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> A SIPP WG meeting will be held on the MBone on Thursday, Dec. 9, from 9 am
> to 12 noon California Time (1700 - 2000 GMT).  I humbly request that others
> refrain from (more) frivolous uses of the MBone during that time.

A couple of people have asked what a "SIPP WG" is.  SIPP is the "Simple
Internet Protocol Plus", one of the proposed successors to IP.  (It is the
result of a merger of two previous proposals called SIP and Pip, which
resulted in the somewhat oxymoronic name "Simple ... Plus".)   WG means
"Working Group".

Steve


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    ***********************************************************************

                              NASA SELECT TV SCHEDULE
                                        STS-61
                                       12/1/93

    ***********************************************************************

    NASA Select programming can be accessed through GE Satcom F2R,
    transponder 13.  The frequency is 3960 MHz with an orbital position
    of 72 degrees West Longitude.  This is a full transponder service
    and will be operational 24 hours a day.

    Two hour edited programs of each flight day will be replayed for Hawaii
    and Alaska on Telstar 301, transponder 9, channel 18.  The orbital
    position is 96 degrees West Longitude, with a frequency of 4060 MHz.
    Audio is 6.2 and 6.8 MHz.  The programs will begin on launch day and
    continue through landing, airing at 11pm Central Time.

    This NASA Select television schedule of mission coverage is available
    on Comstore, the mission TV schedule computer bulletin board service.
    Call 713-483-5817, and follow the prompts to acces this service.



           NASA SELECT COVERAGE BEGINS        KSC                 10:30 PM
           WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 1

    ----------------------------- THURSDAY, DECEMBER 2 --------------------


    ORBIT                SUBJECT              SITE       MET       CST
    -----                -------              ----       ---       ---

           LAUNCH                             KSC     00/00:00    03:27 AM

           NASA SELECT ORIGINATION            JSC     00/00:04    03:31 AM
           SWITCHED TO JSC

           MECO                                       00/00:08    03:35 AM

    1      NASA SELECT ORIGINATION            KSC     00/00:13    03:40 AM
           SWITCHED TO KSC

    1      LAUNCH REPLAYS                     KSC     00/00:13    03:40 AM
           (APPROX. 5 MIN. AFTER MECO)
           T=30:00

    1      NASA SELECT ORIGINATION            JSC     00/00:43    04:10 AM
           SWITCHED TO JSC

    1      NASA SELECT ORIGINATION            KSC     00/01:03    04:30 AM
           SWITCHED TO KSC

    1      POST LAUNCH PRESS CONFERENCE       KSC     00/01:03    04:30 AM

    2      NASA SELECT ORIGINATION            JSC     00/01:33    05:00 AM
           SWITCHED TO JSC

    2      Ku BAND ANTENNA DEPLOY                     00/02:35    06:02 AM
           (not televised)

    3      MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     00/03:33    07:00 AM

    3      P/TV01 PAYLOAD BAY VIEWS           TDRE    00/03:43    07:10 AM
           T=19:00

    5      NASA SELECT ORIGINATION            KSC     00/06:03    09:30 AM
           SWITCHED TO KSC

    5      ENGINEERING LAUNCH REPLAYS         KSC     00/06:03    09:30 AM
           T=30:00

    5      NASA SELECT ORIGINATION            JSC     00/06:33    10:00 AM
           SWITCHED TO JSC

    6      CREW SLEEP                                 00/07:30    10:57 AM

    6      FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     00/08:33    12:00 PM

    7      FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     00/10:33    02:00 PM

    9      FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     00/13:33    05:00 PM

    11     CREW WAKE-UP                               00/15:30    06:57 PM
           (begins FD2)

    11     "STOCC WATCH" UPDATE PROGRAM       GSFC    00/16:33    08:00 PM

    13     RMS CHECKOUT                               00/18:45    10:12 PM
           (not televised)

    13     P/TV02   SSE CHECKOUT              TDRW    00/19:30    10:57 PM
           T=27:00


    ------------------------------ FRIDAY, DECEMBER 3 ---------------------


    14     P/TV03   FSS PREP FOR BERTH        TDRW/E  00/20:40    12:07 AM
           T=40:00

    15     P/TV11   MIDDECK ACTIVITIES        TDRW    00/22:20    01:47 AM
           T=30:00

    16     P/TV11   EMU CHECKOUT              TDRW    01/00:05    03:32 AM
           T=25:00

    17     P/TV11   EMU CHECKOUT              TDRE    01/00:39    04:06 AM
           T=7:00

    17     P/TV11   EMU CHECKOUT              TDRW    01/01:38    05:05 AM
           T=30:00

    18     MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     01/02:03    05:30 AM

    18     P/TV11   EMU CHECKOUT              TDRE    01/02:18    05:45 AM
           T=27:00

    18     P/TV11   EMU CHECKOUT              TDRW    01/03:17    06:44 AM
           T=10:00

    20     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     01/06:03    09:30 AM
           (time subject to change)

    20     CREW SLEEP                                 01/06:30    09:57 AM

    21     FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     01/07:33    11:00 AM

    22     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     01/09:33    01:00 PM

    23     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     01/10:33    02:00 PM

    24     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     01/12:33    04:00 PM

    26     CREW WAKE-UP                               01/14:30    05:57 PM
           (begins FD3)

    26     "STOCC WATCH" UPDATE PROGRAM       GSFC    01/15:33    07:00 PM

    29     Ku BAND CONFIGURE TO RADAR MODE            01/19:30    10:57 PM
           (not televised)


    ----------------------------- SATURDAY, DECEMBER 4 --------------------


    *  NOTE:   HST EVA ACTIVITIES WILL BE TELEVISED ON ORBITS 44-47 AS
               TDRSS AND GSTDN COVERAGE ALLOWS.

    31     Ku BAND CONFIGURE TO COMM MODE             01/23:30    02:57 AM
           (not televised)

    31     HST GRAPPLE                                01/23:43    03:10 AM
           (not televised)

    32     P/TV04   HST BERTHING OPERATIONS   TDRE    02/00:03    03:30 AM
           T=42:00

    32     HST BERTH                          TDRE    02/00:45    04:12 AM

    32     P/TV05 HST SURVEY                  TDRW/E  02/01:06    04:33 AM
           T=99:00

    33     MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     02/02:03    05:30 AM

    34     HST RETRIEVAL VTR DUMP             TDRE    02/03:29    06:56 AM
           T=21:00

    35     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     02/06:03    09:30 AM
           (time subject to change)

    36     CREW SLEEP                                 02/06:30    09:57 AM

    36     FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     02/07:33    11:00 AM

    37     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     02/09:33    01:00 PM

    38     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     02/10:33    02:00 PM

    39     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     02/12:33    04:00 PM

    41     CREW WAKE-UP                               02/14:30    05:57 PM
           (begins FD4)

    41     "STOCC WATCH" UPDATE PROGRAM       GSFC    02/15:33    07:00 PM

    42     MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     02/16:33    08:00 PM

    43     P/TV06 SOLAR ARRAY SLEW            TDRE    02/18:00    09:27 PM
           T=14:00

    44     AIRLOCK EGRESS (begins EVA 1)      TDRE    02/19:25    10:52 PM
           T=25:00


    ----------------------------- SUNDAY, DECEMBER 5 ----------------------


    * NOTE:  HST EVA ACTIVITIES WILL BE TELEVISED ON ORBITS 47-48, 59-61
             AS TDRSS AND GSTDN COVERAGE ALLOWS.

    48     P/TV07   AIRLOCK INGRESS           TDRW/E  03/01:40    05:07 AM
           AND POST EVA ACTIVITIES
           T=72:00

    48     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     03/02:33    06:00 AM
           (time subject to change)

    51     CREW SLEEP                                 03/06:30    09:57 AM

    51     FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     03/07:33    11:00 AM

    52     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     03/09:33    01:00 PM

    53     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     03/10:33    02:00 PM

    54     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     03/12:33    04:00 PM

    56     CREW WAKE-UP                               03/14:30    05:57 PM
           (begins FD5)

    56     "STOCC WATCH" UPDATE PROGRAM       GSFC    03/15:33    07:00 PM

    57     MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     03/16:33    08:00 PM

    57     SOLAR ARRAY RETRACTION             TDRW    03/17:30    08:57 PM
           T=15:00

    58     SOLAR ARRAY RETRACTION             TDRE    03/18:01    09:28 PM
           T=20:00

    59     AIRLOCK EGRESS (begins EVA 2)      TDRE    03/19:25    10:52 PM
           T=40:00

    ----------------------------- MONDAY, DECEMBER 6 ----------------------

    * NOTE:  HST EVA ACTIVITIES WILL BE TELEVISED ON ORBITS 61-62, 74-76
             AS TDRSS AND GSTDN COVERAGE ALLOWS.

