http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-93-taps

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= --Apple-Mail=_F10CFC30-2A47-4B67-B95D-73198CD9CF00-- From nobody Thu Aug 6 01:50:47 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7801B2A1A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 01:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5OfUy2Bzuq3T for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 01:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75D601B2A16 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 01:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D15D930B; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:50:41 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id sgl+YcHluHyJ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:50:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.178.33] (x5f71b0a0.dyn.telefonica.de [95.113.176.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mirjak) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9EFB9D930A; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:50:40 +0200 (MEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) From: =?utf-8?Q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:50:39 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <45FD8A6B-EE3C-44E7-9561-42BAE22ABE3C@tik.ee.ethz.ch> References: To: Aaron Falk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) Archived-At: Cc: taps@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Taps] draft minutes -- please review X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 08:50:45 -0000 Hi Aaron, thanks for preparing this! I think the conclusion at the very end about = congestion control was that we want to mention that there are different = kinds of congestion control (as it is already done in the doc) but there = is no need to e.g. describe LEDBAT in detail. Could you please add a = quick statement here, because the minutes read differently right now. Thanks, Mirja > Am 05.08.2015 um 23:54 schrieb Aaron Falk : >=20 > I did a light clean up of the Etherpad minutes (thanks, Ken!). Please = take a look, fix what has been attributed to you, and send a thumbs-up = to this list. >=20 > http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-93-taps >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > =E2=80=94aaron > _______________________________________________ > Taps mailing list > Taps@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps From nobody Thu Aug 6 03:47:34 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8531B2C83 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 03:47:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.61 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.61 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yxDGb7DsPKeU for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 03:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.erg.abdn.ac.uk (pegasus.erg.abdn.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:241:204::f0f0]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65F01B2C6F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 03:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Gs-MacBook-Pro.local (fgrpf.plus.com [212.159.18.54]) by pegasus.erg.abdn.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E9FBE1B00215; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:47:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <55C33B3D.8030703@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 11:47:25 +0100 From: Gorry Fairhurst Organization: University of Aberdeen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?TWlyamEgS8O8aGxld2luZA==?= References: <45FD8A6B-EE3C-44E7-9561-42BAE22ABE3C@tik.ee.ethz.ch> In-Reply-To: <45FD8A6B-EE3C-44E7-9561-42BAE22ABE3C@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: Aaron Falk , taps@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Taps] draft minutes -- please review X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 10:47:33 -0000 On 06/08/2015 09:50, Mirja Kühlewind wrote: > ant to mention that there are different kinds of congestion control (as it is already done in the doc) but there is no need to e.g. describe LEDBAT in detail. I fixed some minor English NiTS and added this to the Etherpad version: http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-93-taps Gorry From nobody Thu Aug 6 08:45:26 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A8E1B2F83 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 08:45:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ULO6lrECrFPp for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 08:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x22d.google.com (mail-qg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DFE21B3054 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 08:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qgeg42 with SMTP id g42so18855897qge.1 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 08:45:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=gELAs9Frc3SWIjb+fFWnpDLBw3zYQ3Oh+lT2p0NNCRs=; b=ZnLLNGdUMYWwl/jQ7NmuehZtai7bV2aH6IdpEDWMc+a5xrXKQ9WVdn4ArzcczQZmga g9QroddvSpZzT9TMLXV36rRapdJ2jlz10BZ6V9fDqlykZJupydioVPQVUIvNKz2slpeD LShOgMNvBxEP9GFMBZAoW12x42VLo4WUHxuPBJbREpaJpDlbY10PtZzhrjF5cL4XArj6 ToE0W7VOT33STlsgqDNAFl+9IBsspQLbR3Bkby3BrXlIajTLrY4c2wWQOKlzNGvSZOkt o6sJtjmAGit54MJMZaqSzFP84ewr0cFN/PNWGfvj1ACtDmmnSge2BXUb0tE/7sS+niay A4rg== X-Received: by 10.140.152.141 with SMTP id 135mr4570210qhy.2.1438875921716; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 08:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.30.22.222] ([72.246.0.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d11sm3368273qgd.31.2015.08.06.08.45.21 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Aug 2015 08:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) From: Aaron Falk In-Reply-To: <45FD8A6B-EE3C-44E7-9561-42BAE22ABE3C@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:45:20 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <10CA96EE-0D2C-4088-A4ED-D1EEF98D32BD@gmail.com> References: <45FD8A6B-EE3C-44E7-9561-42BAE22ABE3C@tik.ee.ethz.ch> To: =?utf-8?Q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) Archived-At: Cc: taps@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Taps] draft minutes -- please review X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:45:25 -0000 Thanks, Mirja. I tried to clarify what=E2=80=99s there. Please take a = look. =E2=80=94aaron > On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:50 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind = wrote: >=20 > Hi Aaron, >=20 > thanks for preparing this! I think the conclusion at the very end = about congestion control was that we want to mention that there are = different kinds of congestion control (as it is already done