Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01733; 3 Dec 93 6:07 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01729; 3 Dec 93 6:07 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03964; 3 Dec 93 6:07 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id EAA27572; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 04:07:08 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id EAA20014; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 04:07:02 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id EAA20011; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 04:07:00 -0700 Received: from dnlts0.research.ptt.nl by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id EAA27553; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 04:06:16 -0700 Received: from research.ptt.nl by research.ptt.nl (PMDF V4.2-13 #2928) id <01H61J9HYPP2F0P402@research.ptt.nl>; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 12:06:45 +0100 Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 12:06:45 +0100 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Alex Reijnierse Subject: e-mail change! To: tuba@lanl.gov Cc: tuba@ctt.bellcore.com, wg-llt-clns@rare.nl, sn3plus-clns@surfnet.nl Message-id: <01H61J9HYPP4F0P402@research.ptt.nl> Organization: PTT Research, the Netherlands X-Envelope-to: tuba@lanl.gov X-VMS-To: IN%"tuba@lanl.gov" X-VMS-Cc: IN%"tuba@ctt.bellcore.com", IN%"wg-llt-clns@rare.nl", IN%"sn3plus-clns@surfnet.nl" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi, My e-mail address has been changed from: A.A.Reijnierse@research.ptt.nl to A.A.L.Reijnierse@research.ptt.nl ^ Small change, but significant. - Alex   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03542; 3 Dec 93 9:17 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03538; 3 Dec 93 9:17 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa07546; 3 Dec 93 9:17 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id HAA29397; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 07:17:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id HAA20696; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 07:17:42 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id HAA20693; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 07:17:41 -0700 Received: from tycho.ncsc.mil by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id HAA29384; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 07:17:00 -0700 Received: by tycho.ncsc.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07200; Fri, 3 Dec 93 09:18:13 EST Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 09:18:13 EST Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: "Kevin W. Keaton" Message-Id: <9312031418.AA07200@tycho.ncsc.mil> To: tuba@lanl.gov Subject: add to mailing list Thanks, Kevin   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa06552; 3 Dec 93 11:21 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa06548; 3 Dec 93 11:21 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa11051; 3 Dec 93 11:21 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id JAA07320; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 09:20:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id JAA21836; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 09:21:22 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id JAA21833; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 09:21:21 -0700 Received: from mail.bellcore.com by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id JAA07282; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 09:20:38 -0700 Received: from eve (eve.bellcore.com) by mail.bellcore.com (5.65c/2.1) id AA01979; Fri, 3 Dec 1993 11:16:08 -0500 Received: by eve (4.1/4.7) id AA16101; Fri, 3 Dec 93 11:22:59 EST Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 11:22:59 EST Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Dave Piscitello X-Station-Sent-From: eve.bellcore.com Message-Id: <9312031622.AA16101@eve> To: tuba@lanl.gov Subject: clnp for tuba update I've sent what I hope to be an RFC1543 compliant version of clnp for tuba to the rfc-editor; thanks for your patience.   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa11298; 7 Dec 93 14:58 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa11294; 7 Dec 93 14:58 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa16485; 7 Dec 93 14:58 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id MAA06162; Tue, 7 Dec 1993 12:57:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id MAA14587; Tue, 7 Dec 1993 12:57:38 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id MAA14584; Tue, 7 Dec 1993 12:57:37 -0700 Received: from is.rice.edu by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id MAA06059; Tue, 7 Dec 1993 12:56:55 -0700 Received: from sabine.is.rice.edu by is.rice.edu (AA21255); Tue, 7 Dec 93 13:57:36 CST Received: by sabine.is.rice.edu (AA10710); Tue, 7 Dec 93 13:57:35 CST Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: William Manning Message-Id: <9312071957.AA10710@sabine.is.rice.edu> Subject: Re: BSD Compatability Library (fwd) To: tuba@lanl.gov Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 13:57:34 CST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Mark D. Baushke > > When I built my shared SunOS 4.1.2 library, I included the inet_addr.o > in libc.so because inet_addr.c is also where we put inet_nsap_addr() > and inet_nsap_ntoa() which is part of the support for T_NSAP and > T_NSAP_PTR RRs. (If you want the NSAP patches for 4.9.2-beta5, you > can find them in ftp.cisco.com:/ftp/bind/4.9.2-beta5-nsap-diffs .) > Note that this is for a BIND that is not yet release to the general public.... Yet. -- Regards, Bill Manning bmanning@rice.edu PO Box 1892 713-285-5415 713-527-6099 Houston, Texas R.U. (o-kome) 77251-1892   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa04232; 15 Dec 93 10:28 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa04228; 15 Dec 93 10:28 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa08615; 15 Dec 93 10:28 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id IAA01203; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 08:27:52 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id IAA06459; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 08:19:03 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id IAA06455; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 08:19:01 -0700 Received: from dnlts0.research.ptt.nl by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id IAA00553; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 08:18:10 -0700 Received: from research.ptt.nl by research.ptt.nl (PMDF V4.2-13 #2928) id <01H6IIZK12J4F0QA4G@research.ptt.nl>; Wed, 15 Dec 1993 16:18:49 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 16:18:49 +0100 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Alex Reijnierse Subject: New version of ethload To: tuba@lanl.gov Cc: wg-llt-clns@rare.nl, sn3plus-clns@surfnet.nl Message-id: <01H6IIZK1VGYF0QA4G@research.ptt.nl> Organization: PTT Research, the Netherlands X-Envelope-to: tuba@lanl.gov X-VMS-To: IN%"tuba@lanl.gov" X-VMS-Cc: IN%"wg-llt-clns@rare.nl", IN%"sn3plus-clns@surfnet.nl" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, This is is to announce a new version of ethload, the LAN monitor program i mentioned earlier. Together with the author of the program we improved the monitoring of CLNS traffic and it now even monitors TUBA! Some features are: monitoring of - CLNS multicast addresses - CLNS AFI values - CLNS NSAPs (also in detail with IDI decoding!) - SNPAs, Redirects, Hello messages - Selector values (including TUBA) - TUBA NSAPs (also in detail) - TUBA TCP Try it out and let me or the author know what you think! His name is Eric Vyncke (email: vyncke@csl.sni.be) The program is called ethld104-8.zip and can be found on the TUBA gopher server: explorer.nsap.research.ptt.nl in the directory /tuba/software/pc This server is also accessible through anonymous FTP or anon FTAM. - Alex   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa00959; 23 Dec 93 6:17 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa00955; 23 Dec 93 6:17 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03468; 23 Dec 93 6:17 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id EAA10712; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 04:16:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id EAA11281; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 04:16:43 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id EAA11278; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 04:16:42 -0700 Received: from dnlts0.research.ptt.nl by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id EAA10700; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 04:15:51 -0700 Received: from research.ptt.nl by research.ptt.nl (PMDF V4.2-14 #2928) id <01H6TFP7CKTCF0QWV0@research.ptt.nl>; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 12:16:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 12:16:11 +0100 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Alex Reijnierse Subject: CLNS routing in 1994 To: nmc@empb.net Cc: denise@dxcoms.cern.ch, wg-llt-clns@rare.nl, sn3plus-clns@surfnet.nl, tuba@lanl.gov, wiget@chx400.switch.ch, asp@uunet.uu.net, bostwick@es.net, noop@merit.edu, routing@es.net, clns@uni-muenster.de, vistoli@infn.it Message-id: <01H6TFP7DDR6F0QWV0@research.ptt.nl> Organization: PTT Research, the Netherlands X-Envelope-to: tuba@lanl.gov X-VMS-To: IN%"nmc@empb.net" X-VMS-Cc: IN%"denise@dxcoms.cern.ch", IN%"wg-llt-clns@rare.nl", IN%"sn3plus-clns@surfnet.nl", IN%"tuba@lanl.gov", IN%"wiget@chx400.switch.ch", IN%"asp@uunet.uu.net", IN%"bostwick@es.net", IN%"noop@merit.edu", IN%"routing@es.net", IN%"clns@uni-muenster.de", IN%"vistoli@infn.it" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi All, I am sorry if you get this mail several times, but it is important enough to justify this. After seeing all these mails about the routing of CLNS in 1994 and after consulting appropriate persons at EuropaNET, it