Re: Duplicate subscription to tictoc

We want to = get together=20 on Wednesday = 15-17 (before the plenary) .

Is this OK = for=20 all?

Kurt - can = you arrange=20 for a room ?

Y(J)S

= ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FDDD.CF586F52-- --===============2146435647== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc --===============2146435647==-- From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 02 11:55:55 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffr9-0007pR-AD; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:55:55 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffr7-0007hU-FW for tictoc@ietf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:55:53 -0500 Received: from lemland.kurtis.pp.se ([2001:670:87:2:20e:a6ff:fe3c:6a8b]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffr6-0006VP-36 for tictoc@ietf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:55:53 -0500 Received: from [172.16.67.186] (unknown [83.210.12.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by lemland.kurtis.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B457F78C0A; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:55:47 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <457D36D9D89B5B47BC06DA869B1C815D02386069@exrad3.ad.rad.co.il> References: <457D36D9D89B5B47BC06DA869B1C815D02386069@exrad3.ad.rad.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2840EF08-DC3E-492E-B8A1-BBF0415F7D6D@kurtis.pp.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist Subject: Re: [TICTOC] Informal Meeting in SD Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:55:36 +0100 To: Yaakov Stein X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Cc: tictoc@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org On 1 nov 2006, at 18.47, Yaakov Stein wrote: > We want to get together on Wednesday 15-17 (before the plenary) . > > Is this OK for all? > > Kurt - can you arrange for a room ? > Done. It's the IAB breakout room called "Executive Center 1". 15-17 Wed. I will be there! - kurtis - _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 02 12:01:01 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffw5-0005va-Gx; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:01:01 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffw4-0005vU-Gw for tictoc@ietf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:01:00 -0500 Received: from mx2-012.rad.co.il ([212.199.240.16] helo=antivir2.rad.co.il) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffvz-0006x8-VR for tictoc@ietf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:01:00 -0500 Received: from exrad3.rad.co.il (HELO exrad3.ad.rad.co.il) ([192.114.24.112]) by antivir2.rad.co.il with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2006 19:00:50 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 19:00:38 +0200 Message-ID: <457D36D9D89B5B47BC06DA869B1C815D0244F7CB@exrad3.ad.rad.co.il> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: informal tictoc BOF Thread-Index: Acb+oGurG22UP3rcQAGRDDGsUPdulA== From: "Yaakov Stein" To: , "Sasha Vainshtein" , "Stewart Bryant" , "Kurt Erik Lindqvist" , "Mark Elliot" , , , "Doug Arnold" , "Bob Biskner $rbiskner$" , "Brian Haberman" , "Odonoghue, Karen F CIV B35-Branch" , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Cc: Mark Townsley Subject: [TICTOC] informal tictoc BOF X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1462215064==" Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1462215064== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6FEA0.77CE2C71" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FEA0.77CE2C71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There will be an informal tictoc BOF on Wednesday at 15:00 - 17:00. =20 Room to be announced.=20 =20 Y(J)S ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FEA0.77CE2C71 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There = will be an=20 informal tictoc BOF on Wednesday at 15:00 - = 17:00.

Room = to be=20 announced.

Y(J)S

------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FEA0.77CE2C71-- --===============1462215064== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc --===============1462215064==-- From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 07 13:37:08 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhVoq-0003Cx-BD; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:37:08 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhVop-0003Be-Rp for tictoc@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:37:07 -0500 Received: from mx100.qos.net.il ([80.74.96.6]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhVon-0003qi-8d for tictoc@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:37:07 -0500 Received: from mail.axerra.com (webmail.axerra.com [80.74.100.75]) by mx100.qos.net.il (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F6914EF3A for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:28:11 +0200 (IST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:36:54 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: The room for the informal BOF meeting Thread-Index: AccCm7KP59d+OPfGRY+5Qfz47AEtrA== From: "Sasha Vainshtein" To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Cc: tictoc@ietf.org Subject: [TICTOC] The room for the informal BOF meeting X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0770940517==" Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0770940517== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7029B.B4EF555E" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7029B.B4EF555E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kurtis, Is the location of the informla Tictoc meeting (the IAB breakout room = called "Executive Center 1") final? Your email to the list names this place, but the consequtive Yaakov's = email ony says "room to be announced". =20 Regards and thanks in advance, Sasha ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7029B.B4EF555E Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Kurtis,

=0A=

Is the location of the informla Tictoc = meeting =0A= (the IAB breakout room called "Executive = Center =0A= 1") final?

