From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 01 22:53:30 1995 Received: from realtime.cc.missouri.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 19:52:54 -0800 Received: (from ccshag@localhost) by realtime.cc.missouri.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id VAA14425; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:52:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:52:43 -0600 (CST) From: Paul 'Shag' Walmsley X-Sender: ccshag@realtime.cc.missouri.edu To: rem-conf@es.net cc: MU Multicast Transmission Group , MUBONE Engineering Discussion Subject: Mid-Missouri Computer Art and Animation Festival Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We intend to multicast this festival on November 5, 1995 0100-0500 GMT, although it will probably be shorter than that. As the MBONE appears to be relatively quiet during this time, we intend to use one 160kb/s nv RTPv1 channel and one 78kb/s pcm channel. The audio will be on 224.2.229.1, port 60604/id 8879, and the video will be on 224.2.179.105, port 53213. As always, we will stand by for reception and congestion comments at , and we'll be prepared to lower our bandwidth usage if we run into a serious conflict. Hope to see you there. - The MU Multicast Transmission Group --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Third Annual Mid-Missouri Computer Art and Animation Festival will take place on Saturday, November 4, 1995. The festival showcases the finest computer generated images and animations from area artists. It will be held this year in Townsend Auditorium in the College of Education of the University of Missouri-Columbia, and will be multicast over the MBONE. Doors open at 7PM CST and the festival will start at 8PM CST. The show will feature both a slide-show display of stills and an animation gallery. Please direct any questions via e-mail to: festival@coe.missouri.edu or see the Web page at: Sponsored by the Student Art Educators Association at the University of Missouri-Columbia. From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 02 01:42:38 1995 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:42:11 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA17622; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:42:09 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA25017; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:40:21 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19925; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:40:20 EST Message-Id: <9511020640.AA19925@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 2D03FE0F675D0D0D8525626800224008; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:40:18 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 2 Nov 95 1:19:35 EDT Subject: Next H.323 audioconference 2 Nov, 11:00 Boston time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: We'll be meeting again tomorrow at 11:00 am Boston (east coast) time. Do note that the US set its clocks _back_ one hour last Sunday. TOPIC Review H.323 progress at last week's SG15 Rapporteur's meeting in Japan + discuss topics of timely interest to the document's editors, Gary Thom and Dale Skran. DETAILS All are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. (Note that the Boston clocks fell back one hour on 29 Oct.) Conferences currently scheduled are: Thursday, 2 Nov, +1-303-633-1026, reservation #1384245 Thursday, 16 Nov, +1-212-346-0359, reservation #1384246 These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 02 10:23:44 1995 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 07:21:29 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA22070; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:21:27 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA08374; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:19:38 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25762; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:19:37 EST Message-Id: <9511021519.AA25762@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 6367E1653C9F3B5D852562680053A22E; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:19:36 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 2 Nov 95 10:16:47 EDT Subject: URGENT: NEW CALL IN NUMBER re: Next H.323 audioconference 2 Nov, 11:00 Boston time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: You'll need to call a different port number for today's call at 11am, Boston time: +1-212-346-0373, conference ID #1414552 I wanted to get more ports available for today's call, and to do so the call in number had to be changed. (Those not aware of this change will be told the new number by an operator, so we will not "lose" anyone.) Apologies for the last minute change, -rich ===== To: imtc @ world.std.com @ smtp cc: h32z2-list @ mtgbcs.mt.att.com @ smtp, rem-conf @ es.net @ smtp From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 11/02/95 01:19:35 AM Subject: Next H.323 audioconference 2 Nov, 11:00 Boston time Hi folks: We'll be meeting again tomorrow at 11:00 am Boston (east coast) time. Do note that the US set its clocks _back_ one hour last Sunday. TOPIC Review H.323 progress at last week's SG15 Rapporteur's meeting in Japan + discuss topics of timely interest to the document's editors, Gary Thom and Dale Skran. DETAILS All are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. (Note that the Boston clocks fell back one hour on 29 Oct.) Conferences currently scheduled are: Thursday, 2 Nov, +1-303-633-1026, reservation #1384245 Thursday, 16 Nov, +1-212-346-0359, reservation #1384246 These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 02 12:02:11 1995 Received: from bordeaux.nijenrode.nl by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:01:44 -0800 Received: from bordeaux.nijenrode.nl (steven@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bordeaux.nijenrode.nl (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA13568; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:01:38 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199511021701.SAA13568@bordeaux.nijenrode.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: mbone@isi.edu, rem-conf@es.net Subject: Broadcast of the Hewlett-Packard conference: 'Managing the Unmanagable'. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 18:01:37 +0100 From: Steven Hessing Thursday, November 30th 1995, the Hewlett-Packard conference: Industrial Round Table: `Managing the Unmanagable' will take place at Nijenrode University. We would like to broadcast this conference over the Mbone. We hope the broadcast will not conflict with any other planned broadcasts. We've entered our broadcast into the agenda's on: http://www.cilea.it/MBone/agenda.html http://www.msri.org/mbone/ The broadcast will take place on 30 Nov 95 from 12:00 GMT until 19:00 GMT. Information about the conference can be found on http://www.nijenrode.nl/conference/ The schedule for the conference (all times in GMT): MANAGING THE UNMANAGEABLE November, 30th 1995 - Nijenrode University "The future organization will have a home base, to be sure, but few, if any of its staff or managers will actually be there". One day soon, everybody will have a personal phone, a personal mobile computer and work will not belong to a certain place. Management will learn to handle and manage those whom they do not see. Like it or not, the mixture of economics and technology will mean that more of us will be spending time in this virtual space. Will this vision become reality? Will the virtual organization take off? How will it be managed? How will the teams be motivated? What will it mean to the leadership? What new skills will be called for? If notions of space and distance diasppear, everybody has access to unlimited information, the world will be shaped by globalization and information. Will this lead to chaos and order? How do we manage the unmanageable? THE PARTICIPANTS His Excellency Dr. Hans Wijers, Minister of Economic Affairs Keynote speaker Professor Nicholas Negroponte, Director of MIT's Media Laboratory Keynote speaker Karel van Miert, Member of the European Commission Member of the Panel Alex Sozonoff, Vice President Hewlett-Packard Company Member of the Panel Ben Verwayen, President PTT Telecom, Member of the Board of Royal PTT Nederland N.V. Member of the Panel Steve Ballmer, Executive Vice President Microsoft Corporation Participating via video conferencing Dr. Vinton G. Cerf, Senior Vice President Data Architecture Data Services MCI Telecommunications, Co-developer of the Internet Participating via video conferencing 12.30 Arrival of guests at Nijenrode University 13.00 Welcome and introductions by Mrs. Neelie Kroes, President of Nijenrode University and Mr. Hans van der Velde, Managing Director of Hewlett-Packard Nederland B.V. 13.10 Keynote address by His Excellency Dr. Hans Wijers 13.40 Keynote address by Professor Nicholas Negroponte 14.20 Tea Break 14.45 Panel discussion Moderator: Michiel Bicker Caarten Participants: - Peter Booone - Professor Stephane Garelli - Karel van Miert - Prefessor Nicholas Negroponte - Alex Sozonoff - Ben Verwayen 16.15 Video conferencing with: - Steve Ballmer - Dr. Vinton Cerf 17.00 Cocktails 18.00 End of program -- Steven From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 02 13:31:51 1995 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:31:24 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA24676; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:31:22 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA15555; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:29:34 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00769; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:29:32 EST Message-Id: <9511021829.AA00769@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 42D355EC2F8EE9D78525626800644982; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:29:30 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 2 Nov 95 13:27:29 EDT Subject: New H.323 audioconference 9 Nov, 11:00 Boston time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: During today's meeting we decided to add another audioconference call for next week, 9 Nov, and to cancel the one previously scheduled for 16 Nov, since it conflicts with the SG15 meeting in Geneva. Also, the H.323 group plans to meet in Ipswich, United Kingdom, from 16-19 Jan 96, with the goal of finalizing the text for "decision" in May. So we also added two more audiocalls prior to that event, on 4 and 11 Jan 96. So, here's the current lineup: Thursday, 9 Nov, +1-212-346-0364, reservation #1384246 Thursday, 16 Nov -- no meeting (SG15) Thursday, 23 Nov -- no meeting (SG15) Thursday, 30 Nov, +1-212-346-0388, reservation #1414603 Thursday, 14 Dec -- tentative mtg -- +1-212-346-0381, reservation #1414604 Thursday, 4 Jan, +1-212-346-0434, reservation #1415644 Thursday, 11 Jan, +1-212-346-0415, reservation #1415645 All audioconferences are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. The initial topic for next week's call is the Q.931 proposal put forward by Dale Skran and posted two days ago to the reflector. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 02 21:29:10 1995 Received: from dectcp.cineca.it by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:28:35 -0800 Received: by dectcp.cineca.it (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA26538; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:28:20 +0100 Return-Path: Received: by CE.UniPR.IT (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23832; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:27:40 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:27:40 +0100 From: broggi@verdi.eng.unipr.it (Alberto Broggi) Message-Id: <9511030227.AA23832@CE.UniPR.IT> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Final CFP: Real-Time Imaging J. Dear colleague: this reminder has been automatically sent to different mailing lists; should you receive multiple copies of it, please excuse. ============================================================================== CALL FOR PAPERS JOURNAL OF REAL-TIME IMAGING Academic Press Special Issue on Special-Purpose Architectures for Real-Time Imaging Nowadays, a number of different problems are solved through image processing techniques (e.g. industrial inspection, robot guidance, unmanned vehicles,..., to cite only a few examples). The problem of processing images in real-time has been generally addressed and solved through the use of high-performance computer systems, developed ad-hoc to meet the specific requirements of the applications. Serial or parallel architectures have been enhanced through the addition of various bus systems, interprocessor communication networks, and other features explicitly designed to face the hard constraints imposed by real-time processing, such as I/O (data acquisition and output), data communications among processors (in multi-processor systems),... A number of different special-purpose architectures for image analysis have been proposed and developed, but seldom the presentation focuses on the discussion of both the hard real-time requirements (applications) and the hardware solutions which have been chosen (computer architectures). The TOPICS of this Special Issue include, but are not limited to: * Design of application-specific VLSI architectures; * Performance analysis and comparison among different architectural solutions; * Hardware mapping of parallel algorithms; * VLSI architectures for HDTV and image compression; * Hardware support for multimedia systems; * Vision-based real-time robot and vehicle navigation; * Massively parallel architectures for low-level vision; * Hardware neural solutions; * Experience on highly demanding vision applications. Prospective authors are encouraged to submit papers with a strong emphasis on the match between the application requirements and the chosen architectural solutions, detailing the ad-hoc hardware enhancements. Papers should describe systems which have been designed for a specific target application or which have proved to be particularly suited for a given task. MANUSCRIPT SUBMISSION: * Authors should send 5 copies of their full paper (about 15 double-spaced pages) to: Alberto BROGGI Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione Viale delle Scienze University of Parma I-43100 Parma, Italy indicating their full postal address and e-mail address. Electronic or fax submissions will *NOT* be considered. * The closing date for submission is *DECEMBER 10th, 1995*. * Publication is tentatively expected to take place in MID 1996. * The final call-for-papers and up-to-date information can be obtained via WWW at: http://WWW.CE.UniPR.IT/rti-final Accepted manuscripts will need to comply with all author guidelines of Journal of Real-Time Imaging, available upon request from broggi@CE.UniPR.IT or from jrti@rtlab12.njit.edu. GUEST EDITORS: Alberto BROGGI Francesco GREGORETTI Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione Dip. di Elettronica Viale delle Scienze Corso Duca degli Abruzzi University of Parma Polytechnic of Turin I-43100 Parma, Italy I-10129 Turin, Italy Phone: +39-521-905707 Phone: +39-11-5644081 Fax: +39-521-905723 Fax: +39-11-5644099 E-Mail: broggi@CE.UniPR.IT E-Mail: gregor@PoliTO.IT From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 02 22:51:01 1995 Received: from mail2.digital.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 19:50:36 -0800 Received: from bitski.pa.dec.com by mail2.digital.com; (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA02950; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 19:19:38 -0800 Received: by bitski.pa.dec.com; id AA04042; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 19:19:37 -0800 Message-Id: <9511030319.AA04042@bitski.pa.dec.com> To: rem-conf@es.net Cc: redell@pa.dec.com Subject: ACM Multimedia '95 Conference on MBone Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 19:19:37 -0800 From: redell@pa.dec.com X-Mts: smtp Here is the current planned schedule for the MBone feed we intend to send >from the ACM Multimedia '95 conference in San Francisco next week. (All times are Pacific Standard Time.) This is consistent with my October 4 posting to rem-conf, and with the entries I placed in both MBone schedules on the Web: http://www.cilea.it/MBone/agenda.html http://www.msri.org:80/mbone/ For more detailed descriptions of the various sessions, see the conference Web site: http://acm.org/MM95/ Dave Redell DEC Systems Research Center redell@pa.dec.com ------ Planned MM95 Transmission Schedule ---------------------------------- Tuesday, November 7 9:00am - 10:30am Opening Plenary 11:00am - 12:30pm 2P: Policy Issues in Devp of Digital Media 2:00pm - 3:00pm 3A: Cyber Communities 4:00pm - 5:30pm 4P: Multimedia on a Shoestring Wednesday, November 8 8:00am - 9:00am testing: MBone VCR (Wieland Holfelder, ICSI) 9:00am - 9:30am 5D Demo: MBone VCR 11:00am - 12:30pm 6A: Multimedia Network Tools 2:00pm - 3:30pm 7A: Video and Image Collections 4:00am - 5:30pm 8A: Multimedia Networking 7:00pm - 10:00pm Demo: MBone VCR Thursday November 9 9:00am - 10:30am 9B: Synchronization... it's about Time 11:00am - 12:30pm 10P: Broadband Data Services to the Home 2:00pm - 3:00pm Award paper session 3:30pm - 5:00pm Closing Plenary Dave From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Nov 03 10:21:55 1995 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:21:22 -0800 Received: from sol.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:20:01 +0000 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: A UK-only multicast Date: Fri, 03 Nov 95 15:19:59 +0000 From: Roy Bennett The Joint Information Systems Committee (JISC) of the HEFCs (Higher Education Funding Councils), funds a number of national information services and initiatives which benefit the higher education and research community in the UK. On Wednesday, 8th November, 1995 the Projects funded by JISC under the New Technologies Initiative will take part in a colloquium to be held at the University of Aston, Birmingham. An interim report on the NTI is available at URL http://info.mcc.ac.uk/NTI/Interim/Contents.html EMMA, one of these projects, will multicast the proceedings between 10:15 and 15:30 UTC with a "UK-only" ttl and at relatively high bandwidth to make use of the capacity available on the UK Mbone which runs over the SuperJANET education & research network. (http://www.ukerna.ac.uk/SuperJANET/SuperJANET.html) An entry has been placed in the Mbone Global Agenda (http://www.cilea.it/MBone/agenda.html) and in sd as "NTI Colloquium, Aston University" I apologise to those unable to receive this multicast. We look forward to the day when network capacity is no longer a problem in multimedia conferencing ...... Roy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Roy Bennett EMMA - Enhanced Multicast for Multimedia Applications Computer Science Phone: +44 171 380 7934 University College London Fax: +44 171 387 1397 Gower Street, LONDON WC1E 6BT Email: rbennett@cs.ucl.ac.uk ---------- URL http://www-dept.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/R.Bennett ------------ MICE Multimedia Integrated Conferencing Support Centre, England mice-nsc-england@cs.ucl.ac.uk http://www-mice-nsc.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mice-nsc/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Nov 03 22:03:07 1995 Received: from paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:02:41 -0800 Received: (alicef@localhost) by paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.10/8.1B) id TAA12674; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:02:38 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:02:38 -0800 From: Alice Ford Message-Id: <199511040302.TAA12674@paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: allcsdiv@cs, rem-conf@es.net Subject: Multi Media Seminar 11/8 Murat Kunt: Dynamic coding Cc: alicef@paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU Multimedia and Graphics Seminar (Wed November 8, 1995 12:30-2:00 PDT 405 Soda Hall) Dynamic coding for image and image sequence compression Murat Kunt Swiss Federal Institute of Technology - Lausanne (EPFL) One of the major features in real world images and image sequences is the "non stationnary" behaviour of the signal. Data representing visual information in one area of an image have different characteristics than those representing another area of the same image. To take these variations into account, compression techniques need to be as adaptve as possible. It turns out that, a single method with the best possible adaptivity cannot perform as well as a team of methods each giving its best for the most appropriate part of the picture. In the dynamic coding concept, several segmentation methods are used in parallel to obtain image segments. The ultimate goal in segmentation is to obtain segments that represents real objects present in the scene (or part of these objects). Since there is no a unique segmentation method performing very well in all situations, these results needs to be "merged" in a collaborative way to yield the final result. Dynamic coding is then an effective competition between several compresion techniques for representing image data segments in the most efficient way. The image data is represented as the union of several regions, each approximated by a representation model most appropriate for this region. Data concerning a region is stored and/or transmitted along with its compression algorithm or its index if the receiver has the same toolbok. Dynamic coding offers attractive features such as genericity, flexibility and openness. It is a fairly general scheme which may be used in many situations. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/298 for further information. The seminar will be broadcast on the Internet MBONE starting at 12:40. The Fujitsu Seminar room (405 Soda) has approximately 30 seats. Folks at Berkeley might want to attend the seminar by watching it on your workstation, if you can receive MBONE transmissions. Due to problems at Berkeley, this seminar will not be available over the BAGNet. We hope to have the problems resolved in time for next weeks presentation. From rem-conf-request@es.net Sat Nov 04 08:07:56 1995 Received: from mailsun.aber.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 05:07:11 -0800 Received: from pcbici.ott.aber.ac.uk by mailsun.aber.ac.uk with SMTP (XTPPst-c); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:06:59 +0000 Received: by pcbici.ott.aber.ac.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BAAAB6.A8161820@pcbici.ott.aber.ac.uk>; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:08:38 -0000 Message-ID: <01BAAAB6.A8161820@pcbici.ott.aber.ac.uk> From: Rehan S Alibux To: "'rem-conf@es.net'" Subject: VIC for MS-Windows Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:08:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As part of a final-year undergraduate Computer Science project, I am making an attempt to try and port/write a very primitive version of VIC (the UNIX video conferencing tool using multicasts) for the MS-Windows environment. As I understand it, there exists source for VIC. However, there are some relatively big chunks of the code that assume the X window system. These will have to be abstracted out to work with MS-Windows, which I feel may be beyond the scope of this project, since it ends in March 1996. I would appreciate ANY advice, tips, hints (maybe algorithms!) on how to approach the problem. Even very generalised help would be more than appreciated. If there is anyone who is contemplating or is currently involved in such a project, please let me know how you are getting along. Thanks in advance, Rehan S Alibux -| Computer Science Year 3 -| Computer Science Department -| University of Wales, at Aberystwyth -| e-mail : rsa2@aber.ac.uk From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Nov 05 09:39:38 1995 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 06:38:12 -0800 Received: from waffle.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:37:25 +0000 To: Rehan S Alibux cc: "'rem-conf@es.net'" Subject: Re: VIC for MS-Windows In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Nov 95 13:08:37 GMT." <01BAAAB6.A8161820@pcbici.ott.aber.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 95 14:37:25 +0000 Message-ID: <2066.815582245@cs.ucl.ac.uk> From: Jon Crowcroft >As part of a final-year undergraduate Computer Science project, I am >making an attempt to try and port/write a very primitive version of >VIC (the UNIX video conferencing tool using multicasts) for the >MS-Windows environment. >As I understand it, there exists source for VIC. However, there are >some relatively big chunks of the code that assume the X window >system. These will have to be abstracted out to work with MS-Windows, >which I feel may be beyond the scope of this project, since it ends >in March 1996. >I would appreciate ANY advice, tips, hints (maybe algorithms!) on how >to approach the problem. Even very generalised help would be more >than appreciated. >If there is anyone who is contemplating or is currently involved in such >a project, please let me know how you are getting along. Rehan please contact Dimitris Terzis here (d.terzis@cs.ucl.ac.uk) see also message i sent on approach below... jon (Message mbone:1495) Return-Path: Received: from sics.se by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with Internet SMTP id ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 17:42:37 +0100 Received: by sics.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/SICS-1.4) id AA13889; Fri, 6 Oct 95 17:39:01 +0100 Received: from venera.isi.edu by sics.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/SICS-1.4) with SMTP id AA13883; Fri, 6 Oct 95 17:38:58 +0100 Received: by venera.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-22) id ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:38:50 -0700 Received: from quark.isi.edu by venera.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-22) id ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:38:49 -0700 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by quark.