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   *************  ANNOUNCEMENT ****************
                  
   ************* ALPHA RELEASE 2 **************

   *** UNIVERSITY OF TWENTEs SNMP version 2 ***


The SNMP group at the University of Twente (the Netherlands)
has completed the second release of their implementation of
SNMP version 2. After releasing our initial prototype at the 
end of last year, we redesigned and extended this prototype 
to improve our implementation. The new release can be freely 
obtained from our anonymous ftp server (ftp.cs.utwente.nl), 
in the directory: pub/src/snmp.

This SNMPv2 implementation follows RFC's 1441-1452. It includes 
things like Encoding Rules, Party MIB, SNMPv2 MIB, MD5, DES and 
a easy to use API. 

Note however that this implementation is an alpha release: 
it is not fully tested and still has some "inefficient" code. 
This release still lacks the manager-manager MIB, `meta 
management' (support to manage, from a remote place and using 
SNMPv2, the SNMPv2 and party MIB). Besides, it does not handle 
all errors in accordance with the RFCs. Other "flaws" are 
described in the README file in the root directory of the 
package. We expect to include the remaining SNMPv2 
functionality and remove potential bugs in the next couple 
of years.

Our management software is written in GNU-C and has been tested
on SUN Sparc workstations using SunOs 5.3. We have tested 
against other SNMPv2 software, most notably CMUs SNMPv2 
software. We developed for instance things like proxies that 
copy management requests from and to a SNMPv2 CMU agent.
       
Also available are two additional programs to provide an easy 
to use manner to generate initial partymib files. The files 
(*.conf) have the same easy to read format of the cmu-snmp-v2.1 
package.
        
Our group maintains a WWW server that provides information 
about our SNMPv2 project. This information can be reached at:
       http://snmp.cs.utwente.nl:8001/snmp/html/homepage.html

We appreciate that people who are interested in our software 
send their name and email address to: snmp@cs.utwente.nl. 
We will use this information for the announcement of new 
versions and bug-fixes. You can you the same email addres 
for bugs, questions, complains and complements.

        The SNMP V2 Group
        Tele-Informatics and Open Systems Group
        Department of Computer Science
        P.O. Box 217, 7500  AE Enschede, The Netherlands
        <snmp@cs.utwente.nl>

Currently the next people are working in the SNMPv2 group: 
Associates:
	Aiko Pras
	Eric van Hengstum
	Vincent Berkhout
Students:
	Koert Flapper
	Anton Holleman
	Jaap Huib van der Knaap
	Michel van Ooijen 
	Rene Oude Vrielink
	Peter Peters
	Rob Post
	Edward Veluwenkamp

*** NOTE ****
Due to national custom regulations, you could be violating your 
laws by exporting or importing DES. We have therefore made 
a special tar file without DES available to overcome this 
problem.
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          Hi,
          Can someone gives me the address of Marshall's  MIBs
          converter (from V1 to V2).
          Thank you.

          Christian M.
          cmaciocc@ccrelay.fibermux.com
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Subject: adjustment clock synchronization
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From: "Edward E. Veluwenkamp" <veluwenk@cs.utwente.nl>
Organisation: U. Twente, Dept of CS, Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede, Netherlands
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:50:00 +0200
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We are working on the SNMPv2 project at the University of Twente and we
want to implement the clock synchronization algorithm as described in
RFC 1446.

If the Authentication clocks of the manager and the agent Authentication 
party are not synchronized then an AuthRequest of the manager can result 
in an UnAuthRequest at the agent.

The manager has no knowledge of the fact that the AuthRequest was refused
by the agent or lossed. So the manager retries several times the same 
AuthRequest, before asking the question if the drift between the two AuthClocks
is to great. 
Now can the manager try to adjust the synchronization of the 
Authentication clocks following RFC 1446.


Our proposal:

If the receiving party rejects an AuthRequest as Unauthenticated, why can't
this party generate an Authenticated Response PDU with an error-status equal
with genErr(5) or an AuthenticationError (does not exist) consisting of the
Authentication Clock values of this party (not in accordance with the RFCs).

This ensures the sender of the Authenticated Message that the Authentication 
clocks are not synchronized, so the sending party doesn't have to try several 
times before coming to the same conclusion. 
This principle has also the advantage of a minimum of network access with 
the same result.


answers may be addressed to: snmp@cs.utwente.nl


Thanks for any comments, Michel and Edward.

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|  \___/          | Michel van Ooijen       <ooijen@cs.utwente.nl>
|                 | and Edward Veluwenkamp  <veluwenk@cs.utwente.nl>
|___     __   ___ | University of Twente                  fax. +31 53 333815
| |  |  /  \ (__  | Tele-Informatics & Open Systems       tel. +31 53 894287
| |  |  \__/ ___) | P.O. Box 217
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Subject: Object Resources
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From: "Edward E. Veluwenkamp" <veluwenk@cs.utwente.nl>
Organisation: U. Twente, Dept of CS, Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede, Netherlands
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 14:47:57 +0200
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How do you use the Object Resource Group (OR-Group) in the SNMPv2 MIB ?


Definition in the RFC 1450:
 
"The (conceptual) table listing the dynamically configurable object 
resources in a SNMPv2 entity acting in an agent role.  SNMPv2 entities 
which do not support dynamically-configurable object resources will 
never have any instances of the columnar objects in this table."


In the Simple book we read that the definition of sysObjectID assumes that
the agent's Object Resources, "the MIB held by an agent" is rather static. 
Some agents, however, are able to dynamically acquire new Object Resources.
In an agent which can't acquire new Object Resources, this table is always 
empty.                        


In the book of William Stallings the Object Resources Group is used by an 
SNMPv2 entity in an agent role to describe those Object Resources that it
controls that are subject to dynamic configuration by a manager.


