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IT HURTS ALL OF US From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 11 17:49:08 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id RAA21709 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26339 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26330 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6BKt5L21468; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:55:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id UAA24931; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:55:05 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:55:05 GMT Message-Id: <200107112055.UAA24931@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, rajesh.advani@wipro.com Subject: Re: Reg RFC 2961 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 11 04:41:33 2001 *> From: "Rajesh Advani" *> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:31:06 +0500 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> Content-Language: en *> Subject: Reg RFC 2961 *> X-Accept-Language: en *> Content-Disposition: inline *> *> Hi all , *> I have a doubt regarding RFC 2961 (RSVP Refresh Overhead Reduction *> Extensions) . *> *> I could not understand the reason for having a separate MESSAGE_ID *> SRC_LIST object and a MESSAGE_ID MCAST_LIST object . What exactly is *> the purpose of wanting to send a refresh message sometimes to the next *> hop and sometimes to the multicast destination ? Isn't refresh *> messaging always supposed to be hop-by-hop ? *> Refreshing is (RSVP-)hop by (RSVP-) hop, but in the downstream direction you might not know the next hop(s). Therefore, in basic RSVP Path refresh messages are sent to the session destination address, which might be multicast. This handles the case of a broadcast or NMBA network, and the case of a non-RSVP cloud. Bob Braden *> Could somebody please address this problem ? *> *> Thank U for u'r time , *> Rajesh Advani . *> *> *> *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 11 18:33:08 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA23093 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01191 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01186 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rumor.cps.intel.com (rumor.cps.intel.com [192.102.198.242]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6BLgEL13014 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP (fmsmsxvs05-1.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.205]) by rumor.cps.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.41 2001/07/09 21:06:22 root Exp $) with SMTP id VAA26516 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:41:58 GMT Received: from fmsmsx28.fm.intel.com ([132.233.48.28]) by 132.233.48.205 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:41:58 0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx28.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3XGD0MHQ>; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:41:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Feng, Mark" To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:41:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi, RFC 2961 describes a mechanism to detect out-of-order messages for a particular state (Please see the quote below). I am not sure the mechanism works all the time. The test should work if the new number does not wrap around too far. However, since the message ID is per generator's IP address, it could be sent to multiple receivers; and there could be numbers of connections/states on each receiver. In this case, if a particular state does not experience any change of state for a substantial long period of time, the next state change could result in the receiver getting a trigger message with a message ID that wraps around far enough so that the test will fail (e.g. let's say old id is 0x8fffffff, the new value is 0x00000002, the test fails) Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks in advance. Mark "Nodes processing incoming MESSAGE_ID objects SHOULD check to see if a newly received message is out of order and can be ignored. Out of order messages SHOULD be ignored, i.e., silently dropped. Out of order messages can be identified by examining the values in the Epoch and Message_Identifier fields. To determine ordering, the received Epoch value must match the value previously received from the message sender. If the values differ then the receiver MUST NOT treat the message as out of order. When the Epoch values match and the Message_Identifier value is less than the largest value previously received from the sender, then the receiver SHOULD check the value previously received for the state associated with the message. This check should be performed for any message that installs or changes state. (Includes at least: Path, Resv, PathTear, ResvTear, PathErr and ResvErr.) If no local state information can be associated with the message, the receiver MUST NOT treat the message as out of order. If local state can be associated with the message and the received Message_Identifier value is less than the most recently received value associated with the state, the message SHOULD be treated as being out of order. Note that the 32-bit Message_Identifier value MAY wrap. To cover the wrap case, the following expression may be used to test if a newly received Message_Identifier value is less than a previously received value: if ((int) old_id - (int) new_id > 0) { new value is less than old value; } " From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Jul 12 02:52:53 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA04717 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 02:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29239 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29234 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web3802.mail.yahoo.com (web3802.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.111.173]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f6C6B7L02117 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010712061107.12119.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.40.232.3] by web3802.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:11:07 PDT Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:11:07 -0700 (PDT) From: ashish kulshreshtha Subject: Why UDP instead of RSVP in IP tunnels To: rsvp@ISI.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk My question is why do we use UDP in IP tunnels to differentiate between sessions. Why not we use RSVP directly ? regards, ashish __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Jul 12 04:23:32 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA14398 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 04:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA04046 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA04041 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panther.cs.ucla.edu (Panther.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.128.25]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6C7kTL17521 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (terzis@localhost) by panther.cs.ucla.edu (8.9.1/UCLACS-5.0) with ESMTP id AAA13810; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:45:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Andreas Terzis To: ashish kulshreshtha cc: Subject: Re: Why UDP instead of RSVP in IP tunnels In-Reply-To: <20010712061107.12119.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, ashish kulshreshtha wrote: > My question is why do we use UDP in IP tunnels to > differentiate between sessions. > Why not we use RSVP directly ? > > regards, > ashish > Ashish, RSVP's role is to configures the classifier filters so packets belonging to different flows can be identified and given different service. In the case of RSVP Tunnels, since all packets are encapsulated using the IP address of the entry point as src addr and the address of the tunnel exit point as dst addr we need to add a UDP header so packets belonging to different flows can also be differentiated inside the tunnel. For example S1---F1-->--+ +->--R1 | +-------+ F1' +------+ | +---| | --->------ | |---+ |R_entry|------------|R_exit| +---| | --->------ | |---+ | +-------+ F2' +------+ | S2---F2-->--+ +->--R2 Suppose that we have two flows F1 and F2 (where a flow is defined by the 5 tuple (proto, src ip, dst ip, src port, dst port)). Packets from these two flows are going to be encapsulated inside the tunnel between R_entry and R_exit using the same IP header (protocol is going to be IP-in-IP, src_ip == R_entry and dst_ip == R_exit). So if you want to differentiate between the two flows you need some other identifier. That's why we decided to add a UDP header where different sessions are associated to different src UDP ports. Hope this helps regards, -andreas From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Jul 12 05:49:36 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA23424 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 05:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA07629 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 02:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07624 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 02:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from samar.sasken.com (samar.sasken.com [164.164.56.2]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6C95FL29169 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 02:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from samar (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by samar.sasken.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f6C958g04083 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:35:09 +0530 (IST) Received: from sasken.com (pckb171.sasi.com [10.0.83.171]) by sunk3.sasi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05931 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:35:03 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <3B4D67C2.657F67C8@sasken.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:32:58 +0530 From: Adithya Bhat Reply-To: adithya@sasken.com Organization: Sasken X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: NULL Object Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------56C0B577C7B32822B1E7D61E" Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------56C0B577C7B32822B1E7D61E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi *, In RFC 2205, Section 3.1.2 there is a reference to a NULL object which says "A NULL object has a Class-Num of zero, and its C-Type is ignored. Its length must be at least 4, but can be any multiple of 4. A NULL object may appear anywhere in a sequence of objects, and its contents will be ignored by the receiver." If the content of this Object is to be ignored, can somebody explain me the importance of this Object ? Thanks in advance, Adithya --------------56C0B577C7B32822B1E7D61E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="adithya.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Adithya Bhat Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="adithya.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Bhat;Adithya tel;fax:5560045 tel;home:6782112 tel;work:5578300-8251 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.sasken.com org:Sasken Communication Technologies Limited;R&D version:2.1 email;internet:adithya@sasken.com adr;quoted-printable:;;21, Brigade Square, Cambridge Road, Ulsoor,=0D=0A;Bangalore;Karnataka;560008;India fn:Adithya end:vcard --------------56C0B577C7B32822B1E7D61E-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Jul 12 11:37:22 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA07499 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA24009 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24002 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.68.6]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6CEu0L01637 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05031 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.com (lego-king.dc.fore.com [169.144.136.180]) by mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03432 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B4DBA7D.ADFD05EC@marconi.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:55:57 -0400 From: Jack Brennen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: NULL Object References: <3B4D67C2.657F67C8@sasken.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adithya Bhat wrote: > > Hi *, > > In RFC 2205, Section 3.1.2 there is a reference to a NULL object > which says > > "A NULL object has a Class-Num of zero, and its > C-Type > is ignored. Its length must be at least 4, but can > be any multiple of 4. A NULL object may appear > anywhere in a sequence of objects, and its contents > will be ignored by the receiver." > > If the content of this Object is to be ignored, can somebody explain me > the importance of this Object ? > It allows an implementation to "delete" an object from a message by simply replacing the Class-Num with 0. This is usually less expensive than actually reconstructing the packet. From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Jul 12 12:46:02 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA17917 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28352 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28342 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6CG1bL03148; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:01:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id QAA25132; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:01:37 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:01:37 GMT Message-Id: <200107121601.QAA25132@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, adithya@sasken.com Subject: Re: NULL Object X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Jul 12 02:07:21 2001 *> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:32:58 +0530 *> From: Adithya Bhat *> X-Accept-Language: en *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Subject: NULL Object *> *> Hi *, *> *> In RFC 2205, Section 3.1.2 there is a reference to a NULL object *> which says *> *> "A NULL object has a Class-Num of zero, and its *> C-Type *> is ignored. Its length must be at least 4, but can *> be any multiple of 4. A NULL object may appear *> anywhere in a sequence of objects, and its contents *> will be ignored by the receiver." *> *> If the content of this Object is to be ignored, can somebody explain me *> the importance of this Object ? *> *> *> Thanks in advance, *> *> *> Adithya *> This is a good test question to distinguish an engineer from a computer scientist. Bob Braden From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 13 01:29:46 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id BAA28676 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13758 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13753 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from samar.sasken.com (samar.sasken.com [164.164.56.2]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6D4p7L21803 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from samar (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by samar.sasken.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f6D4p3g16953 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:21:03 +0530 (IST) Received: from sasken.com (pcka172.sasi.com [10.0.82.172]) by sunk3.sasi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18370 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:20:59 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <3B4E7E61.3EB0721B@sasken.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:21:45 +0530 From: Rajesh P Jain Organization: SASKEN Communication Technologies Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: NULL Object Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Hi", Jack, I agree with you that it reduces the creation of a new packet. But does not it increases the processing overhead at each node through which the packet with a NULL object traverse? I mean to say that all the subsequent node through which the packet traverse needs to check the NULL object condition and hence ignore it. Please throw some loght on it. With Regards Rajesh P Jain Jack Brennen wrote: > Adithya Bhat wrote: > > > > Hi *, > > > > In RFC 2205, Section 3.1.2 there is a reference to a NULL object > > which says > > > > "A NULL object has a Class-Num of zero, and its > > C-Type > > is ignored. Its length must be at least 4, but can > > be any multiple of 4. A NULL object may appear > > anywhere in a sequence of objects, and its contents > > will be ignored by the receiver." > > > > If the content of this Object is to be ignored, can somebody explain me > > the importance of this Object ? > > > > It allows an implementation to "delete" an object from a message > by simply replacing the Class-Num with 0. This is usually less > expensive than actually reconstructing the packet. 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--PQvAsENjLNvLoX4krFzg38EWZt-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 13 04:50:35 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA02610 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 04:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23293 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23288 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alsroma.roma.alespazio.it (IDENT:root@dns.alespazio.it [194.20.199.1]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6D8CEL27283 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eskyniu3 ([172.21.6.36]) by alsroma.roma.alespazio.it (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f6D8BA807423 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:11:10 +0200 Message-ID: <001401c10b73$ba59b3b0$240615ac@roma.alespazio.it> From: "Vecchia" To: Subject: Generation of RSVP messages Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:13:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C10B84.7DBF4440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Messaggio in formato MIME composto da piy parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C10B84.7DBF4440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all , here is my problem I have to generate RSVP messages by myself for a little test. I need very simple path and resv message (I want to support controlled = load and guaranteed service). I red the RFC 2205 and 2210 but I didn't = understand a lot of things. Do you have some example or some suggestion to give me (or some web site = to visit to find something simpler than RFC)? Thank you Fabio ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C10B84.7DBF4440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all , here is my problem
I = have to=20 generate RSVP messages by myself for a little test.
I need very = simple path=20 and resv message (I want to support controlled load and guaranteed = service). I=20 red the RFC 2205 and 2210 but I didn't understand a lot of things.
Do = you=20 have some example or some suggestion to give me (or some web site to = visit to=20 find something simpler than RFC)?
Thank = you
=20 Fabio