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-20) id ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:38:21 -0700 Received: from sol.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 17:35:47 +0100 To: fred@cisco.com (Fred Baker) Cc: mbone@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: VAT/VIC/NV/WB/SD for Win95 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 06 Oct 95 09:00:25 PDT." Date: Fri, 06 Oct 95 17:35:47 +0100 Message-Id: <11346.812997347@cs.ucl.ac.uk> From: Jon Crowcroft >My guess is that it's not the bandwidth they'd worry about. If you want >Win95 versions of these, I'd suggest that you convince Van and company to >spin off a Windows development shop and fund their research with it. the mbone tools are all releatively simple in terms of their API requirements GUI and Video output: most require tcl/tk, some require raw X a couple need both Windows and MAC equivalents are either trivial, or easy... Network: they require multicast sockets winsock (e.g. FTP s/ws or trumpet or the latest microsoft) all do this very very close to the yway bsd ("deering") sockets work Video Input ivs, nv and vic have an abstraction for the idea of a framegrabber already - to retro fit the video for windows abstraction should be relatively simple... Video Output - see above... Audio i/o this is either hte most tricky or the easiest depending your point of view. Most assume 8 bit PCM samples, though some just assume a read of x bytes gives you at most x bytes, and that the application knows the sample rate/size so may be able to use this as a clock too... Finally, the tricky bit: Timers and Tasking Some use select based wait loops to schedule their i/o. while some use the read completion on a synchronous input sample (e.g. audio above)...and yet others use real timer events (poor accuracy - e.g. sigalrm but some versions of Un*x do have reasonable itimer granularity...) Some use 1 task and mux/demux the multiple audio/video etc streams, others spawn a child per input stream...... of course, they are all mono-media tools (except ivs) so if you don't have some decent taskig (though cooperative multitasking like MACs or Windows 3 may just be enough - in fact ,the lack of preemtpiton in them may make some aspects of things easier!) Interstream Synchrionisation - as far as i know, we are the only people so far t try synching audio/video are LBL and us....we do it in a way that is compatibvle wih windows 3 tasking as far as i can tell....so it should be straightforward i'm waiting for a C and C++ compiler and the net to get good enuff so i can ftp the tcl/tk release for windows, and a book on how to get at audio under windows 3.... jon p.s. you could of course just also run solaris on you intel processor of course, or linux if you are more anarchistically inclined... but for the great unwashed M*soft users, we feel we ought to enlgihten their mbone access somehow... From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Nov 05 16:24:43 1995 Received: from danpost.uni-c.dk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:24:00 -0800 Received: from ithost1.it.dtu.dk (ithost1.it.dtu.dk [130.225.77.131]) by danpost.uni-c.dk (8.6.4/8.6) with ESMTP id WAA03960 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 22:23:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199511052123.WAA03960@danpost.uni-c.dk> Received: by ithost1.it.dtu.dk (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA110526634; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 22:23:54 +0100 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 22:23:54 +0100 From: COST237 workshop To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Final program of COST 237 Workshop Enclosed, please find the program of the second COST 237 Workshop Teleservices and Multimedia Communications to be held in Copenhagen, Denmark in November 20-22. For further information please contact the organiser: E-mail: workshop@it.dtu.dk Fax : +45 4593 0355 or visit the homepage at URL: http://www.it.dtu.dk/~workshop I apologise if you are receiving multiple copies of this message since my mailing list is constructed from multiple different sources. Please distribute to colleges. Villy B. Iversen (vbi@it.dtu.dk) ************************************************************ Where and when ============== The tutorial and workshop takes place at The Technical University of Denmark (DTU), which is located 12 km north of central Copenhagen. Monday 20: Tutorials from 10.00-16.00 (final program available at http://www.it.dtu.dk/~workshop). Reception at Resturant Casiopeia at the Tycho Brahe Planetarium (next to Hotel Sheraton) at 18.00-19.00. Tuesday 21: Workshop, see below. Banquet at 19.00. Wednesday Workshop, see below. On November 23-24 there will be a COST 237 Meeting at the same venue. ************************************************************ PROGRAM ======= Tuesday: -------- 8.00-9.00: Registration 9.00-9.30: Session: Opening Chair: V. B. Iversen, Technical University of Denmark * Knut Conradsen, Vicerector of Technical University of Denmark * Andre Danthine, Chairman of COST 237 * David Hutchison, Chairman of Program Committee 9.30-10.30: Session: Invited Keynote Speech Chair: Andre Danthine, University of Liege, Belgium * The Multimedia in the ACTS program. Augusto Albuquerque, DG XIII. 10.30-11.00: Coffee break 11.00-12.30: Session: Multipeer Communications Chair: Georgio Ventre, Universita di Napoli Federico II, Italy * Group Support in Multimedia Communications Systems. A. Mauthe & G. Coulson & D. Hutchison & S. Namuye, Lancaster University, United Kingdom. * Object-Oriented Framework for a Scalable Multicast Call Modelling. M.I. Smirnov, GMD Fokus, Berlin, Germany. * M-Connection Service: A Multicast Service for Distributed Multimedia Applications. J.F. de Rezende & S. Fdida, Laboratoire MASI, Paris, France & A. Mauthe & D. Hutchison, Lancaster University, United Kingdom. 12.30-13.30: Lunch 13.30-14.30: Session: Invited paper Chair: * DAVIC Activities and the Multimedia Applications. Giovanni Venuti, CSELT, Torino Italy. 14.30-15.00: Coffee Break 15.00-16.30: Session: Teleservices and Applications Support Chair: * GLASS: A Distributed MHEG-Based Multimedia System. H. Cossmann & C. Griwodz & G. Grassel & M. Phulhofer & M. Schreiber & R. Steinmetz & H. Wittig & L. Wolf, IBM European Networking Center, Heidelberg, Germany. * Performance Evaluation of the CSCW Application JVTOS. E. Klovning, Telenor Research and Development, Kjeller, Norway & O. Bonaventure, Universite de Liege, Belgium. * Multimedia Teleservices Modelled with the OSI Application Layer Structure. E. van Rijssen, Logica, The Netherlands & I. Widya & E. Michiels, University of Twente, The Netherlands. 19.00: Banquet Wednesday: ---------- 9.00-10.30: Session: Broadband Network and Transport Services Chair: Serge Fdida, Laboratoire MASI, Paris, France * Service Definition of a Multimedia Partial Order Connection. C. Chassot & M. Fournier & M. Diaz & A. Lozes, LAAS du CNRS, Toulouse, France. * Network Support for Multimedia Communications Using Distributed Media Scaling. F. Toutain & L. Toutain, ENST de Bretagne Antenne de Rennes, Cesson-Sevigne, France. * The ACCOPI Multimedia Transport Service over ATM. L. Mathy & O. Bonaventure, University of Liege, Belgium. 10.30-11.00: Coffee break 11.00-12.30: Session: QoS Assurance Chair: David Hutchison, Lancaster University, United Kingdom * Towards a Hybrid Scheme for Application Adaptivity. H.S. Cho & M.R. Fry & A. Seneviratne & V. Witana, University of Technology, Sydney, Australia. * Admission Control for End-to-End Distributed Bindings. L. Leboucher & J.-B. Stefani, CNET, Paris, France. * An Enhanced Admission Control Scheme for Deterministic and Predictive Services. W. Reinhardt & D. Trossen, Technical University of Aachen, Germany. 12.30-13.30: Lunch 13.30-15.00: Session: Multimedia Support Chair: Helmut Leopold, Alcatel Austria, Vienna, Austria * Equitable Conditional Access and Copyright Protection for Image Based on Trusted Third Parties. J.-M. Boucqueau & S. Lacroix & B. Macq & J.-J. Quisquater, Universite Catholique de Louvain, Belgium. * Designing Point to Point Interactive Video Applications. M. Hamdi & H. Afifi & P. Rolin & L.M. Rojas, Telecom Bretagne, Cesson-Sevigne, France. * RIVUS: A Stream Template Language for Capturing Multimedia Requirements. D. Lindsey & P.F. Linington, University of Kent, United Kingdom. 15.00-15.30: Coffee Break 15.30-16.30: Session: Internet and Multimedia Contributions can be obtained on the internet at URL http://www.it.dtu.dk/~workshop ************************************************************ Accommodation ============= Reserved hotels: Block reservations have been made at the following hotels: Palace Hotel Raadhuspladsen 57 DK-Copenhagen V Tel: +45 3314 4050 Fax: +45 3314 5279 Price: DKK 645/night (single), DKK 900/night (double) Sheraton Hotel Vestersogade 6, POB 337 DK-1601 Copenhagen V Tel: +45 3314 3535 Fax: +45 3332 1223 Price: DKK 600/night (single), DKK 920/night (double) Reservations should be made through the organisers, while payment should be directly to the hotels. Both Hotels are located in the centre of Copenhagen. A bus transportation between the hotels and DTU will be organised. For participants of the COST 237 meeting (Thursday & Friday) Palace Hotel is recommended. ************************************************************ Registration fee ================ A registration fee applies for the participation in the workshop (3 days) and includes access to all sessions, proceedings, lunch for the three days, refreshment during the breaks and access to the welcome reception and banquet. The fees are: Registration by 11/11 after 11/11 Normal fees : DKK 2200 DKK 2500 Reduced fees : DKK 1800 DKK 2100 The reduced workshop fee is granted to Program Committee members, authors of submitted papers, reviewers, Steering Committee members and Ph.D. students. Payment should be made by bank transfer to: Den Danske Bank DTU DK-2800 Lyngby Denmark Account no.: 42 - 63 97 20 07 Bank-Code : 95 - 149 - 31 - 35 66 ************************************************************ Registration form ================= Please return this form to: Villy B. Iversen Institute of Telecommunication DK-2800 Lyngby Fax: +45 4593 0355 Email: workshop@it.dtu.dk Registration is only effective when payment is received. ------------------------------------------------------------ Family Name: Given Name(s): Title: Company: Address: Country: Telephone: Fax: E-mail: Participation ------------- o Conference (2 days) o Tutorial and Conference (3 days) Hotel ----- Please indicate your choice: o Palace Hotel arr. date dep. date o Sheraton Hotel arr. date dep. date o My own arrangement Please indicate if you require a double room. Participation fee ----------------- A Participation fee of DKK _______ has been transfered to Den Danske Bank ************************************************************ From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Nov 05 18:52:27 1995 Received: from simon.cs.cornell.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:51:38 -0800 Received: from cloyd.cs.cornell.edu (CLOYD.CS.CORNELL.EDU [128.84.227.15]) by simon.cs.cornell.edu (8.6.10/R1.4) with ESMTP id SAA11096 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 18:51:35 -0500 Received: from skadi.cs.cornell.edu (SKADI.CS.CORNELL.EDU [128.84.254.219]) by cloyd.cs.cornell.edu (8.6.10/M1.8) with ESMTP id SAA16075 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 18:51:33 -0500 From: Tsuneshi Hashimoto Received: (hashi@localhost) by skadi.cs.cornell.edu (8.6.10/C1.3) id SAA06372; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 18:51:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 18:51:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199511052351.SAA06372@skadi.cs.cornell.edu> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Nov 06 12:11:59 1995 Received: from central.napier.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:10:44 -0800 Received: (from mm15@localhost) by central.napier.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.10) id KAA08908; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:52:05 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:52:05 GMT Message-Id: <199511061052.KAA08908@central.napier.ac.uk> From: Mike Yeh Subject: Re: VIC for MS-Windows To: Rehan S Alibux , rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: Rehan S Alibux's message of Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:08:37 -0000 Organisation: Napier University > > If there is anyone who is contemplating or is currently involved in such > a project, please let me know how you are getting along. > > Thanks in advance, > > Rehan S Alibux > > -| Computer Science Year 3 > -| Computer Science Department > -| University of Wales, at Aberystwyth > -| e-mail : rsa2@aber.ac.uk > > Here we have developed a videoconferencing on Win95. It works great with MS Win95's multimedia and winsock subsystem, rate from 1 to 30 fps. My opinion to your question is, the work you have to will much depend on your experiences about windows programming for multimedia! In particular you find no example from market. However we have some template if you are interesting, also, I would like to point out that you should contact Microsoft to get a free copy of "JumpStart CD" in which contains much of the information you need. Cheers Mike PC Videoconferencing Developer From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Nov 06 23:08:30 1995 Received: from ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 20:08:00 -0800 Received: by ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com (5.61/1.15) id AA17927; Mon, 6 Nov 95 20:22:56 -0800 Received: by ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (5.65b(em1)/2.06) id AA02475; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:47:08 -0800 Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com (5.61/1.15) id AA17660; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:58:37 -0800 Received: from trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07877; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:41:35 PST Received: by trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10) id TAA07560; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 19:41:31 -0800 From: Your VE info source Message-Id: <9511061941.ZM7558@trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 19:41:30 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: rem-conf%es.net@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com Subject: Latest InfoBahn Calls for Participation ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The following are some of the latest Infobahn Calls for Participation: --> Computer Animation '96 --> Call for Participation: Call Date: 1 December 95 --> 3rd Eurographics Workshop on Virtual Environments --> Call for Participation: Call Date: 20 November 95 --> CHI '96 Workshop on Psychological Issues of Virtual Environment Interfaces --> Call for Participation: Call Date: 16 Feb 96 --> "Internet 2001" IEEE Computer Society Press Call for Papers (for a special topic book) IEEE Computer Companion Issue Call for Papers --> Call Date: 8 January 1996 --> A tenure track position in Computer Science specializing in VR! --> See job ad at back for position at NPS. **************************************************** * Computer Animation '96 * * Geneva, Switzerland * * June 3-5, 1996 * **************************************************** The Computer Graphics Society (CGS) is pleased to announce COMPUTER ANIMATION'96 in Geneva. This eighth conference on Computer Animation is organized jointly by the University of Geneva, the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and CGS. Call for Papers --------------- Contributions are solicited describing original research results and applications experience to the following areas of computer animation: - Paint systems - Animation for scientific visualization - Motion control - Animation in engineering - Keyframe animation - Motion blur and temporal antialiasing - Path planning - A.I.-based animation - Mechanics-based animation - Robotics and animation - Synthetic actors - Virtual reality - Image rendering in animation - Autonomous characters - Animation languages/systems - Sound and speech synchronization - Behavioral animation - Special hardware for animation - Artificial Life - Recording techniques Four copies of full papers in English are due December 1, 1995. Authors will be notified by January 10, 1996. Camera-ready papers are due by February 10, 1996. All accepted papers will appear in a book published by IEEE Computer Society Press. Conference cochairs: Nadia Magnenat Thalmann, Daniel Thalmann (Switzerland) Program Committee: Norman Badler (USA), Tat-Seng Chua (Singapore), Michael Cohen (USA), David Haumann (USA), Tosiyasu L. Kunii (Japan), Gavin Miller (USA), Nadia Magnenat Thalmann (Switzerland), Fred Parke (USA), Alex Pentland (USA), Larry Rosenblum (USA), Sung Yong Shin (Korea), Peter Stucki (Switzerland), Yasuhito Suenaga (Japan), Demetri Terzopoulos (Canada), Daniel Thalmann (Switzerland), Lance Williams (USA) Call for Computer-Generated Films --------------------------------- The Ninth Computer-Generated Film Festival of Geneva will contain a selection of outstanding computer graphic animation. Submit your latest work in computer animation by February 28, 1996. Selected films will be shown on public screening. Several awards including the Award of the City of Geneva will be decerned by an international panel of judges. Films should be submitted in video VHS or preferably UMATIC (PAL or NTSC) or Betacam (PAL only). Please include film credits and complete description of the work. Send papers, films and requests for information to: Professor Nadia Magnenat Thalmann MIRALab, CUI 24 rue du General-Dufour CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland tel: +41-22-705-7769 fax: +41-22-705-7780 Email: thalmann@cui.unige.ch ======================================================================== 3rd EUROGRAPHICS WORKSHOP on V I R T U A L E N V I R O N M E N T S Coexistence, Communication & Collaboration ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for contributions ----------------------------------------------------------------------- February 19-20th, 1996 Monte Carlo, Monaco AIMS AND SCOPE: --------------- The Eurographics Workshop on Virtual Environments has become an international forum of high quality for exchanging experience and knowledge between people representing the Virtual Reality (VR) / Virtual Environment (VE) communities. Following the initial Workshop on VEs in Barcelona (Sept.93) and the second in Monte Carlo (Jan.95), Eurographics is now organizing the third one which is going to take place together with the annual IMAGINA Conference. Virtual Environments are a significant step in Man Machine Communication. Easy-to-understand audio-visual presentations and intuitive interaction with computer generated worlds have been demonstrated and evaluated during the last years. Today, the World Wide Information Highways encourage experimentation in physically distributed but virtually shared virtual environments and application scenarios are showing up in training, assembly and medical research. The aim of this workshop is to provide a forum for a scientific and technical discussion on coexistence, communication and collaboration issues in shared Virtual Environments. The main topics of the workshop include: - real time rendering and simulation, - physical based modeling, - audio-visual effects and synchronization - haptic feedback, - navigation, interaction, cooperation, - synthetic actors and behaviour, - facial expressions, - guestures and languages, - interaction paradigms for collaboration, - system architecture, data consistency & interfaces, - distributed hw/sw systems and experience, - multi user experiments and acceptance, - telecommunication requirements and experience. CONTRIBUTIONS: ------------- Authors are invited to send an extended abstract (about 4-5 pages) to the workshop secretariat (see below for relevant deadlines). Abstracts submitted after the deadline will still be considered, but will have a lower priority for inclusion in the programme. SCHEDULE: --------- Nov 20th, 95: deadline for extended abstract Dec 10th, 95 notification of acceptance / draft programme Feb 10th, 96: full papers Feb 19-20th, 96: workshop VENUE and FEE: -------------- The workshop will be held in Monte Carlo together with the annual IMAGINA Conference and Exhibition (21-23 Feb. 1996, http://www.ina.fr/INA/Imagina/). Workshop participants may register to IMAGINA for reduced fee. Participation to the workshop will be limited to 60 persons to encourage discussion after each session and interaction between participants. Selection of participants will take place on the basis of extended abstracts reviewed by the programme committee. Participation without submitting an abstract may be possible based on an expression of interest (EOI). Full versions of all accepted papers will be published as EUROGRAPHICS Technical Report and distributed among the participants as workshop proceedings. It is also intended to publish the workshop proceedings. Invitations to submit a revised version of the full papers will depend on the quality of the distribution. Attendance fees will cover the meeting facilities, coffee breaks and the workshop proceedings. The fee will be about 180 ECU for EG members and 250 ECU for non-EG members. INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMME COMMITTEE: ---------------------------------- Peter Astheimer (DE) Frank Bagiana (NL) Jean Francis Balaguer (CH) Klaus-Peter Beier (US) Massimo Bergamasco (IT) David Boyd (UK) Steve Bryson (US) Lennart Fahlen (SE) Monika Fleischmann (DE) Micheal Gervautz (AT) Simon Gibbs (DE) Michitaka Hirose (JP) Bob Jacobson (US) Hans Jense (NL) Heedong Ko (KR) Bowen Loftin (US) Junji Nomura (JP) Xavier Pueyo (ES) Philippe Queau (FR) Mel Slater (UK) Jose Teixeira (PT) Danile Thalmann (CH) Rolf Ziegler (DE) WORKSHOP CoCHAIRPERSONS ----------------------- Jaques David (FR), Martin Goebel (DE) SEND EXTENDED ABSTRACTS (preferably by email) to ------------------------------------------------ MARTIN GOEBEL Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics (IGD) The Virtual Reality Demonstration Centre Wilhelminenstr. 7 D-64283 Darmstadt +49 6151 155-450; fax: +49 6151 155-199 email: goebel@igd.fhg.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PARTICIPATION CHI'96 Workshop on Psychological Issues of Virtual Environment Interfaces April 14 & 15, 1996 ( Submission deadline February 16, 1996 ) Organizers: Casey Boyd, University of Colorado, Boulder Rudy Darken, Naval Research Laboratory This workshop provides a common ground for the diverse research on the psychology of virtual environments (VEs). It encompasses an intersection of 1) psychological issues, 2) designing and evaluating for usability, and 3) VE interfaces. The central questions are: What are the components - of human, task, and system - that are relevant to usability and how are their roles understood? Topics include: o spatial orientation and wayfinding in VEs, o designing VEs to leverage on human perceptual abilities, o affordances for navigating and acting in VEs, o designing the controlling inputs to take advantage of human physical abilities and adapt to disabilities, o evaluating 3D interfaces, experiences with usability testing of whole systems, o the interdependence between task features and interfaces. We invite the participation of researchers and practitioners whose work is on these topics (though possibly not all working directly with VE systems), from perspectives including Computer Science, Cognitive Psychology, Perceptual and Ecological Psychology, Urban Planning and Architecture, and Industrial Engineering. Interested persons should submit a short (2-4 page) position statement describing their research or practice experiences related to the topic and the contribution they would make to the workshop, and a brief description of their background, including past experience with CHI and other workshops. Participants will be chosen on the basis of the relevance of their research, quality of their proposal, and balance of approaches. Submissions must be received by February 16. Participants will be notified by March 11. This two-day workshop is limited to 15 participants. The registration fee is $100. For more information about the workshop, see: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~cboyd/chi96/workshop.html ( For more information about CHI'96, see: http://www.acm.org/sigchi/chi96/ ) Contact: or: Casey Boyd Rudy Darken, Code 5707 Dept. of Computer Science, CB 430 Naval Research Laboratory University of Colorado 4555 Overlook Ave. SW Boulder, CO 80309-0430 USA Washington, D.C. 20375 E-mail: cboyd@cs.colorado.edu Email: darken@enews.nrl.navy.mil Phone: +1-303-492-4800 Fax: +1-303-492-2844 ************* "INTERNET 2001" CALL FOR PAPERS ********************************* *** CALL FOR PAPERS *** Book: IEEE COMPUTER SOCIETY PRESS Focus Issue: IEEE COMPUTER MAGAZINE [Internet 2001] Editors: Don Brutzman, Mike Macedonia and Mike Zyda Advisors: Steve Deering and Ted Lewis Computer Science Department, Naval Postgraduate School Monterey California 93943-5000 USA 408.656.2149/401.453.6363/408.656.2903 voice, 408.656.3679 fax brutzman@nps.navy.mil, mmacedon@crcg.edu, zyda@trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil Internet 2001 will be the theme of the August 1996 issue of IEEE COMPUTER and a companion IEEE Computer Society Press book. Internet 2001 will provide a comprehensive forward-looking overview of the rapidly evolving global network of networks. Many articles and books currently discuss the current state of the Internet. None describe the Internet at the turn of the century. This special issue and book will provide a road map to the future, showing where everything is going and the likely paths to get there. In the special focus issue of IEEE COMPUTER we expect to print two to three dozen single page extended abstracts, each focused on a single area of interest identified in the accompanying table. Simultaneously we plan to edit and publish full-length versions of submitted papers in a companion book through the IEEE Computer Society Press. The review process is likely to be highly competitive. We hope to attract papers of the highest caliber which present crucial concepts and defining issues. We expect this reference to enjoy wide distribution and provide value for years to come. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Internet Size, Connectivity, Bandwidth and Access o Who pays, who controls, who can connect, who can't o Topology and network management, local and global o Ubiquitous computing, distributed systems, latency o Digital convergence: computer networking, cable television, telephony o Satellite coverage, new technologies, perceived limits to growth o Connecting everyone to everything * Routing and Protocols o Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) and beyond o Low-level protocols, new transmission media o Wireless networks o Multicast o Entity/Application-Layer communication protocols o High performance networking: B-ISDN, ATM, SONET, etc. * Information Content and Context: the World-Wide Web (WWW) o HyperText Markup Language (html) o HyperText Transfer Protocol (http) o Virtual Reality Modeling Language (vrml) o Global databases and digital libraries o Electronic publishing, content indexing, searching * Applications in Cyberspace o Agents and Artificial Intelligence (AI) o Cooperative workspaces o Information appliances, robots, teleoperation o Virtual environments (VEs) * Commerce o Paying money over the network o Entertainment o Enterprise networking o Virtual corporations o Information economies * Security, Privacy and Authentication o Encryption and Digital Signatures o Hacking and cracking: individual and global vulnerabilities * Global and National Information Infrastructure o Internationalization and connecting the third world o Education and distance learning o Conduct of scientific research o Governmental and social change, democratization and empowerment o Public health and medicine * Standards and Internet Development o Professional societies and standards organizations o Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authors are asked to identify driving forces, key bottlenecks, notable failures and open challenges in specific subject areas. Each article will be organized to describe one aspect of the present-day Internet, where we want it to be in the year 2001, and how we might get there. Perceived limits to growth and the ability to scale up indefinitely are of particular interest. The deadline for papers is January 8, 1996. Referees are also encouraged to volunteer. Both short (1 magazine page, 900-1000 words) and long (6-8 manuscript pages, 3300-4400 words) versions of each paper must be submitted for review. Color figures will be accepted and reproduced as appropriate. For complete information and to submit papers, contact Don Brutzman (brutzman@nps.navy.mil), Mike Macedonia (mmacedon@crcg.edu) or Mike Zyda (zyda@trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil), Computer Science Department, Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey California 93943-5000 USA, 408.656.2149/401.453.6363/408.656.2903 voice, 408.656.3679 fax. Sage advice and adult supervision are provided by Steve Deering (deering@parc.xerox.com) and Ted Lewis (lewis@cs.nps.navy.mil). The IEEE COMPUTER Web page for author information is http://info.computer.org:80/pubs/computer/edguide.htm. Note that this style guide applies to the one-page summary version. We will put a pointer to the Computer Society Press style guide when it is online. Information on the next-generation Internet Protocol (IPng, IPv6) is available at http://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng/html/ipng-main.html This call for papers is at http://www.stl.nps.navy.mil/~brutzman/2001 We look forward to receiving your paper submission. Last update: 28 OCT 95 ****************************************************************************** Position in Computer Science at the Naval Postgraduate School The Computer Science Department invites applications for tenure-track faculty at all ranks. Applicants should have a Ph.D. in Computer Science or a closely related field and be committed to high-quality teaching and research. Of particular interest are the fields of Image Understanding, Computer Networks, Formal Methods in Software Engineering and Computer Graphics/Virtual Reality. Outstanding applicants in other research areas will also be considered. Senior applicants must have distinguished research records. Applicants for short-term faculty positions will also be considered. The Department consists of 29 full-time faculty and offers M.S. and Ph.D. degrees in Computer Science. Students are highly motivated military officers or civilian employees of the U.S. Department of Defense and allied countries, and are fully supported by their sponsoring organizations during their studies. The Department plays a very active role in DoD research in artificial intelligence/robotics, computer communications, computer graphics/virtual reality, computer security, computer systems/architecture, databases/ data engineering, parallel computing, and software engineering/real-time systems with a growing research budget that exceeded three million dollars in FY94. Departmental facilities (supported by ten full-time computer professionals) include seven research and instructional laboratories equipped with extensive state-of-the-art workstations including multi-processor SGI and Sun machines. The Computer Science Department has the inherent advantage of having an intimate relationship with military and governmental sponsors. In addition, NPS has industrial and non-government research sponsors. The School has easy access to Silicon Valley companies, and Monterey Peninsula area provides a pleasant coastal. climate. Send full resume and an abstract of a 45 minute talk to Prof. Yutaka Kanayama Chair, Faculty Search Committee, Computer Science Department, Code CS, Naval Postgraduate School Monterey, CA. 93943-5118 Telephone: 408-656-2449/2095 Fax: 408-656-2814 E-mail: kanayama@cs.nps.navy.mil The Naval Postgraduate School is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 07 01:43:24 1995 Received: from network2.cs.usm.my by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 22:42:43 -0800 Received: (from khnew@localhost) by network2.cs.usm.my (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00539; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:35:49 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:35:47 -0800 (GMT-0800) From: New Kok Hong To: rem-conf@es.net cc: videophone@es.net Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I had been try to unsubscribe from videophone and rem-conf by sending a unsubscribe message to videophone-request@es.net and rem-conf-request@es.net respectively! But until now (after a week, I still receive mail from this two mailing list. It had been a tough job to unsubscribe from this 2 mailing list! Thankx for any further guide! New Kok Hong khnew@network2.cs.usm.my http://network2.cs.usm.my/~khnew/ From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 07 06:45:36 1995 Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 03:44:41 -0800 Received: from tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:21:35 +0100 Received: from sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de (sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.6]) by tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA19500 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:20:27 +0100 From: Andreas Guther Received: by sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA20261; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:17:17 +0100 Message-Id: <9511071117.AA20261@sandmann.prz.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Multimedia Software MMC for HP Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:17:17 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: mmc-support@prz.tu-berlin.de To: rem-conf@es.net X-Mailer: fastmail [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] We like to present you the following information about a video conferencing system developped at our University in cooperation with Hewlett Packard: Technical University of Berlin and Hewlett Packard GmbH Germany proudly announce: The powerful Workstation-based Video Conferencing System MMC - Multi Media Collaboration on HP 9000 workstations (Beta Release) MMC offers: - a high quality personal Audio and Video Communication / Conference - the possibility to share all kinds of applications among different locations like CAD, CAM systems, Medical software, Graphical software, Word processing software and others - full online functionality between up to three on-line partners - usablility on Ethernet, FDDI and ATM - available on HP and compatible(*) with several other Workstation platforms o HP HP-UX 9.x o DEC alpha OSF 1 o SUN Solaris 1.x,2.x o PC Windows o Siemens SGI More information needed? Please feel free to send your request via e-mail or simply use our WWW page (see below). Please include your full mail and e-mail address. For more information contact WWW : http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/support-team/mail-mmc-info.html Phone: +30 314 26821 Fax : +30 314 21114 EMail: mmc-support@prz.tu-berlin.de --------------------- (*) not all platforms are 100% compatible yet, but will be in spring 1996 PLEASE NOTE: We do support MMC for Hewlett-Packard platform ONLY ! We are sorry that we cannot give detailed information about status of MMC for other platforms than HP. To get information about MMC for other platforms than HP please feel free to ask for contact addresses. From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 07 10:44:05 1995 Received: from hp1.online.apple.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 07:43:40 -0800 Received: by hp1.online.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA05216 for rem-conf@es.net; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 07:43:37 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 07:43:37 -0800 From: Davidwfox@eworld.com Message-ID: <951107074335_17997911@hp1.online.apple.com> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 07 13:33:17 1995 Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:32:14 -0800 Received: from afcoms.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch id AA01239; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:32:29 +0100 Received: by afcoms.cern.ch; (5.65/1.1.8.2/28Jul95-0949AM) id AA27155; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:32:10 +0100 Message-Id: <9511071832.AA27155@afcoms.cern.ch> Subject: CERN MBONE Announcement: next LHCC To: rem-conf@es.net (rem-conf Distribution List) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:32:10 +0100 (MET) From: Christian Isnard - CERN/CN/CS X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23 DXCOMS1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 555 CERN is pleased to announce the MBONE broadcast of the next LHCC (Large Hadron Collider Committee) open session. The LHC open session will be broadcast on Thursday 16th November 1995 from CERN Main Auditorium. The session will be advertised in sd session directory as "CERN LHCC". vat (audio) and nv (video) will be used with ttl 127. The detailed agenda will be given via a URL mentioned in the sd description text. In case of questions or problems about this broadcast please contact . -- Christian Isnard. From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 07 13:34:51 1995 Received: from mail.med.cornell.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:34:02 -0800 Received: from [140.251.155.200] (mac101385.med.cornell.edu [140.251.155.200]) by mail.med.cornell.edu (8.7/8.7/ech2.01) with SMTP id NAA09455 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:33:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:33:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net From: mwburne@mail.med.cornell.edu (Michael Burnett) Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE I know that this is not the proper way, however my messages to the listserve have not worked. Michael Burnett Cornell University Medical College From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 07 13:40:01 1995 Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:39:19 -0800 Received: from afcoms.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch id AA02171; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:39:32 +0100 Received: by afcoms.cern.ch; (5.65/1.1.8.2/28Jul95-0949AM) id AA27231; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:39:13 +0100 Message-Id: <9511071839.AA27231@afcoms.cern.ch> Subject: CERN MBONE Announcement: next ATLAS Plenary To: rem-conf@es.net (rem-conf Distribution List) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:39:13 +0100 (MET) From: Christian Isnard - CERN/CN/CS X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23 DXCOMS1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 631 CERN is pleased to announce the MBONE broadcast of the next ATLAS Plenary Meeting from CERN Main Auditorium, on Thursday 30th November, from 09:00 to around 18:00 (GMT+1) Friday 1st December, from 09:00 to around 13:00 (GMT+1) The session will be advertised in sd session directory as "CERN ATLAS". vat (audio) and nv (video) will be used with ttl 127. The detailed agenda will be given via a URL mentioned in the sd description text. In case of questions or problems about this broadcast please contact . -- Christian Isnard. From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 07 17:33:24 1995 Received: from icsia.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:32:19 -0800 Received: from icsib8.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (whd@icsib8.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.201.23]) by icsia.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/HUB+V8$Revision: 1.23 $) with ESMTP id OAA25645; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:32:18 -0800 From: whd@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Wieland Holfelder) Received: (whd@localhost) by icsib8.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/1.8) id OAA00545; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:32:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199511072232.OAA00545@icsib8.ICSI.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: ACM Multimedia Transmission To: mbone@isi.edu (Multicast Backbone), rem-conf@es.net (Remote Conferencing) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:32:15 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 671 We'd like to get some feedback on how the ACM MM95 audio/video feed on the MBone is received outside the conference's local net. If you have any comments, please send them either to the list, to whd@icsi.berkeley.edu or to redell@pa.dec.com. Thanks, -- Wieland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wieland Holfelder International Computer Science Institute Email: whd@icsi.berkeley.edu 1947 Center Street Suite 600 Fax : +1-510-642-6865 Berkeley, CA 94704-1198 Phone: +1-510-642-4274 Ext. 302 URL: http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/~whd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 07 21:00:50 1995 Received: from paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 18:00:16 -0800 Received: (alicef@localhost) by paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.10/8.1B) id SAA14377; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 18:00:11 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 18:00:11 -0800 From: Alice Ford Message-Id: <199511080200.SAA14377@paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: allcsdiv@cs, rem-conf@es.net Subject: Reminder Multimedia Seminar: Dynamic Coding for image and image sequence... Cc: alicef@paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU Multimedia and Graphics Seminar (Wed November 8, 1995 12:30-2:00 PDT 405 Soda Hall) Dynamic coding for image and image sequence compression Murat Kunt Swiss Federal Institute of Technology - Lausanne (EPFL) One of the major features in real world images and image sequences is the "non stationnary" behaviour of the signal. Data representing visual information in one area of an image have different characteristics than those representing another area of the same image. To take these variations into account, compression techniques need to be as adaptve as possible. It turns out that, a single method with the best possible adaptivity cannot perform as well as a team of methods each giving its best for the most appropriate part of the picture. In the dynamic coding concept, several segmentation methods are used in parallel to obtain image segments. The ultimate goal in segmentation is to obtain segments that represents real objects present in the scene (or part of these objects). Since there is no a unique segmentation method performing very well in all situations, these results needs to be "merged" in a collaborative way to yield the final result. Dynamic coding is then an effective competition between several compresion techniques for representing image data segments in the most efficient way. The image data is represented as the union of several regions, each approximated by a representation model most appropriate for this region. Data concerning a region is stored and/or transmitted along with its compression algorithm or its index if the receiver has the same toolbok. Dynamic coding offers attractive features such as genericity, flexibility and openness. It is a fairly general scheme which may be used in many situations. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/298 for further information. The seminar will be broadcast on the Internet MBONE starting at 12:40. The Fujitsu Seminar room (405 Soda) has approximately 30 seats. Folks at Berkeley might want to attend the seminar by watching it on your workstation, if you can receive MBONE transmissions. Due to problems at Berkeley, this seminar will not be available over the BAGNet. We hope to have the problems resolved in time for next weeks presentation. From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 08 11:58:55 1995 Received: from mailer.cefriel.it (actually ercole.cefriel.it) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:58:18 -0800 Received: from uno.cefriel.it by mailer.cefriel.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11146; Wed, 8 Nov 95 17:53:23+010 From: tomasson@mailer.cefriel.it (Franco Tomassoni) Message-Id: <9511081653.AA11146@mailer.cefriel.it> Subject: subscribe To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 17:56:22 +0100 (GMT+0100) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 21 Please subscribe me. From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 08 13:17:30 1995 Received: from hep.net (actually utah.hep.net) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:16:59 -0800 Received: from nhmxw0.fnal.gov by hep.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10437; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:16:52 -0600 Received: from nhmxw2.fnal.gov.fnal.gov by nhmxw0.fnal.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA08338; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:16:53 CST Date: Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:16:53 CST From: roediger@hep.net (Gary Roediger) Message-Id: <9511081816.AA08338@nhmxw0.fnal.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: vat and Sparc 5 We have a user with a Sparc 5 running Solaris 2.4. Apparently the audio problems with vat and Sparc 5 have not and are not being fixed by later releases of Solaris. Are there any fixes or workarounds for this? Gary From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 08 16:04:39 1995 Received: from plateau.cs.Berkeley.EDU (actually bugs-bunny.CS.Berkeley.EDU) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:03:50 -0800 Received: from bugs-bunny (drbacher@localhost) by plateau.cs.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.3) with ESMTP id NAA13793; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:03:49 -0800 From: Dave Bacher Message-Id: <199511082103.NAA13793@plateau.cs.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: UCB Multimedia Seminar Reply-To: drbacher@cs.berkeley.edu X-URL: http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/drbacher/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 13:03:48 -0800 The UC Berkeley Multimedia Seminar can be found at the following addresses: video: 224.2.219.29/59922 audio: 224.2.129.91/34301/60013//127 Sorry for the problems we've had this week -dave bacher From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 08 17:29:57 1995 Received: from viipuri.nersc.gov by osi-east.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:29:25 -0800 Received: by viipuri.nersc.gov (4.1/ESnet-1.2) id AA24147; Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:29:24 PST Date: Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:29:24 PST From: ari@es.net (Ari Ollikainen) Message-Id: <9511082229.AA24147@viipuri.nersc.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: More NetClutter: Shows on the 'net Reproduced without permission from: http://tecweb.cmp.com/ia/dailies/daily.htm#story1 Video goes live on the Internet Two vendors touting technology that can broadcast real-time video over the Internet are playing one-upsmanship by delivering video coverage of major industry trade shows over the Net. Next week, Xing Technology Corp., Arroyo Grande, Calif., and partners will broadcast video coverage of the entire Comdex trade show live over the Internet. Earlier this month, start-up VDOnet Corp. launched its competing video-over-the-Net technology at the Internet World trade show, including the delivery of keynote addresses and reports from the show floor. Although Net surfers have been able to download video clips over the Internet for some time, they were required to spend several minutes or more downloading large files, playing them back from their hard drives. With Xing and VDOnet, users click on a video link from their Web browser, which fires up the video player. Within seconds the video and synchronized audio begins playing back on-screen. And thanks to video compression technologies, even modem users running 14.4 kb/s modems can see the "Net-casts," albeit only at rates of several frames per second. Xing's StreamWorks technology was unveiled this summer. It uses software-based MPEG compression to deliver video and high-quality audio over Internet Protocol networks, including private networks and the Internet. Last month, Xing announced a new version of StreamWorks that can deliver video even to users with low-speed modems. A process called "thinning" narrows the video stream and sends only essential frames down to the user, said Howard Gordon, Xing president and CEO. This week, Xing will partner with Array Microsystems Inc, Los Gatos, Calif., Best Internet Communications, Mountain View, Calif., and Visitel Network, Las Vegas, to deliver around-the-clock, 120-hour video coverage of Comdex over the Internet. Beginning today, the coverage can be seen on the Web at http://www.comdextv.com . A Xing player--for Windows, Macintosh and Unix platforms--can be downloaded from http://www.xingtech.com . Separate integrated server/encoders are available for companies wanting to provide video content over the Internet, starting at $3,500 and ranging up to $50,000, depending on capacity. VDOnet, meanwhile, launched its VDOLive technology earlier this month. While Xing asks users to encode content to four different levels depending on the type of content they want to deliver -- 8.5 kb/s, 24 kb/s, 56 kb/s or 112 kb/s --VDOnet's difference is that it lets content providers deliver just one video source that can then be scaled on-the-fly to work over either high-speed or low-speed Net connections, said Asaf Mohr, VDOnet's president and CEO. "You get what the network gives you, the best video quality that your connection affords," said Mohr. "For content providers, this has huge business implications. They can encode content once" and deliver it over both large and small network pipes. VDOnet claims to be able to deliver between 10 to 15 frames per second over a 28.8 kb/s modem connection using its proprietary video compression algorithms, based in part on wavelet compression technology. VDOnet has a beta version of its player available on its Web site at http://www.vdolive.com . Although it has not officially announced them yet, the company also plans to deliver encoders and servers for delivering compressed video streams, Mohr said. -- Richard Karpinski ----------------------D--I--S--C--L--A--I--M--E--R-------------------------- NOTHING in this posting should be misconstrued to represent the view(s) and/or official position of the US Government, Department of Energy, University of California, LLNL, RECOM Technologies Inc. or of anyone else other than the undersigned who is not responsible for the accuracy nor wording of material quoted or otherwise extracted from press releases and/or vendors' product information. Mention of a specific vendor/product/service does not constitute endorsement. Ari@ES.net _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ Ari Ollikainen {VOX: 510 423-5962} _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Energy Sciences Network {FAX: 510 423-8744} _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ National Energy Research Supercomputer Center _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ MailStop L-561, PO BOX 5509, Livermore, CA. 94551 ~~RECOM Technologies Inc.~~ From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 08 19:41:24 1995 Received: from hres.arc.nasa.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:40:43 -0800 Received: by hres.arc.nasa.gov (940816.SGI.8.6.9/1.35) id NAA00932; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:09:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:09:03 -0800 From: garyp@hres.arc.nasa.gov (Gary Paden) Message-Id: <199511082109.NAA00932@hres.arc.nasa.