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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock Working Group of the IETF.
Title : Architecture for the Transmission of Timing over Packet Networks
Author(s) : T. Frost, et al.
Filename : draft-stein-tictoc-modules-03.txt
Pages : 22
Date : 2008-11-03
This Internet draft proposes an architecture for the transmission of
timing over packet networks. It identifies the major functional
components, and maps the current solutions onto this framework.
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Subject: [TICTOC] Fwd: [IVSmail] Fwd: IAU 2009 - JD6 Time and Astronomy
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Thought this might be of interest.
Regards
Marshall
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Behrend, Dirk (GSFC-698.0)[NVI]"
> Date: November 5, 2008 11:36:48 AM EST
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> Subject: [IVSmail] Fwd: IAU 2009 - JD6 Time and Astronomy
>
> FYI.
>
>> Subject: IAU 2009 - JD6 Time and Astronomy
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> I send you here in attachment the first call for the Joint Discussion
> 6
>> "Time and Astronomy" that will be held during the next IAU General
> Assembly,
>> in Rio, August 6-7, 2009.
>>
>> Could you distribute this call to all members of your commission?
>>
>> I thank you in advance,
>> best regards,
>> Pascale
>>
>> --
>> ---------------------------------
>> Pascale DEFRAIGNE (Dr)
>> Royal Observatory of Belgium
>> Avenue Circulaire, 3
>> B-1180 Brussels
>> Belgium
>> Tel : +32-2-373 02 60
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Hi Silvana,
=20
a comment related to table in page 4 (Cellular Backhaul Requirements): =
the LTE can also be deployed with two modes, FDD and TDD.
=20
You could add "TDD" after LTE (fifth column), and add "LTE FDD" in the =
second column.
As for now only 50 ppb have been defined for LTE, perhaps you may add a =
Note related to Frequency stability and accuracy clarifying that for LTE =
only 50 ppb has currently been defined.
=20
Best REgards
Stefano
=20
=20
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Of Silvana.Rodrigues@Zarlink.Com
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All,=20
I have made a revision for the requirements specification. I got =
feedback from several members for the wireless and CES applications, so =
I have put those requirements in the draft document. I also have updated =
the table based on the discussion we had in Dublin.=20
Please, send comments, so we can progress the work.=20
Thanks,=20
Silvana
Yaakov Stein =20
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Hi all,=20
=20
Yesterday the chairs and Silvana, who is co-editor of the requirements =
draft,=20
discussed the progress of this draft.=20
=20
The requirements draft tries to cover quite a number of areas for which =
timing is relevant,=20
and while there has been significant participation from the cellular and =
TDM PW communities,=20
there has been inadequate input on most of the other areas.=20
=20
In particular, for the areas=20
* industrial applications=20
* test and measurement=20
* electric power and teleprotection=20
we have no data other than that "pulled out of the air" at the Paris =
meeting,=20
and no one has expressed interest in providing insights into their =
requirements.=20
=20
On the one hand TICTOC needs to consider all of the applications that =
will need to distribute timing,=20
but on the other hand if groups with interest in particular applications =
do not join in the effort,=20
we will not be able to produce a meaningful document.=20
=20
Please consider this email as a call for participation for the =
aforementioned areas.=20
If you are working or interested in them, please send an email to the =
list.=20
If you know people who are, please forward this email to them.=20
=20
If we do not receive input that we believe reliably reflects the =
requirements of these areas,=20
we will have to drop them from the document, and thus remove them from =
consideration=20
while working on solutions.=20
=20
Y(J)S=20
=20
=20
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Silvana,
a=20
comment related to table in page 4 (Cellular Backhaul =
Requirements):=20
the LTE can also be deployed with two modes, FDD and=20
TDD.
You=20
could add "TDD" after LTE (fifth column), and add "LTE FDD" in the =
second=20
column.
As for=20
now only 50 ppb have been defined for LTE, perhaps you may add a =
Note=20
related to Frequency stability and accuracy clarifying that for LTE only =
50 ppb=20
has currently been defined.
Best=20
REgards
Stefano
From: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org=20
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Silvana.Rodrigues@Zarlink.Com
Sent: marted=EC 21 ottobre =
2008=20
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Subject: [TICTOC] Fw: =
Requirements=20
draft - call for assistance
All,
I have=20
made a revision for the requirements specification. I got feedback from =
several=20
members for the wireless and CES applications, so I have put those =
requirements=20
in the draft document. I also have updated the table based on the =
discussion we=20
had in Dublin.
Please, =
send=20
comments, so we can progress the work.
