This is only a rough draft - Megan 04/15/92 Minutes Apple-IP Working group - San Diego IETF meeting The following subgroups made presentations at the Apple-IP working group meeting. MacIP - encapsulation of IP datagrams in AppleTalk networks SNMP over AppleTalk AppleTalk over X.25 AppleTalk over PPP AppleTalk MIB + AppleTalk File Sharing MIB AppleTalk Half Router MIB AURP AA protocol - distribution of router configuration information to interested routers The MacIP group decided to wait for a new proposal from Tom Evans at Webster Computer Australia to make any further determination on the status of this protocol. There are currently at least five implementation of SNMP over AppleTalk the document is final and will be moved to the proposed standard level. Some discussion of this protocol occurred in the OSI area meeting on SNMP over protocols other than IP. The specification of AppleTalk over X.25 will be worked on by Apple Computer. It is suggested that the specification for IP over X.25 considered. The protocol proposal for AppleTalk over PPP was discussed and various minor changes were made the document will be resubmitted. The proposal for the follow on AppleTalk MIB was discussed various issues as to the ability to use this MIB for configuration were raised. There is no clear view that this MIB is any where near final and further discussion of contentious issues will be discussed on the mailing list. The AppleTalk half router MIB is extensions to the MIB + proposal these issues should be incorporated in the MIB+ document. The proposal for a AppleTalk File Sharing MIB was present the MIB will be posted to the mailing list and comment will be solicited from various AppleTalk File Sharing implementors. There were no outstanding issues related to AURP. Field trials of the protocol are continuing. The AA protocol proposal is available for implementation. There was considerable discussion on the breaking up of this group into several working groups issues of how this would effect the ability of the various groups to fit within the frame work of the IETF is at issue also how this group would relate to the direction and control that Apple Computer would want to retain over the protocols. The representative from Apple will report to the group as to the relationship between Apple and its developer and user community after this issues is discussed within Apple. The working group chair will work with the IAB and IESG to better understand the relationship between this group and its governing body. The disposition of these issues will be reported on the mailing list when more is known. Submitted by John Veizades working group chair