=0A=

Your email to the list names this = place, but the =0A= consequtive Yaakov's email ony says "room to be announced".

=0A=

Regards and thanks in = advance,

=0A=

&nbs= p; = ; =0A= Sasha

------_=_NextPart_001_01C7029B.B4EF555E-- --===============0770940517== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc --===============0770940517==-- From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 07 13:39:04 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhVqi-0004wC-L6; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:39:04 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhVqh-0004vF-Kp for tictoc@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:39:03 -0500 Received: from mx2-012.rad.co.il ([212.199.240.16] helo=antivir2.rad.co.il) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhVqg-00049R-81 for tictoc@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:39:03 -0500 Received: from exrad3.rad.co.il (HELO exrad3.ad.rad.co.il) ([192.114.24.112]) by antivir2.rad.co.il with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2006 20:39:01 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:39:01 +0200 Message-ID: <457D36D9D89B5B47BC06DA869B1C815D02522309@exrad3.ad.rad.co.il> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: The room for the informal BOF meeting Thread-Index: AccCm7KP59d+OPfGRY+5Qfz47AEtrAAADEJg From: "Yaakov Stein" To: "Sasha Vainshtein" , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3002fc2e661cd7f114cb6bae92fe88f1 Cc: tictoc@ietf.org Subject: [TICTOC] RE: The room for the informal BOF meeting X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0337499115==" Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0337499115== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7029B.FDFC87E6" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7029B.FDFC87E6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, my mail was when we mistakenly had 2 rooms! =20 We are going to meet in Executive Center 1 (IAB room) =20 Y(J)S ________________________________ From: Sasha Vainshtein [mailto:Sasha@AXERRA.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 20:37 To: kurtis@kurtis.pp.se Cc: Yaakov Stein; tictoc@ietf.org Subject: The room for the informal BOF meeting Kurtis, Is the location of the informla Tictoc meeting (the IAB breakout room called "Executive Center 1") final? Your email to the list names this place, but the consequtive Yaakov's email ony says "room to be announced". =20 Regards and thanks in advance, Sasha ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7029B.FDFC87E6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

yes,=20 my mail was when we mistakenly had 2 rooms!

We are=20 going to meet in Executive Center 1 (IAB room)

Y(J)S

From: Sasha Vainshtein = [mailto:Sasha@AXERRA.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 20:37
To:=20 kurtis@kurtis.pp.se
Cc: Yaakov Stein;=20 tictoc@ietf.org
Subject: The room for the informal BOF=20 meeting

Kurtis,

Is the location of the informla Tictoc = meeting=20 (the IAB breakout room called "Executive = Center=20 1") final?

Your email to the list names this = place, but the=20 consequtive Yaakov's email ony says "room to be announced".

