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From vrrp-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 19 06:54:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: vrrp-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-vrrp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF6F3A6A3D; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:54:20 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: vrrp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: vrrp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F4128C0E2 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:54:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ymkd6E848Xb9 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FE13A6A36 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se (eusrcmw751.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.77.51]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBJEw2sS022855; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:58:03 -0600 Received: from eusrcmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se ([138.85.77.20]) by eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:54:09 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:54:08 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <175193.60307.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Problem in VRRP Auth String. Thread-Index: AclhzdxsHpXmr8quSdCgykfxkJRuOgAG6oeg References: <20081106164059.3D0183A6869@core3.amsl.com> <768715.39956.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <990886.43687.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <175193.60307.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: "Stephen Nadas" To: "ashok meti" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2008 14:54:09.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[A59C7BE0:01C961E9] Cc: vrrp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [VRRP] Problem in VRRP Auth String. X-BeenThere: vrrp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1056679717==" Sender: vrrp-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: vrrp-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1056679717== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C961E9.A5A04D5B" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C961E9.A5A04D5B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ashok,=20 this kind of question is best addressed to VRRP email list, which I have now copied Steve ________________________________ From: ashok meti [mailto:meti_it2004@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:32 AM To: Stephen Nadas Subject: Problem in VRRP Auth String. hi=20 Setup, On Routers i have VRRP with IPV4. Configured VRRP on Router 1 with auth type 1 and password=3D"ashok" Configured VRRP on Router 2 with auth type 2 and password=3D"timothy". my question is "Since password/auth string is different for 2 routers in Virtual router group should it not discard pkts??" But still the above scenario is behaving normally. -Ashok ________________________________ From: Stephen Nadas To: ashok meti Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:17:53 PM Subject: RE: [VRRP] DISCUSS: draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec Ashok,=20 =20 I don't have any code that I can give you. I suggest that you do a web search and perhaps there find what you need.=20 =20 Regards,=20 Steve=20 ________________________________ From: ashok meti [mailto:meti_it2004@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:48 PM To: Stephen Nadas Subject: Re: [VRRP] DISCUSS: draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec Good Morning stephen, Thanks for quick reply... The code which i got doesn't support authentication. I have modified to support simple authentication. can i get current version of VRRP daemon code? -Ashok ________________________________ From: Stephen Nadas To: ashok meti Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:58:47 PM Subject: RE: [VRRP] DISCUSS: draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec Hi Ashok,=20 =20 I think the wikopedia article on VRRP can lead you in this direction. =20 Regards, Steve=20 ________________________________ From: ashok meti [mailto:meti_it2004@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:36 AM To: Stephen Nadas Subject: Re: [VRRP] DISCUSS: draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec Hello, can i get the opensource code for VRRP with IPV4??? Please let me know the location!!!!!!! Thank u -Ashok ________________________________ From: Stephen Nadas To: Pasi Eronen ; iesg@ietf.org Cc: vrrp-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec@tools.ietf.org; vrrp@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 10:25:23 PM Subject: Re: [VRRP] DISCUSS: draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec Hi Pasi,=20 Thank you for the feedback. Putting to VRRP list for WG feedback.=20 Regards,=20 Steve =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pasi Eronen [mailto:pasi.eronen@nokia.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:41 > To: iesg@ietf.org > Cc: vrrp-chairs@tools.ietf.org;=20 > draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec@tools.ietf.org > Subject: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec=20 >=20 > Discuss: > I have reviewed draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec-02. Overall, the=20 > document looks good, but I have the following concerns that=20 > I'd like to discuss before recommending approval of the document: >=20 > The security considerations text basically says security=20 > doesn't have to be considered here because an attacker can=20 > cause havoc with ARP anyway. I don't think this is fully=20 > accurate description. Many networks with untrusted hosts use=20 > switch security features that prevent hosts from bringing=20 > down the network with spoofed ARP packets (somewhat similar=20 > to what SAVI WG is working on). While compromising one of the=20 > switches or routers would still cause damage, compromised or=20 > malicious ordinary hosts (attached to switch ports where=20 > these features are enabled) can't do that much. >=20 > The other reason for removing cryptographic authentication of=20 > VRRP messages is said to be misconfigured secrets (which=20 > obviously does cause problems -- but on the other hand, this=20 > situation should be detected very quickly). If it's indeed=20 > the case that cryptographic per-message authentication isn't=20 > a good solution to securing VRRP, at the very least the=20 > document should discuss other possible mechanisms. > Perhaps e.g. filtering mechanisms in switches, configured on=20 > per-port basis, could provide some protection? Or could this=20 > somehow leverage the existing mechanisms for ARP? >=20 >=20 > An additional question about Section 7.4: I'm slightly=20 > confused by the text here -- does every router create its own=20 > link-local address (in which case failover is visible to=20 > hosts in this subnet), or do they share the same link-local=20 > address? The 1st paragraph says "They MUST NOT use the=20 > Virtual Router MAC address to create the Modified EUI-64=20 > identifiers", but the 3rd paragraph talks about "using the=20 > VRRP MAC in the formation of these link local addresses" --=20 > are these contradicting each other, or am I just=20 > misunderstanding how this works? >=20 >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ vrrp mailing list vrrp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vrrp ------_=_NextPart_001_01C961E9.A5A04D5B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ashok,
this kind of question is best addressed to = VRRP email=20 list, which I have now copied
Steve

