From owner-isn-wg@nasa.gov Wed Sep 2 17:15:19 1998 Received: from pobox.nasa.gov (pobox.nasa.gov [128.102.92.11]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with ESMTP id RAA09039 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pobox.nasa.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA06853; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809022115.OAA06853@pobox.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: pobox.nasa.gov: majordom set sender to owner-isn-wg@nasa.gov using -f To: isn-archive@ietf.org From: listmanager@nasa.gov Subject: Welcome to isn-wg Reply-To: listmanager@nasa.gov -- Welcome to the isn-wg mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send the following command in email to "isn-wg-request@nasa.gov": unsubscribe Or you can send mail to "listmanager@nasa.gov" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe isn-wg isn-archive@lists.ietf.org Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: [Last updated on: Thu Dec 4 21:36:55 1997] LISTNAME: ISN-WG LISTOWNER: jodi@hawaii.edu Send questions/comments/concerns to: jodi@hawaii.edu Welcome to the Internet School Networking working group (ISN-WG) mailing list. This mailing list was created to foster and facilitate communications among those interested in furthering the mission and goals of the ISN. The Internet School Networking Working Group is chartered to address issues related to the connection of primary and secondary schools worldwide to the Internet. The key audiences include network service providers and educational policy makers responsible for network access and use. The key areas of focus for this group are advocacy and articulation. 1. Advocacy. The ISN Working Group will facilitate dialog between the primary and secondary education community and the Internet engineering community in order to identify and fulfill the needs of the primary and secondary school community. 2. Articulation. Informed by the group's experience, and with input from other IETF working groups, the ISN Working Group will articulate solutions to the challenges a school may experience in seeking and gaining a connection to the Internet, as well as the benefits of such a connection. Advantages to Internet connectivity may be articulated by means of pointers to such services as user interfaces, directories, organizations, and training programs, as well as to other resources. Articulation will most often be in the form of periodic documents that address key issues of interest to the school networking community. Representative issues to be addressed by the group include connectivity models, educational directories, and acceptable use policies. Mailing list information: General Discussion: isn-wg@nasa.gov To Subscribe: listmanager@nasa.gov In Body: subscribe isn-wg To Unsubscribe: listmanager@nasa.gov In Body: unsubscribe isn-wg For the complete charter of the ISN working group, send email to: mailserv@ds.internic.net with the text: send isn-charter.txt Sepideh Boroumand, ISN-WG co-chair sepideh@netsol.com Jodi-Ann Ito, ISN-WG co-chair jodi@hawaii.edu From owner-isn-wg@pobox.nasa.gov Thu Sep 3 23:37:28 1998 Received: from pobox.nasa.gov (pobox.nasa.gov [128.102.92.11]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with ESMTP id XAA24789 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pobox.nasa.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id UAA09492 for isn-wg-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:06:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: pobox.nasa.gov: majordom set sender to owner-isn-wg using -f Received: from relay1.Hawaii.edu (root@relay1.hawaii.edu [128.171.3.53]) by pobox.nasa.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA09486 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.171.44.7] ([128.171.44.7]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <149375(6)>; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:05:23 -1000 Received: from localhost by uhunix2.its.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <148564(9)>; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:05:18 -1000 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:05:16 -1000 From: Jodi-Ann Ito X-Sender: jodi@uhunix2 Reply-To: Jodi-Ann Ito To: isn-wg@nasa.gov cc: amarine@globe.arc.nasa.gov Subject: summary of ISN meeting in Chicago Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isn-wg@nasa.gov Precedence: bulk The ISN working group met in Chicago to discuss the future of the group. It was noted that the working group was originally formed about 6 years ago and since that time, schools' participation and involvement in the Internet have evolved rather significantly. Current issues facing schools tend more towards "How do you integrate this technology into the curriculum?" rather than "How do you get connected?" With this shift in focus, the group was asked to if there are any well-defined problems that could be solved within the IETF. April Marine, the User Services AD reminded the group that IETF working groups are convened to resolve clearly defined problems and issues and once the group accomplishes that, the group is closed down. If new issues/problems arise, the group can be re-convened with a new charter, goals and milestones. The group was polled to see if there were any problems or issues that met the criteria and there weren't any that the group thought would be appropriate. Thus the ISN working group will be closed but the isn-wg list will be maintained to continue discussions. If other problems and issues should come up, the group can be re-established with a new charter. From owner-isn-wg@pobox.nasa.gov Fri Sep 4 19:26:23 1998 Received: from pobox.nasa.gov (pobox.nasa.gov [128.102.92.11]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with ESMTP id TAA12704 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pobox.nasa.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA11226 for isn-wg-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:56:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: pobox.nasa.gov: majordom set sender to owner-isn-wg using -f Received: from archimedes.nasa.gov (archimedes.