Regards and thanks in = advance,

&nbs= p; = ; =20 Sasha

------_=_NextPart_001_01C7029B.FDFC87E6-- --===============0337499115== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc --===============0337499115==-- From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 07 17:21:20 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZJo-0008KB-1D; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:21:20 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZJn-0008K0-6e for tictoc@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:21:19 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhZJl-0006j8-T9 for tictoc@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:21:19 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.79]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2006 14:21:16 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,397,1157353200"; d="scan'208"; a="340465493:sNHT1181639312" Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com (sj-core-4.cisco.com [171.68.223.138]) by sj-dkim-5.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kA7MLGSb018622; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:21:16 -0800 Received: from [10.21.112.153] (sjc-vpn2-153.cisco.com [10.21.112.153]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id kA7MLAOV022663; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:21:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <455106CD.1030808@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:21:01 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yaakov Stein Subject: Re: [TICTOC] RE: The room for the informal BOF meeting References: <457D36D9D89B5B47BC06DA869B1C815D02522309@exrad3.ad.rad.co.il> In-Reply-To: <457D36D9D89B5B47BC06DA869B1C815D02522309@exrad3.ad.rad.co.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=1116; t=1162938076; x=1163802076; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim5002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=stbryant@cisco.com; z=From:Stewart=20Bryant=20 |Subject:Re=3A=20[TICTOC]=20RE=3A=20The=20room=20for=20the=20informal=20BOF=20mee ting; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3DuHgzz71EM7dZy9MKL6EMCXiSA2o=3D; b=eBl0FmzNgYl2/r4kPqtVQVAmyurA7WLmx196Zs5mJ0NJmb+5NGHnS3nKEsyJJbjRouGRv1LC hhOMeZHHv/Lk1nX+hordI1qT2njW2KKzkXleoGAI780tO/P7B4GU4qAR; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-5.cisco.com; header.From=stbryant@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d Cc: tictoc@ietf.org, Sasha Vainshtein X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Yaakov Stein wrote: > yes, my mail was when we mistakenly had 2 rooms! > > We are going to meet in Executive Center 1 (IAB room) > > Y(J)S Can you remind me of the time? Also is there anyone who might not be on this list that we need to invite? - Stewart > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Sasha Vainshtein [mailto:Sasha@AXERRA.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 20:37 > To: kurtis@kurtis.pp.se > Cc: Yaakov Stein; tictoc@ietf.org > Subject: The room for the informal BOF meeting > > Kurtis, > Is the location of the informla Tictoc meeting (the IAB breakout room > called "Executive Center 1") final? > Your email to the list names this place, but the consequtive Yaakov's > email ony says "room to be announced". > > Regards and thanks in advance, > Sasha > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TICTOC mailing list > TICTOC@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 08 12:33:24 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhrIi-0002WM-JK; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:33:24 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhrIi-0002VN-0B for tictoc@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:33:24 -0500 Received: from lemland.kurtis.pp.se ([2001:670:87:2:20e:a6ff:fe3c:6a8b]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhrIe-0005Qo-Sd for tictoc@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:33:23 -0500 Received: from [130.129.65.131] (dhcp65-131.ietf67.org [130.129.65.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by lemland.kurtis.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B04078C3A; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:33:14 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <455106CD.1030808@cisco.com> References: <457D36D9D89B5B47BC06DA869B1C815D02522309@exrad3.ad.rad.co.il> <455106CD.1030808@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2E54C19F-8E47-455B-927F-63AFB6645674@kurtis.pp.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist Subject: Re: [TICTOC] RE: The room for the informal BOF meeting Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:33:10 +0100 To: Stewart Bryant X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Cc: tictoc@ietf.org, Sasha Vainshtein X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org On 7 nov 2006, at 23.21, Stewart Bryant wrote: > Yaakov Stein wrote: > >> yes, my mail was when we mistakenly had 2 rooms! >> We are going to meet in Executive Center 1 (IAB room) >> Y(J)S > > Can you remind me of the time? > > Also is there anyone who might not be on this list that we > need to invite? 15.00-17.00. I think Marshall Eubanks also wanted to attend. - kurtis - _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 08 12:50:07 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhrYt-0002mY-4F; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:50:07 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhrYs-0002mP-Al for tictoc@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:50:06 -0500 Received: from mx2-012.rad.co.il ([212.199.240.16] helo=antivir2.rad.co.il) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhrYq-00083W-1g for tictoc@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:50:06 -0500 Received: from exrad3.rad.co.il (HELO exrad3.ad.rad.co.il) ([192.114.24.112]) by antivir2.rad.co.il with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2006 19:49:59 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:49:58 +0200 Message-ID: <457D36D9D89B5B47BC06DA869B1C815D02522821@exrad3.ad.rad.co.il> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: REMINDER and MEETING ROOM CHANGE Thread-Index: AccDXk7CvUhY1IyXSbaJPjdvzGKSaQ== From: "Yaakov Stein" To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 Cc: "Bob Biskner $rbiskner$" , Doug Arnold , dcferguson@netvigator.com, tme@multicasttech.com, roll@Stupi.SE, Sasha Vainshtein Subject: [TICTOC] REMINDER and MEETING ROOM CHANGE X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1222367122==" Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1222367122== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7035E.4EBCD93A" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7035E.4EBCD93A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well I said that the room was liable to change ... =20 The tictoc meeting will be held in Nautilus 2 (lower floor) 15:00 - 17:00 today. =20 Y(J)S =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7035E.4EBCD93A Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well I = said that the=20 room was liable to change ...

The = tictoc meeting=20 will be held in Nautilus 2 (lower floor)

15:00 = - 17:00=20 today.