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: NASA Shuttle Mission STS-74 We are planing an Mbone presentation November 11, 1995 - November 19, 1995. We will be using nv and vat. If this presentation conflicts with any previously scheduled broadcasts please contact me immediately. Gary Paden NASA Ames/Sterling garyp@hres.arc.nasa.gov (415)604-0082 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 08 22:36:30 1995 Received: from academ.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 19:35:59 -0800 Received: (from sob@localhost) by academ.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id VAA18611 for rem-conf@es.net; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:35:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511090335.VAA18611@academ.com> From: sob@academ.com (Stan Barber) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:35:54 CST X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Baker Institute Symposium Rice University's Baker Institute for Public Policy will be presenting its first annual symposium entitled "Foreign Policy Challenges at the End of the Century" on November 13 and 14. All sesssions will be presented live on the MBONE and via CU-SeeMe reflectors. This conference will For details, check the URL: http://riceinfo.rice.edu/baker95. -- Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob@academ.com Olan | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: {mcsun|amdahl}!academ!sob Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine. From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 08 22:55:00 1995 Received: from mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (actually fsb1.aist-nara.ac.jp) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 19:54:29 -0800 Received: from dec205 by mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.6.10+2.5Wb1/2.8Wb/NAIST-1.6[gate]) id MAA04941; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:54:01 +0900 Return-Path: Received: by dec205.aist-nara.ac.jp (5.65+1.6W/2.7W-AIST/1.3) id AA16543; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:53:57 GMT Message-Id: <9511090353.AA16543@dec205.aist-nara.ac.jp> To: garyp@hres.arc.nasa.gov Cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: NASA Shuttle Mission STS-74 Reply-To: sinji-t@is.aist-nara.ac.jp In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:09:03 -0800" References: <199511082109.NAA00932@hres.arc.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.00+ on Emacs 18.59.1, Mule 1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 12:53:57 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRFhMbhsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPzUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPCMbKEI=?= > We are planing an Mbone presentation > November 11, 1995 - November 19, 1995. > We will be using nv and vat. If this > presentation conflicts with any previously > scheduled broadcasts please contact me > immediately. > Our plan conflicts. ----forward messages. Received: from sh.wide.ad.jp by mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.6.10+2.5Wb1/2.8Wb/NAIST-1.6[gate]) id MAA08210; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:37:36 +0900 Received: from venera.isi.edu by sh.wide.ad.jp (8.6.11+2.5Wb2/6.0) with SMTP id MAA15817; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:26:22 +0900 Received: by venera.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-22) id ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 20:28:14 -0700 Received: from mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (fsb1.aist-nara.ac.jp) by venera.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-22) id ; Thu, 19 Oct 1995 20:27:49 -0700 Received: from dec300 by mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.6.10+2.5Wb1/2.8Wb/NAIST-1.6[gate]) id MAA07505; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:26:59 +0900 Received: by dec300.aist-nara.ac.jp (5.65+1.6W/2.7W-AIST/1.3) id AA06098; Fri, 20 Oct 95 12:26:55 GMT+0900 Message-Id: <9510200326.AA06098@dec300.aist-nara.ac.jp> To: mbone@ISI.EDU Cc: Apec-PT@pingu.kiis.or.jp Subject: Session announce ``ASIA PACIFIC MUSIC FESTIVAL'' Reply-To: sinji-t@is.aist-nara.ac.jp X-Mailer: Mew version 1.00+ on Emacs 18.59.1, Mule 1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:26:52 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRFhMbhsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPzUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPCMbKEI=?= Hi MBoner, welcome to Osaka, Japan, Asia. We are preparing to broadcast the following event, being held on November 14, 9:30 UCT. I'll announce about mbone session in detail later. ====================================================== It's so nice!! ASIA PACIFIC MUSIC FESTIVAL Presented by PANASONIC Don't miss this rare opportunity to see Asia's hottest international stars in one show! Scheduled to take place just before the Osaka APEC meeting, the Asia Pacific Music Festival,bringing together performers of several nationalities, will demonstrate the borderless nature of music. Now, if you can't make it to the concert hall of Osaka's Asia Pacific Trade Center on November 14, you can still catch the event's live broadcast on the Internet!! So remember to plug in on November 14, 18:30 (Japan time) for this extraordinary event. (http://www.apec.or.jp/ck/event/event.html) PERFORMERS LIST Dick Lee - Singapore L$B"+"*(BR - Japan Tracy Huang - Taiwan Shirly Kwan - Hong Kong Tamura Naomi - Japan ===================================================================== With kind regards. -- Shinji Tsubakino, E-mail: sinji-t@is.aist-nara.ac.jp // Graduate School of Information Science Nara Institute of Science and Technology, Japan // APEC(Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation)'95 Osaka Internet NOC. From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 09 07:46:27 1995 Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 04:45:51 -0800 Received: (from scott@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA24238; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 07:45:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 07:45:49 -0500 From: Scott Spetka Message-Id: <199511091245.HAA24238@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> To: garyp@hres.arc.nasa.gov, rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: NASA Shuttle Mission STS-74 I have an event scheduled for 12/11 10-2 EDT but would like to make it 9-12 instead. It is listed on the agenda. Scott Spetka SUNY Institute of Technology at Utica/Rome From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 09 07:53:47 1995 Received: from cythera.unb.ca by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 04:53:15 -0800 Received: from cythera.unb.ca (cythera.unb.ca [131.202.3.18]) by cythera.unb.ca (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA04742; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 08:49:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 08:49:38 -0400 (AST) From: "Dwight E. Spencer" To: Gary Roediger cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: vat and Sparc 5 In-Reply-To: <9511081816.AA08338@nhmxw0.fnal.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Gary Roediger wrote: > We have a user with a Sparc 5 running Solaris 2.4. Apparently the audio > problems with vat and Sparc 5 have not and are not being fixed by later > releases of Solaris. Are there any fixes or workarounds for this? > Gary You should try this patch (you may need to contact your vendor to get it): ====== eclipse:~/patches/102125-02$ more README.102125-02 Patch-ID# 102125-02 Keywords: audio looping hang audiocs cs4231 panic soundtool gaintool Synopsis: SunOS 5.4: Audio device driver jumbo patch [ - snip - ] Problem Description: 1182380 sample count incorrectly set on cs4231 1187814 when accessing to the audio driver, the ss5 panic 1164836 vat does not work on sparcstation 5 1186277 Using soundtool on SS5 running 2.3. After 1.02 seconds a click is heard.1187962 No audio output when running DOOM on SPARCStation 4 or SPARCstation 5.. 1183393 Can't Resume after Gaintool Pause on AudioTool file open ===== If Sun has no problems with end user distribution, I could give it to you, but, as always, I'm a bit fuzzy on the "rules" here. dwight. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dwight E. Spencer Canada's Community Access Network eMail: spencer@unb.ca, Server Administrator UNB, Fredericton, NB, Canada Phone: +1 506 447 3153 Url: http://cnet.unb.ca/cspace/staff/dspencer/ From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 09 08:54:56 1995 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 05:54:01 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA26705; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:53:56 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA20540; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:52:04 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15348; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:52:03 EST Message-Id: <9511091352.AA15348@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 42D355EC2F8EE9D78525626800644982; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:52:02 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 9 Nov 95 8:49:04 EDT Subject: H.323 audioconference today, 9 Nov, 11:00 Boston time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: Reminder: Here's the current lineup: Thursday, 9 Nov, +1-212-346-0364, reservation #1384246 Thursday, 16 Nov -- no meeting (SG15) Thursday, 23 Nov -- no meeting (SG15) Thursday, 30 Nov, +1-212-346-0388, reservation #1414603 Thursday, 14 Dec -- tentative mtg -- +1-212-346-0381, reservation #1414604 Thursday, 4 Jan, +1-212-346-0434, reservation #1415644 Thursday, 11 Jan, +1-212-346-0415, reservation #1415645 All audioconferences are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. The initial topic for today's call is the Q.931 proposal put forward by Dale Skran and posted last week to the reflector. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 09 18:34:01 1995 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:33:23 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA08514; Thu, 9 Nov 95 18:33:14 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA11860; Thu, 9 Nov 95 18:31:22 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02828; Thu, 9 Nov 95 18:31:21 EST Message-Id: <9511092331.AA02828@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 792E4F520610A9C08525626F00805916; Thu, 9 Nov 95 23:31:18 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 9 Nov 95 18:29:51 EDT Subject: Next H.323 audioconference, 30 Nov, 11:00 Boston time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: SG15 meets the next two weeks. Following that get together, we'll meet at the usual time on Thurs, 30 Nov. I have also set tentative meetings for 7 and 14 Dec, too. Here's the details: Thursday, 16 Nov -- no meeting (SG15) Thursday, 23 Nov -- no meeting (SG15) Thursday, 30 Nov, +1-212-346-0388, reservation #1414603 Thursday, 7 Dec, -- tentative mtg -- +1-212-346-6140, reservation #1425201 Thursday, 14 Dec -- tentative mtg -- +1-212-346-0381, reservation #1414604 Thursday, 4 Jan, +1-212-346-0434, reservation #1415644 Thursday, 11 Jan, +1-212-346-0415, reservation #1415645 All audioconferences are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. The initial topic for today's call is the Q.931 proposal put forward by Dale Skran and posted last week to the reflector. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Nov 10 11:49:18 1995 Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:48:25 -0800 Received: from afcoms.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch id AA26839; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:47:34 +0100 Received: by afcoms.cern.ch; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/28Jul95-0949AM) id AA09337; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:47:32 +0100 Message-Id: <9511101647.AA09337@afcoms.cern.ch> Subject: CERN LHCC announcement CANCELLED To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:47:32 +0100 (MET) From: Christian Isnard - CERN/CN/CS Cc: mbone@msri.org, webmaster@cilea.it X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23 DXCOMS1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 770 Since the next CERN LHC Committee will have no open session, the attached broadcast announcement is cancelled. -- Christian Isnard >------------------------- CANCELLED announcement: > > CERN is pleased to announce the MBONE broadcast of > the next LHCC (Large Hadron Collider Committee) open session. > > The LHC open session will be broadcast on Thursday 16th November 1995 from > CERN Main Auditorium. > > The session will be advertised in sd session directory as "CERN LHCC". > vat (audio) and nv (video) will be used with ttl 127. > > The detailed agenda will be given via a URL mentioned in the sd description > text. In case of questions or problems about this broadcast please contact > . > > -- > Christian Isnard. From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Nov 10 16:47:17 1995 Received: from hplms26.hpl.hp.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:46:27 -0800 Received: from hplabsz.hpl.hp.com by hplms26.hpl.hp.com with ESMTP ($Revision: 1.36.108.11 $/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1S) id AA247889974; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:46:15 -0800 Received: by hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA188599977; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:46:18 -0800 From: Laura de Leon Message-Id: <9511101346.ZM18857@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:46:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.0.0 15dec93) To: baylisa@baylisa.org, rem-conf@es.net, sage-members@usenix.org Subject: BayLISA: Berry Kercheval on ATM Cc: deleon@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 The BayLISA group meets monthly to discuss topics of interest to systems and network administrators. The meetings are free and open to the public. BayLISA holds monthly meetings on the third Thursday of each month at 7:30 PM PST. We meet at Synopsys Building C in Mountain View, California off Highway 237 at Middlefield. The meetings are also broadcast via MBONE. Schedule -------- November 16: Berry Kercheval, Xerox PARC, on ATM What is ATM? How does it work? Is it living up to its promise? Berry Kercheval will clear up the mysteries around ATM. Also: Come early for the annual board election and membership meeting December 21: Holiday meeting-- something out of the ordinary (Schedule subject to revision) For further information on BayLISA, check out our web site: http://www.baylisa.org/ To get further information on the meeting location, you can also ftp it from ftp.baylisa.org:/BayLISA/location or you can query the BayLISA mail server by cutting and pasting the following line to your shell: echo "index baylisa" | mail majordomo@baylisa.org BayLISA makes video tapes of the meetings available to members. For more information on available videos, please send email to: video@baylisa.org For any other information, please send email to: info@baylisa.org If you have any questions, please contact me or the info alias listed above. From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Nov 10 17:08:54 1995 Received: from viipuri.nersc.gov by osi-east.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:08:21 -0800 Received: by viipuri.nersc.gov (4.1/ESnet-1.2) id AA26399; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:08:20 PST Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:08:20 PST From: ari@es.net (Ari Ollikainen) Message-Id: <9511102208.AA26399@viipuri.nersc.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: VAT Reply-To: mb@hplb.hpl.hp.com Misaddressed message: ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From mb@hplb.hpl.hp.com Thu Nov 9 05:14:21 1995 From: Max Barber Subject: VAT To: rem-conf-request@es.net Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:14:09 GMT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85.2.1] Content-Length: 659 Hi I'm trying to run VAT between two HP 725 workstations to learn how to use it. My problem is that in one direction I find a 10sec delay and the audio is slowed to approx half speed, and in the other direction the audio is almost instant, but sounds like double speed. Thoughts on this anyone? regards max -- **** **************************************************************** ** /_ __ *** Max Barber Tel : +44 (0117) 9229363 * / / /_/ ** Network Technology Department Fax : +44 (0117) 9229286 ** / *** Hewlett Packard Laboratories EMail: mb@hplb.hpl.hp.com **** **************************************************************** ----- End Included Message ----- From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Nov 10 17:35:35 1995 Received: from pulm1.accessone.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:34:55 -0800 Received: from scoats.apptechsys.com by pulm1.accessone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27208; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:35:09 PST Received: from ats-nt.apptechsys.com by scoats.apptechsys.com id aa12350; 10 Nov 95 14:31 GMT Received: by ats-nt.apptechsys.com with NT SMTP Gateway ver 31 id <30A3D200@ats-nt.apptechsys.com>; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:28:16 P From: Fred Wurden To: 'MBone Mail List' Subject: FW:ACM 95 Multimedia Plenary broadcast Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:28:00 P Message-Id: <30A3D200@ats-nt.apptechsys.com> Encoding: 14 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Did anybody record it?? Date: Friday, November 10, 1995 1:15PM > Do you know of any sites where I could get the audio from Clifford > Stoll's ACM Multimedia 95 plenary speech? Nope -- sorry. You might ask on rem-conf whether anybody recorded it. Dave From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Nov 12 11:07:02 1995 Received: from mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (actually fsb1.aist-nara.ac.jp) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 12 Nov 1995 08:06:22 -0800 Received: from alpha211.aist-nara.ac.jp by mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.6.10+2.5Wb1/2.8Wb/NAIST-1.6[gate]) id BAA29968; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 01:06:15 +0900 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by alpha211.aist-nara.ac.jp (5.67+1.6W[kuis-17]/2.8Wb/NAIST-1.3[is]) id AA21735; Mon, 13 Nov 95 01:06:14 GMT+0900 Message-Id: <9511121606.AA21735@alpha211.aist-nara.ac.jp> To: mbone@ISI.EDU, rem-conf@es.net Cc: Apec-PT@pingu.kiis.or.jp, tuneki-k@is.aist-nara.ac.jp, taira@ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Session announce ``ASIA PACIFIC MUSIC FESTIVAL'' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:26:52 +0900" References: <9510200326.AA06098@dec300.aist-nara.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.00.4 on Emacs 18.59.1, Mule 1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 01:06:14 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRFhMbhsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPzUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPCMbKEI=?= We'll present this event to you as following. Session (with TTL=127) Video (nv,128kbps) from Asia Trading Center at Osaka, Japan Audio (dvi4,32kbps) Time-Table Live - "Asia Pacific Music Festival" from Nov. 14 18:30 JST (Nov. 14 9:30 UTC) > Hi MBoner, > welcome to Osaka, Japan, Asia. > > We are preparing to broadcast the following event, being held on > November 14, 9:30 UCT. I'll announce about mbone session in detail > later. > > > ====================================================== It's so nice!! > ASIA PACIFIC MUSIC FESTIVAL > Presented by PANASONIC > > Don't miss this rare opportunity to see Asia's hottest international > stars in one show! Scheduled to take place just before the Osaka APEC > meeting, the Asia Pacific Music Festival,bringing together performers > of several nationalities, will demonstrate the borderless nature of > music. Now, if you can't make it to the concert hall of Osaka's Asia > Pacific Trade Center on November 14, you can still catch the event's > live broadcast on the Internet!! So remember to plug in on November > 14, 18:30 (Japan time) for this extraordinary event. > (http://www.apec.or.jp/ck/event/event.html) > > > PERFORMERS LIST > > Dick Lee - Singapore > > L$B"+"*(BR - Japan > > Tracy Huang - Taiwan > > Shirly Kwan - Hong Kong > > Tamura Naomi - Japan > ===================================================================== > > -- Shinji Tsubakino, E-mail: sinji-t@is.aist-nara.ac.jp // Graduate School of Information Science Nara Institute of Science and Technology, Japan // APEC(Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation)'95 Osaka Internet NOC. From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Nov 13 11:56:06 1995 Received: from cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 08:55:26 -0800 Received: (from lucia@localhost) by cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00248 for rem-conf@es.net; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:05:31 +0100 Message-Id: <199511131605.RAA00248@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> Subject: transmit only option To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:05:31 +0100 (MET) From: Lucia Gradinariu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 697 Hi, I need to start some nv applications in send only mode to an IP multicast address. They are running on DECAlphas with Digital Unix (multicast enabled on the net) and I don't want to receive packets from the same IP multicast address at application level. Maybe there is an obvious solution but it doesn't come to my mind. Thanks for any help, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucia GRADINARIU CISM-Univ. Cl. Bernard Lyon1 voice:(33).72.44.83.95 Bat. 101 Bd. du 11 Novembre 1918 fax:(33).72.44.84.10 69622 Villeurbanne FRANCE email:lucia@univ-lyon1.fr --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Nov 13 13:06:29 1995 Received: from ipoint.vlsi.uiuc.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:05:48 -0800 Received: by ipoint.vlsi.uiuc.edu id AA06491 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for rem-conf@es.net); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:13:24 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:13:24 -0600 From: Ashfaq Hossain Message-Id: <199511131813.AA06491@ipoint.vlsi.uiuc.edu> To: lucia@univ-lyon1.fr, rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: transmit only option If you do not want to receive back IP multicast packets at the sending machine, then you have to turn off the loopback mode. This can be achieved by setting the following socket option: setsockopt(sock, IPPROTO_IP, IP_MULTICAST_LOOP,(char *)&zero,sizeof(zero)) ; Hope it helps. -Ashfaq Hossain Dept of Computer Science, Univ of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 14 01:38:12 1995 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:37:34 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA00404 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:37:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199511140637.WAA00404@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: MBONE Reservation request: Nov 18, 95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:37:29 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." I am posting this on Aimnet behalf which is planning to broacast the Jefferson Starship Concert on November 18, 1995 . We are planning to broacast out of Cupertino , Ca . starting around 18:00 PST. If anyone has a conflicting event, please contact me, hasty@star-gate.com, so that we can resolve the scheduling issues. Thank you -- Amancio Hasty Hasty Software Consulting Services Tel: 415-495-3046 Fax: 415-495-3046 Cellular: 415-309-8434 e-mail: hasty@star-gate.com Powered by FreeBSD From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 14 09:32:20 1995 Received: from cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 06:31:38 -0800 Received: (from lucia@localhost) by cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA16740; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:27:17 +0100 Message-Id: <199511141427.PAA16740@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> Subject: Re: transmit only option To: ashfaq@ipoint.vlsi.uiuc.edu (Ashfaq Hossain) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:27:16 +0100 (MET) From: Lucia Gradinariu Cc: rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: <199511131813.AA06491@ipoint.vlsi.uiuc.edu> from "Ashfaq Hossain" at Nov 13, 95 12:13:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 606 > > > If you do not want to receive back IP multicast packets at the > sending machine, then you have to turn off the loopback mode. > > This can be achieved by setting the following socket option: > > setsockopt(sock, IPPROTO_IP, IP_MULTICAST_LOOP,(char *)&zero,sizeof(zero)) ; > > > Hope it helps. > For nv I #undef IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP (to get a sort of multicast level 1) and kept setsockopt IP_MULTICAST_TTL (to send with ttl >1 which is the default) I'm not sure i have to turn off loopback as i think this serves to display local image (sorry if i'm wrong) Lucia.Gradinariu@univ-lyon1.fr From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 14 13:11:13 1995 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:08:01 -0800 Received: from rodent.