    62     AIRLOCK INGRESS                    TDRW    04/01:19    04:46 AM
           T=18:00

    63     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     04/02:33    06:00 AM
           (time subject to change)

    66     CREW SLEEP                                 04/06:30    09:57 AM

    66     FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     04/07:33    11:00 AM

    67     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     04/09:33    01:00 PM

    68     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     04/10:33    02:00 PM

    69     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     04/12:33    04:00 PM

    71     CREW WAKE-UP                               04/14:30    05:57 PM
           (begins FD 6)

    71     "STOCC WATCH" UPDATE PROGRAM       GSFC    04/15:33    07:00 PM

    72     MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     04/16:33    08:00 PM

    73     P/TV11 MIDDECK ACTIVITIES          TDRW    04/18:33    10:00 PM
           T=20:00

    74     AIRLOCK EGRESS (begins EVA 3)      TDRE    04/19:25    10:52 PM
           T=20:00

    ----------------------------- TUESDAY, DECEMBER 7 ---------------------


    * NOTE:  HST EVA ACTIVITIES WILL BE TELEVISED ON ORBITS 76-78, 89-91
             AS TDRSS AND GSTDN COVERAGE ALLOWS.

    77     AIRLOCK INGRESS                            05/01:35    05:02 AM
           (not televised)

    78     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     05/02:33    06:00 AM
           (time subject to change)

    80     CREW SLEEP                                 05/06:30    09:57 AM

    81     FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     05/07:33    11:00 AM

    82     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     05/09:33    01:00 PM

    83     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     05/10:33    02:00 PM

    84     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     05/12:33    04:00 PM

    85     CREW WAKE-UP                               05/14:30    05:57 PM
           (begins FD7)

    86     "STOCC WATCH" UPDATE PROGRAM       GSFC    05/15:33    07:00 PM

    87     MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     05/16:33    08:00 PM

    88     P/TV11 MIDDECK ACTIVITIES          TDRE    05/18:12    09:39 PM
           T=23:00

    89     AIRLOCK EGRESS (begins EVA 4)      TDRW    05/19:25    10:52 PM
           T=15:00

    ----------------------------- WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 8 -------------------


    * NOTE:  HST EVA ACTIVITIES WILL BE TELEVISED ON ORBITS 91-92, 103-105
             AS TDRSS AND GSTDN TV COVERAGE ALLOWS.

    92     AIRLOCK INGRESS                            06/01:10    04:37 AM
           (not televised)

    93     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     06/02:33    06:00 AM
           (time subject to change)

    95     CREW SLEEP                                 06/06:30    09:57 AM

    96     FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     06/07:33    11:00 AM

    97     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     06/09:33    01:00 PM

    98     MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     06/10:33    02:00 PM

    99     FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     06/12:33    04:00 PM

    100    CREW WAKE-UP                               06/14:30    05:57 PM
           (begins FD8)

    101    "STOCC WATCH" UPDATE PROGRAM       GSFC    06/15:33    07:00 PM

    102    MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     06/16:33    08:00 PM

    102    P/TV08  EVA PREP                   TDRW    06/17:02    08:29 PM
           T=8:00

    102    P/TV08 EVA PREP                    TDRE/W  06/17:40    09:07 PM
           T=25:00

    103    P/TV08 EVA PREP                    TDRE    06/18:07    09:34 PM
           T=13:00

    104    AIRLOCK EGRESS (begins EVA 5)      TDRE    06/19:25    10:52 PM
           T=60:00

    ----------------------------- THURSDAY, DECEMBER 9 --------------------


    * NOTE:  HST EVA ACTIVITIES WILL BE TELEVISED ON ORBITS 106-107 AS
             TDRSS AND GSTDN COVERAGE ALLOWS.

    107    AIRLOCK INGRESS                    TDRE    07/01:20    04:47 AM
           T=13:00

    108    MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     07/02:33    06:00 AM
           (time subject to change)

    110    CREW SLEEP                                 07/06:30    09:57 AM

    111    FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     07/07:33    11:00 AM

    112    FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     07/09:33    01:00 PM

    113    MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     07/10:33    02:00 PM

    114    FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     07/12:33    04:00 PM

    115    CREW WAKE-UP                               07/14:30    05:57 PM
           (begins FD9)

    116    "STOCC WATCH" UPDATE PROGRAM       GSFC    07/15:33    07:00 PM

    118    P/TV09 HST RELEASE OPERATIONS      TDRW    07/18:00    09:27 PM
           T=10:00

    118    P/TV09 HST RELEASE OPERATIONS      TDRE    07/18:15    09:42 PM
           T=33:00

    119    P/TV09 HST RELEASE OPERATIONS      TDRE    07/19:30    10:57 PM
           T=62:00

    ----------------------------- FRIDAY, DECEMBER 10 ---------------------


    119    Ku BAND CONFIGURE TO RADAR MODE            07/21:00    12:27 AM
           (not televised)

    120    HST RELEASE                        TDRE    07/21:41    01:08 AM
           (not televised)

    121    Ku BAND CONFIGURE TO COMM MODE             07/22:45    02:12 AM
           (not televised)

    122    HST RELEASE VTR DUMP               TDRE    08/01:07    04:34 AM
           T=33:00

    123    MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     08/02:03    05:30 AM

    125    MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     08/06:03    09:30 AM
           (time subject to change)

    125    CREW SLEEP                                 08/06:30    09:57 AM

    126    FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     08/07:03    10:30 AM

    127    FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     08/09:03    12:30 PM

    128    MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     08/10:03    01:30 PM

    129    FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     08/12:03    03:30 PM

    130    CREW WAKE-UP                               08/14:30    05:57 PM
           (begins FD10)

    ----------------------------- SATURDAY, DECEMBER 11 -------------------


    138    MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     09/02:03    05:30 AM

    140    CREW SLEEP                                 09/05:30    08:57 AM

    140    MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     09/06:03    09:30 AM
           (time subject to change)

    141    FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     09/07:03    10:30 AM

    142    FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     09/09:03    12:30 PM

    143    MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     09/10:03    01:30 PM

    144    FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     09/12:03    03:30 PM

    145    CREW WAKE-UP                               09/13:30    04:57 PM
           (begins FD11)

    148    MISSION STATUS BRIEFING            JSC     09/19:33    11:00 PM
           (time subject to change)

    ----------------------------- SUNDAY, DECEMBER 12 ---------------------


    149    P/TV13 CREW CONFERENCE             TDRW    09/20:45    12:12 AM
           T=30:00

    153    MISSION UPDATE                     JSC     10/02:03    05:30 AM

    153    Ku BAND ANTENNA STOW                       10/02:20    05:47 AM
           (not televised)

    155    CREW SLEEP                                 10/05:30    08:57 AM

    156    FD HIGHLIGHTS                      JSC     10/07:03    10:30 AM

    157    FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     10/09:03    12:30 PM

    158    MISSION STATUS BRIEFING REPLAY     JSC     10/10:03    01:30 PM

    159    FD HIGHLIGHTS REPLAY               JSC     10/12:03    03:30 PM

    160    CREW WAKE-UP                               10/13:30    04:57 PM
           (begins FD12)

    ----------------------------- MONDAY, DECEMBER 13 ---------------------


    165    DEORBIT BURN                               10/20:45    12:12 AM
           (not televised)

    166    KSC LANDING                        KSC     10/21:45    01:12 AM

           LANDING REPLAYS                    KSC       TBD        TBD

           POST LANDING PRESS CONFERENCE      KSC       TBD        TBD


    ***********************************************************************
                                  DEFINITION OF TERMS
    ***********************************************************************

    CST:      CENTRAL STANDARD TIME
    EMU:      EXTRAVEHICULAR MOBILITY UNIT
    EVA:      EXTRAVEHICULAR ACTIVITY
    FD:       FLIGHT DAY
    FSS:      FLIGHT SUPPORT SYSTEM
    GSFC:     GODDARD SPACE FLIGHT CENTER
    GSTDN:    GROUND SPACECRAFT TRACKING AND DATA NETWORK
    HST:      HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE
    JSC:      JOHNSON SPACE CENTER
    KSC:      KENNEDY SPACE CENTER
    MECO:     MAIN ENGINE CUT-OFF
    MET:      MISSION ELAPSED TIME.  THE TIME WHICH BEGINS AT MOMENT OF
              LAUNCH AND IS READ:  DAYS/HOURS:MINUTES.  LAUNCH=00/00:00
    P/TV:     PHOTOGRAPHIC/TELEVISION ACTIVITY
    RMS:      REMOTE MANIPULATION SYSTEM
    SSE:      SPACE SUPPORT EQUIPMENT
    STOCC:    SPACE TELESCOPE OPERATIONS CONTROL CENTER
    TBD:      TO BE DETERMINED
    TDRE,W:   TRACKING AND DATA RELAY SATELLITE, EAST AND WEST LONGITUDES
    TDRSS:    TRACKING AND DATA RELAY SATELLITE SYSTEM
    VTR:      VIDEOTAPE RECORDER

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To: madman@INNOSOFT.COM, rem-conf@es.net
Subject: any interest in MIB's for multimedia servers and/or conferencing?
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 93 12:21:13 -0500
From: Jim Perchik <perchik@moon.mit.edu>


is there any interest in defining MIB's for management of multimedia servers
and/or videoconferencing? perhaps a new working group?

thanks.