Thanks,
Silvana
Yaakov Stein=20
<yaakov_s@rad.com> Sent=20
by: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org=20
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Yesterday the chairs and Silvana, who is co-editor =
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timing is relevant,
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* industrial applications
=20
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but on the other hand if groups with interest in particular =
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Agree. There were several interesting documents on the NIST Site. Karen
and I will be attending the PTTI Conference in Virginia two weeks from
now. We'll see if anything relevant is presented.
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I scanned the document, and although it gives some motivation,
I don't see the kind of real numbers that we need to perform
a gap analysis.
I am in contact with a few professors of law in an attempt
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Agree. There were several interesting documents on the NIST Site. Karen and I will be attending the PTTI Conference in Virginia two weeks from now. We'll see if anything relevant is presented.
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Hi all,
I discussed with Marshall the remote telco application.
Marshall admits to being the one who introduced this application
to our list, and explained it as follows.
There are legacy networks with PRCs delivering time to various applications=
.
Since PRCs are expensive to obtain and maintain,
it would be useful to emulate a PRC by distributing timing information
over a packet network to the needed location.
Thereafter, the pseudo-PRC would distribute timing over the legacy network
to the end applications needing it.
Unlike the other cases which we considered,
th remote telco application does not directly consider the actual needs of
the end user, but rather the operating expenses of the service provider.
If we can obtain PRC level of accuracy and stability,
then the end applications will certainly be satisfied,
since they are satisfied with the present service based on a real PRC.
This scenario may often be overkill, as the end applications
may actually require much lower stability and accuracy than provided by a P=
RC.
For this reason, although he believes it to be a useful case,
Marshall is amenable to removing it from the requirements draft.
Y(J)S
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Hi all,
I would just like to make a very short report on the meeting that took place yesterday
with the WG chairs of ROLL - Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks.
>From ROLL : JP Vasseur and David Culler
>From TICTOC : Yaakov and Laurent (Stewart was held up in the routing area meeting)
The point of this meeting was to fill in the matrix column for distributed sensor networks.
For those who have not been following ROLL work,
it is concerned with networks composed of many embedded devices with limited power,
memory, and processing resources. These devices are interconnected by wireless links,
such as low-power WiFi, bluetooth, or IEEE 802.15.4. In order to conserve power
each device sleeps most of the time, and exchanges packets only with nearby devices.
The devices can only contain inexpensive 15ppm crystals, and even these are turned off most of the time.
Since the sensors only communicate with neighbors, the routing is geometry dependent,
and interacts with timing.
There are already two time distribution protocols in this space
FTSP - Flooding Time Synchronization Protocol (available in open source)
TSMP - Time Synchronized Mesh Protocol (proprietary protocol - no full description available)
There are two approaches to handle the interactions between routing and timing.
In one approach timing information is piggybacked on the existing routing protocol,
and thus benefits from the authentication, encryption, etc.
In the other approach the timing is considered more fundamental,
and the routing information is piggybacked over the timing protocol.
>From the timing point of view there are three different applications with different levels of required performance:
1) instrumentation / measurement:
In this application there are mulitple sensors (e.g. temperature sensors) placed around a building
The time accuracies required are on the order of tens of millisec.
2) structural monitoring
Here multiple sensors (e.g. position or motion sensors) are placed on a structure,
and it is required to measure modes of stress or motion.
The time accuracies are sub millisec.
3) TDMA / frequency hoping
Here in addition to the sensor waking up at a specific time, the transmission is frequency agile.
The time accuracy required is 10s of microsec.
David agreed to help fill in our matrix for these three cases.
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As we discussed at this week's TICTOC meeting, I asked the DTN-RG this
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At the TICTOC meeting we agreed to experimentally set up fortnighly
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However I can't remember what time/day we agreed - other than the first
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We agreed the first call next Monday at 6 pm CET; just after our first day =
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As agreed at the last IETF - I have set up a call
on Monday 1st Dec at 5pm GMT.
The agenda is to work on the requirements draft
I will send out the dialin details when the
meeting server manages to email them to me.
For those of you that know your local
Cisco dialin number the call ID is 310256303
but I will forward the full invite text
when I receive it.
Stewart
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> _____________________________________________
> From: mp-ams-c1-olk.svc On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
> Sent: vendredi 28 novembre 2008 18:39
> To: Stewart Bryant (stbryant); 'yaakov_s@rad.com'; Laurent Montini =
(lmontini); Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
> Subject: Meeting: TICTOC {Meeting ID: 310256303}
> When: lundi 1 d=E9cembre 2008 18:00-19:00 (GMT+01:00) Brussels, =
Copenhagen, Madrid, Paris.