seems logical to clear up some things. That's why i send you this mail. This mail is meant as a summary of other mails and will present my view of the routing as i think will satisfy everybody. If this is not the case, please let me know. Currently there are the following European CLNS networks that want connectivity to the U.S: SWITCH Switzerland IRIS Spain FUNET Finland SURFnet The Netherlands ARIADNE Greece UNINETT Norway WIN Germany SURFnet pilot The Netherlands PTT Research The Netherlands INFN Italy HEPnet comm. Switzerland INRIA France At present, the following networks are NOT directly connected to EuropaNET: INFN Italy HEPnet comm. Switzerland INRIA France Considering this situation, i agree with Denise that it is best to share the load over the two links to ESnet. EuropaNET therefore likes to accept the offer from WIN and ESnet to route EuropaNET traffic over their link. Currently, EuropaNET is working on a direct connection to Washington, but this link will be IP only for the time being. So, what i propose is this: INFN, HEPnet and INRIA use the link INFN-ESnet for US traffic and announce only their prefixes to ESnet. All the other networks can then use the link WIN-ESnet. These latter networks being: SWITCH, IRIS, FUNET, SURFnet, ARIADNE, UNINETT, WIN, SURFnet Pilot and PTT Research. If anyone does not agree with this proposal, please let me know. Guido, when using this topology, you will have to announce the following prefixes to ESnet: SWITCH 39.756f.1111 IRIS 39.724f.1001 FUNET 39.246f 47.0023.0000.0001 47.0023.0000.0003 47.0023.0000.0007 SURFnet 39.528f.1100 (includes SURFnet pilot and PTT Research) ARIADNE 39.300f.1001 UNINETT 47.0023.0000.0005 WIN 39.276f.3100 EuropaNET 39.528f.1103 US prefixes you have to route TO are: 47.0004 NBS OSI network 47.0005 USA FED GOV OSI NETWORK (includes ALTERNET) 39.124f Canada EuropaNET has to retain the static route to INFN/HEPnet (47.0020), but has to switch the routes to the US to point to WIN. These prefixes are: 47.0004, 47.0005 and 39.124f. I am at loss where INRIA is concerned. Can somebody explain what their connectivity will look like? Could everybody concerned please confirm this proposal or state his/hers objections? If everybody agrees we will only have to set a date for this major change (before next year!) - Alex   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01779; 23 Dec 93 8:04 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01775; 23 Dec 93 8:04 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa04645; 23 Dec 93 8:04 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id GAA11479; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 06:03:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id GAA11607; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 06:04:20 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id GAA11604; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 06:04:19 -0700 Received: from emu.ncsl.nist.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id GAA11469; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 06:03:04 -0700 Received: by emu.ncsl.nist.gov (4.1/NIST(rbj/dougm)) id AA12718; Thu, 23 Dec 93 08:04:42 EST Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 08:04:42 EST Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Sub-Organization: Computer Systems Laboratory (CSL) Message-Id: <9312231304.AA12718@emu.ncsl.nist.gov> To: nmc@empb.net, A.A.L.Reijnierse@research.ptt.nl Subject: Re: CLNS routing in 1994 Cc: denise@dxcoms.cern.ch, wg-llt-clns@rare.nl, sn3plus-clns@surfnet.nl, tuba@lanl.gov, wiget@chx400.switch.ch, noop@merit.edu, routing@es.net, clns@uni-muenster.de, vistoli@infn.it Reply-To: colella@nist.gov Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: colella@nist.gov Alex, I'd like to add my thanks for taking care of this. > US prefixes you have to route TO are: > > 47.0004 NBS OSI network > 47.0005 USA FED GOV OSI NETWORK (includes ALTERNET) > 39.124f Canada You probably ought to add 39.840f (U.S.). --Richard   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa08917; 23 Dec 93 14:08 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa08913; 23 Dec 93 14:08 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa12388; 23 Dec 93 14:08 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id MAA27270; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 12:07:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id MAA13995; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 12:07:57 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id MAA13992; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 12:07:48 -0700 Received: from bsd.stupi.se by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id MAA27182; Thu, 23 Dec 1993 12:06:46 -0700 Received: by bsd.stupi.se (5.67/1.37) id AA13894; Thu, 23 Dec 93 20:05:15 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 20:05:15 MET Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Peter Lothberg To: Alex Reijnierse Cc: nmc@empb.net, denise@dxcoms.cern.ch, wg-llt-clns@rare.nl, sn3plus-clns@surfnet.nl, tuba@lanl.gov, wiget@chx400.switch.ch, asp@uunet.uu.net, bostwick@es.net, noop@merit.edu, routing@es.net, clns@uni-muenster.de, vistoli@infn.it, ber@sunet.se, olav.kvittem@uninett.no, he@sintef.runit.no Subject: Re: CLNS routing in 1994 In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 23 Dec 1993 12:16:11 +0100 Message-Id: > > Hi All, Hi Alex.. > > After seeing all these mails about the routing of CLNS in 1994 and after > > consulting appropriate persons at EuropaNET, it seems logical to clear > > up some things. That's why i send you this mail. This mail is meant as a > > summary of other mails and will present my view of the routing as i > > think will satisfy everybody. If this is not the case, please let me > > know. Clear up, you mean mess up? > > Guido, when using this topology, you will have to announce the following > > prefixes to ESnet: > > > > ..... > > FUNET 39.246f > > 47.0023.0000.0001 > > 47.0023.0000.0003 > > 47.0023.0000.0007 > > UNINETT 47.0023.0000.0005 As some of the prefixes in the list are already routed through the ICMnet links to NORDUnet, wich is WORKING, I don't understand what Alex is trying to do.. On the other hand it might work anyhow, as ESnet already routes this to ICMnet... For the following prefixes, CNLP servis from the US side should be routed through one of the following boxes; MAE-East, ICM-DC-1.ICP.NET 47.0023.0001.0000.0000.0002.0002.1921.5706.5057 FIX-East, ICM-FIX-E.ICP.NET 47.0023.0001.0000.0000.0002.0001.1921.5706.5017 47.0023.0001.0000 ICMnet+Ebone 47.0023.0000.0001 NORDUnet backbone 47.0023.0000.0002 DK 47.0023.0000.0003 FI 47.0023.0000.0004 IS 47.0023.0000.0005 NO 47.0023.0000.0006 SE 47.0023.0000.0007 DECnet-fasV transition 39.752f.0100.0014 Stupi -Peter   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01507; 24 Dec 93 6:56 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01503; 24 Dec 93 6:56 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03862; 24 Dec 93 6:56 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id EAA27759; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 04:55:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id EAA16669; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 04:56:01 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id EAA16666; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 04:55:55 -0700 Received: from obelix.uni-muenster.de by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id EAA27743; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 04:55:06 -0700 Received: from ASTERIX.UNI-MUENSTER.DE by obelix.uni-muenster.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA46301; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 12:53:25 +0100 Received: by asterix.uni-muenster.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA132554; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 12:52:55 +0100 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: clns@uni-muenster.de Message-Id: <9312241152.AA132554@asterix.uni-muenster.de> Subject: Re: CLNS routing in 1994 To: wg-llt-clns@uni-muenster.de Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 12:52:55 +0100 (MEZ) Cc: JOIN Project-Team , Alex Reijnierse , Rebecca Bostwick , DFN-NOC , Juergen Rauschenbach , Thomas Baumgarten , Marcel Wiget , routing@es.net, noop@merit.edu, denise@dxcoms.cern.ch, vistoli@infn.it, Richard Colella , roll@stupi.se, tuba , Alex van der Meij X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2136 Hi all, after I have got the mails from Alex, Becca, Richard and Peter, I want to summarize the new routing situation: The ESnet should use the following NSAP-Prefixes to route to Europe over the link ESnet/WiN: - SWITCH (Switzerland) 39.756F.1111 - IRIS (Spain) 39.724F.1001 - SURFnet (The Netherlands) SURFnet pilot (The Netherlands) PTT Research (The Netherlands) 39.528F.1100 - ARIADNE (Greece) 39.300F.1001 - WiN (Germany) 39.276F.3100 - FUNET (Finland) 39.246F (Peter Lothberg mentioned, that the other prefixes are already routed via the ICMnet to NORDUnet. So is it OK to route only the above prefix over the ESnet/WiN link?) ESnet has to switch these routes to Europe to point to WiN. INFN, HEPnet and INRIA use the link ESnet/INFN for US traffic and announce only their prefixes to ESnet. On the other hand, we (WiN) use the following NSAP prefixes to route to US over the link WiN/ESnet: - NBS OSI network 47.0004 - USA FED GOV OSI NETWORK (includes ALTERNET) 47.0005 - USA 39.840F (Richard Colella mentioned to include this prefix) - Canada 39.124F EuropaNET has to switch these routes to the US to point to WiN. Is this a correct summarize of the situation for the routing in 1994? I would recommend a cut-over date of DEC 29 12.00am (Wednesday). If we do so we have a few more days to clarify the above situation. Do you all agree to this? All the best and a merry christmas!! Guido =============================================================================== J O I N - Join OSI IP Networks - A project