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:07:44 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 X-url: http://av.avc.ucl.ac.uk To: ari@es.net, mb@hplb.hpl.hp.com cc: P.OHanlon@cs.ucl.ac.uk, rem-conf@es.net Subject: HP audio problems with VAT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 18:07:44 +0000 From: Piers O'Hanlon Hi, >I'm trying to run VAT between two HP 725 workstations to learn how to >use it. > >My problem is that in one direction I find a 10sec delay and the audio is >slowed to approx half speed, and in the other direction the audio is >almost instant, but sounds like double speed. > Here a couple of things that might be causing the problem between the HP's; 1. The HP audio device seems to have a bad tendency to forget what sampling rate it has been asked to use - or is not reset by differing applications (I'm not entriely sure where the problem lies). Anyway so what might happen is that vat starts but some other application has left the sampling rate at something other than 8000 and so vat sends out what it believes to be 8000 samples but they are in fact something else and appear to be Helium clowns or 200 year old tortoises. - Below is a very small code segement (provided by terje.vernly@usit.uio.no originally) which if run immediately before a vat session will ensure the audio device is sampling 8000 - that is untill some other appplication messes with it (like some of the MPower stuff). The patch below has NO affect on this sampling rate problem - ie you still need to reset the audio if there are problems. The bug is fixed in vat-3.5 (according to CHANGES.html in vat-4.0a1) but I can't find any binaries - Try compiling vat-alpha-4.0a2... 2. If you're running unpatched s700 HP-UX 9.0[357] (I don't know about 10.0?) there has been large system patch released that clears up some of the audio delays in kernel, amongst a whole lot of other problems. The patch I applied was PHKL_5832 (which includes the audio patches PHKL_4959 PHKL_3578 PHKL_3572 PHKL_4959 PHKL_4676...) but HP may have included some more (the latest patch I found was PHKL_6050) so it's best to check out their patch archive at: http://support.mayfield.hp.com/slx/html/ptc_hpux.html I hope this helps, -- Piers O'Hanlon ______________ Audio Visual Centre University College London. ---------------------------------------------------------- reset_hpaudio.c ---------------------------------------------------------- #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char **argv) { int afd; if ((afd=open("/dev/audioCtl",O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK))!=-1) ioctl(afd,AUDIO_SET_SAMPLE_RATE,8000); close(afd); } From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 14 15:24:10 1995 Received: from plateau.cs.Berkeley.EDU (actually bugs-bunny.CS.Berkeley.EDU) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:23:35 -0800 Received: from paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU (paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.36.57]) by plateau.cs.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.3) with ESMTP id MAA11172; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:17:12 -0800 Received: (alicef@localhost) by paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.10/8.1B) id MAA18098; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:17:09 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:17:09 -0800 From: Alice Ford Message-Id: <199511142017.MAA18098@paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: 298-list@bugs-bunny.cs.berkeley.edu Subject: Multimedia Seminar 11/15: Get Into the Groove Cc: alicef@paradise.CS.Berkeley.EDU Multimedia and Graphics Seminar (Wed November 15, 1995 12:30-2:00 PDT 405 Soda Hall) GET INTO THE GROOVE: Designing for participation Amy Jo Bilson Naima Productions As on-line communities become increasingly more responsive and media-enriched, CyberSpace takes on more and more of the properties of a live performance. In this talk, I look at many different forms of live performance. In this talk, I look at many different forms of live performance - theatre, school, parades, demonstrations, religious services, musical events - and examine the social and artistic structures which encourage interactivity. I then distill these observations into 7 design principles for facilitating participation during live performance, and discuss how these principles can be applied to the design of next-generation online communities. Background: Amy Jo Kim has been designing and building innovative user interfaces for 14 years. Trained as a research scientist, she recieved her Ph.D. in Physiological Psychology in 1986, at which point a promising career in Neuroscience was derailed by a fascination with building things that people use. Since then, she has been architecting software, designing user interfaces, and playing bass guitar in African dance bands. Amy Jo is currently the Creative Director at Naima Productions, a design consulting firm specializing in networked social environments. Her clients include AT&T, MTV, Oracle, Fujitsu, NetNoir, and YAHOO. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/298 for further information. The seminar will be broadcast on the Internet MBONE starting at 12:40. The Fujitsu Seminar room (405 Soda) has approximately 30 seats. Folks at Berkeley might want to attend the seminar by watching it on your workstation, if you can receive MBONE transmissions. Due to problems at Berkeley, this seminar will not be available over the BAGNet. We hope to have the problems resolved in time for next weeks presentation. From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 15 11:40:31 1995 Received: from sicmail.epfl.ch by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:39:56 -0800 Received: from imhfsg6.epfl.ch by sicmail.epfl.ch with SMTP (PP) id <22585-0@sicmail.epfl.ch>; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 17:38:26 +0100 From: barrutia@imhfsg6.epfl.ch (Jose Manuel Barrutia) Message-Id: <9511151738.ZM888@imhfsg6.epfl.ch> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 17:38:21 +0100 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: rem-conf@es.net, webmaster@cilea.it Subject: Error typing the name of the conference. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have just book a conference over the MBone. I have typed an error, could you corrige them. thank you. 23-Nov 13:00 23-Nov 15:00 Assessing the Zero Paper Society Contact: JoseManuelBarrutia@imhef.dgm.epfl.ch, http://sgline.epfl.ch/mbone/mbone.html The "Strategic Management of Innocation" Program of the European Master on ^^^^ The right name is "Innovation" Society, Science and Technology organises a lecture by Mr. Neirynck on "Assessing the Zero Paper Society". A general introduction to ESST will be presented previously. The lecture will be broadcast from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. The slides being presented in the lecture room will be automatically updated on the Web. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jose Manuel Barrutia E-Mail: barrutia@epfl.ch Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Phone: + 41 21 693 59 03 Mechanical Engineering Department Fax: + 41 21 693 36 46 EPFL-DME-IMHEF-COSMASE 1015 Lausanne (Switzerland) http://imhefwww.epfl.ch/lmf/multimedia/home.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 15 12:30:41 1995 Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:30:12 -0800 Received: from ormail.intel.com (ormail.intel.com [134.134.192.3]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA03004 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:29:53 -0800 Received: from relay.hf.intel.com by ormail.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0tFlf0-000UdoC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 09:30 PST Received: from ccm.hf.intel.com by relay.hf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0tFlf0-000qDLC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 09:30 PST Original-Received: by ccm.hf.intel.com (ccmgate 3.2 #1) Wed, 15 Nov 95 09:30:09 PST PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 18:23:00 PST From: Peter Seeberg Message-ID: To: rem-conf-request@es.net, rem-conf@es.net Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Text item: UNSUBSCRIBE Text item: External Message Header The following mail header is for administrative use and may be ignored unless there are problems. ***IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS SAVE THESE HEADERS***. Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: rem-conf@es.net Message-ID: <951107074335_17997911@hp1.online.apple.com> From: Davidwfox@eworld.com Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 07:43:37 -0800 Received: by hp1.online.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA05216 for rem-conf@es.net; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 07:43:37 -0800 Received: from hp1.online.apple.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 07:43:40 -0800 Received: from osi-west.es.net by ormail.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0tCt1B-000Uj8C; Tue, 7 Nov 95 10:45 PST Received: from ormail.intel.com by relay.jf.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0tCt1F-000twaC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 10:45 PST From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 15 15:48:16 1995 Received: from decu13.triumf.ca by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:47:13 -0800 Received: by decu13.triumf.ca (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA12996; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:45:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:45:24 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Daviel To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: sd.tcl for xx_record tools ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm trying to use the record tools vat_record, wb_record, nv_record. It would be nice to launch these with sd - I've already goofed once by failing to specify a conference for vat_record and getting 3 hours of silence :b)= I've had a crude go at this, by copying an editted sd.tcl onto .sd.tcl then running sd. Is there a better way to do it ? What I'd really like is to have a couple of extra buttons on sd labelled "record" and "play". Failing that, I guess I can have a different tcl file for view, record and play, so that to playback I would get an address with "New", then start the player with "open". Andrew Daviel email: advax@triumf.ca TRIUMF voice: 604-222-7376 4004 Wesbrook Mall fax: 604-222-7307 Vancouver BC http://andrew.triumf.ca/~andrew Canada V6T 2A3 49D14.7N 123D13.6W From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 16 06:14:42 1995 Received: from tamdhu.dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk (actually tamdhu.dcs.st-and.ac.uk) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:14:04 -0800 Received: from bushmills.dcs.st-and.ac.uk by tamdhu.dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08539; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:15:57 GMT Message-Id: <9511161115.AA08539@tamdhu.dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk> To: Andrew Daviel Cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: sd.tcl for xx_record tools ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:45:24 PST." Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:12:57 +0000 From: Paul Harrington Andrew> What I'd really like is to have a couple of extra buttons on Andrew> sd labelled "record" and "play". Failing that, I guess I can Andrew> have a different tcl sd calls the proc heard_session when a new session arrives. Here is some hacked together stuff for .sd.tcl that uses a a cohort to send a Tk announcement of a new session. This is a _very_ crude way of creating the sd_sess array (and the sd_$media arrays) within the name space of another Tcl/Tk interpreter where you can then attach whatever bells and whistles you want: record the session, save the announcement in a log or whatever. Unfortunately, the interp that sd uses does not have the Tk procedure loaded hence the other process to send the message on its behalf. Perhaps a better solution is to snoop the sd session announcements directly off 224.2.127.255:9876, decode them and then do whatever you like. pjjH proc heard_session {} { global sd_sess sess_announce_interp foreach i [array names sd_sess] { append pack_var "set sd_sess($i) \{$sd_sess($i)\};" } foreach m $sd_sess(media) { set m_array "sd_$m" eval "global $m_array" foreach s [array names $m_array] { set v [eval "set ${m_array}($s)"] # puts "$m $s $v" append pack_var "set ${m_array}($s) \{$v\};" } } lappend pack_var "heard_session" set p [open "|sendit $sess_announce_interp" w] puts $p $pack_var puts $pack_var close $p } ------------------------------ This is sendit! #!/usr/local/bin/wish -f # little shim to send a message on behalf of a Tcl based program to a # Tk application. Developed for letting sd communicate with Tk apps wm withdraw . set dest [lindex $argv 0] gets stdin line send $dest $line exit From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 16 09:31:27 1995 Received: from crdems.ge.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 06:30:55 -0800 Received: from grymoire.crd.ge.com by crdems.ge.com (5.65/GE 1.77) id AA17927; Thu, 16 Nov 95 09:26:06 -0500 Received: by grymoire.crd.ge.com (5.x/GE-CRD Standard Sendmail Version S1.5)id AA23960; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:27:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:27:21 -0500 From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) Message-Id: <9511161427.AA23960@grymoire.crd.ge.com> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: XIng Streamworks and Firewalls X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII We are having troubles getting the XING Streamworks player to work going through a firewall. Has anyone else been successful? Bruce Barnett Computer Scientist GE Corporate Research and Development Center From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 16 11:08:02 1995 Received: from rc4.vub.ac.be (actually mailhost.vub.ac.be) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:07:25 -0800 Received: from is2e.vub.ac.be (is2e [134.184.15.6]) by rc4.vub.ac.be (8.6.10/3.4.2.ap (rc4)) id RAA12528; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:10:26 +0100 Received: by is2e.vub.ac.be (5.61/BFUCC-920211) id AA06973; Thu, 16 Nov 95 17:07:10 +0100 From: hw45289@is1.vub.ac.be (KEPPENS ACHIEL) Message-Id: <9511161607.AA06973@is2e.vub.ac.be> Subject: To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:07:07 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23c] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 36 unsubscribe rem-conf Achiel Keppens From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 16 17:30:16 1995 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:29:43 -0800 Received: from olympus.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.186]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14784(1)>; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:29:39 PST Received: from localhost by olympus.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <14614>; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:29:30 -0800 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: sd.tcl for xx_record tools ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:45:24 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:29:25 PST Sender: Anders Klemets From: Anders Klemets Message-Id: <95Nov16.142930pst.14614@olympus.parc.xerox.com> > I'm trying to use the record tools vat_record, wb_record, nv_record. I am surprised each time I hear that people are still using these programs. Sooner or later all software gets old and start to rot. Some software, such as vi, nroff, and MS/DOS seem to last forever, but my MBone recording tools are definitely past their "best if used before" date. The nv tools probably don't work properly becaaue they are based on an old version of RTP. The vat tools still work, but only as long as RTP is not used for transmitting audio. A suitable "next generation" replacement for these tools is the "MBone VCR" by Wieland Holfelder. It has a GUI, but apparently it can also run in "batch" mode. See http://www.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/~whd/mbone-vcr/ Thanks, Anders From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 16 18:14:18 1995 Received: from gizmo.lut.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:13:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (martin@localhost) by gizmo.lut.ac.uk (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA21365; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:13:30 GMT Message-Id: <199511162313.XAA21365@gizmo.lut.ac.uk> To: mbone@isi.edu, rem-conf@es.net Bcc: X-URI: Subject: MBONE & WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <21363.816563605.1@mrrl.lut.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:13:25 +0000 From: Martin Hamilton I've created a mailing list for discussions/hacking on WWW and IP multicast integration. If this sounds like your cup of tea, feel free to join in the fun - just send an email message to w-bone-request@mrrl.lut.ac.uk with a message body consisting of the word "subscribe" on its own The current topic of conversation is multicast ICP (Harvest's Internet Cache Protocol - cf. ) Cheerio, Martin From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Nov 17 16:18:00 1995 Received: from decu13.triumf.ca by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:17:28 -0800 Received: by decu13.triumf.ca (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA28007; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:16:07 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:16:07 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Daviel To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: multiple copies of sd ?? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible somehow to run multiple copies of sd on one machine? We have X-terminals rather than individual workstations. We get "bind: Address already in use", also sometimes if Mosaic was started by sd, sd killed then restarted. Andrew Daviel email: advax@triumf.ca TRIUMF voice: 604-222-7376 4004 Wesbrook Mall fax: 604-222-7307 Vancouver BC http://andrew.triumf.ca/~andrew Canada V6T 2A3 49D14.7N 123D13.6W From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Nov 17 17:12:06 1995 Received: from cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:11:31 -0800 Received: (from lucia@localhost) by cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA27943; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 21:23:19 +0100 Message-Id: <199511172023.VAA27943@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> Subject: Re: multicast to unicast audio To: elson@aeolus.jpl.nasa.gov (Lee Elson) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 21:23:19 +0100 (MET) From: Lucia Gradinariu Cc: rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: <199511171625.IAA21917@aeolus> from "Lee Elson" at Nov 17, 95 08:25:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 809 > > Does anyone know how to transfer audio from a multicasting machine to one that > doesn't have multicast? Both machines have vat but I need to be able to connect > the audio input from one vat session to the audio output of another. TIA > This worked for me: on the mc_machine: vat -m u_machine/port1/fmt1 conf_address/port2/fmt2/ID on the u_machine vat mc_machine/port1/fmt1/ID Van Jacobson explains -m option very well in vat's man. Hope this helps, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucia GRADINARIU CISM-Univ. Cl. Bernard Lyon1 voice:(33).72.44.83.95 Bat. 101 Bd. du 11 Novembre 1918 fax:(33).72.44.84.10 69622 Villeurbanne FRANCE email:lucia@univ-lyon1.fr --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Nov 17 22:54:13 1995 Received: from piglet.coe.missouri.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 19:53:43 -0800 Received: from most.coe.missouri.edu (most.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.59.186]) by piglet.coe.missouri.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA04028; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 21:53:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 21:53:20 -0600 (CST) From: Tymm Twillman X-Sender: tymm@most.coe.missouri.edu To: Anders Klemets cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: sd.tcl for xx_record tools ? In-Reply-To: <95Nov16.142930pst.14614@olympus.parc.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually, this brings up a question I have: are there any currently available tools that can be set up without an X connections to broadcast audio and video streams? We are working on putting together a video-on-demand-plus-other-neat-stuff service for testing on the local campus, and would like to be able to include the option to re-transmit local news, etc, to the local network daily, without needing to have someone manually set up the tools, and without requiring an X connection. (it would also be nice to have command-line selecting of audio and video inputs.) As far as the platform, we're using SGI Indy's, running Irix 5.3. If anyone has any information that would help out (and not require us to do some major source modifications...) I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks, -Tymm From rem-conf-request@es.net Sat Nov 18 21:36:18 1995 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:35:48 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA00274; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:35:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199511190235.SAA00274@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: mbone@ISI.EDU, rem-conf@es.net Subject: Jefferson Starship in Concert Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:35:00 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Howdy, We are broacasting the Jefferson Starship Cybership Concert this Saturday starting at 20:00 PST it will probably last to about 1:15 Pacific Standard Time. Jefferson Starship Concert Broadcast out of San Francisco today Saturday starting at 8:00 Pacific Standard Time Session Cybership 224.2.195.92 ttl 127 audio@62693/11239 video@58671/40417 On behalf of Aimnet and I Have A Ball! Amancio Hasty Hasty Software Consulting Services Tel: 415-495-3046 Fax: 415-495-3046 Cellular: 415-309-8434 e-mail: hasty@star-gate.com Powered by FreeBSD From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Nov 19 17:00:04 1995 Received: from ell.ee.lbl.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 13:59:24 -0800 Received: by ell.ee.lbl.gov (8.7.1/1.43r) id NAA21610; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 13:59:23 -0800 (PST) From: mccanne@ee.lbl.gov (Steven McCanne) Message-Id: <199511192159.NAA21610@ell.ee.lbl.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Video coding question Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 13:59:23 PST I would like to follow up the nv/h.261 compression-performance thread with a few comments. Let me preface this note by saying that Ron Frederick's nv algorithm is a really slick approach for trading off compression performance for vastly reduced run-time performance; hence it's phenomenal success. But in the time since the nv algorithm was first introduced, we've made progress on low-complexity DCT-based approaches and the compression/run-time performance gap has closed somewhat. Both nv and vic's ``Intra-H.261'' coder are built around more or less the same framework: ``conditional replenishment'' is used to select, code, and transmit only blocks that change on each new frame. The only difference between nv and Intra-H.261 is how each block is coded -- nv uses a Haar transform and run-length coding, while Intra-H.261 uses Intra-mode DCT-based coding according to the H.261 standard. The idea behind Intra-H.261 is to combine some of the run-time efficiency of nv (you don't have to do prediction, motion-vector searches, or double-buffering) with the advantages of H.261 (standards compliance and improved compression performance). Because nv and Intra-H.261 share this common framework, they have equivalent error-resilience to packet loss. We've done some measurements to quantify the improvement obtained by going to Intra-H.261 (see the excerpt from our ACM Multimedia paper in http://www-nrg/vic/rd.html). You get a factor of about 2.5 better compression with Intra-H.261 for a given level of quality (PSNR). Of course, as discussed in the email thread, there is a tradeoff in run-time performance for better compression gain. If you look at just capture, compression, and transmission (i.e., with local loopback disabled), the nv encoder runs about twice as fast as vic's Intra-H.261 encoder. On the other hand, if you consider the decode path, the actual decoding stage compromises only a fraction of the total system cost (i.e., the largest chunk of CPU is typically spent dithering and painting pixels). In this case, Intra-H.261 decoding is only about 20% slower than nv decoding. This figure was measured by setting the H.261 quantizer to give quality equivalent to nv, restricting the source frame rate to say five frames/sec, decoding to a CIF-sized window, and then comparing the resulting CPU utilizations. (This result is roughly consistent across both nv and vic's implementation of the nv codec.) Ron has since come up with an nv variant that uses a DCT in the place of the Haar transform. This coder falls somewhere in between the nv and Intra-H.261 coders in terms of both run-time and compression performance. Unfortunately, unforeseen configuration problems in the the initial deployment of vic-2.6 a year ago resulted in a widespread misconception that vic's Intra-H.261 decoder was much slower than the nv decoder. The reasons are at least threefold: (1) the improved compression ratios led to higher frame rates which prevented low-end machines from keeping up with high rendering rates (which Mark Handley pointed out in this thread); (2) we made the more expensive error-diffusion dithering algorithm the default; and (3) vic does not adapt well to overload. We have since been limiting the frame-rate to 8 frame/sec for the UCB Seminar transmissions and if low-end machines use the ordered-dither (instead of error-diffusion), I believe they can keep up just fine. (3) still hasn't yet been addressed, but we hope to make progress on the load-adaptation extensions soon. Finally, there is another rumor floating around that the nv format performs better for text/slides. I believe that this was first conjectured to me by Martin Vetterli who thought that the square basis functions of the Haar transform would do well to represent the edges in text. Somehow I translated this into fact in the vic man page. I have since run some experiments. For a fixed bit rate, the H.261 algorithm still performs better than the nv algorithm on text (even if you consider a perceptual metric -- it's pretty obvious just by looking at the resulting images). This rumor was amplified by the fact that the default quality for nv is much higher than the default quality for H.261 (which we chose intentionally to better convey sense-of-presence as opposed to information content of slides). If you adjust the H.261 quantizer (say to "4"), then the resulting quality is comparable to nv and the bit rate is still much lower. To summarize, I believe that the Intra-H.261 approach is worth the modest decrease in run-time performance. Ron has talked about putting H.261 support into nv, and ivs is being upgraded to RTPv2, so we should soon have a solid base of applications that can all interoperate using H.261. Steve From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Nov 19 17:53:52 1995 Received: from insanus.matematik.su.se by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 14:53:11 -0800 Received: from localhost (wizkids.matematik.su.se [130.237.198.20]) by insanus.matematik.su.se (8.7.1/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA20181; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 23:52:44 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199511192252.XAA20181@insanus.matematik.su.se> X-Address: Department of Mathematics, Stockholm University S-106 91 Stockholm SWEDEN X-Phone: int+46 8 162000 X-Fax: int+46 8 6126717 X-Url: http://www.matematik.su.se To: mbone@isi.edu, rem-conf@es.net Subject: Retransmissions from Stockholm Math Worshop Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 23:52:43 +0100 From: Leif Johansson Hi Y'all, I will be broadcasting retransmissions from the Workshop on Remote Collaboration and Resource Sharing in Mathematics held in Stockholm on 23-29 of October, on the 20:th and 21:st of November from 20:00 GMT. Original scedules and abstracts can be found here: http://wizkids.matematik.su.se/users/leifj/workshop.html The format of the video will be vic. Best Regards Leif Johansson Phone: +46 8 164541 Department of Mathematics Fax : +46 8 6126717 Stockholm University email: leifj@matematik.su.se From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Nov 19 18:35:32 1995 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 15:35:07 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA10269; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 15:34:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199511192334.PAA10269@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: mccanne@ee.lbl.gov (Steven McCanne) cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Video coding question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 19 Nov 1995 13:59:23 PST." <199511192159.NAA21610@ell.ee.lbl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 15:34:56 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." >>> Steven McCanne said: > To summarize, I believe that the Intra-H.261 approach is worth the > modest decrease in run-time performance. Ron has talked about > putting H.261 support into nv, and ivs is being upgraded to RTPv2, > so we should soon have a solid base of applications that can all > interoperate using H.261. Well, there be Win 95 apps? Mind you I don't use Win 95 however I do expect to be whole of Win 95 installations. Also, what is the time frame for the RTPv2 suite to be deployed Amancio From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Nov 19 19:01:40 1995 Received: from ell.ee.lbl.