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.33.37]) by pobox.nasa.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA11221 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from archimedes.nasa.gov (archimedes.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.33.37]) by archimedes.nasa.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA25699; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:55:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Time-In: 19980904225550 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:55:50 -0700 (PDT) From: April Marine X-Sender: amarine@archimedes.nasa.gov To: Jodi-Ann Ito cc: isn-wg@nasa.gov Subject: Re: summary of ISN meeting in Chicago In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isn-wg@nasa.gov Precedence: bulk I would like to thank Jodi and the various other ISN chairs over the years for their great work in leading a group with a very broad charter! ISN has made some great contributions of which you all can be proud. As we move to close the group for the time being, I just want to remind everyone that this list will remain open for discussion. If people have a strong desire to work on specific projects in the IETF forum in the future, please send email about them! We will have to go through the normal IETF working group startup fun, but there is no reason a strong movement toward a specific goal will not be supported. Again, many thanks to you all! regards, April On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Jodi-Ann Ito wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:05:16 -1000 > From: Jodi-Ann Ito > To: isn-wg@nasa.gov > Cc: amarine@globe.arc.nasa.gov > Subject: summary of ISN meeting in Chicago > > The ISN working group met in Chicago to discuss the future of the group. > It was noted that the working group was originally formed about 6 years > ago and since that time, schools' participation and involvement in the > Internet have evolved rather significantly. Current issues facing schools > tend more towards "How do you integrate this technology into the > curriculum?" rather than "How do you get connected?" With this shift in > focus, the group was asked to if there are any well-defined problems that > could be solved within the IETF. April Marine, the User Services AD > reminded the group that IETF working groups are convened to resolve > clearly defined problems and issues and once the group accomplishes that, > the group is closed down. If new issues/problems arise, the group can > be re-convened with a new charter, goals and milestones. > > The group was polled to see if there were any problems or issues that > met the criteria and there weren't any that the group thought would be > appropriate. Thus the ISN working group will be closed but the isn-wg > list will be maintained to continue discussions. If other problems > and issues should come up, the group can be re-established with a new > charter. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- April Marine GLOBE Program 1-800-858-9947 --> Help Desk NASA Ames Research Center 650-604-0762 --> me (Raytheon ITSS) amarine@globe.arc.nasa.gov IETF User Services (USV) http://archimedes.nasa.gov/usv/ Area Director From owner-isn-wg@pobox.nasa.gov Tue Sep 8 20:01:51 1998 Received: from pobox.nasa.gov (pobox.nasa.gov [128.102.92.11]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with ESMTP id UAA17469 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pobox.nasa.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA19135 for isn-wg-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:21:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: pobox.nasa.gov: majordom set sender to owner-isn-wg using -f Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by pobox.nasa.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA19130 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1471 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Sep 1998 23:20:59 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 19:20:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: April Marine Subject: Re: summary of ISN meeting in Chicago Cc: isn-wg@nasa.gov Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-isn-wg@nasa.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-Sep-98 April Marine wrote: > I would like to thank Jodi and the various other ISN chairs over the years > for their great work in leading a group with a very broad charter! ISN > has made some great contributions of which you all can be proud. > > As we move to close the group for the time being, I just want to remind > everyone that this list will remain open for discussion. If people have a > strong desire to work on specific projects in the IETF forum in the > future, please send email about them! We will have to go through the > normal IETF working group startup fun, but there is no reason a strong > movement toward a specific goal will not be supported. Sorry you're getting a duplicate on this April, but this mailer acts a bit squirrely with list replies. With the group's original purpose now at an end, there is still much work to be done. Some of the ideas that have been floated across this list in the last couple of months are extremely important and have a real need to be, at the very minimum, discussed. The interest that was shown recently even highlights this and along with the topics that were brought up are a strong start towards a future direction. School, in many areas, is back in session and what better place is there to examine the many tasks yet to be addressed. This is a good place to start laying down ideas, then April and/or Jodi can (hopefully) help with what to do next. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Searchable Campground Listings http://www.camping-usa.com "There is no outfit less entitled to lecture me about bloat than the federal government" -- Tony Snow ==========================================================================