of DFN Project-Team e-mail address: Guido Wessendorf, phone: +49 251 83-8459 Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster Universitaetsrechenzentrum Einsteinstrasse 60 D-48149 Muenster / Germany ===============================================================================   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01536; 24 Dec 93 7:02 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01532; 24 Dec 93 7:02 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03937; 24 Dec 93 7:02 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id FAA27805; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 05:01:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id FAA16682; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 05:02:31 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id FAA16679; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 05:02:30 -0700 Received: from obelix.uni-muenster.de by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id FAA27798; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 05:01:40 -0700 Received: from ASTERIX.UNI-MUENSTER.DE by obelix.uni-muenster.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA38680; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 13:01:47 +0100 Received: by asterix.uni-muenster.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16190; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 13:01:20 +0100 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: clns@uni-muenster.de Message-Id: <9312241201.AA16190@asterix.uni-muenster.de> Subject: Re: CLNS routing in 1994 To: WG-LLT-CLNS Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 13:01:19 +0100 (MEZ) Cc: JOIN Project-Team , Rebecca Bostwick , Alex Reijnierse , Marcel Wiget , Christina Vistoli , denise@dxcoms.cern.ch, Juergen Rauschenbach , Thomas Baumgarten , Alex van der Meij , routing@es.net, tuba , noop@merit.edu, Peter Merdian , DFN-NOC , roll@stupi.se, Richard Colella X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2137 Hi all, after I have got the mails from Alex, Becca, Richard and Peter, I want to summarize the new routing situation: The ESnet should use the following NSAP-Prefixes to route to Europe over the link ESnet/WiN: - SWITCH (Switzerland) 39.756F.1111 - IRIS (Spain) 39.724F.1001 - SURFnet (The Netherlands) SURFnet pilot (The Netherlands) PTT Research (The Netherlands) 39.528F.1100 - ARIADNE (Greece) 39.300F.1001 - WiN (Germany) 39.276F.3100 - FUNET (Finland) 39.246F (Peter Lothberg mentioned, that the other prefixes are already routed via the ICMnet to NORDUnet. So is it OK to route only the above prefix over the ESnet/WiN link?) ESnet has to switch these routes to Europe to point to WiN. INFN, HEPnet and INRIA use the link ESnet/INFN for US traffic and announce only their prefixes to ESnet. On the other hand, we (WiN) use the following NSAP prefixes to route to US over the link WiN/ESnet: - NBS OSI network 47.0004 - USA FED GOV OSI NETWORK (includes ALTERNET) 47.0005 - USA 39.840F (Richard Colella mentioned to include this prefix) - Canada 39.124F EuropaNET has to switch these routes to the US to point to WiN. Is this a correct summarize of the situation for the routing in 1994? I would recommend a cut-over date of DEC 29 12.00am (Wednesday). If we do so we have a few more days to clarify the above situation. Do you all agree to this? All the best and a merry christmas!! Guido =============================================================================== J O I N - Join OSI IP Networks - A project of DFN Project-Team e-mail address: Guido Wessendorf, phone: +49 251 83-8459 Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster Universitaetsrechenzentrum Einsteinstrasse 60 D-48149 Muenster / Germany ===============================================================================   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01560; 24 Dec 93 7:13 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01556; 24 Dec 93 7:13 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa04065; 24 Dec 93 7:13 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id FAA27885; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 05:13:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id FAA16721; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 05:13:48 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id FAA16718; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 05:13:47 -0700 Received: from bsd.stupi.se by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id FAA27878; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 05:12:54 -0700 Received: by bsd.stupi.se (5.67/1.37) id AA14730; Fri, 24 Dec 93 13:09:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 93 13:09:52 MET Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Peter Lothberg To: clns@uni-muenster.de Cc: wg-llt-clns@uni-muenster.de, JOIN Project-Team , Alex Reijnierse , Rebecca Bostwick , DFN-NOC , Juergen Rauschenbach , Thomas Baumgarten , Marcel Wiget , routing@es.net, noop@merit.edu, denise@dxcoms.cern.ch, vistoli@infn.it, Richard Colella , tuba , Alex van der Meij Subject: Re: CLNS routing in 1994 In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 24 Dec 1993 12:52:55 +0100 (MEZ) Message-Id: > - FUNET (Finland) > > 39.246F I checked this, and Finland should also be routed through Funet/NORDUnet, so the following should go to ICMnet on behalf of NORDUnet; 47.0023.0001.0000 ICMnet+Ebone 47.0023.0000.0001 NORDUnet backbone 47.0023.0000.0002 DK 47.0023.0000.0003 FI 47.0023.0000.0004 IS 47.0023.0000.0005 NO 47.0023.0000.0006 SE 47.0023.0000.0007 DECnet-fasV 39.752f.0100.0014 Stupi (part of SE DCC) 39.246f FI DCC Merry X-Mas, Peter (Ps: As ICM/EBone/Nordunet/Sprintlink are doing dynamic routing using I-ISIS internally and ISO-IGRP with filters as a 'IDRP' replacement, I would suggest that a ISO-IGRP session is added between the Dante-GW and EBS in London. (As Amsterdam has not configured I-ISIS))   Received: from ietf.nri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01955; 24 Dec 93 9:29 EST Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa01951; 24 Dec 93 9:29 EST Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa05566; 24 Dec 93 9:29 EST Received: from noc-gw.lanl.gov by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id HAA28491; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 07:29:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id HAA16896; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 07:29:50 -0700 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov by noc-gw.lanl.gov (8.6.4/SMI-4.1) id HAA16893; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 07:29:48 -0700 Received: from empb.net by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.6.4/1.2) id HAA28484; Fri, 24 Dec 1993 07:28:58 -0700 Received: by empb.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00116; Fri, 24 Dec 93 15:26:15 +0100 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Alex van der Meij Message-Id: <9312241426.AA00116@empb.net> Subject: Re: CLNS routing in 1994 To: clns@uni-muenster.de Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 15:26:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: wg-llt-clns@rare.nl, bostwick@es.net, a.a.l.reijnierse@research.ptt.nl, wiget@chx400.switch.ch, denise@dxcoms.cern.ch, rauschenbach@dfn.d400.de, baumgarten@dfn.d400.de, surf030@kub.nl, routing@es.net, tuba@lanl.gov, noop@merit.edu, merdian@rus.uni-stuttgart.d400.de, noc@noc.dfn.de, roll@stupi.se, colella@emu.ncsl.nist.gov Reply-To: nmc@empb.net In-Reply-To: <9312241201.AA16190@asterix.uni-muenster.de> from "clns@uni-muenster.de" at Dec 24, 93 01:01:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2637 Hello all, > > > Hi all, > > after I have got the mails from Alex, Becca, Richard and Peter, I > want to summarize the new routing situation: > > The ESnet should use the following NSAP-Prefixes to route to Europe > over the link ESnet/WiN: > > - SWITCH (Switzerland) > > 39.756F.1111 > > - IRIS (Spain) > > 39.724F.1001 > > - SURFnet (The Netherlands) > SURFnet pilot (The Netherlands) > PTT Research (The Netherlands) > > 39.528F.1100 > > - ARIADNE (Greece) > > 39.300F.1001 > > - WiN (Germany) > > 39.276F.3100 > > - FUNET (Finland) > > 39.246F > > (Peter Lothberg mentioned, that the other prefixes are already > routed via the ICMnet to NORDUnet. So is it OK to route only > the above prefix over the ESnet/WiN link?) > > ESnet has to switch these routes to Europe to point to WiN. > > INFN, HEPnet and INRIA use the link ESnet/INFN for US traffic and announce > only their prefixes to ESnet. > > > On the other hand, we (WiN) use the following NSAP prefixes to route to US > over the link WiN/ESnet: > > - NBS OSI network > > 47.0004 > > - USA FED GOV OSI NETWORK (includes ALTERNET) > > 47.0005 > > - USA > > 39.840F > > (Richard Colella mentioned to include this prefix) > > - Canada > > 39.124F > > EuropaNET has to switch these routes to the US to point to WiN. > > > Is this a correct summarize of the situation for the routing in 1994? For as far I can check: yes. > I would recommend a cut-over date of DEC 29 12.00am (Wednesday). If we > do so we have a few more days to clarify the above situation. > Do you all agree to this? > Without further notice we will switch our routes next wednesday at 12.00am. > All the best and a merry christmas!! > Merry christmas and best regards, Alex van der Meij -- =========================================================================== EuropaNET Network Management Center - Unisource Business Networks Address: Pr. Beatrixlaan 10, PB575 Telephone: +31 70 38 18 468 2595 AL The Hague Telefax: +31 70 38 19 615 The Netherlands email: nmc@empb.net --------------------------------------------------------------------------- For operational problem reports, please send your email to trouble@empb.net If you have any doubt about the proper delivery of your email, please contact the EMP-NMC by other means (telephone/telefax). ===========================================================================