From: ashok meti = [mailto:meti_it2004@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:32 AM
To: Stephen = Nadas
Subject: Problem in VRRP Auth = String.

hi=20

Setup,
On Routers i have VRRP with IPV4.

Configured = VRRP on=20 Router 1 with auth type 1 and password=3D"ashok"
Configured VRRP on = Router 2=20 with auth type 2 and password=3D"timothy".

my question is = "Since=20 password/auth string is different for 2 routers in Virtual router group = should=20 it not discard pkts??"
But still the above scenario is behaving=20 normally.

-Ashok
From: Stephen Nadas=20 <stephen.nadas@ericsson.com>
To: ashok meti=20 <meti_it2004@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 = 9:17:53=20 PM
Subject: RE: = [VRRP] DISCUSS:=20 draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec

Ashok,
 
I don't have any code that I can give = you.  I suggest=20 that you do a web search and perhaps there find what you need.=20
 
Regards,
Steve

From: ashok meti = [mailto:meti_it2004@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:48 PM
To: = Stephen=20 Nadas
Subject: Re: [VRRP] DISCUSS:=20 draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec

Good Morning stephen,

Thanks for quick = reply...

The =20 code which i got doesn't support authentication. I have modified to = support=20 simple authentication.
can i get current version of VRRP daemon=20 code?

-Ashok

From: Stephen Nadas=20 <stephen.nadas@ericsson.com>
To: ashok meti=20 <meti_it2004@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, = 2008 6:58:47=20 PM
Subject: RE: = [VRRP] DISCUSS:=20 draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec

Hi Ashok,
 
I think the wikopedia article on VRRP can lead = you in this=20 direction.
 
Regards,
Steve

From: ashok meti = [mailto:meti_it2004@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:36 AM
To: = Stephen=20 Nadas
Subject: Re: [VRRP] DISCUSS:=20 draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec

Hello,

can i get the opensource code for VRRP with=20 IPV4???

Please let me know the location!!!!!!!

Thank=20 u
-Ashok


From: Stephen Nadas=20 <stephen.nadas@ericsson.com>
To: Pasi Eronen=20 <pasi.eronen@nokia.com>; iesg@ietf.org
Cc: vrrp-chairs@tools.ietf.org;=20 draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec@tools.ietf.org; vrrp@ietf.org
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 = 10:25:23=20 PM
Subject: Re: = [VRRP] DISCUSS:=20 draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec

Hi Pasi,

Thank you = for the=20 feedback.  Putting to VRRP list for WG feedback.

