CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_ Reported by Tim Howes/University of Michigan Minutes of the Integrated Directory Services Working Group (IDS) Review of Previous Minutes The minutes from the Amsterdam meeting were accepted without change. Liaison Reports o North American Directory Forum (NADF) Tim Howes served as unofficial liaison to the NADF and reported that the NADF continues its piloting activities and has opened up its membership to user organizations (as well as service provider organizations). The next NADF meeting is in Reston, VA the week of November 8. o Whois and Network Information Lookup Service Working Group (WNILS) Chris Weider reported that the centroids and overall architecture documents have been out for some time and that the WHOIS++ document would be out shortly. Status Reports o WHOIS++ Chris reported there were now 4 implementations of WHOIS++ servers, one of which supports centroids. Client development is proceeding or promised for several client platforms, but none are available yet. o Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) Tim reported that version 3.0 of the University of Michigan LDAP distribution was released just before the Houston IETF. It includes a server and several client implementations. Progress of Documents o X.500 Implementation Catalog - Sri Sataluri and Arlene Getchell This document was to be considered for publication as an FYI. There was general disappointment at the lack of response from many vendors who are known to have X.500 products, despite the valiant and tenacious efforts of Sri and Arlene. Ken Rossen volunteered to beat up on the delinquent vendors and try to extract some more responses, as he has some contact with them at the OIW. It was agreed that progression of this document would be held up pending these responses. It was further agreed that in order to avoid beatings for the delinquent co-chairs, we would only wait until November 24 for responses, after which time the document would be progressed ASAP. ACTION: Ken to get a stick and beat up on vendors. o Pilot Project Catalog - April Marine April was not at the meeting, but had expressed a desire to withdraw this document, since she found much of the same information in a Paradise document. The group had two concerns. First, there was concern that the Paradise document might not be as timely as it needed to be, and that the Paradise project itself is going to be shutting down in April of 94. Second, there was concern that a document was needed in the RFC/FYI series, even if it just pointed to another document. ACTION: Tim and Chris to talk to April and Paradise about this document. o WHOIS++ Implementation Catalog - Chris Weider Chris reported that this document would be out as an Internet-Draft within the next month. Chris will use a template similar to the one used for the X.500 catalog, but the X.500 compliance section will be replaced with an options implemented section, in which implementors can describe which of the WHOIS++ options they have implemented. o Model for Information Privacy of Directories - Barbara Jennings Apologies were made to Barbara and the group for not distributing her document to the IDS discussion list. Barbara presented the main ideas in the document, including considerations that directory managers of personal data should have in the following areas: - Data collection (inform users, include only necessary info, allow opting out) - Data integrity (provide easy updating, disclose source, check for out-of-date data, conduct regular audits for errors) - Data security (keep a record of searches, limit information to a need-to-know basis) - Data marketing (ask permission before selling data, provide a complete dissemination list) - Legal protection in the US (Privacy Act, Freedom of Information Act) ACTION: Barbara to flesh out her document and submit it to the entire list. o Legal Issues for Directories in Europe - Erik Huizer Erik was not present, so discussion was postposed. Erik later reported that only small changes have been made since the Amsterdam meeting. o Introduction to White Pages Services Based on X.500 - A.P. Jurg The group discussed how this document differed from the Executive Introduction to X.500 (FYI 1308/1309). o Overview of Directory Services - Marco Hernandez Marco reported that his document would be submitted to the list within a matter of days. There was general agreement that this should be pursued as an Informational RFC. ACTION: Marco to submit his document to the list. New Directory Services The Computing Services Office (CSO) Nameserver protocol was discussed. In lieu of Joel Cooper from Notre Dame, Chris led the discussion. CSO is currently a local directory service, but the consensus of the group was that there is work to be done in the ``common schema and access'' area, which makes it appropriate for inclusion in IDS. Chris will talk to Joel Cooper about getting the CSO documents (or pointers to them) submitted to the list. AOB In the CSO discussion it was brought up that a relevant meeting had occurred earlier in the week. Tim gave a brief summary of the purpose and results of the meeting. The National Science Foundation, finding itself inundated with many requests to fund directory service efforts, convened a group of experts in the Internet community for the purpose of advising NSF on how best to allocate its limited funds to these projects. The consensus of the group was that no single white pages directory service was about to take over the Internet any time soon. Sites have extensive flexibility to run whatever they please, for a variety of reasons. Therefore, the informal recommendation of the group was for NSF to diversify itself and fund a variety of white pages directory service efforts. Furthermore, the group recommended that another area worthy of research is a system to tie together the various disparate white pages directory services. Tim introduced the basics of one such plan which had been presented at the meeting by Marshall Rose. Much interesting discussion ensued. Next Meeting The next meeting of the IDS Working Group will be at the March IETF in Seattle, WA. Attendees Harald Alvestrand Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no Sepideh Boroumand sepi@aol.com Luc Boulianne lucb@cs.mcgill.ca Glen Cairns cairns@mprgate.mpr.ca Peter Deutsch peterd@bunyip.com Urs Eppenberger eppenberger@switch.ch Qin Fang qin_fang@unc.edu Jill Foster Jill.Foster@newcastle.ac.uk Jisoo Geiter geiter@mitre.org Arlene Getchell getchell@es.net Mei-Jean Goh goh@mpr.ca Chris Gorsuch chrisg@lobby.ti.com Judith Grass grass@cnri.reston.va.us Roland Hedberg Roland.Hedberg@rc.tudelft.nl Marco Hernandez marco@cren.net Tim Howes tim@umich.edu Richard Huber rvh@ds.internic.net Barbara Jennings bjjenni@sandia.gov Michael Kornegay mlk@bir.com John Kunze jak@violet.berkeley.edu Ben Levy seven@ftp.com Wayne McDilda wayne@dir.texas.gov Michael McLay mclay@eeel.nist.gov Lars-Gunnar Olsson Lars-Gunnar.Olsson@data.slu.se Scott Paisley paisley@central.bldrdoc.gov Rakesh Patel rapatel@pilot.njin.net Karen Petraska-Veum karen.veum@gsfc.nasa.gov Richard Rodgers rodgers@nlm.nih.gov Kenneth Rossen kenr@shl.com Srinivas Sataluri sri@internic.net Richard Schmalgemeier rgs@merit.edu Rickard Schoultz schoultz@sunet.se Sam Sjogren sjogren@tgv.com Mark Smith mcs@umich.edu Milan Sova sova@feld.cvut.cz Margaret St. Pierre saint@wais.com David Staudt dstaudt@nsf.gov Chris Weider clw@bunyip.com Brien Wheeler blw@mitre.org Jackie Wilson Jackie.Wilson@msfc.nasa.gov Russ Wright wright@lbl.gov