------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C10B84.7DBF4440-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 13 05:22:56 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA06228 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 05:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA24361 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24355 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alsroma.roma.alespazio.it (IDENT:root@dns.alespazio.it [194.20.199.1]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6D8VqL00997 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eskyniu3 ([172.21.6.36]) by alsroma.roma.alespazio.it (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f6D8Um808650 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:30:48 +0200 Message-ID: <008e01c10b76$78758a20$240615ac@roma.alespazio.it> From: "Vecchia" To: Subject: Generation of RSVP messages Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:33:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008B_01C10B87.3BE8FD60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Messaggio in formato MIME composto da piy parti. ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C10B87.3BE8FD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all , here is my problem I have to generate RSVP messages by myself for a little test. I need very simple path and resv message (I want to support controlled = load and guaranteed service). I red the RFC 2205 and 2210 but I didn't = understand a lot of things. Do you have some example or some suggestion to give me (or some web site = to visit to find something simpler than RFC)? Thank you Fabio ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C10B87.3BE8FD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all , here is my problem
I = have to=20 generate RSVP messages by myself for a little test.
I need very = simple path=20 and resv message (I want to support controlled load and guaranteed = service). I=20 red the RFC 2205 and 2210 but I didn't understand a lot of things.
Do = you=20 have some example or some suggestion to give me (or some web site to = visit to=20 find something simpler than RFC)?
Thank = you
=20 Fabio