Regards,=20
Steve 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: = Pasi=20 Eronen [mailto:pasi.eronen@nokia.com] =
> Sent:=20 Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:41
> To: iesg@ietf.org
> Cc: vrrp-chairs@tools.ietf.org<= /A>;=20
> draft-ietf= -vrrp-unified-spec@tools.ietf.org
>=20 Subject: DISCUSS: draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec
>
>=20 Discuss:
> I have reviewed draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec-02. = Overall, the=20
> document looks good, but I have the following concerns that =
>=20 I'd like to discuss before recommending approval of the = document:
>=20
> The security considerations text basically says security =
>=20 doesn't have to be considered here because an attacker can
> = cause havoc=20 with ARP anyway. I don't think this is fully
> accurate=20 description.  Many networks with untrusted hosts use
> = switch=20 security features that prevent hosts from bringing
> down the = network=20 with spoofed ARP packets (somewhat similar
> to what SAVI WG is = working=20 on). While compromising one of the
> switches or routers would = still=20 cause damage, compromised or
> malicious ordinary hosts (attached = to=20 switch ports where
> these features are enabled) can't do that=20 much.
>
> The other reason for removing cryptographic=20 authentication of
> VRRP messages is said to be misconfigured = secrets=20 (which
> obviously does cause problems -- but on the other hand, = this=20
> situation should be detected very quickly). If it's indeed =
> the=20 case that cryptographic per-message authentication isn't
> a good = solution to securing VRRP, at the very least the
> document = should=20 discuss other possible mechanisms.
> Perhaps e.g. filtering = mechanisms in=20 switches, configured on
> per-port basis, could provide some = protection?=20 Or could this
> somehow leverage the existing mechanisms for = ARP?
>=20
>
> An additional question about Section 7.4: I'm slightly =
> confused by the text here -- does every router create its own =
>=20 link-local address (in which case failover is visible to
> hosts = in this=20 subnet), or do they share the same link-local
> address? The 1st=20 paragraph says "They MUST NOT use the
> Virtual Router MAC = address to=20 create the Modified EUI-64
> identifiers", but the 3rd paragraph = talks=20 about "using the
> VRRP MAC in the formation of these link local=20 addresses" --
> are these contradicting each other, or am I just =
>=20 misunderstanding how this works?
>
>
>=20
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From vrrp-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 30 07:17:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: vrrp-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-vrrp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9B63A6A59; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:17:07 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: vrrp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: vrrp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425ED3A6A17 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:17:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.948 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.948 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xdGV5zabZP6M for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBAC3A6925 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4713700rvf.49 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:16:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=4I479ZLtHqhLbjy5xb1QsA5fk6sg06iVfjfqpcEeD90=; b=EfzROzI2wpbP+I016WoV8HQClkL/nrcrRRYc8iFULBrrmI3oCY7fmtMSJLgsjGpGqg u70v8DHBe9GHd2W2iYmQDEf6zAjFJJDMC4dyRBwxUrOcPNdhBPyY5UjieVVIpZ+R9U1N fA9N7mq/ObFjqEB5AUqFNWEDTIAVX1afXnbZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=CZyif+g6M2fHzFFRYMlE5ZPkesRjnfQpgtt/vQBYYLRZo8mkTrdBCq3ZUIUD4K5jXi ZpvnonJWONcuEmA1DJArJx/eF0F6f8zTxXPEYgyHo+As/XWEJMtY9udsEHIJXbWlX0bJ MeztLg+hduc+nO0BEhOU3/XDvHIvgoRm5uiO4= Received: by 10.141.113.6 with SMTP id q6mr7304496rvm.212.1230650214104; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.2.13 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:16:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:46:54 +0530 From: "Suraj R" To: stephen.nadas@ericsson.com, vrrp@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [VRRP] VRRPv3 Queries X-BeenThere: vrrp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0145952575==" Sender: vrrp-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: vrrp-bounces@ietf.org --===============0145952575== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_110024_8808274.1230650214098" ------=_Part_110024_8808274.1230650214098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to all, Please find time to clarify the below queries, with regard to draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec-02 1) When multiple VRRP groups are configured on an interface, and more than one group is a master on that interface, what should be the behaviour of RA? Should an RA be sent as per each of master link local address? 2) The RFC states that the VRRP advertisement can have multiple virtual IPv6 addresses. How are these addresses used by the VRRP router & host device ? 3) When a VRRP group transits from master to initialize, does the VRRP device need to send an RA with lifetime zero? Thanks & Regards, Suraj R ------=_Part_110024_8808274.1230650214098 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Hello to all,

Please find time to clarify the below queries, with regard to draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec-02


1) When multiple VRRP groups are configured on an interface, and more than  one group is a master on that interface, what should be the behaviour of RA? Should an RA be sent as per each of master link local address?

2) The RFC states that the VRRP advertisement can have multiple virtual IPv6 addresses. How are these addresses used by the VRRP router & host device ? 

3) When a VRRP group transits from master to initialize, does the VRRP device need to send an RA with lifetime zero?


Thanks & Regards,
Suraj R
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Hi Suraj,

Answers inline.


--- On Tue, 12/30/08, Suraj R <suraj.exn@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Suraj R <suraj.exn@gmail.com>
Subject: [VRRP] VRRPv3 Queries
To: stephen.nadas@ericsson.com, vrrp@ietf.org
Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 8:16 PM


Hello to all,

Please find time to clarify the below queries, with regard to draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec-02


1) When multiple VRRP groups are configured on an interface, and more than  one group is a master on that interface, what should be the behaviour of RA? Should an RA be sent as per each of master link local address?
 
When mutiple VRRP sessions are running on an Interface, atleast one Link local address to be part of a VRID. Master should be part of Solicited-Node multicast address group for the virtual address configured.  Yes, It should send RA for a virtual router and Neighbor Advertisements for each VRID associated.
 

2) The RFC states that the VRRP advertisement can have multiple virtual IPv6 addresses. How are these addresses used by the VRRP router & host device ? 
 
Atleast one link local address to be part of VRID for Virtual Router for resolving link layer MAC address. Rest can be global unicast ipv6 addresses. ND Neighbor Advertisements & ND Neighbor Solicitation message should be exchanged between Router and host device(s).

3) When a VRRP group transits from master to initialize, does the VRRP device need to send an RA with lifetime zero?
 
When goes to Initialize, Virtual router is not allowed to send any packets until its state transition to master state.  

 

Thanks & Regards,
Suraj R
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