in the doc) = but there is no need to e.g. describe LEDBAT in detail. Could you please = add a quick statement here, because the minutes read differently right = now. >=20 > Thanks, > Mirja >=20 >=20 >> Am 05.08.2015 um 23:54 schrieb Aaron Falk : >>=20 >> I did a light clean up of the Etherpad minutes (thanks, Ken!). = Please take a look, fix what has been attributed to you, and send a = thumbs-up to this list. >>=20 >> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-93-taps >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> =E2=80=94aaron >> _______________________________________________ >> Taps mailing list >> Taps@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps >=20 From nobody Thu Aug 6 09:11:26 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092271B3AFD for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:11:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uDTqGiXbVXVE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E48B81B3132 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 09:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1D3D930B; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:11:20 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id OLhiwHIBXRVJ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:11:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.178.33] (x5f71b0a0.dyn.telefonica.de [95.113.176.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mirjak) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58516D930A; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:11:20 +0200 (MEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) From: =?utf-8?Q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= In-Reply-To: <10CA96EE-0D2C-4088-A4ED-D1EEF98D32BD@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:11:19 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <24343C4C-AC7A-4889-8868-F1769728E020@tik.ee.ethz.ch> References: <45FD8A6B-EE3C-44E7-9561-42BAE22ABE3C@tik.ee.ethz.ch> <10CA96EE-0D2C-4088-A4ED-D1EEF98D32BD@gmail.com> To: Aaron Falk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) Archived-At: Cc: taps@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Taps] draft minutes -- please review X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:11:25 -0000 Works, thanks! > Am 06.08.2015 um 17:45 schrieb Aaron Falk : >=20 > Thanks, Mirja. I tried to clarify what=E2=80=99s there. Please take = a look. >=20 > =E2=80=94aaron >=20 >=20 >> On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:50 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind = wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Aaron, >>=20 >> thanks for preparing this! I think the conclusion at the very end = about congestion control was that we want to mention that there are = different kinds of congestion control (as it is already done in the doc) = but there is no need to e.g. describe LEDBAT in detail. Could you please = add a quick statement here, because the minutes read differently right = now. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Mirja >>=20 >>=20 >>> Am 05.08.2015 um 23:54 schrieb Aaron Falk : >>>=20 >>> I did a light clean up of the Etherpad minutes (thanks, Ken!). = Please take a look, fix what has been attributed to you, and send a = thumbs-up to this list. >>>=20 >>> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-93-taps >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>>=20 >>> =E2=80=94aaron >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Taps mailing list >>> Taps@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps >>=20 From nobody Fri Aug 7 08:40:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC5E1B2E50 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 08:40:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kK3AIlVeDTbQ for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 08:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD1CC1B2E7F for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2015 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qkdg63 with SMTP id g63so38317190qkd.0 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=F9Ys/AljAO2+O75rmGlnUOiLLzZOL8mOqseKnlQVFJE=; b=SOP4UpKvNinM1vhFNUbtcFJ7l9/gwaThadWNWRiFylS+C227BhVyxn2sBPMOK4T/y5 L1iibWkgpAVuBPYJpIjuGRLi0/iPbxZwH7BofxIKYlPCp73EEeseb/VE6G5B4sSxXjSI H3XrmMNCymIaP3n7rBbieXxACuBpmrHSCWx/k9ewRmqOP76K4TLWmLvo8wLQC2Y4gO1B mgUp3FU1Y7+/mIDjTB5fDEyjySfvetlrnoJ6/Z2FvfTGFmdEjxSvRSJqY7JBCFGPxM3N UEcnSLS35Mfq5uhryfqajXcfNuFLGg5II0ZfyJX2jvAG8+JTa6z0e2b/3Cb23+LP8hLa Lkcg== X-Received: by 10.55.22.220 with SMTP id 89mr14330883qkw.74.1438962022044; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.30.22.222] ([72.246.0.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o22sm4392739qkh.25.2015.08.07.08.40.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) From: Aaron Falk In-Reply-To: <24343C4C-AC7A-4889-8868-F1769728E020@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 11:40:21 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <531EEAF6-2D6D-4427-BE14-C9B88BD279DE@gmail.com> References: <45FD8A6B-EE3C-44E7-9561-42BAE22ABE3C@tik.ee.ethz.ch> <10CA96EE-0D2C-4088-A4ED-D1EEF98D32BD@gmail.com> <24343C4C-AC7A-4889-8868-F1769728E020@tik.ee.ethz.ch> To: taps@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Taps] draft minutes -- please review X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 15:40:54 -0000 Any other comments? Are these minutes ready to submit? =E2=80=94aaron > On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind = wrote: >=20 > Works, thanks! >=20 >> Am 06.08.2015 um 17:45 schrieb Aaron Falk : >>=20 >> Thanks, Mirja. I tried to clarify what=E2=80=99s there. Please take = a look. >>=20 >> =E2=80=94aaron >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:50 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi Aaron, >>>=20 >>> thanks for preparing this! I think the conclusion at the very end = about congestion control was that we want to mention that there are = different kinds of congestion control (as it is already done in the doc) = but there is no need to e.g. describe LEDBAT in detail. Could you please = add a quick statement here, because the minutes read differently right = now. >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>> Mirja >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> Am 05.08.2015 um 23:54 schrieb Aaron Falk : >>>>=20 >>>> I did a light clean up of the Etherpad minutes (thanks, Ken!). = Please take a look, fix what has been attributed to you, and send a = thumbs-up to this list. >>>>=20 >>>> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-93-taps >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>>=20 >>>> =E2=80=94aaron >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Taps mailing list >>>> Taps@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps >>>=20 >=20