rp->rs_scope)) sp->ps_flags |= PSBF_InScope; and while actually sending the resv message it construct the scope by concatenating all the sender templates' addresses of the PSBs whose In scope flag was turned on earlier..Here is the part of code from resv_refresh_PSB() which does this.. case STYLE_WF: flwdp->rsvp_specp = max_specp; flwdp->rsvp_filtp = NULL; pkt->rsvp_nflwd = 1; /* * If this sender has scope bit on, add this * sender host to the outgoing SCOPE list. */ if (sp->ps_flags & PSBF_InScope) scope_catf(&mapp->rsvp_scope_list, sp->ps_templ); break; so as per my understanding this is inconsistency in turing ON the InScope flag by comparing the PHOP Addresses in place of Sender Template address... I think its bug!! Can somebody clarify this, please respond back. Thanks, Khuzema. ------------------------------------------------ Net Brahma Technologies Private Limited Internext Networking Software A Microland Group Company 777, 3rd 'a' cross, 18th Main Koramangala VI th block Bangalore-95 Phone no.s - (080) 5521451 / 5525011 / 5525012 Ext. 232 Fax no - (080) 5537233 email : khuzemap@netbrahma.com www.netbrahma.com From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Apr 19 23:07:16 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id XAA23135 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16828 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16823 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp [202.247.6.41]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3K24mk11727 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.195]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01041220) with ESMTP id LAA22469 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:04:44 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id LAA21718 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:04:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv.ncos.nec.co.jp (mailsv.ncos.nec.co.jp [10.40.16.2]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id LAA16310 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:04:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from ne2p2033.neg2.ncos.nec.co.jp by mailsv.ncos.nec.co.jp (8.11.1/3.7Wpl2-20001121) id f3K245J14253; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:04:05 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:04:04 +0900 From: Shuji Ebisu To: "'rsvp@ISI.EDU'" Subject: Re: probable bug!! In-Reply-To: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71FF063@BRAHMA01> References: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71FF063@BRAHMA01> Message-Id: <20010420105500.C6CC.EBISU@ncos.nec.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.03 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:49:38 +0530 Khuzema Pithewan wrote: >Hi, > >While going through code I found following inconsistency.. > >while preparing resv refresh message it calculates the scope for wild card >style by comparing the phop addresses of each PSB in list with the scope >addresses of already existing RSB. if it matches it turns on the InScope >flag in the PSB. > >Here is the part of form_scope_union() function:- > > >for (rp = destp->d_RSB_list; rp != NULL; rp = rp->rs_next) { > for (sp = destp->d_PSB_list ; sp != NULL; sp = sp->ps_next) { > if (IsHopAPI(&sp->ps_phop)) > continue; > if (rp->rs_scope) { > /* > * Merge scope list into scope union, by >turning > * on scope bit in each matching PSB that is >not > * local API. (Doing linear search of PSBs, but > > * could use hash table) > */ Maybe... --------- < if (hop_in_scope(&sp->ps_phop, rp->rs_scope)) --------- > if (!(filterspec_in_scope(sp->ps_templ, rp->rs_scope) <0)) --------- > sp->ps_flags |= PSBF_InScope; > > > and while actually sending the resv message it construct the scope by >concatenating all the sender templates' addresses of the PSBs whose In scope >flag was turned on earlier..Here is the part of code from resv_refresh_PSB() >which does this.. > > case STYLE_WF: > flwdp->rsvp_specp = max_specp; > flwdp->rsvp_filtp = NULL; > pkt->rsvp_nflwd = 1; > /* > * If this sender has scope bit on, add this > * sender host to the outgoing SCOPE list. > */ > if (sp->ps_flags & PSBF_InScope) > scope_catf(&mapp->rsvp_scope_list, >sp->ps_templ); > break; > > >so as per my understanding this is inconsistency in turing ON the InScope >flag by comparing the PHOP Addresses in place of Sender Template address... > >I think its bug!! >Can somebody clarify this, please respond back. > >Thanks, >Khuzema. > > > >------------------------------------------------ >Net Brahma Technologies Private Limited >Internext Networking Software >A Microland Group Company >777, 3rd 'a' cross, 18th Main >Koramangala VI th block >Bangalore-95 >Phone no.s - (080) 5521451 / 5525011 / 5525012 Ext. 232 >Fax no - (080) 5537233 >email : khuzemap@netbrahma.com >www.netbrahma.com ----------- Shuji Ebisu From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 20 14:46:50 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA16267 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10034 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10029 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jerry (22.c143.ethome.net.tw [202.178.143.22]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f3KHeGk09702; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104201740.f3KHeGk09702@tnt.isi.edu> From: alice@come.tw To: New-tw@ISI.EDU Cc: TW@ISI.EDU Subject: =?big5?Q?=A4@=A9]=B1=A1=A5=E6=A4=CD(=A7=B9=A5=FE=A6X=AAk=A5B=A7K=B6O)?= X-Mailer: hcF1bK1junJxVz5wjm62F42 Content-Type: text/plain; X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by zephyr.isi.edu id KAA10030 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi 稱璶ユね盾?琌ネ伴び临琌び甡槽㎡? 硂柑ΤЧ禣ユね呼. ╧狟ね,薄,盉ね,盞ね,┦攀 羆Τ禬筁10窾Τ酚穦琵匡翅 翴琌Ч禣.ぃ穦穕アヴ窥 ее http://guest.asiafriendfinder.com/cgi-bin/w3com/starturl?/jumpers/p4267.html From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sat Apr 21 19:42:34 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id TAA12858 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01270 for rsvp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01265 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icanserver1.ican.com.tw (h41-210-243-219.ican.com.tw [210.243.219.41] (may be forged)) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3LMxYP18028 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ican.com.tw ([163.32.204.136]) by icanserver1.ican.com.tw with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Sun, 22 Apr 2001 06:59:25 +0800 From: "v2350" To: "" Subject: Fw:禬DVD纔磃疭芥 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 06:57:01 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 22:59:28.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7E76DF0:01C0CAB6] Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by zephyr.isi.edu id PAB01270 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =B6W=A4Z=B1=A1=A6=E2dvd=A4=A4=A4=DF