How do you interpret an Object Resource in the RFC for use with the OR-Group
of the SNMPv2 MIB?


answers may be addressed to:  snmp@cs.utwente.nl


Thanks for any comments, Michel and Edward.


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|  \___/          | Michel van Ooijen       <ooijen@cs.utwente.nl>
|                 | and Edward Veluwenkamp  <veluwenk@cs.utwente.nl>
|___     __   ___ | University of Twente                  fax. +31 53 333815
| |  |  /  \ (__  | Tele-Informatics & Open Systems       tel. +31 53 894287
| |  |  \__/ ___) | P.O. Box 217
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Subject: SNMP over X.25
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Can anybody tell me how SNMP can be implemented over x.25.?
Is there any literature available on this topic? 
Please answer back to guts@wipinfo.soft.net.
		   Thank You.





 S.Ganesh,                        <email : guts@wipinfo.soft.net>
 Wipro Infotech Ltd,
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From: Deepak Goel <dgoel@hcla.hcla.com>
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Subject: FAQ for SNMPv2?
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Hi,

I am new to this mailing list and was wondering if
there is any compilation of FAQs for SNMPv2.  If there 
is one,  could someone please mail me a copy of it.

Thanks,


-Deepak Goel
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From: Keith Klamm <klamm@istwok.ods.com>
Message-Id: <199404151905.AA17109@istwok.ods.com>
Subject: partyAuthProtocol creation
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Hi,

I have a MIB interpretation question for the v2 security WG (and the editor
thereof). Reproduced below is the partyAuthProtocol ASN.1 (RFC1447):

          partyAuthProtocol OBJECT-TYPE
              SYNTAX      OBJECT IDENTIFIER
              MAX-ACCESS  read-create
              STATUS      current
              DESCRIPTION
                      "The authentication protocol by which all messages
                      generated by the party are authenticated as to
                      origin and integrity.  The value noAuth signifies
                      that messages generated by the party are not
                      authenticated.

                      Once an instance of this object is created, its
		                                         ^^^^^^^
                      value can not be changed."
              DEFVAL      { v2md5AuthProtocol }
              ::= { partyEntry 7 }

My question concerns the last sentence of the DESCRIPTION. Specifically,
what is meant by the word "created?"

Suppose a NMS creates a row by sending a single set-PDU with a single
varbind of partyStatus = createAndWait. Since a reasonable agent
processing this set request might choose to set all objects in the same
row with their DEFVALs the partyAuthProtocol object would now have the
value of v2md5AuthProtocol.

In the strictest interpretation of the word "create" the partyAuthProtocol
object has been created albeit with a DEFVAL. The agent now might reasonably
reject any subsequent sets to the partyAuthProtocol instance since it already
exists.

Is the scenario I describe the intended interpretation of partyAuthProtocol?

My concern is that interoperability could suffer with this interpretation.
A NMS is forced into setting the partyAuthProtocol in the first PDU
used to create a new instance in the partyTable.

I propose that the following sentence be added to the last sentence:

  "The object is deemed created when either of the following
   occur- 1) the object is set via a SNMP set-request PDU, or
   2) the associated partyStatus object transitions to active."

Comments?

Keith Klamm



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From: Konstantin Beznosov <Beznosov@inp.nsk.su>
Subject: LAN bridge with SNMP
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Do anybody know the implementation of multiport (i.e. multi-interface=
) bridge with SNMP built in
( ex=D3epting KarleBridge) =C1=DD=CB IBM-PC clone ?
Please answer to Beznosov@INP.Nsk.SU.
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From: Keith Klamm <klamm@istwok.ods.com>
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Subject: Re: partyAuthProtocol creation
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Hi,

I have an update on my earlier question for those of you who are still
interested. In summary my question is:

  What is the meaning of the following sentence from the partyAuthProtocol
  DESCRIPTION: "Once an instance of this object is created, its value can
  not be changed."?

Chris Young suggested that the agent be designed to not invoke the DEFVALs
until partyStatus is set to active.

In theory this idea would imply that a set-request to the partyAuthProtocol
object would be accepted anytime up to (and including) the PDU that sets
partyStatus = active.

Sath. Nelakonda pointed out that setting the partyCloneFrom object (which must
occur exactly once) copies the partyAuthProtocol field from the cloned party.

This means that the partyAuthProtocol object is created (if it
doesn't already exist) when the partyCloneFrom object is set. The net
effect is that the partyAuthProtocol object would have to be set prior to
the partyCloneFrom object. A PDU containing sets to both objects may
have an implementation specific result (in this case I would suggest that
the set to the partyAuthProtocol object take precedence).

Sath. also recognized that the above discussion applies to the partyPrivProtocol
object as well.

Thanks to all who responded to my query.

In summary:

The most interoperable way to create a party (with partyAuthProtocol
different from cloned party) is to set partyAuthProtocol in the first PDU.

Updated proposal to enhance interoperability:

Add the following sentence to the end of the DESCRIPTION fields for
partyAuthProtocol and partyPrivProtocol:

  "This object is deemed created upon successfully processing a
   set-request containing either this object or the associated
   partyCloneFrom object. Note that if both objects are contained
   in the same set-request that the party[Auth|Priv]Protocol set will
   take precedence."

Maybe this is all a non-issue. Would anybody ever try to clone a md5Auth
party to create a noAuth party (for instance)?

Regards,

Keith Klamm
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I am interested in the following information:

1) Real world Key Distribution implementations for SNMPv2. 

2) How agents and managers synch their initial keys in real products.

3) If SNMPv2 security is really being used, or do administrators find
   security to be a hassle and turn it off.


				thanks,

				   dreez
				   endrizzi@sctc.com




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