Jim Perchik
MIT Center for Advanced Engineering Study, 9-470
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Cambridge, MA 02139
(617)253-1967

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Subject: IMM 2.7 release
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Cc: torben@Hawaii.Edu, Craig Ruff <cruff@niwot.scd.ucar.EDU>, 
    Fred Templin <templin@postgres.Berkeley.EDU>
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I'd like to announce the availability of IMM version 2.7. It can be ftp'd
from ftp.hawaii.edu in subdir /ftp/paccom/imm-2.7.  Starting today, all of the
GOES, GMS and Meteosat images tranmissions will require version 2.6 or better.
Some of the main features of version 2.7 are :

1. Users are now able to put received images into its own window either
automatically or on demand. This is for anyone who is having root colormap
problems. 

2. Bug fixes to the termination cleanup routine.

Many thanks to Craig Ruff and Fred Templin for their assistance again.

Winston



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From: bilting@it.kth.se (Ulf Bilting)
Subject: MICE seminar Monday Dec 6
Cc: perl@it.kth.se, bohm@it.kth.se, mahidell@it.kth.se, peter@sics.se

The MICE seminar on Monday Dec 6 at 15.00 CET (=14.00 GMT) will be live
multicast from KTH, Stockholm. The usual multicast addresses will be used

vat   224.5.17.12/3456
ivs   224.5.17.12/2232
wb    224.5.17.12/32416

There is an entry in sd but beware that wb might not start automatically if
versions are incompatible.

'The DTM Gigabit Network' - a fast circuit-switched network for
high-speed communication.

DTM is a fiber-optic network, based on bandwidth reservation and 
with support for dynamic reallocation of bandwidth. It is designed 
for real-time multimedia applications and for high-speed computer 
communication. DTM uses a novel medium-access technique and 
provides a multicast connection-oriented service. Several DTM networks 
can be connected into one large network. A prototype implementation 
and testbed has been constructed.

Speakers will be some combination of
Christer Bohm, Markus Hidell, Per Lindgren and Peter Sjodin.




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Subject: Call For Papers




===========================================================================
                           CALL FOR PAPERS
                       COMPUTER COMMUNICATIONS:
           SPECIAL ISSUE ON MULTIMEDIA STORAGE AND DATABASES
===========================================================================
It is widely recognized that the success of a multimedia computer
system is dependent of the ability to integrate diverse technical
components encompassing data communications, data compression, data
storage and user interfaces.  For example, current video-on-demand
(VOD) deployments for broadcast entertainment provide only the most
basic of interactive features due to system complexity.  Future
multimedia systems must support true-VOD interaction though a tighter
coupling between communications and storage architectures.

This special issue for Computer Communications will focus on the
storage and database aspects of multimedia systems and their
relationship to other system components.  To this end we seek original
research results on all aspects of databases, storage and access for
multimedia data.

Topics include, but are not limited to:

  o physical organizations supporting continuous media
      - delay and bandwith optimization
      - multimedia data synchronization

  o logical organizations for multimedia data
      - indexing
      - data representations
      - content-based retrieval
      - random access
      - query languages for multimedia
      - metadata management

  o video-on-demand architectures
      - multimedia data servers
      - RAID for video
      - data distribution for large multimedia databases
      - network abstractions for data access and retrieval

IMPORTANT DATES:

Submissions due:     April 1,     1994
Author notification: June 30,     1994
Publishing date:     December     1994

AUTHOR INFORMATION: 

Authors are requested to submit six copies (in English) of their
manuscript (maximum of 25 pages including figures, minimum of 4
lines/inch, and minimum of 11pt font) to the guest editor. Submissions
should include a separate title page including the author name(s),
affiliation(s), and address(es) with email. The body of the manuscript
should be preceded by an abstract of less than 250 words, and up to
five keywords for indexing.

Original papers, not published elsewhere or not simultaneously
submitted for publication elsewhere, will be considered.  Papers
previously appearing in conference proceedings will be considered if
stated as such and have significant revision.

Submit papers to the guest editor:

Prof. T.D.C. Little
Department of Electrical, Computer and Systems Engineering
Boston University
44 Cummington Street
Boston, MA 02215 USA
(617) 353-9877, (617) 353-6440 fax
tdcl@flash.bu.edu
===========================================================================


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Subject: Call For Papers




===========================================================================
                           CALL FOR PAPERS
                       COMPUTER COMMUNICATIONS:
           SPECIAL ISSUE ON SYSTEM SUPPORT FOR MULTIMEDIA COMPUTING
===========================================================================

The international data communications research journal "Computer
Communications" announces a special issue on  

System Support for Multimedia Computing

Guest Editor: Professor Kevin Jeffay
Department of Computer Science, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill


Inexpensive hardware for processing digitized audio and video data is
rapidly becoming available for desktop PCs. At the same time, high
network bandwidth at relatively low price is now widely available at
the desktop. This has led to the development of applications and
technologies for computer-based conferencing.     

This special issue of "Computer Communications" aims to present and
document current research in operating and network support for
multimedia conferencing. The focus will be on transport protocols and
allied issues. Relevant topics include:   

-	media synchronization schemes
-	admission control
-	conference control
-	jitter control schemes
-	congestion/flow management schemes
-	application-level protocols
-	real-time resource allocation algorithms
-	practice and experience
-	performance models and studies.

IMPORTANT DATES:

Submissions due:     August 15,   1994
Author notification: Nov. 15,     1994
Publishing date:     July         1995

AUTHOR INFORMATION: 

Submissions made to the special issue should not have appeared in, or
been submitted to other archival publications. All papers will be
subjected to the journal's usual refereeing process. Papers developed
from earlier conference and workshop presentations are welcome.

Prospective authors should send six copies of their manuscript (in
English) to the guest editor:     

Professor K Jeffay, Department of Computer Science,
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill,, NC
27599-3175, USA. Tel: +1 919 962 1938; Fax: +1 919 962 1799; Email:
jeffay@cs.unc.edu   

Authors are advised to consult the journal's 'Notes for Authors' and
'Notes for Authors Submitting on Disk', published in the journal or
available from the General Editor (PO Box 31, Market Harborough, Leics
LE16 9RQ, UK)  or from the US Editor (Raj Yavatkar, Department of
Computer Science, University of Kentucky, 40506-0027, USA,
raj@dcs.uky.edu) before submitting their papers.    



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To: rem-conf@es.net, mbone@ISI.EDU
Subject: MICE Demonstration/Seminar: Tuesday 14th December.
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 93 11:24:48 +0000
From: Gordon Joly <G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk>


A special demonstration from the MICE group will take place on 
Tuesday Dec 14 1993 at 15.00 CET (=14.00 GMT/UTC) until
approximately 17:00 CET.

It is transmitted on the usual multicast addresses:

vat   224.5.17.12/3456
ivs   224.5.17.12/2232
wb    224.5.17.12/32416

and will be advertised in "sd". There will also be some trials the day
before. There will be speakers from UCL and six remote sites, namely
GMD, UiO, RUS, INRIA, SICS and NTR. Each site will give an overview of
their contributions to the MICE project.

Remote sites will in invited to ask question in the normal way.

Please limit traffic at these times,

Many thanks,

Gordon Joly   Phone +44 71 380 7777 ext 3703   FAX +44 71 387 1397
Email: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk   UUCP: ...!{uunet,uknet}!ucl-cs!G.Joly
Comp Sci, University College London, Gower Street, LONDON WC1E 6BT


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From: Christopher Davis <ckd@kei.com>
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To: rem-conf@es.net
Subject: video digitizer boards for Suns (both SunOS 4.x and 5.x)?
X-Attribution: ckd

I've been asked to find a video digitizer SBus card for use with MBONE
applications (like nv), as well as stuff like generating JPEG snapshots.
Right now, it would be going in an IPX running 4.1.2 and X11R5 (not
BrokenWindows), but it might need to be moved to an IPX or LX running 5.3
later on, so SunOS 5 compatibility is an issue.

We'd prefer not to run BrokenWindows if at all possible (the VideoPix
info sheet claims it needs OW2.x, and doesn't say anything about SunOS 5
compatibility either).