> Where:=09
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> Stewart Bryant has invited you to a Cisco Unified MeetingPlace =
Conference
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> Date/Time: December 01, 2008 at 05:00PM Europe/London
> Length: 60
> Frequency: once
> Meeting ID: 310256303
> Meeting Password: =20
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> Global Access Numbers:
> http://cisco.com/en/US/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html
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> San Jose, CA: +1.408.525.6800 RTP: +1.919.392.3330 =
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> US/Canada: +1.866.432.9903 United Kingdom: +44.20.8824.0117
> India: +91.80.4103.3979 Germany: +49.619.6773.9002
> Japan: +81.3.5763.9394 China: +86.10.8515.5666
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> TO ATTEND A WEB AND VOICE CONFERENCE:
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> CISCO INTRANET ATTENDEES
> Join the Web & Voice Conference*
> 1. Go to http://meetingplaceinternal.cisco.com/join.asp?310256303
> 2. Enter your CEC User ID & Password then click OK
> - Accept any security warnings you receive and wait for the Meeting =
Room to initialize**
> 3. Click on CONNECT from the Meeting Room to join the Voice Conference =
portion of the meeting
>=20
> EXTERNAL ATTENDEES - Outside the Cisco Intranet
> Join the Web & Voice Conference*
> 1. Go to http://meetingplace.cisco.com/join.asp?310256303
> 2. Fill in the My Name is field then click Attend Meeting
> - If you have a CEC User ID, click on the Cisco icon
> - Accept any security warnings you receive and wait for the Meeting =
Room to initialize**
> 3. Click on CONNECT from the Meeting Room to join the Voice Conference =
portion of the meeting
> - Note: Guest users will see a link to the Global Access Numbers.
>=20
> *If this is your first time attending a Web Conference, disable any =
pop-up blockers and visit =
http://meetingplace.cisco.com/mpweb/scripts/browsertestupper.asp to test =
your web browser for compatibility with the Web Conference.
> **The meeting will not start until the Host of the meeting arrives - =
if you'd like to start the meeting with your Profile, please review the =
steps below to attend a Voice Only Conference as a Guest then follow the =
system prompts.
>=20
> TO ATTEND A RESERVATIONLESS VOICE ONLY CONFERENCE
>=20
> AS THE HOST
> 1. Dial into Cisco Unified MeetingPlace (view the Access Numbers and =
link above)
> 2. Press 1 to attend the meeting
> 3. Enter the Meeting ID 310256303 followed by # key
> 4. Follow the prompts to record your name and enter the waiting room
> 5. Press 2 then enter your Profile Password to initiate your meeting
>=20
> AS A GUEST
> 1. Follow steps 1-4 above to access the meeting
> 2. You will be placed in a waiting room until the Host initiates the =
meeting
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> SUPPORT
> Information about this Conference: Contact Stewart Bryant, =
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> Cisco IT Support Center: Attend the Voice Conference and then press #0 =
on your phone keypad
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TO ATTEND A WEB AND VOICE CONFERENCE:
CISCO INTRANET ATTENDEES
Join the Web & Voice Conference*
1. Go to http://meetingplaceinternal.cisco.com/join.asp?310256303
2. Enter your CEC User ID & Password then click OK
- Accept any security warnings you receive and wait for the Meeting Room =
to initialize**
3. Click on CONNECT from the Meeting Room to join the Voice Conference =
portion of the meeting
EXTERNAL ATTENDEES - Outside the Cisco Intranet
Join the Web & Voice Conference*
1. Go to http://meetingplace.cisco.com/join.asp?310256303
2. Fill in the My Name is field then click Attend Meeting
- If you have a CEC User ID, click on the Cisco icon
- Accept any security warnings you receive and wait for the Meeting Room =
to initialize**
3. Click on CONNECT from the Meeting Room to join the Voice Conference =
portion of the meeting
- Note: Guest users will see a link to the Global Access Numbers.
*If this is your first time attending a Web Conference, disable any =
pop-up blockers and visit =
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your web browser for compatibility with the Web Conference.
**The meeting will not start until the Host of the meeting arrives - if =
you'd like to start the meeting with your Profile, please review the =
steps below to attend a Voice Only Conference as a Guest then follow the =
system prompts.
TO ATTEND A RESERVATIONLESS VOICE ONLY CONFERENCE
AS THE HOST
1. Dial into Cisco Unified MeetingPlace (view the Access Numbers and =
link above)
2. Press 1 to attend the meeting
3. Enter the Meeting ID 310256303 followed by # key
4. Follow the prompts to record your name and enter the waiting room
5. Press 2 then enter your Profile Password to initiate your meeting
AS A GUEST
1. Follow steps 1-4 above to access the meeting
2. You will be placed in a waiting room until the Host initiates the =
meeting
SUPPORT
Information about this Conference: Contact Stewart Bryant, 442088248828
Cisco IT Support Center: Attend the Voice Conference and then press #0 =
on your phone keypad
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