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 16:01:07 -0800 Received: by ell.ee.lbl.gov (8.7.1/1.43r) id QAA21707; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) From: mccanne@ee.lbl.gov (Steven McCanne) Message-Id: <199511200001.QAA21707@ell.ee.lbl.gov> To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Video coding question In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:34:56 -0800. <199511192334.PAA10269@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 16:01:04 PST > Well, there be Win 95 apps? As Jon Crowcroft has said in the past on this list, Dimitris Terzis (d.terzis@cs.ucl.ac.uk) at UCL is in the process of porting the MBone tools to Windows. Also, I believe there are several commercial efforts underway for RTP/multicast-capable Windows applications. > Also, what is the time frame for the RTPv2 suite to be deployed Hopefully soon. We need to finish the vic-2.7/vat-4 bullet-proofing and figure out a transition strategy. We hope to leverage of a release of Mark Handley's slick, new sd-replacement, "sdr", which should allow us to avoid the ".sd.tcl" version problems of the past. Steve From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Nov 20 04:44:23 1995 Received: from sophia.inria.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 01:43:40 -0800 Received: from [138.96.8.81] by sophia.inria.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA22480; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:40:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:40:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sophia.inria.fr: Host sophmaccdc1.inria.fr claimed to be [138.96.8.81] Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mccanne@ee.lbl.gov (Steven McCanne) From: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) Subject: Re: Video coding question Cc: rem-conf@es.net At 1:59 PM 19/11/95, Steven McCanne wrote: >Finally, there is another rumor floating around that the nv format >performs better for text/slides. I believe that this was first >conjectured to me by Martin Vetterli who thought that the square >basis functions of the Haar transform would do well to represent >the edges in text. Somehow I translated this into fact in the vic >man page. I have since run some experiments. For a fixed bit rate, >the H.261 algorithm still performs better than the nv algorithm on >text (even if you consider a perceptual metric -- it's pretty obvious >just by looking at the resulting images). This rumor was amplified >by the fact that the default quality for nv is much higher than the >default quality for H.261 (which we chose intentionally to better >convey sense-of-presence as opposed to information content of slides). >If you adjust the H.261 quantizer (say to "4"), then the resulting >quality is comparable to nv and the bit rate is still much lower. The rumor started out very early, during the first side-by-side runs of NV and IVS. IVS usage of H.261 resulted in much higher compression ratios but the transparencies appeared somewhat blurred on the edges. There is something intrisic to the DCT transform here. Basically, in operates in the frequency domain, not the space domain, on the basis that the lower frequencies contain most of the significant information. Images with lots of sharp edges, e.g. texts, also have very significant high frequency components. The observation was in fact taken into account in the later versions of IVS, which let the sender privilege "movement" and obtain fast moving images to the price of some fuziness, or "quality" and obtain sharp slow moving images. Your initial versions of VIC had a "slide" interface button, which resulted in a similar effect. The observation that DCT is not a good fit for edgy pictures is actually one of reasons for going to "H.261-intra", as in VIC, instead of "H.261 with deltas" as specified in the standard and implemented in the first versions of IVS (the other reason is robustness). The difference between successive images is full of sharp edges. The "rounding effect" of the DCT results in misrepresentations of these differences, that appear as water marks or phantoms on the screen. The debatable gain of delta-coding with DCT is thus not worse the pain, specially in lossy networks. The only reservation I would have to chosing "H.261-intra" the base standard for Internet video-conferencing is compatibility with ISDN codecs. I guess this is a case where we have to be generous with what we accept (the full spec) and conservative with what we send (intra only). Also, we should not forget that H.261 is a low-end standard - the CIF format is only 288 lines. It is probably time to work on a scalable resolution standard, e.g. based on wavelets. Christian Huitema From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Nov 20 13:45:33 1995 Received: from beantown.lcs.mit.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:45:02 -0800 Received: by beantown.lcs.mit.edu (8.7.1/SGI) for rem-conf@es.net id SAA05324; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:44:59 GMT From: rabatin@beantown.lcs.mit.edu (George Rabatin) Message-Id: <199511201844.SAA05324@beantown.lcs.mit.edu> Subject: MBONE Reservation request: Dec 12-14 To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 13:44:59 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text The MIT Laboratory for Computer Science is planning an MBONE presentation of selected sessions of the Fourth International World Wide Web Conference, "The Web Revolution", on Dec. 12th, 13th, and 14th, 1995. The conference will be held in Boston, MA. Conference web pages can be found at: http://www.w3.org/pub/Conferences/WWW4/ More detailed information about the multicast can be found at http://beantown.lcs.mit.edu/mbone/www4.html (up to date sessions and times)... The Lab would like to reserve MBONE bandwidth for 2 simultaneous presentations. The presentations will occur during the following times: date time(EST) time(GMT) session/speakers -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12 Dec 95 8:00-18:00 13:00-23:00 live presentation 13 Dec 95 20:00*-4:00 01:00-09:00 rebroadcast of days events 13 Dec 95 8:00-18:00 13:00-23:00 live presentation 14 Dec 95 20:00**-4:00 01:00-09:00 rebroadcast of days events *=12 Dec **=13 Dec If anyone has a conflicting event, please contact me, rabatin@lcs.mit.edu, so that we can resolve the scheduling issues. This information has been posted to the Mbone Broadcast Schedule: http://www.msri.org:80/mbone/ Thanks, George Rabatin MIT Lab for Computer Science rabatin@lcs.mit.edu From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 21 00:37:33 1995 Received: from ell.ee.lbl.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:37:05 -0800 Received: by ell.ee.lbl.gov (8.7.1/1.43r) id VAA01529; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:37:02 -0800 (PST) From: mccanne@ee.lbl.gov (Steven McCanne) Message-Id: <199511210537.VAA01529@ell.ee.lbl.gov> To: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Video coding question In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:40:11 +0100. Date: Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:37:01 PST Christian, We all agree that applying a DCT to an image with rich spectral content (i.e., text or block differences) can hurt the later entropy-coding stage. An orthogonal issue is whether nv's Haar transform codes such blocks better than H.261 (in a rate-distorion sense, where distortion should be measured perceptually). My measurements show that this is not true (for both PSNR as well as my sense of perceptual quality). I suspect that in your early side-by-side runs of nv and ivs, the H.261 quantizer wasn't adjusted to give a rate equivalent to that used by the corresponding nv stream; in other words, it probably wasn't an apples to apples comparison. > The only reservation I would have to chosing "H.261-intra" the base > standard for Internet video-conferencing is compatibility with ISDN codecs. > I guess this is a case where we have to be generous with what we accept > (the full spec) and conservative with what we send (intra only). Just to clarify, vic's Intra-H.261 output is fully compliant with the H.261 standard (and vic's decoder indeed accepts the full spec). We've tested interoperability with several commercial hardware codecs. I don't think we need to define a base standard for Internet video. We have several mature RTP payload specificiations for different compression algorithms and independent implementations that interoperate. Whatever compression algorithm works best is hopefully what people will use in the long run. > It is probably time to work on a scalable resolution standard, > e.g. based on wavelets. Yes, I agree! (will be in vic-2.8 :-) Steve From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 21 10:32:37 1995 Received: from cythera.unb.ca by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 07:32:02 -0800 Received: from cythera.unb.ca (cythera.unb.ca [131.202.3.18]) by cythera.unb.ca (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA18087; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 11:28:23 -0400 Newsgroups: rec.music.classical Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 11:28:11 -0400 (AST) From: "Dwight E. Spencer" To: rem-conf@es.net cc: mbone-na@isi.edu, atlanted@unb.ca, newmedia@unb.ca, lex-l@unb.ca, cnet@unb.ca, cnetadmin@cythera.unb.ca, Allyn.Romanow@Eng.Sun.COM, Brian O'Shea , cu-seeme-l@cornell.edu Subject: Symphony Broadcast on Mbone, simulcast on CUSM. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII (sorry to those who get multiple copies...) The Saint John String Quartet is performing this Thurday (November 23rd) at the Christ Church Cathedral, in downtown Fredericton, NB, Canada. With the help of many members of the community, we are pleased to announce that we will be able to broadcast this concert LIVE on the mbone as well as to CUSM clients via a cusm reflector running at sol.csd.unb.ca. Broadcast time is 4:00pm PST, 8:00pm AST(local), Midnight GMT. We hope as many people as possible will drop in to see this Thursday evening. Please contact Steve Sloan (sloan@unb.ca) or myself (spencer@unb.ca) for more details, or see the URL http://www.lib.unb.ca/sjsq/ I will be broadcasting to the mbone with nv (cuseeme encoding, 70kbps) and vat. I will be also broadcasting it to the cusm reflector. You can download cusm clients at ftp://gated.cornell.edu/ or ftp://ftp.wpine.com/ Many thanks to those involved: Brunswick Micro NBTel UNB Libraries Community Access Canada Symphony New Brunswick American Federation of Musicians Sun Microsystems UNB Computing Services Saint John String Quartet Dean Wright of Christ Church Cathedral Dwight Spencer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dwight E. Spencer Canada's Community Access Network eMail: spencer@unb.ca, Server Administrator UNB, Fredericton, NB, Canada Phone: +1 506 447 3153 Url: http://cnet.unb.ca/cspace/staff/dspencer/ From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 21 11:24:55 1995 Received: from IETF.nri.reston.VA.US (actually ietf.cnri.reston.va.us) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 08:24:28 -0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa12136; 21 Nov 95 9:45 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce:; cc: rem-conf@es.net From: Internet-Drafts@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-profile-06.txt, .ps Date: Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:45:23 -0500 Sender: cclark@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Message-ID: <9511210945.aa12136@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US> --NextPart A Revised Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Working Group of the IETF. Note: This revision reflects comments received during the last call period. Title : RTP Profile for Audio and Video Conferences with Minimal Control Author(s) : H. Schulzrinne Filename : draft-ietf-avt-profile-06.txt, .ps Pages : 18 Date : 11/20/1995 This memo describes a profile for the use of the real-time transport protocol (RTP), version 2, and the associated control protocol, RTCP, within audio and video multiparticipant conferences with minimal control. It provides interpretations of generic fields within the RTP specification suitable for audio and video conferences. In particular, this document defines a set of default mappings from payload type numbers to encodings. The document also describes how audio and video data may be carried within RTP. It defines a set of standard encodings and their names when used within RTP. 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This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Working Group of the IETF. Note: This revision reflects comments received during the last call period. Title : RTP: A Transport Protocol for Real-Time Applications Author(s) : H. Schulzrinne, S. Casner, R. Frederick, V. Jacobson Filename : draft-ietf-avt-rtp-08.txt, .ps Pages : 77 Date : 11/20/1995 This memorandum describes RTP, the real-time transport protocol. RTP provides end-to-end network transport functions suitable for applications transmitting real-time data, such as audio, video or simulation data, over multicast or unicast network services. RTP does not address resource reservation and does not guarantee quality-of-service for real-time services. The data transport is augmented by a control protocol (RTCP) to allow monitoring of the data delivery in a manner scalable to large multicast networks, and to provide minimal control and identification functionality. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ds.internic.net" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19951120170125.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avt-rtp-08.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-avt-rtp-08.txt"; site="ds.internic.net"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19951120170125.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 21 12:07:57 1995 Received: from iasia2 (actually iasia2.iasi.rm.cnr.it) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 09:06:46 -0800 Received: by iasia2; id AA02927; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:03:24 +0100 Message-Id: <9511211703.AA02927@iasia2> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 95 18:03:30 0100 Sender: fantoni@iasia2 From: Fantoni - tesista Cioni X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: unsubscribe X-Url: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/minos/employees/hgs/rtp/faq2.html#0.0.2.0.0.0.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii unsubscribe From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 21 23:17:58 1995 Received: from medoc.CS.Berkeley.EDU by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:17:25 -0800 Received: from medoc.CS.Berkeley.EDU (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by medoc.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA14674; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:17:23 -0800 From: Eric Paulos Message-Id: <199511220417.UAA14674@medoc.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: rem-conf@es.net, rem-conf-request@es.net cc: mbone@isi.edu Subject: MBONE Reservation request: Nov 24, 25, or 26 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:17:22 -0800 Survival Research Laboratories (SRL) is planning an MBONE presentation of their upcoming large scale "Crime Wave" show. This show will revolve around the many aspects of violent human interaction. This will be the first large scale SRL performance since the May 1994 show, "A Calculated Forecast Of Ultimate Doom". The "Crime Wave" show will take place either November 24 (Friday), 25 (Saturday), or 26 (Sunday). Exact notification of the time of day and location will not be released until necessary. To avoid regulatory difficulties, arrangements will be sneakier than usual. This will also apply to how we will be notifying the public. By nature SRL shows must happen without much warning to avoid alerting various official personal. For that reason we are remaining vague about the exact date and time of the show. As the show date approaches, we will be more specific via the WWW site mentioned below. Seeing as there are no other events scheduled during this three day time frame, we do not expect any conflicts or problems. If anyone has a conflicting event, please contact me, Eric Paulos (paulos@cs.berkeley.edu), so that we can resolve the scheduling issues. I apologize for the late announcement and the vagueness of the date but our group must be somewhat secretive to avoid confrontation with various official personal. Survival Research Laboratories was conceived of and founded by Mark Pauline in November 1978. Since its inception SRL has operated as an organization of creative technicians dedicated to re-directing the techniques, tools, and tenets of industry, science, and the military away from their typical manifestations in practicality, product or warfare. Since 1979, SRL has staged over 45 mechanized presentations in the United States and Europe. Each performance consists of a unique set of ritualized interactions between machines, robots, and special effects devices, employed in developing themes of socio-political satire. Humans are present only as audience or operators. More information about SRL can be found at the WWW site below: http://robotics.eecs.berkeley.edu/SRL/ The show will be broadcast out of the San Francisco Bay Area. More detailed and up to date information about the multicast can be found at the following location: http://robotics.eecs.berkeley.edu/SRL/live.html SRL would like to reserve MBONE bandwidth for one live video and audio steam. The performance will occur during one of the following times: Date Time (PST) Time (GMT) Event -------------------------------------------------------------------- 24 Nov 95 17:00-23:00 1:00-7:00* SRL Live Performance 25 Nov 95 17:00-23:00 1:00-7:00* SRL Live Performance 26 Nov 95 17:00-23:00 1:00-7:00* SRL Live Performance *GMT is on next day This information has also been inserted into the session director (sd) and posted to the MBONE Broadcast Schedule: http://www.msri.org:80/mbone/ Eric Paulos paulos@cs.berkeley.edu From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 21 23:18:26 1995 Received: from tweety.cs.berkeley.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 16:15:03 -0800 Received: from tweety.cs.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by tweety.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.11/8.3) with ESMTP id QAA07926; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 16:11:11 -0800 From: Larry Rowe Message-Id: <199511220011.QAA07926@tweety.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: mslade@ix.netcom.com, aagogino@euler.berkeley.edu, phred@violet.berkeley.edu, howard@info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU, gllavane@uclink.Berkeley.EDU, kurt@ampex.com, avz@eecs.Berkeley.EDU, martin@eecs.Berkeley.EDU, xcohen@garnet.berkeley.edu, tierney@george.lbl.gov, sccheung@gilan.eecs.berkeley.edu, jpjacob@cs.berkeley.edu, brauer@faslab.com, bagnet@george.lbl.gov, blattner@ocfkms.llnl.gov, al_moye@hp0000.desk.hp.com, plateau-group@tweety.cs.berkeley.edu, atarashi@tweety.cs.berkeley.edu, vchang@alumni.eecs.berkeley.edu, vetterligroup@lumiere.eecs.berkeley.edu, rem-conf@es.net, allcsdiv@cs.berkeley.edu cc: gbell@mojave.stanford.edu Subject: Multimedia seminar Wed 11/22 canceled! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 16:11:04 -0800 Gordon Bell is scheduled to speak at the Berkeley Multimedia and Graphics Seminar this week. Unfortunately, he has encountered a physical problem that precludes him from coming to Berkeley to give the seminar. Given the close proximity to Thanksgiving, I thought it best to cancel the seminar. Gordon will give a talk early next semester. Larry Rowe From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 22 05:05:37 1995 Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 02:05:03 -0800 Received: from ormail.intel.com (ormail.intel.com [134.134.192.3]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA07107 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 02:04:42 -0800 Received: from relay.hf.intel.com by ormail.