What are people using?  What are your experiences with it?  Mail me, I'll
summarize (if there's a rem-conf FAQ, this should probably go in it).

--Chris

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From: ari@es.net (Ari Ollikainen)
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To: MBONE@isi.edu, agarton@peg.apc.org
Subject: Re: CU-SeeMe Soft
Cc: rem-conf@es.net


> From list-mgr@ISI.EDU Wed Dec  8 04:36:34 1993
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 00:37:43 -0800
> From: agarton@peg.apc.org
> To: MBONE@ISI.EDU
> Subject: CU-SeeMe Soft
> Content-Length: 791
> 
> I was wondering whether anyone could help me source a copy
> of the soft, CU-See Me, for the Mac. I'm working on a project
> to network computer animation from sequences of a live
> performance of an opera being performed in Sydney, April 94,
> and Melbourne, Nov 94 from Australia.
> 
> The Sydney project is in association with the Power House
> Museum and Melbourne is with the Swinburne University of
> Technology: Centre for Animation and Interactive Multimedia.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated...
> 
> Andrew Garton
> 
> P E G A S U S  N E T W O R K S________________________________________   
> po box 284                                          ph  +61 7 257 1111
> broadway qld 4006  australia                        fax +61 7 257 1087
> ------------------------------------------------- <agarton@peg.apc.org>
> 
> 

You'll find all you need at gated.cornell.edu in pub/video:

drwxrwxr-x  2 root     216           512 Apr 30  1993 .cap
-rw-r--r--  1 478      216          1145 Oct 18 14:46 AV.README.10_18_93.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 109      216         45440 May  5  1993 AdminTCP1.1.1.bin
-rw-rw-rw-  1 109      216         13980 Sep  7 14:07 CU-SeeMe.README.9-7.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 109      216         41216 Jul 16 16:05 CU-SeeMe0.42.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 478      216         41984 Oct 18 14:27 CU-SeeMe0.42AV.bin
-rw-rw-rw-  1 109      216        204160 Nov 16 17:13 Fetch_2.1.bin
-rw-rw-rw-  1 109      216        277029 Nov 16 17:13 Fetch_2.1.hqx
-rw-rw-rw-  1 109      216        114816 Nov 16 17:14 Fetch_Help.bin
-rw-rw-rw-  1 109      216        155272 Nov 16 17:13 Fetch_Help.hqx
-rw-r--r--  1 109      216        114432 May  5  1993 MacTCP1.1.1.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 478      216         41728 Oct  5 17:41 PAL-CU-SeeMe0.42.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 109      216        296960 Apr  7  1993 SpigotVDIG.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 110      216         57344 May  3  1993 reflect.v9.tar

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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510-423-5962  FAX:510-423-8744   P.O. BOX 5509, MS L-561, Livermore, CA 94550  
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From: lear@yeager.corp.sgi.com (Eliot Lear)
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 14:24:01 -0800
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--- Forwarded mail from dia@wais.com (Dia Cheney)

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 16:59:46 PST
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From: dia@wais.com (Dia Cheney)
Subject: SIGWEB Meeting on Dec. 14

The third SIG-Web meeting will be held at the Silicon Graphics Mountain
View Campus on Tues. December 14th, from 3-5 PM (PST).  SEE BELOW FOR
DIRECTIONS.

Main Presenter for this month's meeting:

-Brewster Kahle, President
Wide Area Information Servers, Inc.

Title of Talk:  NetBook:  Gopher/Web/WAIS

The topics covered in this talk will include: network publishing as a
nascent industry, WAIS technology, WAIS Inc, new servers, and protocol
standards.

Brewster will present his ideas using the structure of the book as an
analogy.   A book has 3 parts: the table of contents, pages, and back
of the book index.  There are rudimentary versions of these on the
Internet:  Gopher, Web, and WAIS (respectively), but the "binding" has
yet to be made since the tools are not well integrated.  In this talk,
he will present this analogy to the tools of the Internet and what it
might imply for the next generation systems.


-Silicon Graphics should also be giving a short presentation. (More
detail on the topic as it becomes available.)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Tues, December 14, 1993
Time: 3:00 - 5:00 p.m.
Location:

Silicon Graphics
2011 North Shoreline Blvd
Mountain View

DIRECTIONS TO SILICON GRAPHICS CAMPUS:

(Here is the URL for maps to and of the SGI campus)

http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/Doc/SGI-info.html


>From Highway 101 North
Exit at Shoreline Blvd./Middlefield Road.  Take the first exit
(Shoreline Blvd.) and turn left at the light onto Shoreline Blvd.
Pass Charleston (next light) and make a right into Shoreline
Technology Park (at the beige brick walls).

>From Highway 101 South
Exit at Shoreline Blvd North.  Cross over the freeway (through
light) and continue toward the Bay.  Pass Charleston (next light)
and make a right into Shoreline Technology Park ( at the beige
brick walls).

The IRIS cafe is the ground floor of building 5, which will be
on the right hand side toward the end of the campus, just after the
park with the gazebo.

-------------------------------

- Requests to be added to/deleted from the sig-web mailing list
should be sent to sig-web-request@library.ucsf.edu.


--- End of forwarded mail from dia@wais.com (Dia Cheney)


-- 
Eliot Lear
[lear@sgi.com]


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Subject: reminder: MBone "reservation" for tomorrow
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 14:32:17 PST
Sender: Steve Deering <deering@parc.xerox.com>
From: Steve Deering <deering@parc.xerox.com>
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I'd appreciate the reduction or curtailment of other MBone traffic
tomorrow (Thursday, Dec 9) from 9 am to 12 noon Pacific Time
(1700 to 2000, GMT), during the SIPP Working Group teleconference.
The Space Shuttle astronauts will be sleeping during that time, so
you shouldn't miss too much if the NASA Select feed is halted then.

Thanks,
Steve


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Subject: potential PARC Forum talk today
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 08:12:37 PST
Sender: Steve Deering <deering@parc.xerox.com>
From: Steve Deering <deering@parc.xerox.com>
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I will try to transmit the following seminar on the MBone this afternoon
(4 pm Pacific, 2400 GMT), if I can get the speaker's permission to do so.
If so, the session will be advertised in sd under the name "Xerox PARC Forum".

Steve

--------------

PARC Forum
Thursday, December 9, 1993
Xerox PARC Auditorium, 4:00 pm

HISTORY, TIME, AND THE REMAKING OF THE MODERN 
LITERARY SYSTEM IN THE ELECTRONIC AGE

Carla Hesse 
University of California, Berkeley

What can the history of publishing in Revolutionary France tell us
about the future of publishing in the late twentieth century? What
does the French Revolution have to do with the Internet? During the
French Revolution, there were extensive experiments with new forms of
documents and intense debates about intellectual property. Arguing
that ideas could not be owned, the press was wholly deregulated in
1789, in the expectation that there would follow an efflorescence of
democratic debate. Instead the presses churned out great amounts of
seditious pamphlets and pornography, and many established publishing
houses went out of business. As a result, legislation was initiated to
recognize the rights of the author, for the first time grounding the
publishing industry in the principles of market commerce. The
parallels with current discussions are striking, and I will argue that
now as then, the development of new communicative forms will be
determined not by technologies, but by the conscious choices that
people make in deploying them.

------------------------

Carla Hesse is Associate Professor of History at the University of
California, Berkeley. Her research has focused on various aspects of
16th to 20th century Europe, including topics such as the Social and
Political History of Ideas, and Women Writers in Revolutionary France.
She is the author of "Publishing and Cultural Politics in Revolutionary
Paris".

------------------------

Host: Chris Van de Walle (EML)

This Forum is OPEN to the public.  All are invited.

For more information contact Chris Van de Walle at (415) 812-4163 
(vandewalle@parc.xerox.com).

Refreshments will be served at 3:45 P.M. for Forum Attendees only.

The PARC Auditorium is located at 3333 Coyote Hill Rd. in Palo Alto.
We are in the Stanford Research Park, between Page Mill Road (west of
Foothill Expressway) and Hillview Avenue.  The easiest way here is to
get onto Page Mill Road, then turn onto Coyote Hill Road.  As you drive
up Coyote Hill past the horse pastures, PARC is the building on the
left after you crest the hill.  Park in the large lot, and enter the
auditorium at the upper level of the building. (The auditorium entrance
is located down the stairs and to the left of the main doors.)