Y(J)S

------_=_NextPart_001_01C7035E.4EBCD93A-- --===============1222367122== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc --===============1222367122==-- From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 08 13:29:28 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhsAy-00069R-An; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:29:28 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhsAx-00069M-Ez for tictoc@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:29:27 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhsAw-0005uW-4j for tictoc@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:29:27 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.79]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2006 10:29:25 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,401,1157353200"; d="scan'208"; a="340829450:sNHT353588232" Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (sj-core-3.cisco.com [171.68.223.137]) by sj-dkim-5.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id kA8ITOBF022863; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:29:24 -0800 Received: from [10.21.112.114] (sjc-vpn2-114.cisco.com [10.21.112.114]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id kA8ITHbF029952; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 10:29:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <455221F4.8020407@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:29:08 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bob Biskner (rbiskner)" References: <7FE6845B1F8A264E9E03562D7EBB225C02A108A9@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <7FE6845B1F8A264E9E03562D7EBB225C02A108A9@xmb-sjc-22b.amer.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=291; t=1163010565; x=1163874565; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim5002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=stbryant@cisco.com; z=From:Stewart=20Bryant=20 |Subject:Re=3A=20REMINDER=20and=20MEETING=20ROOM=20CHANGE; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3DaBCqJ8Mx+HhT6fuPW8kWApiTlCM=3D; b=B13iUzdSPoNMajTKZmuhpj9Zy0o5HqtKiBC3bdLVcYUFNRpZia+C9IHYZjfR69/oR7C/2SXq 3OMa2p4F0KqzCog6/u9kb8VRNbpbSrHw0prFGp+sdoivElAcIpLhqOa4; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-5.cisco.com; header.From=stbryant@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: Doug Arnold , dcferguson@netvigator.com, tme@multicasttech.com, tictoc@ietf.org, roll@Stupi.SE, Sasha Vainshtein Subject: [TICTOC] Re: REMINDER and MEETING ROOM CHANGE X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Bob Biskner (rbiskner) wrote: > Hey, > Has someone set up a bridge for this meeting? I am down in sleepy > Santa Barbara....celebrating the election returns :-)) Not that I am aware of - but we could set up a skype or a softphone link to you from one of the PCs. - Stewart _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 08 18:36:27 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghwy3-0002xT-0n; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:36:27 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghwy1-0002xO-Lr for tictoc@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:36:25 -0500 Received: from mx2-012.rad.co.il ([212.199.240.16] helo=antivir2.rad.co.il) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ghwy0-0006Aa-AA for tictoc@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:36:25 -0500 Received: from exrad3.rad.co.il (HELO exrad3.ad.rad.co.il) ([192.114.24.112]) by antivir2.rad.co.il with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2006 01:36:20 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 01:36:18 +0200 Message-ID: <457D36D9D89B5B47BC06DA869B1C815D02522845@exrad3.ad.rad.co.il> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: NTPv4 req doc Thread-Index: AccDjrCLTJjxnD+AQ/C/DydX3JZcbA== From: "Yaakov Stein" To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Subject: [TICTOC] NTPv4 req doc X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0446336008==" Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0446336008== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7038E.B0FD0579" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7038E.B0FD0579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://smakd.potaroo.net/ietf/idref/draft-ietf-ntp-reqs/index.html ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7038E.B0FD0579 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Hey,

Has someone set up a bridge for = this meeting? I=20 am down in sleepy Santa Barbara....celebrating the election returns :-)) =

thanks,

bob

From: Yaakov Stein = [mailto:yaakov_s@rad.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:50 AM
To:=20 tictoc@ietf.org
Cc: tme@multicasttech.com; Bob Biskner = (rbiskner);=20 dcferguson@netvigator.com; roll@Stupi.SE; Doug Arnold; Sasha Vainshtein; = Stewart=20 Bryant (stbryant)
Subject: REMINDER and MEETING ROOM=20 CHANGE

Well I = said that the=20 room was liable to change ...

The = tictoc meeting=20 will be held in Nautilus 2 (lower floor)

15:00 = - 17:00=20 today.