------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C10B87.3BE8FD60-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 13 06:19:40 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id GAA12713 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27343 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27338 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ita.es (gemini.ita.es [193.144.226.5]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6D9a2L12455 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ita.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ita.es (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11938 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:35:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telema05 (telema05.ita.es [193.144.228.35]) by ita.es (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA11933 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:35:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001e01c10b7e$e8eaa080$23e490c1@IACS> From: "Rafael del Hoyo" To: Subject: docsis 1.1 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:33:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by zephyr.isi.edu id CAB27343 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id GAA12713 Hi, In this moment we try to do a implementation DOCSIS 1.1 of RSVP . Do you know some comercial or free implementation of RSVP with the new objets of DOCSIS? If you have some suggestion to give me (or some web site to visit to find it) i will be grateful Thanks in avance Rafael ********************** Rafael Del Hoyo Institute Thecnologic of Aragon (ITA) -Telematic Area C/ Mar韆 de Luna, 8 50015 Zaragoza (Spain) From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 13 15:34:59 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA28225 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26877 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26872 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6DInWL12264; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:49:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id SAA25454; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:49:32 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:49:32 GMT Message-Id: <200107131849.SAA25454@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, rpjain@sasken.com Subject: Re: NULL Object X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> *> I mean to say that all the subsequent node through *> which *> the packet traverse needs to check the NULL object condition and hence *> ignore *> it. Maybe so, if you are writing your code in Fortran. Bob Braden From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sat Jul 14 01:04:35 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id BAA08019 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 01:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA26389 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26383 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6E4OYL12433 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tot-mtc-tf.proxy.aol.com (tot-mtc-tf.proxy.aol.com [64.12.103.1]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA20669; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 00:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juniper.net (ACAEEA68.ipt.aol.com [172.174.234.104]) by tot-mtc-tf.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f6E4Nmt20812; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 00:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B4FCA7A.F8017E19@juniper.net> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:28:42 -0700 From: Ping Pan Organization: Juniper Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Feng, Mark" CC: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Apparently-From: Pingpan999@aol.com Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Feng, Mark" wrote: > > Hi, > > RFC 2961 describes a mechanism to detect out-of-order messages for a > particular state (Please see the quote below). I am not sure the mechanism > works all the time. The test should work if the new number does not wrap > around too far. However, since the message ID is per generator's IP address, > it could be sent to multiple receivers; and there could be numbers of > connections/states on each receiver. In this case, if a particular state > does not experience any change of state for a substantial long period of > time, the next state change could result in the receiver getting a trigger > message with a message ID that wraps around far enough so that the test will > fail (e.g. let's say old id is 0x8fffffff, the new value is 0x00000002, the > test fails) > > Please correct me if I am wrong. > Mark, One solution is that when the message id becomes too big, the router simply changes the epoch value, and start to send the id from a low number again. In this case, if you use the Ack-extension only, the receiving node will simply update the states to the new id's in the next refresh cycle. If you use the summary-refresh extension, the receiving node will nack the summary-refresh messages due to epoch change. The sending node will have to reply a bunch of messages to sync up the id's. I know the RFC said something like epoch value should not change unless the router has restarted.... Well, the router does restart the message id now. :-) - Ping > Thanks in advance. > > Mark > From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sun Jul 15 10:58:09 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA29145 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA18475 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18470 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.jxfz.gov.cn ([202.101.234.195]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f6FE3iL20458 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from html (unverified [61.170.141.191]) by mail.jxfz.gov.cn (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:01:30 +0800 Message-ID: From: miya0711@sina.com To: rsw@netvigator.com Subject: 找梦中情人到诚同交友 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:02:26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; 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Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06755 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06750 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from braden@localhost) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f6FLcaN14124; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:38:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Message-Id: <200107152138.f6FLcaN14124@boreas.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, rdelhoyo@ita.es Subject: Re: docsis 1.1 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 13 02:38:05 2001 *> From: "Rafael del Hoyo" *> To: *> Subject: docsis 1.1 *> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:33:44 +0200 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *> X-Priority: 3 *> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal *> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 *> *> Hi, *> *> In this moment we try to do a implementation DOCSIS 1.1 of RSVP . *> *> Do you know some comercial or free implementation of RSVP with the new *> objets of DOCSIS? *> What new objects? Did I miss an Internet Draft? Bob Braden From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sun Jul 15 20:49:07 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id UAA24214 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13103 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13098 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from braden@localhost) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f6G05fS24677; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Message-Id: <200107160005.f6G05fS24677@boreas.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, m_feng@trillium.com Subject: Re: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Comments on this question, please, from at least one of the 6 authors of 2961? Bob Braden *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 11 14:46:17 2001 *> From: "Feng, Mark" *> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Subject: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg *> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:41:55 -0700 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> *> Hi, *> *> RFC 2961 describes a mechanism to detect out-of-order messages for a *> particular state (Please see the quote below). I am not sure the mechanism *> works all the time. The test should work if the new number does not wrap *> around too far. However, since the message ID is per generator's IP address, *> it could be sent to multiple receivers; and there could be numbers of *> connections/states on each receiver. In this case, if a particular state *> does not experience any change of state for a substantial long period of *> time, the next state change could result in the receiver getting a trigger *> message with a message ID that wraps around far enough so that the test will *> fail (e.g. let's say old id is 0x8fffffff, the new value is 0x00000002, the *> test fails) *> *> Please correct me if I am wrong. *> *> Thanks in advance. *> *> Mark *> *> "Nodes processing incoming MESSAGE_ID objects SHOULD check to see if a *> newly received message is out of order and can be ignored. Out of *> order messages SHOULD be ignored, i.e., silently dropped. Out of *> order messages can be identified by examining the values in the Epoch *> and Message_Identifier fields. To determine ordering, the received *> Epoch value must match the value previously received from the message *> sender. If the values differ then the receiver MUST NOT treat the *> message as out of order. When the Epoch values match and the *> Message_Identifier value is less than the largest value previously *> received from the sender, then the receiver SHOULD check the value *> previously received for the state associated with the message. This *> check should be performed for any message that installs or changes *> state. (Includes at least: Path, Resv, PathTear, ResvTear, PathErr *> and ResvErr.) If no local state information can be associated with *> the message, the receiver MUST NOT treat the message as out of order. *> If local state can be associated with the message and the received *> Message_Identifier value is less than the most recently received *> value associated with the state, the message SHOULD be treated as *> being out of order. *> *> Note that the 32-bit Message_Identifier value MAY wrap. To cover the *> wrap case, the following expression may be used to test if a newly *> received Message_Identifier value is less than a previously received *> value: *> *> if ((int) old_id - (int) new_id > 0) { *> new value is less than old value; *> } *> " *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Jul 16 04:09:33 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA21523 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01390 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01385 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ita.es (gemini.ita.es [193.144.226.5]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6G6wfL21412 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ita.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ita.es (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA28292 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:58:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telema02 (telema02.ita.es [193.144.228.32]) by ita.es (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA28288 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:58:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <002901c10dc4$bad8b540$20e490c1@ita.es> From: "Rafael del Hoyo" To: Subject: RE: docsis 1.1 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:58:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi!! > > What new objects? Did I miss an Internet Draft? > Not exactly, The new objets appear in the Packetcable especifications, "PacketCableT Dynamic Quality-of-Service Specification" These new objets areonly for packetcable on cable systems. http://www.packetcable.com/specs/pkt-sp-dqos-i02-000818.pdf regards Rafa From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Jul 16 11:39:49 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA04724 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA22532 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22527 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bocmacau.com ([202.175.56.102]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6GEwuL06736 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadow - 210.64.193.192 by mail.bocmacau.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1775.675.6); 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Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27895 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27890 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hypnos.cps.intel.com (hypnos.cps.intel.com [192.198.165.17]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6GGMBL10746 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP (fmsmsxvs01-1.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.201]) by hypnos.cps.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.41 2001/07/09 21:06:22 root Exp $) with SMTP id QAA01170; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:22:00 GMT Received: from fmsmsx17.intel.com ([132.233.48.17]) by 132.233.48.201 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:21:50 0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx17.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3X1MWHT6>; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:21:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Feng, Mark" To: "'Ping Pan'" , "Feng, Mark" Cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: RE: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:21:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi Ping, The proposed work-around seems to work. However, for use of summary-refresh extension, that means potentially quite a number of connections/states need to be re-synchronized. The other work-around is not to do the check. If the check is not done, the result is no worse than the normal RSVP (RFC 2205), which does not have such mechanism in place, but rely on soft-state instead. The RFC 2961 mentions the receiver "should" do it; so it is not a "must":-). Thanks. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Ping Pan [mailto:pingpan@juniper.net] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:29 PM To: Feng, Mark Cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg "Feng, Mark" wrote: > > Hi, > > RFC 2961 describes a mechanism to detect out-of-order messages for a > particular state (Please see the quote below). I am not sure the mechanism > works all the time. The test should work if the new number does not wrap > around too far. However, since the message ID is per generator's IP address, > it could be sent to multiple receivers; and there could be numbers of > connections/states on each receiver. In this case, if a particular state > does not experience any change of state for a substantial long period of > time, the next state change could result in the receiver getting a trigger > message with a message ID that wraps around far enough so that the test will > fail (e.g. let's say old id is 0x8fffffff, the new value is 0x00000002, the > test fails) > > Please correct me if I am wrong. > Mark, One solution is that when the message id becomes too big, the router simply changes the epoch value, and start to send the id from a low number again. In this case, if you use the Ack-extension only, the receiving node will simply update the states to the new id's in the next refresh cycle. If you use the summary-refresh extension, the receiving node will nack the summary-refresh messages due to epoch change. The sending node will have to reply a bunch of messages to sync up the id's. I know the RFC said something like epoch value should not change unless the router has restarted.... Well, the router does restart the message id now. :-) - Ping > Thanks in advance. > > Mark > From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Jul 16 13:38:00 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA01803 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00920 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00915 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.juniper.net (natint.juniper.net [207.17.136.129]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6GH2VL25816 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from juniper.net ([172.16.167.236]) by merlot.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6GH2OH93731; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:02:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pingpan@juniper.net) Message-ID: <3B531E17.93B8E4F@juniper.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:02:15 -0700 From: Ping Pan Organization: Juniper Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Feng, Mark" CC: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Feng, Mark" wrote: > > Hi Ping, > > The proposed work-around seems to work. However, for use of summary-refresh > extension, that means potentially quite a number of connections/states need > to be re-synchronized. > Mark, Yes. But I think it's OK when you use exponential backoff timers (or staged refresh timers). Since each refresh cycle is much larger now, I don't think you will have a hugh burst of trigger messages. Also how to control the amount of messages being sent over the wire is an implementation issue. > The other work-around is not to do the check. If the check is not done, the > result is no worse than the normal RSVP (RFC 2205), which does not have such > mechanism in place, but rely on soft-state instead. The RFC 2961 mentions > the receiver "should" do it; so it is not a "must":-). > Don't like it. :-) Remember you must not send the same msg-id for two different messages. Without checking, it would be tough to achieve this. - Ping > Thanks. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ping Pan [mailto:pingpan@juniper.net] > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:29 PM > To: Feng, Mark > Cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU > Subject: Re: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg > > "Feng, Mark" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > RFC 2961 describes a mechanism to detect out-of-order messages for a > > particular state (Please see the quote below). I am not sure the mechanism > > works all the time. The test should work if the new number does not wrap > > around too far. However, since the message ID is per generator's IP > address, > > it could be sent to multiple receivers; and there could be numbers of > > connections/states on each receiver. In this case, if a particular state > > does not experience any change of state for a substantial long period of > > time, the next state change could result in the receiver getting a trigger > > message with a message ID that wraps around far enough so that the test > will > > fail (e.g. let's say old id is 0x8fffffff, the new value is 0x00000002, > the > > test fails) > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Mark, > > One solution is that when the message id becomes too big, the router > simply changes the epoch value, and start to send the id from a low > number again. In this case, if you use the Ack-extension only, the > receiving node will simply update the states to the new id's in the next > refresh cycle. If you use the summary-refresh extension, the receiving > node will nack the summary-refresh messages due to epoch change. The > sending node will have to reply a bunch of messages to sync up the id's. > > I know the RFC said something like epoch value should not change unless > the router has restarted.... Well, the router does restart the message > id now. :-) > > - Ping > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Mark > > From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Jul 16 13:54:49 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA04853 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02028 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02023 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hypnos.cps.intel.com (hypnos.cps.intel.com [192.198.165.17]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6GHIpL01112 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP (fmsmsxvs01-1.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.201]) by hypnos.cps.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.41 2001/07/09 21:06:22 root Exp $) with SMTP id RAA24199; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:18:45 GMT Received: from fmsmsx27.FM.INTEL.COM ([132.233.48.27]) by 132.233.48.201 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:18:37 0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx27.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <30MJQ09Q>; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:18:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Feng, Mark" To: "'Ping Pan'" , "Feng, Mark" Cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: RE: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:18:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk I agree the check for duplicate message ID should be there. I meant the check and subsequent action for out-of-order message ID could be skipped. As for duplicate message ID, since there could be multiple receivers, each receiver would not know if it has received a message ID which has been used by other receivers. It is really up to the sender to ensure that. Thanks. Mark >> The other work-around is not to do the check. If the check is not done, the >> result is no worse than the normal RSVP (RFC 2205), which does not have such >> mechanism in place, but rely on soft-state instead. The RFC 2961 mentions >> the receiver "should" do it; so it is not a "must":-). >> >Don't like it. :-) Remember you must not send the same msg-id for two >different messages. Without checking, it would be tough to achieve this. >- Ping From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Jul 16 15:29:03 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA23131 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07329 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07323 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.juniper.net (natint.juniper.net [207.17.136.129]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6GIddL04170 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from juniper.net (panther.juniper.net [172.17.12.226]) by merlot.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6GIdYH00440; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:39:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pingpan@juniper.net) Message-ID: <3B5334E6.DCDBEB95@juniper.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:39:34 -0700 From: Ping Pan Organization: Juniper Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Feng, Mark" CC: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Feng, Mark" wrote: > > I agree the check for duplicate message ID should be there. I meant the > check and subsequent action for out-of-order message ID could be skipped. > Mark, Out-of-order message ID checking must be done, otherwise, I fear bad things will happen due to route changes. > As for duplicate message ID, since there could be multiple receivers, each > receiver would not know if it has received a message ID which has been used > by other receivers. It is really up to the sender to ensure that. > Receivers do know that. At a receiving node, the message-id's that are arrived from a previous/next hop on a particular interface must be unique and increasing. Only looking at the msg-id itself is not enough. - Ping > Thanks. > > Mark From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Jul 17 18:22:51 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA27853 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05442 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05435 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rumor.cps.intel.com (rumor.cps.intel.com [192.102.198.242]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6HLP0L18442 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP (fmsmsxvs05-1.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.205]) by rumor.cps.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.41 2001/07/09 21:06:22 root Exp $) with SMTP id VAA26895; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:24:50 GMT Received: from fmsmsx28.fm.intel.com ([132.233.48.28]) by 132.233.48.205 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:24:50 0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx28.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:24:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Feng, Mark" To: "'Ping Pan'" , "Feng, Mark" Cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: RE: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:24:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Sorry for the late reply, I was busy on other things for a while... I am not sure what problem we will have due to route changes. But if the check is necessary, and I agree it is a nice thing to have, your suggestion seems to be quite reasonable. Thanks. - Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Ping Pan [mailto:pingpan@juniper.net] > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 11:40 AM > To: Feng, Mark > Cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU > Subject: Re: RFC 2961 - detectoin of out-of-order msg > > > "Feng, Mark" wrote: > > > > I agree the check for duplicate message ID should be there. > I meant the > > check and subsequent action for out-of-order message ID > could be skipped. > > > > Mark, > > Out-of-order message ID checking must be done, otherwise, I fear bad > things will happen due to route changes. > > > As for duplicate message ID, since there could be multiple > receivers, each > > receiver would not know if it has received a message ID > which has been used > > by other receivers. It is really up to the sender to ensure that. > > > > Receivers do know that. At a receiving node, the message-id's that are > arrived from a previous/next hop on a particular interface must be > unique and increasing. Only looking at the msg-id itself is > not enough. > > - Ping > > > Thanks. > > > > Mark > From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 18 00:06:10 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id AAA29586 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25475 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25469 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6I3aiL14339 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netbrahma.com (khuzema.netbrahma.com [172.16.72.170]) by brahma01.netbrahma.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3ZBLH20W; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:04:39 +0530 Message-ID: <3B5503EF.6F1BE5D0@netbrahma.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:05:11 +0530 From: Khuzema Pithewan Organization: Netbrahma Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-6.1.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Session Attributes References: <3B52BCC1.9F9C8668@netbrahma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Session Attribute Object in RSVP-TE contains some flags , setup and holding priority and some session related info. My doubt is , if this object is per session or per LSP, because name suggest that it is per session, but holding/setup priorities are the attributes of a LSP. so basically where to keep this Object,?? in PSB or Session??? Khuzema. From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 18 01:01:18 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id BAA10918 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA29851 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29846 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.juniper.net (natint.juniper.net [207.17.136.129]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6I4bAL26325 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from juniper.net ([172.16.167.236]) by merlot.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6I4avH92373; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pingpan@juniper.net) Message-ID: <3B55125D.7682CF27@juniper.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:36:45 -0700 From: Ping Pan Organization: Juniper Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Khuzema Pithewan CC: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: Session Attributes References: <3B52BCC1.9F9C8668@netbrahma.com> <3B5503EF.6F1BE5D0@netbrahma.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Khuzema, First, this question should go to the mpls list. Please forward the discussion to that list. Second, the question itself is implementation dependent. Finally, since the Session Attribute object is to describe the properties of a RSVP session, in a normal implementation, it should be kept where you keep the session. - Ping Khuzema Pithewan wrote: > > Hi, > > Session Attribute Object in RSVP-TE contains some flags , setup and > holding priority and some session related info. > > My doubt is , if this object is per session or per LSP, because name > suggest > that it is per session, but holding/setup priorities are the attributes > of a LSP. > so basically where to keep this Object,?? in PSB or Session??? > > Khuzema. 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Hello all,

Can anyone tell me some tipical = values for r=20 and b used in the TSPEC for the token bucket?

For example: " a tipical application = use a bucket=20 with depth 10000 (bytes) and rate 100 (bytes/seconds)"

Thank you

Fabio=20 Vecchia

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hello fellas

=20 i have a problem of getting = outgoing=20 interfaces on a WIN NT machine for filling in the OI whuile building the = PSB

.WIN NT provides no API's for querying = the =20 router

Could somebody please help me on this =

-SIGTERM

amit

A good question is never = answered. It is not=20 a bolt to be tightened
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hope of greening the landscape of=20 idea.

------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C11207.124C8400-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sat Jul 21 08:11:44 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id IAA00274 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA01582 for rsvp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 04:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01577 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 04:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcsmail.patni.com ([203.124.139.197]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6LBVCL16897 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 04:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcsbom.patni.com (pcsbom.patni.com [204.165.186.25]) by pcsmail.patni.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29126 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:16:28 +0530 Received: from SMTP (antivirusgw\@patni.com [204.165.186.154] (may be forged)) by pcsbom.patni.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00089 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:18:15 +0530 (IST) Received: from akash.patni.com ([192.168.0.12]) by 204.165.186.154 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 00:04:26 0000 (GMT) Received: from pcp31786 ([192.168.16.79]) by akash.patni.com (8.11.0/SCO5) with SMTP id f6LB2Sl28239 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:32:28 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <007601c111d9$ae996b30$4f10a8c0@pcp31786> From: "amit limaye" To: Subject: RTEAR message processing Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:08:14 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01C11207.BA260750" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C11207.BA260750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello=20 i am imlementing a RSVP server on a WIN NT system while reading RFC 2209 i could not understand this PArticular clause for = RTEAR message processing=20 could somebody please help me on these 2. Select a flow descriptor (Qj,Fj) (where Fj may be a list) in the RTEAR message whose FILTER_SPEC matches the SENDER_TEMPLATE in the PSB. If not match is found, return for next PSB. - Search for an RSB (for any outgoing interface) to which the PSB routes and whose Filter_spec_list includes the SENDER_TEMPLATE from the PSB. - If an RSB is found, add the PHOP of the PSB to the Refresh_PHOP_list. which RSB what is meant by selecting=20 Search for a RSB to which the PSB routes=20 i did not get it=20 could somebody please help me n this -SIGTERM amit A good question is never answered. It is not a bolt to be tightened into place but a seed to be planted and to bear more seed toward the hope of greening the landscape of idea. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C11207.BA260750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hello

i am imlementing a RSVP server on a WIN = NT=20 system

while reading RFC 2209 i could not = understand this=20 PArticular clause for RTEAR message processing

could somebody please help me on = these

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           &n= bsp;     =20 list) in the RTEAR message whose FILTER_SPEC=20 matches
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           &= nbsp;          =20 which the PSB routes and whose=20 Filter_spec_list
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&n= bsp; =20 - If an RSB is found, add the PHOP of the PSB=20 to
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which RSB what is meant by selecting =

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-SIGTERM

amit

A good question is never = answered. It is not=20 a bolt to be tightened
into place but a seed to be planted and to = bear more=20 seed toward the
hope of greening the landscape of=20 idea.

------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C11207.BA260750-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sat Jul 21 09:26:18 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id JAA13498 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04737 for rsvp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 05:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04732 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 05:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6LCqpL24583 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 05:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailserver.netbrahma.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:20:39 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71FF0DF@mailserver.netbrahma.com> From: Khuzema Pithewan To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, "'amit limaye'" Subject: RE: RTEAR message processing Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:20:38 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Its a tipical case of multicast. As PSB may route to more than one RSBs, so if atleast one RSB exist for PSB, then the node shouldn't forward ResvTear for that PSB, instead it should send ResvRefresh for it. Khuzema. > ---------- > From: amit limaye > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 5:08 PM > To: rsvp@ISI.EDU > Subject: RTEAR message processing > > hello > i am imlementing a RSVP server on a WIN NT system > while reading RFC 2209 i could not understand this PArticular clause for > RTEAR message processing > could somebody please help me on these > > 2. Select a flow descriptor (Qj,Fj) (where Fj may be a > list) in the RTEAR message whose FILTER_SPEC matches > the SENDER_TEMPLATE in the PSB. If not match is > found, return for next PSB. > > - Search for an RSB (for any outgoing interface) to > which the PSB routes and whose Filter_spec_list > includes the SENDER_TEMPLATE from the PSB. > > - If an RSB is found, add the PHOP of the PSB to > the Refresh_PHOP_list. > > which RSB what is meant by selecting > Search for a RSB to which the PSB routes > i did not get it > could somebody please help me n this > -SIGTERM > amit > A good question is never answered. It is not a bolt to be tightened > into place but a seed to be planted and to bear more seed toward the > hope of greening the landscape of idea. > From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sat Jul 21 09:31:36 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id JAA14646 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA05126 for rsvp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 06:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05121 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 06:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6LD0bL25963 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 06:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailserver.netbrahma.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:28:26 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71FF0E0@mailserver.netbrahma.com> From: Khuzema Pithewan To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: RE: RTEAR message processing Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:28:25 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk PSB routing to RSB means, one of the outgoing interface of PSB matches with the RSB's NHOP Khuzema. > ---------- > From: amit limaye > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 6:34 PM > To: Khuzema Pithewan > Subject: Re: RTEAR message processing > > my doubt has been what is meant by a PSB routing to an RSB ? > -SIGTERM > amit > thanx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Khuzema Pithewan > To: ; 'amit limaye' > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 6:20 PM > Subject: RE: RTEAR message processing > > > > Its a tipical case of multicast. As PSB may route to more than one RSBs, > so > > if atleast one RSB exist for PSB, then the node shouldn't forward > ResvTear > > for that PSB, instead it should send ResvRefresh for it. > > > > Khuzema. > > > > > ---------- > > > From: amit limaye > > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 5:08 PM > > > To: rsvp@ISI.EDU > > > Subject: RTEAR message processing > > > > > > hello > > > i am imlementing a RSVP server on a WIN NT system > > > while reading RFC 2209 i could not understand this PArticular clause > for > > > RTEAR message processing > > > could somebody please help me on these > > > > > > 2. Select a flow descriptor (Qj,Fj) (where Fj may be a > > > list) in the RTEAR message whose FILTER_SPEC matches > > > the SENDER_TEMPLATE in the PSB. If not match is > > > found, return for next PSB. > > > > > > - Search for an RSB (for any outgoing interface) > to > > > which the PSB routes and whose Filter_spec_list > > > includes the SENDER_TEMPLATE from the PSB. > > > > > > - If an RSB is found, add the PHOP of the PSB to > > > the Refresh_PHOP_list. > > > > > > which RSB what is meant by selecting > > > Search for a RSB to which the PSB routes > > > i did not get it > > > could somebody please help me n this > > > -SIGTERM > > > amit > > > A good question is never answered. 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Here is the text under "PTEAR MESSAGE ARRIVES": o Find each RSB that matches this PSB, i.e., whose Filter_spec_list matches Sender_Template in the PSB and whose OI is included in OutInterface_list. Hopefully that is clear. Khuzema Pithewan's answers are also correct. 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<200107250201.f6P21NL11130@tnt.isi.edu> Received: from plain([208.11.62.172]) by mail.sc.cninfo.net(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jm03b5e360c; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:57:49 -0000 From: Thomas To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Easy to make "Between $200,000 and $500,000 every seven months Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:00:33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="DEFAULT_CHARSET" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Easy to make "Between $200,000 and $500,000 every seven months ***Under Bill S.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th U.S. Congress this letter Can Not be Considered Spam as long as we include the way to be removed. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// This message is sent in compliance with the new e-mail bill: SECTION 301. Sender: "Per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618, further transmissions to you by sender of this email may be stopped, at no cost to you, by sending a reply to this email address with the word "remove" in the subject line." /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Dear Friends & Future Millionaire: AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET ! ================================================== BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the program and if people can follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only $25 out of pocket cost''. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received total $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. =================================================== Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and voila ..... 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything.'' More testimonials later but first, ===== PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTUREREFERENCE ====== $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following...THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS: =====Order all 5 reports shown on the list below ===== For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems. === When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or you will lose out on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!! 1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5. 3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! ========================================================== **** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case you lose any data. To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY ========================================================== Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume you and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better, but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands of e-mails instead of only 5,000). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That =100 people responded and ordered Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report # 3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million). Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50 + 2..... $500 + 3..... $5,000 + 4 .... $50,000 + 5..... $500,000 ........ Grand Total=$555,550.00 NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSE AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ! ========================================================= REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or even one quarter of those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET ======================================================= Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report. =========== AVAILABLE REPORTS ==================== ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW : ==================================================== REPORT # 1: 'The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net Order Report #1 from: J.T. Francis 11 Par Drive Kingston 8 Jamaica ________________________________________________________ REPORT # 2: The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk e-mail on the Net Order Report # 2 from: Giles Scott, 22 Stoke Row Road, Peppard, Henley-On-Thames, Oxfordshire, RG9 5EP U.K. _________________________________________________________________ REPORT # 3: Secret to Multilevel marketing on the net Order Report # 3 from : D Drouin P.O. Box 1354 St. Paul, Alberta T0A 3A0 Canada _________________________________________________________________ REPORT # 4: How to become a millionaire utilizing MLM & the Net Order Report # 4 from: Shawn D Devlin 3624 Bluebird Ave SW Grand Rapids MI 49509 USA ________________________________________________________________ REPORT #5: How to send out 0ne Million emails for free Order Report # 5 From: S.Z. 6311 Danube Road Richmond B.C V7C 3H8 Canada __________________________________________________________ ______________ $$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$ Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: === If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. === After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. === Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a Different report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!! ====================================================== FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and moved others to #2 ...........# 5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW ! ============ MORE TESTIMONIALS ================ "My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving ''junk mail''. I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received total $ 147,200.00 ........... all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''. Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois ====================================================== ''Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back''. '' I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big." Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada ======================================================= ''I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone else.........11 months passed then it luckily came again...... I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 22 weeks." Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. ======================================================= ''It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to internet.". Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand ======================================================= ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM ! From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Jul 24 23:09:02 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id XAA09673 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06279 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mawk.co.kr ([211.218.238.135]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06263 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plain ([211.218.238.134]) by mawk.co.kr (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f6P1wCa02049 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:58:17 +0900 Message-Id: <200107250158.f6P1wCa02049@mawk.co.kr> From: Thomas To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Easy to make "Between $200,000 and $500,000 every seven months Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:00:20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="DEFAULT_CHARSET" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Easy to make "Between $200,000 and $500,000 every seven months ***Under Bill S.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th U.S. Congress this letter Can Not be Considered Spam as long as we include the way to be removed. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// This message is sent in compliance with the new e-mail bill: SECTION 301. Sender: "Per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618, further transmissions to you by sender of this email may be stopped, at no cost to you, by sending a reply to this email address with the word "remove" in the subject line." /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Dear Friends & Future Millionaire: AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET ! ================================================== BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the program and if people can follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only $25 out of pocket cost''. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received total $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. =================================================== Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and voila ..... 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything.'' More testimonials later but first, ===== PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTUREREFERENCE ====== $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following...THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS: =====Order all 5 reports shown on the list below ===== For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems. === When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or you will lose out on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!! 1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5. 3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! ========================================================== **** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case you lose any data. To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY ========================================================== Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume you and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better, but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands of e-mails instead of only 5,000). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That =100 people responded and ordered Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report # 3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million). Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50 + 2..... $500 + 3..... $5,000 + 4 .... $50,000 + 5..... $500,000 ........ Grand Total=$555,550.00 NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSE AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ! ========================================================= REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or even one quarter of those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET ======================================================= Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report. =========== AVAILABLE REPORTS ==================== ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. 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From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 25 05:10:44 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA05427 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA21442 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21436 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brahma01.netbrahma.com ([164.164.70.67]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6P6PXL03883 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailserver.netbrahma.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:53:16 +0530 Message-ID: <13D467F625FAD511AE2A00D0B7B917D71E6849@mailserver.netbrahma.com> From: Manoj Agiwal To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Cc: "'mpls@UU.NET'" Subject: Conversion of Bandwidth to QoS parameters . Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:53:15 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi , What is the way in which we can convert the bandwidth to QoS parameters viz. Traffic Spec Rate , Bucket Size , Peak Rate , Minimum Police Unit and Maximum Packet Size . When the end user request for reservations he will mention Bandwidth to be reserved , in case of RSVP-TE reservation will get initiated from ingress router . Thus is there any way we can map Bandwidth to QoS parameters . Regards , Manoj From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 25 07:18:24 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA10331 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA27333 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27328 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from samar.sasken.com (samar.sasken.com [164.164.56.2]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6P88qL06012 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from samar (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by samar.sasken.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f6P88cg24107 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:38:38 +0530 (IST) Received: from sasken.com (pcsva204.sasken.com [10.1.65.204]) by sunsv2.sasken.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14631 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:38:05 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <3B5E7EA0.55C9B8AF@sasken.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:39:04 +0530 From: Rajesh P Jain Organization: SASKEN Communication Technologies Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Reservation Styles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Image] "Hi", Can anyone explain the reservation at each of the link with reference to the above diagram ?? I just want to understand the Reservation Merging with respect to the above scenario. Also, if someone could give a detailed explainaton with respect to different reservation styles. TIA Rajesh P Jain From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 25 13:15:36 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA12536 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA27333 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27328 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from samar.sasken.com (samar.sasken.com [164.164.56.2]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6P88qL06012 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from samar (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by samar.sasken.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f6P88cg24107 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:38:38 +0530 (IST) Received: from sasken.com (pcsva204.sasken.com [10.1.65.204]) by sunsv2.sasken.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14631 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:38:05 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <3B5E7EA0.55C9B8AF@sasken.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:39:04 +0530 From: Rajesh P Jain Organization: SASKEN Communication Technologies Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Reservation Styles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Image] "Hi", Can anyone explain the reservation at each of the link with reference to the above diagram ?? I just want to understand the Reservation Merging with respect to the above scenario. Also, if someone could give a detailed explainaton with respect to different reservation styles. TIA Rajesh P Jain From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 25 13:56:00 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA16858 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA29970 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29965 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ureach.com (mail.ureach.com [63.150.151.36]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6PGXFL23571 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www21.ureach.com (IDENT:root@www21.ureach.com [172.16.2.49]) by ureach.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19778; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:32:51 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www21.ureach.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA00835; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:32:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:32:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200107251632.MAA00835@www21.ureach.com> To: "Manoj Agiwal" , "'rsvp@isi.edu'" From: Anouk Rocher Reply-to: Subject: Re: Conversion of Bandwidth to QoS parameters . cc: "'mpls@UU.NET'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-vsuite-type: e Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Manoj, I had asked a similar question a few weeks ago (look in the archives). If you receive anything more detailed do please repost it. But basically the whole thing boils down to a) there is no standard/interoperable way of doing this (and while I can't speak from direct experience, I will be surprised if any of the interoperability labs test things like this). b) one approach is to use the standard parameters defined for intserv controlled load (or guaranteed service if that suits you better) service and the parameters from the TSPEC, ADSPEC and FLOWSPEC that your platform can use. Typically bandwidth X will convert to something like Token-rate X. Anouk. ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ---- On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Manoj Agiwal (ManojA@netbrahma.com) wrote: > Hi , > What is the way in which we can convert the bandwidth to QoS > parameters viz. Traffic Spec Rate , Bucket Size , Peak Rate , Minimum > Police > Unit and Maximum Packet Size . > > When the end user request for reservations he will mention > Bandwidth > to be reserved , in case of RSVP-TE reservation will get initiated from > ingress router . Thus is there any way we can map Bandwidth to QoS > parameters . > > Regards , > Manoj > > From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Jul 25 17:40:23 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id RAA11865 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20506 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20501 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6PKFaL27570 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.39]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GH100N7XPLG2O@firewall.mcit.com> for rsvp@isi.edu; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:15:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GH100F01PJHZN@pmismtp04.wcomnet.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:15:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lyao ([166.60.19.230]) by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GH100E98PIX7K@pmismtp04.wcomnet.com>; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:13:47 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:56:04 -0400 From: Lei Yao Subject: RE: Conversion of Bandwidth to QoS parameters . In-reply-to: <200107251632.MAA00835@www21.ureach.com> To: anouk@ureach.com, Manoj Agiwal , rsvp@ISI.EDU Cc: mpls@UU.NET Reply-to: lei.yao@wcom.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We did raise concern on this. See the following draft: - draft-mcdysan-diffserv-consistent-meter-00.txt -----Original Message----- From: owner-mpls@UU.NET [mailto:owner-mpls@UU.NET]On Behalf Of Anouk Rocher Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 12:33 PM To: Manoj Agiwal; 'rsvp@isi.edu' Cc: 'mpls@UU.NET' Subject: Re: Conversion of Bandwidth to QoS parameters . Manoj, I had asked a similar question a few weeks ago (look in the archives). If you receive anything more detailed do please repost it. But basically the whole thing boils down to a) there is no standard/interoperable way of doing this (and while I can't speak from direct experience, I will be surprised if any of the interoperability labs test things like this). b) one approach is to use the standard parameters defined for intserv controlled load (or guaranteed service if that suits you better) service and the parameters from the TSPEC, ADSPEC and FLOWSPEC that your platform can use. Typically bandwidth X will convert to something like Token-rate X. Anouk. ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ---- On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Manoj Agiwal (ManojA@netbrahma.com) wrote: > Hi , > What is the way in which we can convert the bandwidth to QoS > parameters viz. Traffic Spec Rate , Bucket Size , Peak Rate , Minimum > Police > Unit and Maximum Packet Size . > > When the end user request for reservations he will mention > Bandwidth > to be reserved , in case of RSVP-TE reservation will get initiated from > ingress router . Thus is there any way we can map Bandwidth to QoS > parameters . > > Regards , > Manoj > > From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Jul 26 14:00:02 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA27257 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA14563 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 01:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA14558 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 01:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcsmail.patni.com ([203.124.139.197]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6Q8i5L16263 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 01:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcsbom.patni.com (pcsbom.patni.com [204.165.186.25]) by pcsmail.patni.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA30586 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:31:05 +0530 Received: from incoming.patni.com (incoming.patni.com [192.168.0.8]) by pcsbom.patni.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21393 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:31:54 +0530 (IST) Received: from akash.patni.com ([192.168.0.12]) by incoming.patni.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 66) with SMTP id M2001072614181825333 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:18:18 +0530 Received: from pcp31786 ([192.168.16.79]) by akash.patni.com (8.11.0/SCO5) with SMTP id f6Q8FWm07032 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:45:33 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <025f01c115b0$474f6ee0$4f10a8c0@pcp31786> From: "amit limaye" To: Subject: default Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:22:06 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0250_01C115DE.59282250" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0250_01C115DE.59282250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello could somebody suggest dafault values for the various components = of flowspec or suugest documentation where i could get it -SIGTERM amit To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide = a test load. ------=_NextPart_000_0250_01C115DE.59282250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hello could somebody suggest dafault = values for the=20 various components of flowspec or suugest documentation where i could = get=20 it