Upcoming Forums:

Thursday, December 16, 4 pm: Gerhard Casper (Stanford University) on 
   "The Future of Undergraduate Education"

Thursday, January 6, 4 pm: John Lazzaro (UC Berkeley) on 
   "Modeling Hearing in Analog VLSI"


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From: frank@manua.gsfc.nasa.gov (Frank Chen)
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To: rem-conf@es.net
Subject: SIPP nv has no video

Is there any video feed to SIPP nv? My vat and wb have no problem
getting the feed. Furthermore, if I have one too many nv session up, 
I will get message like:
vinoSetupConnection: No mem node available
couldn't set up paths

And only the upper half of the nv window will show up.
What does the above message mean?
===============================================================================
| Chih-Hung Chen (Frank)                    | email: frank@manua.gsfc.nasa.gov|
| General Sciences Corp.(SAIC)              | fax  : (301) 286-3221           |
| Software Development - SeaWiFS Data System| voice: (301) 286-9531           |
| System/Network         SeaWiFS Project    |                                 |
| NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center          |                                 |
| Code 970.2                                |                                 |
| Greenbelt, Maryland 20771                 |                                 |
===============================================================================


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        Greetings..
 
 
        We're not getting any video for the "NASA Shuttle STS-61" session.  Nv is
        reporting ~100 kbps @ around 2 fps as i type.. but all i see is a blank
        screen.  what am i doing wrong??
 
        keith
 

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Please limit traffic at Tuesday afternoon.

A special demonstration from the MICE group will take place on Tuesday
Dec 14 1993 at 15.00 CET (=14.00 GMT/UTC) until approximately 17:00
CET and possibly later. There will "tests" all day.

It is transmitted on the usual multicast addresses:

vat   224.5.17.12/3456
ivs   224.5.17.12/2232
wb    224.5.17.12/32416

and will be advertised in "sd". There will also be some trials the day
before. There will be speakers from UCL and six remote sites, namely
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their contributions to the MICE project.

Remote sites will in invited to ask question in the normal way.

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Subject: Larry King at the National Press Club

On Wednesday, 12/15/93 at 1PM EST, Larry King will be speaking
at the National Press Club.  You can listen to Larry King speak
on National Public Radio (call your local station for more
information) or on the Multicast Backbone (go get the file
faq.txt from ISI.EDU for more information about the MBONE).

For the first time, the National Press Club will be taking
questions from the Internet for the guest speaker.  If you 
have a question to ask Larry King, send it to:

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Greetings,
I will be involved in a meeting this Friday (December 17) from 2-4 EST and
would like to ask if there are any folks out there (internationally if possible)
that might be willing to make themselves available for a quick demonstration of
NV, VAT and WB.  One of the participants at this end would be Dr. Robert
Ballard, discoverer of the Titanic.
Depending upon the time constraints of the meeting, we might not actually be
able to get to the demonstration, but I would like to have the option there if
time permits. The session will be advertised on SD as 'JASON Project'.
Thanks and look forward to so interesting exchanges.
best regards,
gene feldman
nasa/goddard space flight center
gene@manono.gsfc.nasa.gov


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From: Stephen Casner <CASNER@ISI.EDU>
Subject: MBONE and REM-CONF lists (was: Video cards and NV)
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Camil Samaha <Camil_Samaha@jhuapl.edu> wrote:
> I am looking for a video card for a Sparc10 workstation that would work with 
> NV (transmit and receive).  I would really appreciate any suggestions and 
> recommendations about what is available and what works.

It turns out that Christopher Davis <ckd@kei.com> has just asked a
similar question on the rem-conf list, and said he would summarize the
responses.

Let me suggest that the rem-conf list is actually the better choice
for this discussion because that list focuses more on remote
conferencing software, hardware and protocol issues and includes more
of the end users among its participants.  The mbone list, on the other
hand, concentrates on MBONE topology engineering issues, testing of
the kernel multicast software, etc., and is populated mostly by people
responsible for operation of MBONE routers.

To join the rem-conf list, send a message to rem-conf-request@es.net
and not to the list itself (following the usual -request convention).

                                                        -- Steve

p.s.  This message is intended as a clarification, not a complaint.
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> 
> Let me suggest that the rem-conf list is actually the better choice
> for this discussion because that list focuses more on remote
> conferencing software, hardware and protocol issues and includes more
> of the end users among its participants.  The mbone list, on the other
> hand, concentrates on MBONE topology engineering issues, testing of
> the kernel multicast software, etc., and is populated mostly by people
> responsible for operation of MBONE routers.
> 
> To join the rem-conf list, send a message to rem-conf-request@es.net
> and not to the list itself (following the usual -request convention).
> 
>                                                         -- Steve
> 
> p.s.  This message is intended as a clarification, not a complaint.
> -------
> 

Thank you, Steve. I've been meaning to make a similar observation and
clarifying suggestion... ALSO, I'd like to further suggest that the 
ANNOUNCEMENT of MBONE events be confined to a MBONE-announce list. 

(For some reason the SD panel for PARC seminars used to suggest that 
interested parties monitor rem-conf for seminar announcements. Some 
people in the SF Bay Area took this to mean that rem-conf was intended 
for MBONE announcements...)

While I've got your attention, I'd like organizations which do not 
already have rem-conf local forwarders to volunteer to set these up.

A current copy of the list membership can be found on nic.es.net in the
pub/ietf/rem-conf directory.

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Ari,
	Uh, oh.  There is no mbone-announce list, and I have stated in
the past (even recently) that announcements of events to be multicast
on the MBONE should be sent to the rem-conf list rather than the mbone
list because the end users who would want to see those announcements
are on the rem-conf list than on the mbone list (by design).  I gather
that you think these announcements are inappropriate for the rem-conf
list or induces too many people to joint that list?  Or are you just
pointing out that event organizers may be uncertain where to send the
announcements?

When this topic has come up for discussion in the past, there has been
some reluctance to create yet another list just for announcements of
events on the MBONE.  In particular because both the rem-conf list and
the mbone list are constructed of a hierarchy of forwarders, that
would mean a new forwarder would need to be installed at each node for
the -announce list.

But, I am certainly willing to reconsider the question.
							    -- Steve
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I remember that a couple of weeks ago somebody posted a message relating
to storage and retrieval of mutimedia conference minutes via a hypermedia 
system such as Mosaic. I'm interested in being able to do just this, but 
have managed to lose the message concerned. If anyone has information on 
setting up this type of facility I'd be grateful if you could mail me.

Regards, Mike.

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If you're talking about multicast transmissions over the MBONE, try
looking at http://www.it.kth.se/~klemets/vatplay.html - this gives
you pointers to a bunch of programs that let you record and replay
wb, ivs, vat and nv traffic...  Synchronised replay can be a bit of
a bugger though! :-)

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Please remove me from the mailing list

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>I remember that a couple of weeks ago somebody posted a message relating
>to storage and retrieval of mutimedia conference minutes via a hypermedia 
>system such as Mosaic. 

You probably want the MICE seminars server at KTH in Stockholm:

URL is  http://www.it.kth.se/~klemets/vatplay.html

Mark

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Subject: Telecon XIII Video Update
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MCNC has been asked to look into rebroadcasting the satellite
broadcast of the "Telecon XIII Video Update" over the mbone.
The program will run from 2-4 pm EST Jan 5, and will consist
of highlights and summaries from the Telecon XIII conference.

This program looks like it might be of some interest to the
people doing remote conferencing on the Internet, so I'd like
to hear from anyone who has any comments or questions about
whether an Internet multicast of the program is appropriate.

Thanks for your input.

	Tim Seaver
	MCNC - CONCERT Network
	tas@concert.net

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Telecon XIII Video Update	January 5, 1994, 2:00 p.m. EST


2:00 	Highlights of the Opening - Keynote Tape Excerpts

	    o  Norman Gaut, Chairman, CEO, President, PictureTel Corp.
	    o  Sen. Edward Kennedy, Chair, US Senate Education Committee
	    o  Dr. Inabeth Miller, Executive Director, Mass. Corp. for
		Educational Telecommunications
	    o  General Paul Funk, Commanding General, US Army Armor Center,
		Fort Knox

2:15	Desktop Videoconferencing - David Boomstein, Vice President,
	  Desktop Programs, Applied Business TeleCommunications

	    o  Showcase
	    o  Desktop Videoconferencing Report (First Release)
	    o  Issues with Desktop
		o  Local Area Networks
		o  Compatibility
			VTEL
			PictureTel
		o  Desktop Interoperability
			Glenn Norem, CEO, Viewpoint Systems
		o  Q&A and Discussion

2:50	Audiographics/Multimedia

	    o  CATS - Consortium for Audiographics Tellecommunications
		Standards

2:55	Distance Learning - USDLA Elections, Awards, New Chapters;
	  Dr. Inabeth Miller, President, USDLA.
	