Y(J)S

------_=_NextPart_001_01C70363.76585EEA-- --===============0429750902== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc --===============0429750902==-- From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 11 07:46:17 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GisFV-0008Ng-Fy; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:46:17 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GisFU-0008NZ-Di for tictoc@ietf.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:46:16 -0500 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GisFO-0005DL-5Q for tictoc@ietf.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:46:16 -0500 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP id 5486695 for tictoc@ietf.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:46:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) References: <45557835.8000607@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:45:56 -0500 To: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9ed51c9d1356100bce94f1ae4ec616a9 Subject: [TICTOC] Fwd: [IVS-v2c] Setting up for TeamSpeak X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Are any of the list members coming to the PTTI in Reston next month ? It might be possible to arrange a get-together (dinner ?) with some interesting people. Also, is there a web page describing the effort ? I am sure that people at the USNO would be interested. I have lunch with Demetrios Matsakis on an irregular basis. Regards Marshall Begin forwarded message: > From: "Tom Clark, K3IO" > Date: November 11, 2006 2:13:57 AM EST > To: Marshall Eubanks > Subject: Re: [IVS-v2c] Setting up for TeamSpeak >> > Yep -- just hadn't answered it yet. Will he still be in town for the > PTTI meeting (http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2006/ptti2006.html) > Dec. 5-7? You too? > > A couple of interesting papers will be given. Tom VanBaak (the Seattle > hobbyist that has a couple of masers, http://leapsecond.com) will give > the Wed PM "fun" talk on his personal GR test taking a Cesium to > the top > of Mt Lassen (also see the world's best wrist watch at > http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-bill/). Thurs afternoon, Rick > Hambly and I will be talking about our latest low-cost timing receiver > activities (http://gpstime.com, http://cnssys.com). > These deliver 50 nanoseconds accuracy for under $ 1000. > If/when we get together, it might be interesting to have Rick join us > too -- he lives in Severna Park. > _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 11 13:47:54 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GixtS-000722-IV; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:47:54 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GixtS-00071j-1O for tictoc@ietf.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:47:54 -0500 Received: from mx100.qos.net.il ([80.74.96.6]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GixtQ-0003Ds-9R for tictoc@ietf.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:47:54 -0500 Received: from mail.axerra.com (webmail.axerra.com [80.74.100.75]) by mx100.qos.net.il (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CB534F098 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:48:10 +0200 (IST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:46:17 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Duplicate subscription to tictoc - testing Thread-Index: AccE4aS1PbniVwIXTICgN2SB82RmsQA4ActM References: <9974F964-3BB3-4183-9150-B4A5D557D62E@kurtis.pp.se> From: "Sasha Vainshtein" To: "Kurt Erik Lindqvist" X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5011df3e2a27abcc044eaa15befcaa87 Cc: tictoc@ietf.org Subject: [TICTOC] RE: Duplicate subscription to tictoc - testing X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0376735259==" Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0376735259== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C705C1.DA2F5CB4" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C705C1.DA2F5CB4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a test message to check whether my subscrition works. Please ignore. =20 Regards, Sasha ________________________________ From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist [mailto:kurtis@kurtis.pp.se] Sent: Fri 11/10/2006 04:01 To: Sasha Vainshtein Subject: Re: Duplicate subscription to tictoc Sasha, On 6 nov 2006, at 19.33, Sasha Vainshtein wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam, > I've received a privacy alert message after attempting to re- > subscribe myself to the tictoc mailing list. > > The reason for re-subscription was the fact that I have somehow=20 > stopped receiving tictoc emails. > > Can you please re-check? I see you subscribed as sasha@axerra.com with the option of receiving=20 digests. Do you receive emails now? I don't see any bounces for you. - kurtis - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C705C1.DA2F5CB4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Re: Duplicate subscription to tictoc=0A= =0A= =0A=

=0A=

This is a = test message to =0A= check whether my subscrition works.

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Please ignore.

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Regards,

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&nbs= p; =0A= Sasha

=0A=

=0A= From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist =0A= [mailto:kurtis@kurtis.pp.se]
Sent: Fri 11/10/2006 = 04:01
To: =0A= Sasha Vainshtein
Subject: Re: Duplicate subscription to =0A= tictoc

=0A=

Sasha,

On 6 =0A= nov 2006, at 19.33, Sasha Vainshtein wrote:

> Dear = Sir/Madam,
> =0A= I've received a privacy alert message after attempting to re-
> = subscribe =0A= myself to the tictoc mailing list.
>
> The reason for =0A= re-subscription was the fact that I have somehow
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>
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I see you =0A= subscribed as sasha@axerra.com with the option of = receiving
digests. Do =0A= you receive emails now? I don't see any bounces for you.