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0tIC33-000UdVC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 02:05 PST Received: from ccm.hf.intel.com by relay.hf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0tIC33-000qDMC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 02:05 PST Original-Received: by ccm.hf.intel.com (ccmgate 3.2 #1) Wed, 22 Nov 95 02:05:01 PST PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:00:00 PST From: Peter Seeberg Message-ID: To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 22 10:01:29 1995 Received: from IETF.nri.reston.VA.US (actually ietf.cnri.reston.va.us) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 07:00:48 -0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa11377; 22 Nov 95 10:00 EST To: IETF-Announce:; Cc: RFC Editor Cc: Internet Architecture Board Cc: rem-conf@es.net From: IESG Secretary Subject: Protocol Action: RTP: A Transport Protocol for Real-Time Applications to Proposed Standard Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 09:59:59 -0500 Sender: scoya@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Message-ID: <9511221000.aa11377@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US> The IESG has approved the following two Internet-Drafts for publication as Proposed Standards: 1. RTP: A Transport Protocol for Real-Time Applications 2. RTP Profile for Audio and Video Conferences with Minimal Control These documents are the product of the Audio/Video Transport Working Group. The IESG contact person is Allison Mankin. Technical Summary RTP (Real-Time Transport protocol) provides end-to-end network transport functions suitable for applications transmitting real-time data, such as audio, video or simulation data, over multicast or unicast network services. RTP leaves resource reservation and quality-of-service to other mechanisms (such as the RSVP protocol). RTP provides mechanisms that facilitate the application-specific handling of timestamped data, both at user end-points and at intermediate application processing nodes, such as audio mixers. RTP uses a payload type field and format and application specific profile specifications to adapt its transport services to varied media. It is flexible in supporting the requirements of media. Profiles have been prepared for a wide variety of both proprietary and standard encodings (standards submissions are pending for CELLB, MPEG, JPEG, and the H.261 specification. The RTP Profile for Audio and Video Conferencing with Minimal Control specifies the details of RTP (payload format types and other parameters) for conferences that in particular do not have parameter negotiation, It lists the currently defined encodings and describes the method for registering new encodings with the IANA. The RTP data transport is augmented by a control protocol (RTCP) which has several functions: first, it provides a minimal session management facility. The IETF MMUSIC Working Group is currently developing a comprehensive session control protocol, but RTCP has been used for simple control with good success in the MBONE. Second, RTCP is designed to allow monitoring of the data delivery in a manner scalable to large multicast networks. Applications may use the Sender and Receiver report functions for control and adaptation, and additionally, network managers may monitor the reports in order to ensure that multicast routing and other network aspects of the multimedia application are functioning properly. RTP and RTCP were designed to be independent of the underlying transport and network layers. A typical use would be to run them over UDP/IP and IP multicast. Operation over UDP/IPv6 will be transparent. The protocol supports the use of RTP-level translators and mixers. This allows such functions as converting a 64 kbps audio conference to 9.6 kbps formats for transmission over low bandwidth links to residences. On the high end, it could support in future a function such as the composition of the video streams from multiple sites into one "virtual conference room" image. This aspect of the protocol thus supports interesting ways in which Internet multimedia may evolve. Working Group Summary The AVT Working group concurs in recommending the advancement of these specifications. Recently ISO JTC1 SC.29 has reviewed this specification and there is an active liaison effort from that body to AVT. Protocol Quality The protocol was reviewed for the IESG by the Transport Area Director, Allison Mankin, and by the Transport Area Directorate. Its Security Considerations and default methods were reviewed by Jeff Schiller, Security AD. There are already a number of interoperable implementations from this specification draft. From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 22 11:42:02 1995 Received: from hp1.online.apple.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 08:41:21 -0800 Received: by hp1.online.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA08644; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 08:41:09 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 08:41:09 -0800 From: Davidwfox@eworld.com Message-ID: <951122084108_19031754@hp1.online.apple.com> To: ucl-rem-conf-request@cs.ucl.ac.uk, rem-conf@es.net, rem-conf-request@es.net Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe greetings, I've been trying to get off this list for 3 weeks now. Could someone help. 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COMPUTER SKILLS Operating systems: UNIX, Windows-NT, MS-Windows, OS/2, Novell, MS-DOS. Hardware: IBM compatible PC (support and assembly). Languages: Over 6 years experience in C, C++, MSVC, 80x86 Assembler, Pascal, 8080 Assembler, BASIC. Protocols: IPX/SPX, TCP/IP, X.25, X.28. Databases: Informix SQL COMMUNICATION SKILLS I can speak English well. WORK EXPERIENCE 1991-present: ProgramBank Ltd., INIST Ltd. My responsibilities include design and implementation of communication software and solving problems (at assembler language level) of task-to-task communication. My programs (up to transport level in OSI model) designed for interbank transactions software, use modem-to-modem connections, IPX, TCP/IP, X.25, X.28 protocols. These programs are used by many banks and exchanges in Russia (Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange is one of them). I am now working on protocol (up to application level) for command exchange in Informix SQL programs. Currently I am an administrator at Novell servers (three to be accurate). EDUCATION 1986-92: MS in Computer Science (minor: Radio Engineering) Physical and Technical (PhysTech) Institute of Moscow, Dolgoprudny. Faculty of Radio Engineering and Cybernetics. 1983-85: High School of Physics and Mathematics under auspices of Novosibirsk State University My Diploma was based on work conducted during the two last years at PhysTech. The work was to make an external modem with V.25bis, V.23 and error correction (like V.42). I performed all required hardware and software design. The modems were produced and sold for several years. HONORS 1985 First Prize in All Russia Contest in Physics 1983 First Prize in All Siberia Contest in Physics From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 22 18:08:28 1995 Received: from agora.stm.it by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:07:45 -0800 Received: from netman.agora.stm.it (agora.stm.it [194.20.43.1]) by agora.stm.it (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA07677 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 23:38:18 GMT Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 23:38:18 GMT Message-Id: <199511222338.XAA07677@agora.stm.it> X-Sender: m.degregorio@hella.stm.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net From: Maurizio de Gregorio Subject: WWW and multicast Hello, the thesis I'm working about is regarding applications with enhanced version of browser like Mosaic. The idea is to realize interactive videoconferences using MPEG video coding in real-time. I'd like to know if there are some works about this subject. Thanks, Maurizio de Gregorio __________________________________________________ __________________ __ _______________ __/ /_ __ ____ ____ /_ __/____ ____ ____ _ / __ \_/ __ \ / / / \ / __ \ / __ \ _/ / / // ____// /_ / / / // /_/ // / / / /_/ /_/ \___/ \__//_/_/_/ \__,_//_/ /_/ Maurizio de Gregorio Via Filippo Corridoni, 10 50134 Firenze (ITALY) Tel: +39-55-486530 e-mail: m.degregorio@agora.stm.it __________________________________________________ From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 22 22:27:27 1995 Received: from mail.telstra.com.au by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 19:26:56 -0800 Received: from mail_gw.fwall.telecom.com.au(192.148.147.10) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma007789; Thu Nov 23 08:38:38 1995 Received: from samui.trl.oz.au(137.147.20.202) by mail_gw.telecom.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma010214; Thu Nov 23 14:24:51 1995 Received: (from liu@localhost) by samui.trl.oz.au (8.6.9/8.6.12) id OAA21195 for wtan@vtrlmel1; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 14:24:16 +1100 Received: from amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (amalfi.trl.OZ.AU [137.147.99.99]) by shiva.trl.OZ.AU (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA04890 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:46:57 +1100 From: <> Received: from mail_gw.fwall.telecom.com.au ([192.148.147.10]) by amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA27088 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:46:44 +1100 Received: from mail.telstra.com.au(192.148.160.10) by mail_gw.telecom.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma009083; Fri Nov 10 16:46:11 1995 Received: from gw2.att.com(192.20.239.134) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma025430; Fri Nov 10 11:04:32 1995 Received: from mtgbcs.mt.att.com (mtgzfs3-bgate.mt.att.com) by ig1.att.att.com id AA24264; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:40:24 EST Received: from ig1.att.att.com (proxy1.proxy.att.com) by mtgbcs.mt.att.com (5.0/EMS-1.2 sol2) id AA00391; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 21:43:16 -0500 Received: from att!smtpnotes.pictel.com by ig1.att.att.com id AA23709; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:39:35 EST Received: by gw2.att.com; Thu Nov 9 09:55:59 EST 1995 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA26702; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:53:55 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA20535; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:52:03 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15344; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:52:02 EST Message-Id: <9511091352.AA15344@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 42D355EC2F8EE9D78525626800644982; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:52:02 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf Original-From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 9 Nov 95 8:49:04 EDT Subject: H.323 audioconference today, 9 Nov, 11:00 Boston time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: Reminder: Here's the current lineup: Thursday, 9 Nov, +1-212-346-0364, reservation #1384246 Thursday, 16 Nov -- no meeting (SG15) Thursday, 23 Nov -- no meeting (SG15) Thursday, 30 Nov, +1-212-346-0388, reservation #1414603 Thursday, 14 Dec -- tentative mtg -- +1-212-346-0381, reservation #1414604 Thursday, 4 Jan, +1-212-346-0434, reservation #1415644 Thursday, 11 Jan, +1-212-346-0415, reservation #1415645 All audioconferences are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. The initial topic for today's call is the Q.931 proposal put forward by Dale Skran and posted last week to the reflector. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 23 00:36:38 1995 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 21:35:54 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA24790; Thu, 23 Nov 95 00:35:52 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA24935; Thu, 23 Nov 95 00:33:53 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16392; Thu, 23 Nov 95 00:33:52 EST Message-Id: <9511230533.AA16392@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 5DEBDA766394D39F8525627D001E541F; Thu, 23 Nov 95 05:33:50 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 23 Nov 95 0:34:05 EDT Subject: Next H.323 audioconference, 30 Nov, 11:00 Boston time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: SG15 is finishing it's meeting tomorrow. We'll meet to find out what happened, plus address timely topics during our next audioconference call on Thursday, 30 Nov. I have also set tentative meetings for 7 and 14 Dec, too. Here's the details: Thursday, 23 Nov -- no meeting (SG15 meeting in Geneva) Thursday, 30 Nov, +1-212-346-0388, reservation #1414603 Thursday, 7 Dec, -- tentative mtg -- +1-212-346-6140, reservation #1425201 Thursday, 14 Dec -- tentative mtg -- +1-212-346-0381, reservation #1414604 Thursday, 4 Jan, +1-212-346-0434, reservation #1415644 Thursday, 11 Jan, +1-212-346-0415, reservation #1415645 All audioconferences are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 23 01:44:07 1995 Received: from thoth.mch.sni.de by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:43:43 -0800 Received: from balla.mch.sni.de by thoth.mch.sni.de with SMTP id AA20199 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:43:41 +0100 Received: (from gme@localhost) by balla.mch.sni.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA04679 for rem-conf@es.net; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:45:46 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:45:46 +0100 From: Georg Memmesheimer MR PD251-DF Message-Id: <199511230645.HAA04679@balla.mch.sni.de> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: help Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5 help From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 23 04:42:44 1995 Received: from ps.sfc.wide.ad.jp by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:42:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ps.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.4Wbeta695100619) with ESMTP id SAA19784; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 18:41:45 +0900 Message-Id: <199511230941.SAA19784@ps.sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: mbone@ISI.EDU, rem-conf@es.net Subject: Session announce `Ryuichi Sakamoto Tour95 "D&L" with Daizaburo Harada Live at Nippon Budohkan' From: Makoto Niimi X-Mailer: Mew version 1.00.4 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 18:41:45 +0900 Sender: bignum@sfc.wide.ad.jp We'll present this event to you as following. Ryuichi Sakamoto Tour95 "D&L" with Daizaburo Harada Live at Nippon Budohkan Tokyo, Japan Time-Table Rehearsal from Nov. 30 16:00 JST (Nov. 30 7:00 UTC) till Nov. 30 17:00 JST (Nov. 30 8:00 UTC) Session (with TTL=127) Video (nv,32kbps*2=64kbps) Audio (GSM 17Kbps) Concert from Nov. 30 18:00 JST (Nov. 30 9:00 UTC) till Nov. 30 22:00 JST (Nov. 30 13:00 UTC) Session (with TTL=127) Video (nv,64kbps*2=128kbps) Audio (dvi4,32kbps) Information http://www.sdw.com/DandL/ In this mbone experiment, we will install temporary satellite station at the Nippon Budohkan. This satellite station will broadcast IP datagrams to several satellite stations of WIDE Network Operation Centers at 2Mbps. One station at the NOC relays nv/vat traffic to the MBONE. ----- Makoto Niimi, WIDE Project From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 23 04:45:24 1995 Received: from precept.com (actually hydra.precept.com) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:44:40 -0800 Received: from little-bear.precept.com by precept.com (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA01824; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:44:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:44:39 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Casner To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Protocol Action: RTP: A Transport Protocol for Real-Time Applications to Proposed Standard In-Reply-To: <9511221000.aa11377@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To the Audio/Video Transport Working Group: You may have noticed an announcement that we have been working toward for a long time: > The IESG has approved the following two Internet-Drafts for publication > as Proposed Standards: > > 1. RTP: A Transport Protocol for Real-Time Applications > > 2. RTP Profile for Audio and Video Conferences with Minimal Control > Please take a look at these drafts, and in particular, notice the sections with change bars in the .ps versions. These drafts incorporate a number of clarifications in the text based on comments during the (long) last call period, plus some additions that were discussed on this list over the past couple of months. I think there are no significant technical changes, but there are a couple of points I would like to bring to your attention: - The update_seq() algorithm in appendix 1 of the March RTP spec did not handle backward sequence number wrap-around properly. A new version is supplied in this draft. - Note the addition in section 8 on the loop/collision algorithm to point out that the algorithm depends upon both RTP and RTCP being sent from the same source port number. - In the profile spec, the encryption string-to-key mapping is specified. - Also in the profile, several static payload type assignments were removed as discussed here earlier. Note that revised JPEG and MPEG payload format specs have been posted as I-Ds, too. Please read these and comment. Last Call has been requested for the CellB spec, but I haven't seen it come through yet. And the H.261 spec will be reconsidered in its Last Call after some editorial changes are made. -- Steve From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 23 06:11:20 1995 Received: from cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 03:10:40 -0800 Received: (from lucia@localhost) by cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA06748; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:10:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199511231110.MAA06748@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> Subject: vic2.7a27/H261/Q~1 problems To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:10:35 +0100 (MET) From: Lucia Gradinariu Cc: mccanne@ee.lbl.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 406 While using vicbin-2.7a27-solaris2.4 on an SS20 with H261 on low-motion video (talking head or apparatus presentation) the block pattern is visible and very annoying when image quality is set to high (1-4). This effect disappears as soon as the subject begins to move. In fact the highest quality we may obtain is when Q is around 10. has anybody observed this behaviour? Lucia.Gradinariu@univ-lyon1.fr From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 23 07:06:09 1995 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 04:00:57 -0800 Received: from electre.inria.fr (electre.inria.fr [128.93.2.11]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA21309; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:00:06 +0100 (MET) Received: by electre.inria.fr; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:00:06 +0100 From: Christian DONOT Message-Id: <199511231200.AA03693@electre.inria.fr> Subject: Re: Session announce `Ryuichi Sakamoto Tour95 "D&L" with Daizaburo Harada To: bignum@wide.ad.jp (Makoto Niimi) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:00:06 +0100 (MET) Cc: mbone@ISI.EDU, rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: <199511230941.SAA19784@ps.sfc.wide.ad.jp> from "Makoto Niimi" at Nov 23, 95 06:41:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Quoting > Makoto Niimi wrote, > > We'll present this event to you as following. > > Ryuichi Sakamoto Tour95 "D&L" with Daizaburo Harada > Live at Nippon Budohkan Tokyo, Japan > > Time-Table > Rehearsal > from Nov. 30 16:00 JST (Nov. 30 7:00 UTC) > till Nov. 30 17:00 JST (Nov. 30 8:00 UTC) > > Session (with TTL=127) > Video (nv,32kbps*2=64kbps) > Audio (GSM 17Kbps) > > Concert > from Nov. 30 18:00 JST (Nov. 30 9:00 UTC) > till Nov. 30 22:00 JST (Nov. 30 13:00 UTC) > > Session (with TTL=127) > Video (nv,64kbps*2=128kbps) > Audio (dvi4,32kbps) > > > Information http://www.sdw.com/DandL/ > > In this mbone experiment, we will install temporary satellite station > at the Nippon Budohkan. This satellite station will broadcast IP > datagrams to several satellite stations of WIDE Network Operation > Centers at 2Mbps. One station at the NOC relays nv/vat traffic to > the MBONE. > > ----- > The transatlantic links are already full. I'm not sure that on the European's side, we need this kind of diffusion. Please, could'you put the ttl below 64. Best regards. Christian -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Christian Donot Direction of Research Promotion and its Transfer =+=+=+=+=+=+=+= * INRIA's Activities Demonstrations Manager (DPRT) * French Multicast Bone Co-ordinator (mbone-fr@inria.fr) (ARISTOTE) To get "mbone-fr" map : ftp anonymous from electre.inria.fr:pub/mbone ftp anonymous from ftp.inria.fr:network/mbone/map * To get "ivs" : (INRIA) ftp anonymous from zenon.inria.fr:rodeo/ivs/last_version http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/ivs.html * To get "telesia" : (Aristote) ftp anonymous from electre.inria.fr:pub/videoconf/last_version =+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Tel : +33 1 39 63 57 75 | INRIA/DPRT/ARISTOTE Fax : +33 1 39 63 55 34/53 30 | BP 105 Email : Christian.Donot@inria.fr | 78153 LE CHESNAY CEDEX : chd@inria.fr | FRANCE =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 23 08:26:30 1995 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 05:25:52 -0800 Received: from shrew.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:21:18 +0000 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: University College London, CS Dept. X-Phone: +44 171 419 3666 To: Lucia Gradinariu cc: rem-conf@es.net, mccanne@ee.lbl.gov Subject: Re: vic2.7a27/H261/Q~1 problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:10:35 +0100." <199511231110.MAA06748@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:21:08 +0000 Message-ID: <10565.817132868@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Sender: M.Handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk >While using vicbin-2.7a27-solaris2.4 on an SS20 with H261 on low-motion video >(talking head or apparatus presentation) the block pattern is visible and >very annoying when image quality is set to high (1-4). This effect disappears >as soon as the subject begins to move. In fact the highest quality we >may obtain is when Q is around 10. >has anybody observed this behaviour? Yes, I agree - there appears to be a bug there. This effect isn't visible with vic 2.6. Mark From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 23 14:34:28 1995 Received: from merlot.inria.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 11:33:46 -0800 Received: by merlot.inria.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA17794; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:33:29 +0100 Message-Id: <199511231933.UAA17794@merlot.inria.fr> To: rem-conf@es.net cc: Maurizio de Gregorio Subject: Re: WWW and multicast Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:33:27 +0100 From: Philipp Hoschka >Hello, >the thesis I'm working about is regarding applications with enhanced >version of browser like Mosaic. >The idea is to realize interactive videoconferences using MPEG video coding >in real-time. >I'd like to know if there are some works about this subject. We have integrated the INRIA videconferencing system (ivs) into the WWW. You can find more info under: http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/personnel/Thierry.Turletti/ivs-www.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Philipp Hoschka WWW: http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/personnel/hoschka/hoschka.html | INRIA-Rodeo hoschka@sophia.inria.fr | 2004, Route des Lucioles, BP 93 Tel:(+33) 93 65 79 84 | 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex Fax:(+33) 93 65 77 65 | France ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Nov 27 12:41:57 1995 Received: from tweety.cs.berkeley.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:41:23 -0800 Received: from tweety.cs.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by tweety.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.11/8.3) with ESMTP id JAA12526; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:37:01 -0800 From: Larry Rowe Message-Id: <199511271737.JAA12526@tweety.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: mslade@ix.netcom.com, aagogino@euler.berkeley.edu, phred@violet.berkeley.edu, howard@info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU, gllavane@uclink.Berkeley.EDU, kurt@ampex.com, avz@eecs.Berkeley.EDU, martin@eecs.Berkeley.EDU, xcohen@garnet.berkeley.edu, tierney@george.lbl.gov, sccheung@gilan.eecs.berkeley.edu, jpjacob@cs.berkeley.edu, brauer@faslab.com, bagnet@george.lbl.gov, blattner@ocfkms.llnl.gov, al_moye@hp0000.desk.hp.com, plateau-group@tweety.cs.berkeley.edu, atarashi@tweety.cs.berkeley.edu, vchang@alumni.eecs.berkeley.edu, vetterligroup@lumiere.eecs.berkeley.edu, rem-conf@es.net, allcsdiv@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: Berkeley Multimedia Seminar (11/27/95): A. Kovalick, HP Labs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:36:59 -0800 MULTMEDIA AND GRAPHICS SEMINAR (Wed November 29, 1995 12:30-2:00 PST 405 Soda Hall) The Fundamental Concepts of Media Servers Al Kovalick Video Communications Division of HP The Media Server is becoming a key element in broadband information delivery networks. This talk will discuss "Ohm's Laws" of Media Servers. To a large extent, these servers are based on principles that are independent of the underlying architecture. Seven principles will be developed that may be applied to the design of any media server or server system. In addition, the principles will be explained in light of the three most popular server architectures in use today. These being; (1) Massively Parallel Processing (MPP), (2) Traditional computer with large I/O bw, (3) Clustered media stream engines. The principles cover the areas of storage, bandwidth, FIFO requirements and rate adaptation, recursion, latency, switch bw and push/pull systems. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> See http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/298 for further information. This seminar will be broadcast on the Internet MBONE starting at 12:40. The Fujitsu Seminar room (405 Soda) has approximately 30 seats. Folks at Berkeley might want to attend the seminar by watching it on your workstation, if you can receive MBONE transmissions. From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Nov 27 17:36:51 1995 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:36:24 -0800 Received: from shrew.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:36:05 +0000 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: University College London, CS Dept. X-Phone: +44 171 419 3666 To: rem-conf@es.net cc: M.Handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk Subject: sdr Session Directory available Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:36:04 +0000 Message-ID: <2587.817511764@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Sender: M.Handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk An alpha release of sdr, a new session directory compliant with draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-01.{txt,ps} is now available as an alpha release in the mice/sdr directory on cs.ucl.ac.uk. Currently binaries are available for SunOS{4,5} OSF1/2.0 and Irix 5.3. HPUX, linux and BSDI should hopefully follow shortly. Note: - this is an alpha release - there are sure to be bugs! - sdr is *not* compatible with sd - though a relay from sd to sdr should be available shortly - there's no decent manual page yet (though there is a fair amount of built in help) - source will be available shortly, but if you want to port it to a new platform now, let me know - the UK-US link is *very* slow at the moment - a US mirror site would be useful! sdr will read a .sdr.tcl file on startup. Don't just copy your .sd.tcl file to .sdr.tcl - some things are done differently. If you live in an admin scope zone, sdr can support this. Put an add_admin command in your .sdr.tcl file: add_admin Thus, for the UK, which has a scope boundary 239.128.16.0/24, you'd add: add_admin UK 239.128.16.255 9874 239.128.16.0 24 47 This is a horrible way to configure this, and will be replaced in due course! If you want to use sdr to record sessions, you'll need to write a script. To record a session sdr execs record_session and feeds the relevant SDP description to it on stdin. Suggestions for a better generic record interface would be gratefully accepted! The to-do list is still very long, but hopefully this addresses some of the things on the wish list! Mark From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Nov 27 20:47:11 1995 Received: from crazy-horse.uoregon.