3:00	Business TV

	    o Results of First Annual BTV Roundtable - John McGuiness,
		Network Manager, Aetna Life and Casualty
	    o Westcott Communications Training Rooms - Joshua D. Klarin,
		Vice President and GM, Interactive Distance Training Network,
		Westcott Communications
	    o Market Research on BTV Corporate Training - Dr. Charles
	    	Grantham, Institute for the Study of Distributed Work
	    	(First Release of Results)

3:30	ETC

	    o  TeleCons Newspaper's Role in BTV

3:50	Previews of Programs

	    o  Candace Laass, Director of Marketing, Quality Learning
		Services, US Chamber of Commerce
	    o  NAFTA



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> 
> MCNC has been asked to look into rebroadcasting the satellite
> broadcast of the "Telecon XIII Video Update" over the mbone.
> The program will run from 2-4 pm EST Jan 5, and will consist
> of highlights and summaries from the Telecon XIII conference.
> 
> This program looks like it might be of some interest to the
> people doing remote conferencing on the Internet, so I'd like
> to hear from anyone who has any comments or questions about
> whether an Internet multicast of the program is appropriate.
> 

Seems like this would be more interesting if it were available on videotape
(which it probably is, or will be, from the arrangers of Telecon XIII).


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Subject: SUMMARY: video digitizers for Suns
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I received a number of extremely useful answers, and would like to thank
all the people who responded.

Quick summary:

- The VideoPix board works fine without OpenWindows, and there are
  (unsupported) drivers available for SunOS 5.x.  It's cheap and not
  particularly fast or featureful, but for multicast use with nv works
  just fine.  [This is what I have recommended we purchase.]

- The new SunVideo board requires SunOS 5.x, but is faster.  (I have no
  other details on this one.)

- The Parallax XVideo board currently only runs under 4.x, but there will
  be a 5.x driver "eventually".  It's much more expensive than the
  VideoPix board, but it includes a 24-bit accelerated framebuffer.  This
  is overkill for our needs.

A couple people mentioned other boards, including one person from Xerox
PARC who said they'd wound up having to build their own(!).

Thanks to the following people for their comments:
nrd@lenti.med.umn.edu (Neal)
Vesa Ruokonen <Vesa.Ruokonen@lut.fi>
Grant Ward <gaward@dsto.gov.au>
Matt Crawford <crawdad@munin.fnal.gov>
Mikko Tsokkinen <mit@cs.tut.fi>
Steve Hopper <hopper@cs.ucsd.edu>
bryan@fegmania.wustl.edu (bryan o'connor)
Ian Johnson <ijj@inf.rl.ac.uk>
Stephen Casner <CASNER@ISI.EDU>
Larry Rowe <larry@bugs-bunny.CS.Berkeley.EDU>
Ron Frederick <frederic.PARC@xerox.com>

Detailed comments follow; I've tried to trim out most of the duplication.

===========================================================================
[ nrd@lenti.med.umn.edu ]
I am running videoPix software on 4.1.3 with a X server and the BrokenLook
Window manager.  So, you shouldn't need it (ol[v]wm) either.  You might
need the libraries, if they are dynamically linked.

I use the VideoPix, software vfctool.  It is terribly slow, but can save a
raster image.

===========================================================================
[ Grant Ward <gaward@dsto.gov.au> ]
VideoPix is slow compared to the new video stuff coming out (Indy,
J300, SunVideo), but if you are restricted to a Sun platform (ie you
have the machine already), then there is little in the way of options.
SunVideo will only be supported on Sol2.

===========================================================================
[ Matt Crawford <crawdad@munin.fnal.gov> ]
You don't need OW to run MBONE with the cheap VideoPix card.  You
just need OW to run the Sun apps that come with the driver.

===========================================================================
[ Steve Hopper <hopper@cs.ucsd.edu> ]
We have a SS2 with a VideoPix installed and are not running BrokenWindows
when using the card.  We mainly are a 4.1.3/X11R5/twm site.

===========================================================================
[ bryan@fegmania.wustl.edu (bryan o'connor) ]
I'm using the VideoPix board with Solaris 2.3.  The VideoPix 1.0
CD that comes with it doesn't support Solaris, but you can get the 
necessary drivers and such for it from playground.sun.com.

===========================================================================
[ Stephen Casner <CASNER@ISI.EDU> ]
Most people use the VideoPix card with nv.  That use does not require
OW.  There is no supported driver for Solaris, but there is one that
the Sun folks in NC have provided.

Support for the Parallax board in nv has also been developed recently,
though you don't really get any better performance in nv and it costs
a lot more.  Support for SunVideo is expected but still in the future.

===========================================================================
[ Larry Rowe <larry@bugs-bunny.CS.Berkeley.EDU> ]
You have your choice between the following:

(Note: almost all video/compression boards use a Phillips chip for video
capture.)

1. Sun's "nachos" board that uses CCubed programmable compression processors 
(I believe it is the CL4500).  They support proprietary CELL, JPEG, and
MPEG algorithms.  CELL compression is done in hardware (real-time on
200x200 images at 15 fps, with poor quality) and decompression is done 
in software.  Rumors are that decompression requires most of a Sparc10 CPU for 
200x200@15fps.  Big plus is that the board only costs $1.5K  Since mbone
software does it's own software compression/decompression, this is a
reasonable board for mbone experimentation.  Note: JPEG codec is slow on
large images and MPEG algorithm only supports decompression.

2. Parallax XVIDEO board uses CCubed JPEG chip (CL550).  The board is
actually a graphics framebuffer with optional compression daughterboard.
Current version uses 1 SBUS slot and retails for $5.5K.  A board without
the compression daughterboard would be appropriate for mbone
experimentation.  It costs $3K.

The XVIDEO board with compression gives significantly better video quality
because of the CCube chip.  You can capture high quality 320x240 
images@15-25fps depending on quality setting.  You can capture larger 
images (e.g., 640x480) but memory and backplane bandwidth limitations make 
it impossible to capture more than 10-12fps.

Parallax recently announced a version of this board that runs on HP Snakes.  I 
don't know pricing yet, but I believe it is being jointly marketed with HP.
(Contact info@parallax.com or 408-727-2220 for more information.)

3. IMS has boards similar to Parallax using the same chip set.  I am less
familiar with their product, but I talked to people at MM93 who ordered their
product and never received working boards.
(Contact imsinfo%thumper@src.honeywell.com for further information.)

4. Media Magic has a video and audio board for HP Snakes.  It supports JPEG
compression with 8- or 16-bit audio sampling rates between 6Khz - 48Khz
with 2 channels for stereo CD quality.  EISA bus board with 4MB onboard
buffer for video caching.  Retail price is $4.2K (12% educational discount
reduces this to $3.7K).
(Contact them at 214-669-3408 for more information.)

We have experimented with the Parallax board, the DEC JVIDEO board, and a
Rapid Technology board for the PC.  If you purchase a Parallax board, please 
join our Parallax mailing list by send email to 
parallax-request@plateau.cs.berkeley.edu with the word ADD in the body.

===========================================================================
[ Ron Frederick <frederic.PARC@xerox.com> ]
The current version of nv only works with the VideoPix card. There's a
"beta" version of the VideoPix driver code supplied by Sun for Solaris
2.x, and it seems to be compatible with nv. I believe you can find it on
playground.sun.com.

The next release of nv will also support the Parallax XVideo (and possibly
Power Video) card, but I really can't recommend spending the money on
it. For use with nv, the performance isn't much better than the VideoPix,
as reading pixels off of the frame buffer into many memory is very
slow. It does give you a 24-bit display, which is nice, but you pay dearly
for that.

The 'vfctool' program does act a bit funny on servers other than OpenWindows,
or with window managers other than olwm, but it can be made to work. The raw
driver has no X server dependencies, though, and programs like nv don't have a
problem.

Really, there aren't any good choices out there. We ended up building our own
video grabber card as a result. Unfortunately, we don't really have the
infrastructure to build & sell any significant number commercially. The
VideoPix is real slow, and has some other annoying characteristics (like
non-square pixels), but it's super cheap and will do the job at low frame
rates.
===========================================================================

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From: Dan Molinelli <moline@gumby.dsd.TRW.COM>


hi
i'm having problems getting Cornell's CU-SeeMe package
up and working with a reflector and the MBONE.

does anyone have examples.
i have CU-SeeMe running with VideoSpigot on a Mac IIci (129.193.72.59)
and start the reflector on a SPARC (129.193.72.144) with Mrouted and 
kernel IP Multicasting. i start the reflector with:
reflect -m 127 224.x.x.xx (or whatever the MBONE session i reserve for
video). i've also started reflect with the '-s', '-d' and '-c 129.193.72.59'
option for: reflect back, debug, and allow only those clients.
when i run reflect with debug, seems like everything is ok - i see
the video packets being received and the client is known - but
no announcement in 'nv'???

thanks in advance.

dan

p.s. i'm running nv 3.2 and CU-SeeMee .42

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Subject: Re: MBONE & CU-SeeMe

Hi Dan.