- = kurtis =0A= -

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Mail beta. --0-1054245938-1163313680=:90800-- --===============0989254171== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc --===============0989254171==-- From tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 20 09:57:47 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmAah-00021M-2g; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:57:47 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmAag-00021G-69 for tictoc@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:57:46 -0500 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GmAab-0005Nt-S1 for tictoc@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:57:46 -0500 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP id 5520307 for tictoc@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:57:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6247B582-DD7A-43C1-8FDE-0647B0F1A846@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:57:24 -0500 To: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6e922792024732fb1bb6f346e63517e4 Subject: [TICTOC] Fwd: [AVT] 802.1as AVB pitfalls X-BeenThere: tictoc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org Thought this would be of interest. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Marshall Eubanks" > Date: November 20, 2006 9:56:30 AM EST > To: "Marshall Eubanks" > Subject: Fwd: [AVT] 802.1as AVB pitfalls > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Chuck Harrison > Date: Nov 17, 2006 2:19 PM > Subject: [AVT] 802.1as AVB pitfalls > To: STDS-802-1-L@listserv.ieee.org, avt@ietf.org > > > Hi all, > > The IEEE 802.1as WG is moving forward nicely with a spec for > distribution of precise time (basically a "submicrosecond NTP") > for audiovisual media transport thru Ethernet and wifi LANs. > Other 802.1 WGs are active defining genuine bounded-latency QoS > services for a new class of economical LAN bridges that will > support reliable streaming media in the home and elsewhere. > Clearly RTP over IP is a serious candidate for carrying high > fidelity sound and pictures in this environment. > > A basic requirement is that systems based on the 802 "Audio Visual > Bridging" (AVB) standards should "do no harm" compared to the > jungle of patch cables that they replace. That means, for example: > no corrupted data, > no dropped samples, > no increase in sampleclock jitter, > no phase wander between different audio channels in a stereo > or surround-sound installation. > The last three items are timing-related and represent unfamiliar > ground to most of the 802 community. To a great extent the level > of performance (if not the fundamental concepts) is also > unfamiliar ground to the AVT community. > > I would like to raise a few "warning flags" for all engaged with > this project. > > (1) while "submicrosecond NTP" may establish a uniform wallclock > throughout the LAN it will not establish a uniform sample > clock. A digital signal coming in over SPDIF from a component > CD player will have a sample clock derived from its internal > crystal. In a "just play it" application, the sample clock > at the playback DAC must lock to the SPDIF source over the > network. The playback clock cannot be derived "open loop", as > 41000.000 Hz referred to the wallclock, no matter how accurate > the wallclock is. The RTCP SR's mediaclock:wallclock entries > support this if they are carefully used. > (2) audio resampling is an essential function in the overall > application (e.g. mixing 44.1 and 48 ks/sec streams) but > is *not* a generic solution. Witness the Audigy "upsample > everything to 48k" cards which sounded fine but could not > accept AC-3 coded surround sound from a DVD player's SPDIF > output. Also resampling introduces a delay which can be > problematic in an interactive recording situation. > (3) video resampling (frame rate adaptation) is *always* prone > to artifacts. Monitor outputs must lock to the source frame > rate if they are to look as smooth as conventional TV > displays. Video mixing or PIP from unsynchronized sources > is an "unsolved problem", even in the big-budget professional > world - they will always cause some movement irregularities. > (4) in RTP the only thing you can be sure of regarding the wallclock > is that sessions sharing a common SSRC also share a common > wallclock. This is what you need, e.g., for precise lip sync. > In an AVB LAN you would like to think that every RTP session > will use the precision shared clock but this is an > unwarranted assumption. RTP streams will enter the LAN > from external streaming sources (internet media delivery, > teleconference, VoIP) with uncontrolled wallclocks. A "pull" > mindset (e.g. Apple's coreaudio) may have a hard time with > this. > (5) ...continued...Within an 802 AVB LAN, we *will* be able to > rely on wallclock synchronization among, say, several > microphones attached to different PCs, and also hypothetical > "wifi mics". Same SSRC or not? > (6) fast startup is essential. RTP has stubbed its toe on this, > as has NTP; 802.1as may be following in our footsteps. > Just a reminder that this is nontrivial :-) > > This 802 AVB is pretty much green field development, let's do > our best with it the first time out! > > Cheers, > Chuck > > links > http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/avbridges.html > http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/802.1as.html > http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/avt-charter.html > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3550.txt > > _______________________________________________ > Audio/Video Transport Working Group > avt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list TICTOC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc