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Hi - 

If you posted to the <agentx@peer.com> or <agentx-request@peer.com>
distribution lists over the last few days, your message may have been
dropped.  (We've been experiencing a system upgrade.  The responsible
parties tell me that everything is working now.)  If you subscribed to
the list and do not get this message, please let us know.  :-)

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Hi Bob,

>etc.).  Personally, I am inclined to wait for the 42nd IETF
>meeting, to be held in Chicago in August...I will outline why
>below, but that is simply based on my own estimates of progress...
>according to which the 41st IETF is just a smidgeon too early.

Waiting until August would work out better for us.

That might also afford the opportunity to hold a bakeoff
and incorporate that feedback into the WG meeting.

>So, I will go ahead and post
>a "straw man" revision in a couple of days for WG review,
>before submitting it to our AD for his consideration and IESG
>approval.

Makes sense to me.  

Thanks,
Mike


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Hi - 

Final preparation for the upgrade of ftp.peer.com:

PLEASE try to access the archives at ftp://198.64.253.235/pub/agentx

This is the new server configuration, under final test before 
cut over sometime this weekend.

If you have problems, please CALL or FAX me.

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Hi - 

I've just gotten confirmation that it works.  Thanks!

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Just letting you know that agentx mail that should have been delivered
to Edmund Chang in BMC was misdirected to Edward Chang in BMC.  This
addressing error was just corrected.

Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.

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From upton@nortel.ca  Tue Feb 17 08:27:57 1998
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Hi,

I was wondering if there is some software library (for HPUX 10.2) that
exists that implements the agentX protocol and provides an API (for
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*	GIVE YOU ACCESS - It's a great door opener with new clients for your core products.
*	INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTIVITY - Creates cross-selling opportunities.
*	BRING YOU NEW CUSTOMERS - Generates more referrals.
*	SATISFY YOUR CUSTOMERS - Offers essential protection for the business and                                   personal markets.
*	MAXIMIZE YOUR COMMISSIONS - Serves as a re-entry vehicle to your existing clients.
*	KEEP YOUR CLIENTS - Protects you from being " back-doored" by competing agents.

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*	Guaranteed issue
*	No underwriting
*	No claims processing or servicing
*	No cancellations except for non-payment or fraud
*	No non-resident licensing or CE hurdles

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*	3 year advanced or as-earned commissions
*	General Agent override commissions
*	Fixed annualized renewals
*	Immediate vesting of commissions (paid twice weekly) - can even be willed to your                       heirs.
*	A 76% persistency rate

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Dear Agent:

Seventy percent (70%) of your clients need our service.  Our company specializes in working with the insurance and financial planning industries.  Whether you operate an agency or represent these products, we can increase your business with our unique service.

Our company has been featured by Forbes, Financial World, Success, and The Wall Street Journal as one of the companies " that will change the way we live in the future."  Our product will be as common as health/auto insurance.  Your customers need this product and will own it.  If you offer it, they can buy it from you!

Our product will:

*	INCREASE REVENUES - Creates a new income stream (immediate & renewal) for your 	business.
*	GIVE YOU ACCESS - It's a great door opener with new clients for your core products.
*	INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTIVITY - Creates cross-selling opportunities.
*	BRING YOU NEW CUSTOMERS - Generates more referrals.
*	SATISFY YOUR CUSTOMERS - Offers essential protection for the business and                                   personal markets.
*	MAXIMIZE YOUR COMMISSIONS - Serves as a re-entry vehicle to your existing clients.
*	KEEP YOUR CLIENTS - Protects you from being " back-doored" by competing agents.

Tired of the paperwork?  We do it for you!  We offer:

*	Guaranteed issue
*	No underwriting
*	No claims processing or servicing
*	No cancellations except for non-payment or fraud
*	No non-resident licensing or CE hurdles

PLUS,

*	3 year advanced or as-earned commissions
*	General Agent override commissions
*	Fixed annualized renewals
*	Immediate vesting of commissions (paid twice weekly) - can even be willed to your                       heirs.
*	A 76% persistency rate

We are looking for Agents and General Agents to market this service.  Selling to small businesses, individuals, and employee groups are all proven sources of income.  Special discounts and billing arrangements available for group accounts.

Your customers are three times more likely to need our product than hospitalization.  Some group users include PepsiCo, IBM, AT&T, Sears, and GM.  In the small business and personal markets you can now offer a product that has virtually NO COMPETITION!

For more information with absolutely NO OBLIGATION, email ourservice@insurer.com.  Please leave your phone number and the best time to contact you.  If evenings are better because of your busy schedule, please leave your home number also.  We get results.  Let us show you how. Your name is not on any fax list and you will not receive any further faxes from our company.

LA Group


From mwhite@cmu.edu  Thu Feb 19 17:22:08 1998
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From: "Matt White" <mwhite@cmu.edu>
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Subject: Context declaration in registration?
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This has probably been talked about on this list, but could someone
summerize why context information is passed in registration and friends
instead of in the OpenPDU (with multiple sessions for slaves that exist in
multiple contexts).

In my case at least, having one context per session would lead to a cleaner
implementation as well as reduce communication overhead and (nominally)
increase security.  I seem to be missing the reasoning that makes the
multiple passing of context strings important.

Thanks in advance.


Matt
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Matt White
Network Systems Designer
Canegie Mellon Computing Services


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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if there is some software library (for HPUX 10.2) that
> exists that implements the agentX protocol and provides an API (for
> writing sub-agent applications).  

We are implementing agentX protocol and also the API for sub-agent applications.

smitha
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Matthew Upton
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Hi Matt,

>This has probably been talked about on this list, but could someone
>summerize why context information is passed in registration and friends
>instead of in the OpenPDU (with multiple sessions for slaves that exist in
>multiple contexts).

Because context is really opaque data to AgentX, session_id is
conceptually "below" the protocol itself and is related to
transport details only, and this more general mechanism seemed
to suit everyone better than a model of 1 context per session.

You're really suggesting we use a numeric context_id, and you're
thinking of "overloading" session_id because it's there.  Is that right?

>In my case at least, having one context per session would lead to a cleaner
>implementation as well as reduce communication overhead and (nominally)
>increase security.  I seem to be missing the reasoning that makes the
>multiple passing of context strings important.

We didn't know what would happen with context vis a vis SNMPv3, etc.

Different implementations have different mechanisms and uses of "context"
within subagents.

So we just left what are essentially placeholders, without any format,
within the PDUs for context indication.

You could pass binary ids and have both ends map them if you wish.

Regards,
Mike

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--On Monday, February 23, 1998, 12:26 PM -0500 "Mike Daniele"
<daniele@zk3.dec.com> wrote: 

> Because context is really opaque data to AgentX, session_id is
> conceptually "below" the protocol itself and is related to
> transport details only, and this more general mechanism seemed
> to suit everyone better than a model of 1 context per session.
> 
> You're really suggesting we use a numeric context_id, and you're
> thinking of "overloading" session_id because it's there.  Is that right?

That's correct.  Now that I think about it again, this would have been a
misuse of the session ID.

> Different implementations have different mechanisms and uses of "context"
> within subagents.
> 
> So we just left what are essentially placeholders, without any format,
> within the PDUs for context indication.
> 
> You could pass binary ids and have both ends map them if you wish.

Good enough and silly me for not thinking of this myself.

Back to hacking.

-Matt

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