-SIGTERM

amit

To the systems programmer, users and = applications=20 serve only to provide a
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------=_NextPart_000_0250_01C115DE.59282250-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 27 00:40:30 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id AAA07656 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21068 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 20:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21063 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 20:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from india.mercurykr.com ([165.133.13.60]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6R3tsL11194 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 20:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amar (kapil [165.133.13.19]) by india.mercurykr.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04956 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:17:18 -0600 (GMT) Message-ID: <000f01c11650$18a44ca0$130d85a5@dti.daewoo.co.kr> From: "Amarendra" To: References: <025f01c115b0$474f6ee0$4f10a8c0@pcp31786> Subject: Static IntServ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:26:14 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1167E.2E8764C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1167E.2E8764C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, While going through RSVP MIB (RFC 2206) I came across terms "static = PATH" and "static RESV". Can any one put some light on the differences = between "static PATH" and normal PATH ? In what all cases this is useful ? Regards Amarendra ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1167E.2E8764C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

While going through RSVP MIB (RFC 2206) = I came=20 across terms "static PATH" and "static RESV". Can any one put some light = on the=20 differences between "static PATH" and normal PATH ?

In what all cases this is useful = ?

Regards

Amarendra

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1167E.2E8764C0-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 27 09:25:08 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id JAA16361 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA16658 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 05:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16653 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcsmail.patni.com ([203.124.139.197]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6RClLL19161 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 05:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcsbom.patni.com (pcsbom.patni.com [204.165.186.25]) by pcsmail.patni.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00716 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:34:12 +0530 Received: from antivirusgw.patni.com (antivirusgw.patni.com [204.165.186.154]) by pcsbom.patni.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00111 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:35:24 +0530 (IST) Received: from akash.patni.com ([192.168.0.12]) by antivirusgw.patni.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 66) with SMTP id M2001072718204114504 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:20:41 +0530 Received: from pcp31786 ([192.168.16.79]) by akash.patni.com (8.11.0/SCO5) with SMTP id f6RCIpN27339 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:48:52 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <015101c1169b$769fa340$4f10a8c0@pcp31786> From: "amit limaye" To: Subject: srcport Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:25:36 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014C_01C116C9.878236E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C116C9.878236E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The RSVP server is supposed to set the src port for the Application in = the Sender template how sitting with the or above the transport layer . the source port assigned to the application is assigned by the OS and = the RSVP server need not know about it=20 how do we capture this src port using UDP NECAPSULATION -SIGTERM amit To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide = a test load. ------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C116C9.878236E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The RSVP server is supposed to set the = src port for=20 the Application in the Sender template how sitting with the or above the = transport layer .

the source port assigned to the = application is=20 assigned by the OS and the RSVP server need not know about it =

how do we capture this src port using = UDP=20 NECAPSULATION

-SIGTERM

amit

To the systems programmer, users and = applications=20 serve only to provide a
test load.

------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C116C9.878236E0-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 27 14:49:06 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA19149 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07146 for rsvp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07136 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6RI1IL22898; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:01:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id SAA28816; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:01:18 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:01:18 GMT Message-Id: <200107271801.SAA28816@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, amit.limaye@patni.com Subject: Re: srcport X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul 27 05:52:01 2001 *> From: "amit limaye" *> To: *> Subject: srcport *> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:25:36 +0530 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> X-Priority: 3 *> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal *> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 *> *> The RSVP server is supposed to set the src port for the Application in the Sender template how sitting with the or above the transport layer . *> the source port assigned to the application is assigned by the OS and the RSVP server need not know about it *> how do we capture this src port using UDP NECAPSULATION *> -SIGTERM *> amit *> To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide a *> test load. Might a network nerd suggest that any OS that does not allow an application to learn the source address assigned to a socket is brain-damaged? Bob Braden From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Jul 30 04:22:02 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA07364 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 04:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03776 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03771 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wiproecmx1.wipro.com (wiproecmx1.wipro.com [164.164.31.5]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6U7Ovm08543 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecvwall11.wipro.com (ecvwall1.wipro.com [192.168.181.23]) by wiproecmx1.wipro.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f6UHhOL04197 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:43:25 -0500 (GMT) Received: from wipro.com ([127.0.0.1]) by ecmail.mail.wipro.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GH9Z6400.04M for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:52:52 +0530 From: "Rajesh Advani" To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:22:52 +0500 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: RSVP capability survey X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all , I would like to look at a consolidated survey of QOS , and more specifically, RSVP capabilities in products of today. 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Somebody please clearify.......It might be a stupid one but.....:) While going through RSVP MIB (RFC 2206) I came across terms "static = PATH" and "static RESV". Can any one put some light on the differences = between "static PATH" and normal PATH ? In what all cases this is useful ? Regards Amarendra ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C119F3.08C414E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

Sorry I am sending this query=20 again...

Somebody please clearify.......It might = be a stupid=20 one but.....:)

While going through RSVP MIB (RFC 2206) = I came=20 across terms "static PATH" and "static RESV". Can any one put some light = on the=20 differences between "static PATH" and normal PATH ?

In what all cases this is useful = ?

Regards

Amarendra

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C119F3.08C414E0-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Jul 31 13:14:19 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA00642 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21150 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21145 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6VGGFm06483; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:16:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id QAA01478; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:16:15 GMT Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:16:15 GMT Message-Id: <200107311616.QAA01478@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, amar@mercurykr.com Subject: Re: Static IntServ X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Jul 31 06:38:38 2001 *> From: "Amarendra" *> To: *> Subject: Static IntServ *> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:00:15 +0530 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> X-Priority: 3 *> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal *> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 *> *> Hi all, *> Sorry I am sending this query again... *> Somebody please clearify.......It might be a stupid one but.....:) *> While going through RSVP MIB (RFC 2206) I came across terms "static PATH" and "static RESV". Can any one put some light on the differences between "static PATH" and normal PATH ? *> *> In what all cases this is useful ? *> *> Regards *> Amarendra I suggest you send email directly to the authors listed in RFC 2206, to get their attention. 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Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14159 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14154 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoemail1.firewall.lucent.com (hoemail1.lucent.com [192.11.226.161]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7105sm26429 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nj7460exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-17-42-36.lucent.com [135.17.42.36]) by hoemail1.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f7105qP02378 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nj7460exch001h.ho.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:05:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Jiang, Donghua (Donghua)" To: "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: ResvConf message Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:05:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Hi all, When an intermediate node is going to forward a ResvConf message downstream, the source address of the ResvConf message will be the address of one of the node's outgoing interface (in the sense of hop-by-hop), but the destination address of the ResvConf message will be the address of the receiver that was specified in the RESV_CONFIRM Object in a Resv message. Am I right? Regards, Jane From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Jul 31 21:40:00 2001 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id VAA14771 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16570 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16564 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rumor.cps.intel.com (rumor.cps.intel.com [192.102.198.242]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f710nwm13812 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP (fmsmsxvs05-1.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.205]) by rumor.cps.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.41 2001/07/09 21:06:22 root Exp $) with SMTP id AAA15035; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:48:29 GMT Received: from fmsmsx28.fm.intel.com ([132.233.48.28]) by 132.233.48.205 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 00:48:31 0000 (GMT) Received: by fmsmsx28.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:48:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Feng, Mark" To: "'Jiang, Donghua (Donghua)'" , "'rsvp@isi.edu'" Subject: RE: ResvConf message Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:48:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Yes. - Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Jiang, Donghua (Donghua) [mailto:djiang1@lucent.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:06 PM > To: 'rsvp@isi.edu' > Subject: ResvConf message > > > Hi all, > > When an intermediate node is going to forward a ResvConf > message downstream, > the source address of the ResvConf message will be the > address of one of the > node's outgoing interface (in the sense of hop-by-hop), but > the destination > address of the ResvConf message will be the address of the > receiver that was > specified in the RESV_CONFIRM Object in a Resv message. Am I right? > > Regards, > Jane >