First, you have to tell nv to watch port 7650.  (The syntax is nv
<group> <port>, with spaces.)  That should get you going.

Second, for the time when you want to stop running with -s ... Keep in
mind that the reflector assumes a conference with multiple
participants, and the nv multicast is so the "rest of the world" can
watch a CU-SeeMe conference taking place.  If you only have one Mac
connected to reflector, the Mac isn't sending anything beyond a
keepalive (since as far as it knows there isn't anyone out there).
Therefore with only one Mac, all you'll get to watch in nv is a grey
window.  When you add a second Mac everything will fill in.  If you
want to

Two-way interaction between a reflector and nv is on the list, soon
after we convert to RTP.  The use of the reflector turns out to be less
of a weakness than I had thought, and is actually an interesting base
for experimentation.  Also a Winsock version is rolling along.

... Scott Brim



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Subject: Re: Telecon XIII Video Update
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> Seems like this would be more interesting if it were available on videotape
> (which it probably is, or will be, from the arrangers of Telecon XIII).

It is, or will be, for $100 according to the order form I saw.  There
is also a fee for satellite downlinks; the provision of the program
for retransmission over the MBONE free of charge is by special
arrangement.
							-- Steve
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Have been watching both the mbone and rem-conf lists for a while
hoping to see rs6000 availability announced.  However, I have decided
to ask.  Does anybody know of activity in getting the MBONE tools
(vat, nv, wb, ...) ported to the RS6K platform?

A summary of meaningful responses will be posted to the list after New
Year's, if it is in the positive and not already on the list. 

Thanks, Ken

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In message <199312171506.AA68579@dirac.scri.fsu.edu> you write:
> Have been watching both the mbone and rem-conf lists for a while
> hoping to see rs6000 availability announced.  However, I have decided
> to ask.  Does anybody know of activity in getting the MBONE tools
> (vat, nv, wb, ...) ported to the RS6K platform?
> 
Getting nv to compile on an RS6k turned out to require very few changes. The
next release should compile there for receive-only use as-is. If anyone has
video capture hardware for the RS6k and knows how to write code to talk to it,
I'd be happy to work on transmit support.
--
Ron Frederick
frederick@parc.xerox.com


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Org: Internet Multicasting Service


I'm getting many repeats of the following message in the window
that started a vat session:

 vat: send: Option not supported by protocol


Any suggestions?

Carl

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Subject: Re: vat: send: Option not supported by protocol
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 18 Dec 93 11:10:05 EST.
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 01:23:29 PST
From: Van Jacobson <van@ee.lbl.gov>

Carl,

Most everyone with an active Mbone Audio vat window was getting
these.  They were caused by a totally broken host somewhere in
the world sending an ICMP "Parameter Problem" datagram in
response to all multicast vat session packets.  For some
incomprehensible reason (perhaps known to Bill Joy but otherwise
lost in the mists of antiquity) the BSD networking code maps an
incoming ICMP packet with this error code into a ENOPROTOOPT
error on the socket that sent the datagram that caused the ICMP.

I've been home sick so I missed the period when this host was
active.  If this starts happening again, a quick "tcpdump icmp"
should identify the culprit.  If we then publish the name of the
host and of the vendor who failed to supply it with functioning
IP code, the problem might eventually fix itself.

 - Van

ps- v2.20 of vat, which should go out in the next hour or so,
    has been fixed to ignore these errors.

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Subject: new version of LBL whiteboard (wb v1.20) available
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 06:15:17 PST
From: Van Jacobson <van@ee.lbl.gov>

There's a new version of the LBL whiteboard tool available for
anonymous ftp from ftp.ee.lbl.gov in conferencing/wb/*-wb.tar.Z
(note that we've changed the directory structure: all the
conferencing tools are now in directory 'conferencing' and
there are subdirectories for vat, wb, sd and whatever else we
come up with).

In addition to the usual plethora of bug fixes, this version of
wb contains one user visible change:  a "Print" button has been
added that lets you print a wb page to a postscript printer or
save it as a postscript file.

Attached is the change history for this version.  Let us
know if it gives you any problems.

 - Van & Steve

------------------------------
v1.5[5-7], Mon Dec 20 03:26:01 PST 1993

 - Added "Print" button that saves current page contents as a
   postscript file that can either be saved to disk or piped to lpr.

 - Made more changes in postscript handling to try to accomodate
   broken postscript files (particularly the weird, non-conforming
   junk that FrameMaker produces):

    - set $brkpage to try to circumvent Framemaker's confused ideas
      on 'error recovery'.

    - added sigchld & sigpipe handlers so we can detect when bad ps
      causes gs to abort.

    - wasn't setting up DPS clippath after changing page layout so
      programs that queried clippath to get device imageable area got
      bogus numbers.

 - removed bogus packet source check that screwed up multi-homed
   hosts and kept Anders Klemets' wb playback tool from working.
   (bugs reported by Anders Klemets and Brad Parker).

 - fixed really stupid bug where characters were being drawn twice if
   page wasn't in portrait orientation.

 - ignore ENOPROTOOPT errors on network sends (bug reported by
   Carl Malamud).

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From: Van Jacobson <van@ee.lbl.gov>

There's a new version of vat available for anonymous ftp from
ftp.ee.lbl.gov in conferencing/vat/*-vat.tar.Z (note that we've
changed the directory structure: all the conferencing tools are
now in directory 'conferencing' and there are subdirectories for
vat, wb, sd and whatever else we come up with).  This version
is only bug fixes & should mainly interest people with Sparcstation-10s
and HP snakes.  A brand new, much improved vat should be available
in just a few days so don't bother with this one unless you have
time to burn.

Attached is the change history since the last release.

 - Van & Steve

-------------------------

v2.18-20beta, Thu Dec  9 18:45:17 PST 1993

- add support for both kinds of audio hardware on HP snakes (710's
  PSB2160 in addition to 715/735's CS4215).

- based on input from Steve Casner, tried to make Sparcstation-10
  audio a bit better:  Estimate & remove DC bias from input signals
  and reduce gain of mike signal slightly in hope that people will
  be able to run without turning on mike agc.

- "full duplex" mode got broken in last release.  It works again.
  (problem reported by Toerless Eckert)

- add support for external echo cancellers (-E flag & ExternalEchoCancel
  resource (suggestion from Steve Casner).

- add control of echo suppress deadtime (EchoSuppressTime X resource).
  changed way speakerphone modes do mute to use explicit deadtime
  rather than decay of mike's echo return signal.  (motivated by
  auditorium echo problems in "net mutes mike" mode reported by
  Ron Frederick and Mitch Collingsworth)

- fix way gains are initialized so we set gain on right port (now
  done in abox rather than in main). (problem reported by Steve
  Casner)

- fix bug in 'p' printout (printing input port names rather than
  output port names in output gain resource).  (problem reported
  by Steve Casner)

- make SuppressNewSites X resource match name in cbox (changed
  from "SuppressAll").  Make SuppressNew variable match name in cbox.
  (problem reported by George Michaelson)

- Change the way the 'inactive' timeout is computed so sites running
  a compression much lower than the conference's (e.g., lpc4 in a
  pcm conference) don't flicker between gray and black.

- Lots of changes to support hpux & hp's audio model.

- add support for audio input via Unix domain socket rather than
  /dev/audio ("-U sockname" flag).

- ignore ENOPROTOOPT errors on network sends (bug reported by
  Carl Malamud).

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From: Don.Hoffman@Eng.Sun.COM (Don Hoffman)
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To: rem-conf@es.net
Subject: Advance notice of MBONE multicast - Global Information Infrastructures
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We will be relaying the broacast described below on to MBONE on 1/11,
8:30am-10:00am PST.  Please let me know if this will conflict with
other uses of MBONE at that time.  Also, we are evaluating the
feasibility and mechanisms for allowing questions to the interviewees
from MBONE, in addition to the usual phoned-in and email questions.
More details will be sent closer to air-time.

This program will also be available on satellite transponder.  Please
let me know if you are intereted in accessing the broadcast via
satellite.

To anticipate the question, the content of this program is
vendor-neutral, and Sun products will not be discussed.

Thanks,
Don Hoffman 
email - hoffman@sun.com, phone - +415-336-4339, fax - +415-336-6035

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	       SUNERGY - LIVE INTERACTIVE SATELLITE BROADCAST #8
			       January 11, 1994
			    8:30 - 10:00 am (PST)

		     "Global Information Infrastructures"

In the last Sunergy broadcast the topic of the Internet was discussed.
During that program we took a look at some of the ways that the 
Internet acts as both supplier and retriever of information, 
internationally.  We also discussed US government policy and security
issues.

Sunergy #8 will take an even *closer* look into the building
of a global information highway.