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What will be the flow descriptor in case RESVERR happens because of failure in admission control in case of SE / FF/ WF . Will it contain the same flow descriptor as in RESV message in case of SE and WF . while in case of FF the flow descriptor it will the Filter / Flow Specs because of which the admission control failed . 2. What will be the value of Inplace bit in the RESVERR , in case of SE / FF / WF ?? Is it anyway dependent on style of reservation . Regards , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Apr 23 20:54:22 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id UAA15564 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22224 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22219 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ISI.EDU (jet.isi.edu [128.9.160.87]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3NNtR515209; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104232355.f3NNtR515209@boreas.isi.edu> To: IETF-Announce: ; Subject: RFC 2961 on RSVP Refresh Overhead Reduction Extensions Cc: rfc-ed@ISI.EDU, rsvp@ISI.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=NextPart Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:55:26 -0700 From: RFC Editor Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk --NextPart A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 2961 Title: RSVP Refresh Overhead Reduction Extensions Author(s): L. Berger, D. Gan, G. Swallow, P. Pan, F. Tommasi, S. Molendini Status: Standards Track Date: April 2001 Mailbox: lberger@labn.net, dhg@juniper.net, swallow@cisco.com, pingpan@juniper.net, franco.tommasi@unile.it, molendini@ultra5.unile.it Pages: 34 Characters: 81675 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rsvp-refresh-reduct-05.txt URL: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc2961.txt This document describes a number of mechanisms that can be used to reduce processing overhead requirements of refresh messages, eliminate the state synchronization latency incurred when an RSVP (Resource ReserVation Protocol) message is lost and, when desired, refreshing state without the transmission of whole refresh messages. The same extensions also support reliable RSVP message delivery on a per hop basis. These extension present no backwards compatibility issues. 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RFC 3097 Title: RSVP Cryptographic Authentication -- Updated Message Type Value Author(s): R. Braden, L. Zhang Status: Standards Track Date: April 2001 Mailbox: Braden@ISI.EDU, lixia@cs.ucla.edu Pages: 4 Characters: 6320 Updates: 2747 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rsvp-fix-iana-00.txt URL: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3097.txt This memo resolves a duplication in the assignment of RSVP Message Types, by changing the Message Types assigned by RFC 2747 to Challenge and Integrity Response messages. This document is a product of the Resource Reservation Setup Protocol Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the "Internet Official Protocol Standards" (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. 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Admission control is part of Traffic Control module which link dependent . Does Traffic Control provides an interface for query of Admission control . What is the clear boundary line between RSVP and Traffic Control . Thanks , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 27 04:11:12 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA18727 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 04:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA01697 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01690 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3R75MP19007 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BRAHMA01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:35:24 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E6791@BRAHMA01> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Merging of Flow Specs . Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:35:23 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , Can we merge flow specs by traversing thru RSB rather than TCSB . Thanks , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Apr 27 08:39:39 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id IAA26429 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18250 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 04:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18245 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 04:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from david.ttt.bme.hu (david.ttt.bme.hu [152.66.246.102]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3RBQxP13471 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 04:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ttt-atm.ttt.bme.hu (ttt-atm.ttt.bme.hu [152.66.246.81]) by david.ttt.bme.hu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01073; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:26:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from TTT-ATM/SpoolDir by ttt-atm.ttt.bme.hu (Mercury 1.48); 27 Apr 01 13:33:32 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by TTT-ATM (Mercury 1.48); 27 Apr 01 13:33:18 +0100 Received: from ttt-atm.ttt.bme.hu (152.66.79.21) by ttt-atm.ttt.bme.hu (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 27 Apr 01 13:32:54 +0100 Message-ID: <3AE963FC.9F160E34@ttt-atm.ttt.bme.hu> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:20:12 +0100 From: Gabor Retvari X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manoj Agiwal CC: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: Re: Traffic Control References: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E6792@BRAHMA01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Control provides an interface for query of Admission control . 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