Topics/issues covered will include:

	- Interoperability and standards
	- What critical factors stand in the way (or are yet
	  to be resolved)?
	- How will the building of an NII (National Information
	  Infrastructure) in the United States affect the rest of
          the world?
	- What are the "real world" uses of an information highway?
        - What will be the "look" of this highway?

 
Guests:
John Gage (HOST) - Director of the Science Office, Sun Microsystems

Vinton Cerf - Vice President, Corporation for National Research Initiatives
              President, Internet Society

Dr. Eric Schmidt - President, Sun Technology Enterprises

Geoffrey Baehr - Chief Technical Officer, SunConnect

If you have satellite receive capabilities and would like the 
satellite coordinates email the Sunergy Office at sunergy@sun.com.

Also, include any specific topics or issues you would like to see 
covered in this broadcast.



##########################   GUEST BIOGRAPHIES  ########################


Dr. Eric E. Schmidt - President, Sun Technology Enterprises, Inc.
                      Corporate Executive Officer, Sun Microsystems, Inc.


Dr. Schmidt heads a subsidiary of Sun Microsystems, Inc. that includes 
several independent business units. Sun Technology Enterprises Inc. is 
made up of SunConnect, which handles network connectivity and network 
management products; SunPics, for printing and imaging products; 
SunPro, for software developer tools; SunSelect, for products that 
integrate UNIX with personal computers; and SunSolutions, for 
distributed workgroup applications.

Dr. Schmidt joined Sun in June 1983 as manager of software and moved 
to director of software engineering before his appointment as 
vice president and general manager of the Software Products 
Division in May 1985. He was promoted to vice president of the 
General Systems Group in May 1988 and assumed his current 
position in February 1991.

Prior to joining Sun, Dr. Schmidt was a member of the research 
staff at the Computer Science Lab at Xerox Palo Alto Research Center 
(PARC), where he developed release tools for the Cedar programming 
environment project. He also held positions at Bell Laboratories 
and Zilog.

Dr. Schmidt has a B.S. in electrical engineering from Princeton University, 
and an M.S. in electrical engineering and a Ph.D. in computer science 
from the University of California at Berkeley.

		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

VINTON G. CERF is currently Vice President of the Corporation for
National Research Initiatives, where he has managed the Digital Library,
Electronic Mail, and Internet research programs since 1986.  
From 1982 to 1986, Dr. Cerf worked at MCI Communications, where he 
developed MCI Mail.  He worked at the Defense Advanced Research 
Projects Agency from 1976 to 1982, where he led the packet 
communications, internetting and security efforts and served as 
principal scientist in the Information Processing Techniques Office.  
At Stanford University, from 1972 to 1976, he taught electrical 
engineering and computer science, and coinvented the TCP/IP protocol 
suite.  At UCLA, from 1967 to 1972, he managed the Network Measurement 
Center and helped develop the host protocols for the ARPANET.  
At IBM he performed systems engineering on the QUIKTRAN time-sharing 
system.

Dr. Cerf is a member of the Association for Computing Machinery 
(ACM), and has served as chairman of LA-SIGART (1968), 
chairman of SIGCOMM (1987-1991), and a member of the ACM Council 
(1991-1992).  He was elected a Fellow of the IEEE in 1988, and 
received the Koji Kobayashi Award in 1992.  Dr. Cerf served as a
 member of the Internet Architecture Board from 1986 to 1989, and
 as its chairman from 1989 to 1992.  He is a coorganizer of the 
Internet Society, and was elected its president in 1992.  Dr. Cerf 
has served on numerous national and international committees and 
commissions, technical advisory boards and boards of charitable 
organizations.  With his wife, Sigrid, he works on a Shakespeare 
video-captioning project, and in his copious spare time enjoys 
science fiction, gourmet cooking, and the collection and consumption
of fine wines.  Dr. Cerf received a BS in Mathematics in 1965 from 
Stanford University, and his MS (1970) and PhD (1972) in Computer 
Science from UCLA.

 		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 John Gage 
 Director, Science Office
 Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation

 John Gage works for Bill Joy, the Chief Technical Officer of
 Sun, and is responsible for Sun's relationships with the world
 scientific and public policy communities, international scientific
 institutions and groups developing new forms of scientific research
 involving computing.

 He is on scientific and advisory panels of the United States 
 National Science Foundation, the US Congress Office of Technology
 Assessment, the European Institute of Technology and the United
 States National Academy of Sciences. He has recently been appointed
 to the US National Research Council Mathematical Sciences Education
 Board.

 He is a member of ACM, IEEE, SIAM, AMS, AAAS, and SMPTE.

 He attended the Harvard Business School and the Harvard Graduate
 School of Public Policy.  He did doctoral work in economics and 
 mathematics at the University of Berkeley at the same time as 
 Bill Joy.  Gage subsequently left Berkeley with Joy to start 
 Sun in 1982.

 Gage is on the Board of Directors of Unicode, an industry consortium
 of IBM, Microsoft, Apple, Novell, Sun, GO Corporation, and others to 
 provide multilingual capability in all world scripts for all 
 documents and applications. 

                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Geoffrey Baehr - Chief Technical Officer, SunConnect
(Biography to be added in next announcement)











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To: Van Jacobson <van@ee.lbl.gov>
Cc: Carl Malamud <carl@trystero.malamud.com>, rem-conf@es.net
Subject: Re: vat: send: Option not supported by protocol
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 20 Dec 93 01:23:29 PST." <9312200923.AA18470@rx7.ee.lbl.gov>
X-Face: -*.ZYbFWa}{2c8NmF|<GeP{<7S!dmJ]xK<sSs,1i#Y*B$kZYR'iytK\i:+bod5P#kW.h:5v 
        !,!b{xd@[$(;&MqckdZ\yvIa+C!lEH*_rxjR)HZ"~2Rm60s/kbU+42$"lL,}yoo3}DflaaBrqwVJ4T 
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 14:17:04 -0500
From: William C Fenner <fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil>

> If this starts happening again, a quick "tcpdump icmp"
> should identify the culprit.  If we then publish the name of the
> host and of the vendor who failed to supply it with functioning
> IP code, the problem might eventually fix itself.

I managed to capture an ICMP:

625.19    78 icmp     tc6.msc.edu herman.cmf.nrl.      param problem
0C 00 FA 56 02 00 00 00 45 00 00 4C 0E EC 00 00         ...V....E..L....
B5 11 88 DF 86 CF 07 03 E0 02 00 01 04 F4 0D 81         ................
00 38 E4 FB                                             .8..

Assuming that the pointer counts from zero, this is pointing at a problem with 
the length field of the original packet.

  Bill


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Subject: Re: vat: send: Option not supported by protocol
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X-Face: -*.ZYbFWa}{2c8NmF|<GeP{<7S!dmJ]xK<sSs,1i#Y*B$kZYR'iytK\i:+bod5P#kW.h:5v 
        !,!b{xd@[$(;&MqckdZ\yvIa+C!lEH*_rxjR)HZ"~2Rm60s/kbU+42$"lL,}yoo3}DflaaBrqwVJ4T 
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 14:18:54 -0500
From: William C Fenner <fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil>

Immediately after sending that message, I got another one, this one from 
tc1.msc.edu .  Once again, the pointer field was 02 .

1046.80    78 icmp     tc1.msc.edu herman.cmf.nrl.      param problem
0C 00 FA 56 02 00 00 00 45 00 00 4C 2D 1E 00 00         ...V....E..L-...
B5 11 6A AD 86 CF 07 03 E0 02 00 01 04 F4 0D 81         ..j.............
00 38 E4 FB                                             .8..

  Bill


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Hi,
 
 Can you please include me in the mailing list of MBONE major events. Thanx.

-Asher
azia@caip.rutgers.edu

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I got quite a bit of positive response to the proposed Telecon XIII
Video Update multicast, so MCNC will be broadcasting the program
over the Mbone on Jan. 5. Look for the sd session early next year.
Thanks to everyone who responded.

	Tim Seaver
	MCNC - CONCERT Network

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Org: Internet Multicasting Service

A temporary fiber loss ... we're back up with the VEEP.

Nothing like live events!

Carl

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From: "David M. Meyer 503/346-1747" <meyer@cambium.uoregon.edu>
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To: rem-conf@es.net, mbone@isi.edu
Subject: Unsupported Solaris 2.x libvfc.a (videopix) library problem?


	I was wondering if anyone has ever had the vfc_destroy in
	the libvfc.a from playground.sun.com work correctly. It
	would appear to me that it always fails with

	vfc_destroy : free(2) of VfcDev struct failed: Error 0

	which, among other things, causes subsequent vfc_open(s)
	to fail. Has anyone else seen this? 

	Also, does anyone know if there is someone at Sun that
	might know about this? 


	Thanks and happy holidays,


	Dave

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