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:45:03 -0800 Received: (from meyer@localhost) by crazy-horse.uoregon.edu (8.7.1/8.7.Gamma.1) id RAA01952; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:44:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199511280144.RAA01952@crazy-horse.uoregon.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: Mark Handley cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: sdr Session Directory available In-reply-to: m.handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk's message of Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:36:04 +0000. <2587.817511764@cs.ucl.ac.uk> X-Uri: "http://ns.uoregon.edu/~meyer" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:44:16 -0800 From: "David M. Meyer 503/346-1747" Mark, I'm putting a mirror of ftp://cs.ucl.ac.uk/mice/sdr on ftp://ftp.uoregon.edu/pub/src/multicast/sdr Dave From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 03:43:17 1995 Received: from IETF.nri.reston.VA.US (actually ietf.cnri.reston.va.us) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:42:35 -0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa15291; 27 Nov 95 9:52 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce:; cc: rem-conf@es.net From: Internet-Drafts@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-mpeg-01.txt Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 09:52:51 -0500 Sender: cclark@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Message-ID: <9511270952.aa15291@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US> --NextPart A Revised Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload Format for MPEG1/MPEG2 Video Author(s) : D. Hoffman, G. Fernando, S. Kleiman, V. Goyal Filename : draft-ietf-avt-mpeg-01.txt Pages : 12 Date : 11/22/1995 This draft describes a packetization scheme for MPEG video and audio streams. The scheme proposed can be used to transport such a video or audio flow over the transport protocols supported by RTP. Two approaches are described. The first is designed to support maximum interoperability with MPEG System environments. The second is designed to provide maximum compatibility with other RTP-encapsulated media streams and future conference control work of the IETF. Internet-Drafts are available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-avt-mpeg-01.txt". 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ds.internic.net" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19951122114105.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avt-mpeg-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-avt-mpeg-01.txt"; site="ds.internic.net"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19951122114105.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 03:43:41 1995 Received: from IETF.nri.reston.VA.US (actually ietf.cnri.reston.va.us) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:42:36 -0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa15307; 27 Nov 95 9:52 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce:; cc: rem-conf@es.net From: Internet-Drafts@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-jpeg-02.txt Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 09:52:55 -0500 Sender: cclark@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Message-ID: <9511270952.aa15307@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US> --NextPart A Revised Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload Format for JPEG-compressed Video Author(s) : L. Berc, W. Fenner, R. Frederick, S. McCanne Filename : draft-ietf-avt-jpeg-02.txt Pages : 14 Date : 11/22/1995 This draft describes the RTP payload format for JPEG video streams. The packet format is optimized for real-time video streams where codec parameters change rarely from frame to frame. This document is a product of the Audio-Video Transport working group within the Internet Engineering Task Force. Comments are solicited and should be addressed to the working group's mailing list at rem-conf@es.net and/or the author(s). Internet-Drafts are available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-avt-jpeg-02.txt". 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Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e., documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. For questions, please mail to Internet-Drafts@cnri.reston.va.us. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ds.internic.net" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19951122114716.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avt-jpeg-02.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-avt-jpeg-02.txt"; site="ds.internic.net"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19951122114716.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 06:40:04 1995 Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:39:15 -0800 Received: from dxcoms.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch id AA09802; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:39:11 +0100 Received: by dxcoms.cern.ch; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/28Jul95-0949AM) id AA03966; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:39:10 +0100 Message-Id: <9511281139.AA03966@dxcoms.cern.ch> Subject: CERN ATLAS Meeting Replay To: rem-conf@es.net (rem-conf Distribution List) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:39:10 +0100 (MET) From: Christian Isnard - CERN/CN/CS Cc: onions@mail.cern.ch (Chris Onions), omartin@dxcoms.cern.ch (Olivier Martin) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23 DXCOMS1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 444 CERN would like to perform an MBONE replay of the next ATLAS Plenary Meeting on the following dates: Mon. 4th Dec. from 17:00 to 21:00 (GMT+1) (Replay of Thu. 30th Nov. morning) Tue. 5th Dec. from 17:00 to 21:00 (GMT+1) (Replay of Thu. 30th Nov. afternoon) Wed. 6th Dec. from 17:00 to 21:00 (GMT+1) (Replay of Fri. 1st Dec. morning) In case of clashes with other MBONE sessions please contact: -- CERN CN/CS From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 08:11:54 1995 Received: from relay.cs.tcd.ie by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 05:11:21 -0800 Received: from cs.tcd.ie (actually wilde.cs.tcd.ie) by relay.cs.tcd.ie with SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:11:08 +0000 To: rem-conf@es.net cc: Donal.OMahony@cs.tcd.ie Subject: Intensive Therapy - Rock Concert Broadcast from Dublin,Ireland Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:11:06 +0000 From: Donal O'Mahony We plan to broadcast a concert from 'The Mean Fiddler' in Dublin, via an ISDN link to Trinity College, where it will be relayed onto the MBONE. The concert will feature a number of Dublin Bands, and we hope to have a guest appearance >from at least one Internationally famous Irish artist! if possible, we would like to interact with viewers in different parts of the world, so if you expect be be watching and have video hardware, or are willing to write on the whiteboard, we would like to hear from you. The bandwidth of the session will be limited (by ISDN) to 128Kbps, and the broadcast will take place on: Saturday December 2nd from 21:00-03:00 GMT i.e. starts at 16:00 US East Coast, 13:00 US West Coast, Sunday 09:00 in Sydney more details can be found on http://www.cs.tcd.ie/omahony/mbone-gig/concept.html Regards, Donal O'Mahony Networks & Telecommunications Research Group Trinity College Dublin Ireland From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 10:06:37 1995 Received: from nahrstedt.cs.uiuc.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:06:01 -0800 Received: (from klara@localhost) by nahrstedt.cs.uiuc.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA10100; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:05:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:05:09 -0600 (CST) From: Klara Nahrstedt Message-Id: <199511281505.JAA10100@nahrstedt.cs.uiuc.edu> To: iesg-secretary@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Original-To: IETF-Announce:;;;@es.net;, iesg-secretary@CNRI.Reston.VA.US PP-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding To line Subject: Re: Protocol Action: RTP: A Transport Protocol for Real-Time Applications to Proposed Standard Cc: iab@isi.edu, rem-conf@es.net, rfc-editor@isi.edu From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 13:19:09 1995 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:18:35 -0800 Received: from shrew.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:14:48 +0000 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: University College London, CS Dept. X-Phone: +44 171 419 3666 cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: sdr Session Directory available In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:36:04 GMT." <2587.817511764@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:14:43 +0000 Message-ID: <5982.817582483@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Sender: M.Handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk >An alpha release of sdr, a new session directory compliant with >draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-01.{txt,ps} is now available as an alpha >release in the mice/sdr directory on cs.ucl.ac.uk. > >Currently binaries are available for SunOS{4,5} OSF1/2.0 and Irix 5.3. >Note: > - this is an alpha release - there are sure to be bugs! Of course, there were :-( Thanks to those who pointed them out! Another alpha release is now available. The changes are: 2.1a4 28 Nov 95 mhandley TK_LIBRARY dependency had found its was back in with tk4.0 - removed again Paste to description box tk4.0 bug fixed Editing of ttl scoped sessions reset ttl - now fixed Stupid calendar month wrapping bug fixed Apologies to anyone who pulled yesterday's version. Mark From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 14:57:24 1995 Received: from merlot.inria.fr by osi-east.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:56:30 -0800 Received: by merlot.inria.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA21694; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:55:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199511281955.UAA21694@merlot.inria.fr> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: BOF "Real-Time Multimedia Web" at Boston WWW conf Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:55:07 +0100 From: Philipp Hoschka BOF ANNOUNCEMENT "Towards a Real-Time Multimedia Web" "Birds of a Feather" Session at the 4th International W3 Conference, Boston Send mail to hoschka@sophia.inria.fr if you want to make a 5-minute presentation. Purpose There is large interest today in integrating real time data transmission into the Web. The goal of this BOF is discussing what changes to the Web are required. The requirements of today's applications such as Internet telephones and videophones will be discussed, as well as requirements for more advanced applications such as "narrowcast" TV services, games or conferencing systems. Agenda Below is a list of topics that we plan to discuss. Additional topics may be added before the meeting, and attendees will be encouraged to bring up other relevant issues. * How do people today use the Web for real-time services ? (State of the Art) * What role should the Web play in real-time applications ? o a uniform user interface only ? o a resource directory only , e.g. white/yellow pages for Internet Telephony ? o full rendering of annotated multimedia streams ? * What changes to current Web standards are required ? (Agenda for standards work) URL Do we need a new URL scheme, or should real-time addresses be transferred in documents with special MIME-tags ? HTTP Transmission of real-time data within HTTP is not practical today (to see why, check out the videos at Hollywood Online Trailers). A mapping onto a non-TCP protocol is required. UDP plus IETF's RTP appears to be a viable candidate. HTML The synchronisation different media streams (e.g. an audio annotation with the corresponding image) may require new HTML elements. Who should attend The BOF should bring together people from academia and industry interested into enhancing the Web to a real-time multimedia service. You are invited to give a short presentation (five minutes). If you are interested, please send mail to hoschka@sophia.inria.fr. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Philipp Hoschka WWW: http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/personnel/hoschka/hoschka.html | INRIA-Rodeo hoschka@sophia.inria.fr | 2004, Route des Lucioles, BP 93 Tel:(+33) 93 65 79 84 | 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex Fax:(+33) 93 65 77 65 | France ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 14:58:07 1995 Received: from merlot.inria.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:57:34 -0800 Received: by merlot.inria.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA21704; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:57:23 +0100 Message-Id: <199511281957.UAA21704@merlot.inria.fr> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: URL for "Real-Time Multimedia Web" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:57:22 +0100 From: Philipp Hoschka sorry, I forgot this: http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/personnel/hoschka/bof.html -Philipp From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 21:24:09 1995 Received: from viipuri.nersc.gov by osi-east.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:23:42 -0800 Received: by viipuri.nersc.gov (4.1/ESnet-1.2) id AA00332; Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:23:41 PST Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:23:41 PST From: ari@es.net (Ari Ollikainen) Message-Id: <9511290223.AA00332@viipuri.nersc.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: NV + VAT on a CU-SeeMe reflector Misaddressed... ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From evansjon@liverpool.ac.uk Fri Nov 24 06:40:44 1995 From: "Mr J.C. Evans" Subject: NV + VAT on a CU-SeeMe reflector To: rem-conf-request@es.net Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 14:04:31 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1484 Hello, I hope someone here can help. We are atempting to create a conference by mixing NV / VAT and CU-SeeMe (V0.70b1 running on a PC) clients on a reflector. Although we are having no problem with the various video feeds, we are not having much luck this the audio streams. The problem is the VAT clients can hear each other (via the CU-SeeMe reflector), and the CU-SeeMe clients can hear each other, but we just get gross clipping and missing audio frames when we talk between system. What audio formats / buffer sizes should I be using on the VAT and Cu-SeeMe audio setups ? Is this a problem with the current PC version ? Do Mac clients have the same problem ? If it is a problem is the current PC version, has it been solved in the new release (V0.81b ?) coming out next week ? And can IVS be made to work with a Cu-SeeMe reflector ? Many thanks in advance, Jonathan ============================================================================= UK School Resources Home Page http://www.liv.ac.uk/~evansjon/home.html Jonathan Evans Department of Electrical Engineering and Electronics The University of Liverpool E-Mail: evansjon@liv.ac.uk PO Box 147 Fax: (+44)-(0)151-794-4540 LIVERPOOL L69 3BX Tel: (+44)-(0)151-794-2000 United Kingdom (UK) Ext.4609 ============================================================================= ----- End Included Message ----- From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Nov 28 21:27:15 1995 Received: from viipuri.nersc.gov by osi-east.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:26:43 -0800 Received: by viipuri.nersc.gov (4.1/ESnet-1.2) id AA00335; Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:26:42 PST Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:26:42 PST From: ari@es.net (Ari Ollikainen) Message-Id: <9511290226.AA00335@viipuri.nersc.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Draft Multicast Schedule for Dallas Cc: scoya@cnri.reston.va.us Sent to rem-conf-request by mistake (I hope)... ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From scoya@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Mon Nov 27 21:46:09 1995 To: rem-conf-request@es.net Subject: Draft Multicast Schedule for Dallas Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 16:06:00 -0500 From: Steve Coya Content-Length: 2948 Greetings, Here's the draft schedule. I'll be posting to the IETG list once I verify my math is correct (US CST vs GMT :-) Steve ================================================================= Following is the tentative schedule of plenary meetings and working group sessions to be transmitted; to interpret the acronyms, see the agenda (available via FTP from ds.internic.net as /ietf/0mtg-agenda.txt). It is possible that this schedule will be modified. MULTICAST GUIDE Note that times are in US Central Standard Tine (CST). UTC (aka GMT) also provided. MONDAY 0900-0930 0930-1130 1300-1500 1530-1730 1930-2200 (UTC) 1500-1530 1530-1730 1900-2100 2130-2330 0130-0400 ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+============+ CHAN 1 |intro plenary| mmusic | poised95| raidmib | mboneng | ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+============+ CHAN 2 | " | http | rsvp | mmnet | tcpfix | ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+============+ TUESDAY 0900-1130 1300-1500 1530-1730 (UTC) 1500-1730 1900-2100 2130-2330 ==========+=============+=============+==========+ CHAN 1 | ipngwg | poised95 | intserv | ==========+=============+=============+==========+ CHAN 2 | sdr | idmr | dnsevolve| ==========+=============+=============+==========+ WEDNESDAY 0900-1130 1300-1500 1530-1730 1930-2200 (UTC) 1500-1730 1900-2100 2130-2330 0130-0300 ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+ CHAN 1 | mmusic | rps | rtfm | iab | ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+ CHAN 2 | cidrd | idmr | rsvp | mixer | ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+ THURSDAY 0900-1130 1300-1500 1530-1630 1630-1830 (UTC) 1500-1730 1900-2100 2130-2230 2230-0030 ==========+=============+=============+==============+============+ CHAN 1 | tsvdir | ipngwg |tech. plenary |open plenary| ==========+=============+=============+==============+============+ CHAN 2 | vac | rps | " | " | ==========+=============+=============+==============+============+ There will be no multicasting of sessions on Friday, December 8 1995. Each day's program may also be replayed by tape delay from: 2330 (UTC): 0530 Advice for remote participants: Please keep your microphones muted and your video transmissions disabled during the plenaries and working group sessions, unless or until invited to respond by the chair of the session. Vat users can disable reception of accidental sources of audio multicasts (such as people who forget to mute their mics) by clicking in the box next to that source's name. ----- End Included Message ----- From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 29 00:39:18 1995 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:38:47 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA25082; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:38:38 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA23801; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:36:36 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04737; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:36:35 EST Message-Id: <9511290536.AA04737@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id DEE41CC37D14D5E8852562830018BDA2; Wed, 29 Nov 95 05:36:33 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 28 Nov 95 23:33:11 EDT Subject: Next H.323 audioconference, 30 Nov, 11:00 Boston time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: Just a reminder that our next audioconference will occur this Thursday at the usual time. First topic is to review the events which transpired the past two weeks at the SG15 meeting in Geneva. Then on to conversation about topics of interest to the H.323 and H.22z editors, Gary Thom and Dale Skran. I have also set tentative meetings for 7 and 14 Dec, too. Here are the details: Thursday, 30 Nov, +1-212-346-0388, reservation #1414603 Thursday, 7 Dec, -- tentative mtg -- +1-212-346-6140, reservation #1425201 Thursday, 14 Dec -- tentative mtg -- +1-212-346-0381, reservation #1414604 Thursday, 4 Jan, +1-212-346-0434, reservation #1415644 Thursday, 11 Jan, +1-212-346-0415, reservation #1415645 All audioconferences are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 29 04:29:54 1995 Received: from ps.sfc.wide.ad.jp by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:29:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ps.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.4Wbeta695100619) with ESMTP id SAA19249; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:21:27 +0900 Message-Id: <199511290921.SAA19249@ps.sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: Christian.Donot@inria.fr Cc: mbone@ISI.EDU, rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Session announce `Ryuichi Sakamoto Tour95 "D&L" with Daizaburo Harada From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPzdIfkA/GyhC?= Makoto Niimi In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:00:06 +0100 (MET)" References: <199511231200.AA03693@electre.inria.fr> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.00.4 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:21:27 +0900 Sender: bignum@sfc.wide.ad.jp From: Christian DONOT Subject: Re: Session announce `Ryuichi Sakamoto Tour95 "D&L" with Daizaburo Harada Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:00:06 +0100 (MET) > > We'll present this event to you as following. > > > > Ryuichi Sakamoto Tour95 "D&L" with Daizaburo Harada > > Live at Nippon Budohkan Tokyo, Japan > > > The transatlantic links are already full. I'm not sure that on the > European's side, we need this kind of diffusion. > Please, could'you put the ttl below 64. We will be using a single channel for nv, at 64Kbps. The ttl for nv will be 95. The reason why we are making this 95 instead of 64 is because at 64, some areas even within Japan cannot be reached. Best regards. ----- Makoto Niimi, WIDE Project From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 29 12:45:16 1995 Received: from fnal.fnal.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:44:38 -0800 Received: from munin.fnal.gov by FNAL.FNAL.GOV (PMDF V4.3-12 #3998) id <01HY7Q4G6ESG002JOM@FNAL.FNAL.GOV>; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:44:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from LOCALHOST.fnal.gov by munin.fnal.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1-m) id AA27930; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:42:55 CST Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:42:51 -0600 From: Matt Crawford Subject: Fermilab/CDF Supercomputing 95 session Sender: crawdad@munin.fnal.gov To: rem-conf@es.net Cc: Vyto Grigaliunas Reply-to: Vyto Grigaliunas Message-id: <9511291742.AA27930@munin.fnal.gov> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The CDF collaboration will be running a demo of their remote control room at Supercomputing '95 December 4-8. Because of conflicting events on the MBONE that week, we will multicast only a subset of the audio and video sources, and only within ESNET. (That includes whatever sites tunnel to ESNET with threshold < 63.) Questions? Write to Vyto Grigaliunas . _________________________________________________________ Matt Crawford crawdad@fnal.gov Fermilab PGP: D5 27 83 7A 25 25 7D FB 09 3C BA 33 71 C4 DA 6A From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 29 20:38:38 1995 Received: from moon (actually moon.net.edu.cn) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:37:53 -0800 Received: by moon (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07976; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:32:23 +0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:32:23 +0800 From: cheng@moon.bjnet.edu.cn (Yan Cheng) Message-Id: <9511301332.AA07976@moon> Content-Type: text Apparently-To: rem-conf@es.net sub From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Nov 29 23:08:20 1995 Received: from IETF.nri.reston.VA.US (actually ietf.cnri.reston.va.us) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:07:38 -0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03097; 29 Nov 95 19:16 EST To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Revised Dallas IETF Multicast Schedule Date: Wed, 29 Nov 95 19:15:55 -0500 From: Steve Coya Message-ID: <9511291916.aa03097@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US> Dallas IETF Multicast Guide - DRAFT (as of 11/29/95) Following is the tentative schedule of plenary meetings and working group sessions to be transmitted; to interpret the acronyms, see the agenda (available via FTP from ds.internic.net as /ietf/0mtg-agenda.txt). It is possible that this schedule will be modified. MULTICAST GUIDE Note that times are in US Central Standard Tine (CST). UTC (aka GMT) also provided. MONDAY 0900-0930 0930-1130 1300-1500 1530-1730 1930-2200 (UTC) 1500-1530 1530-1730 1900-2100 2130-2330 0130-0400 ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+============+ CHAN 1 |intro plenary| tcpfix | poised95| aft | mboneng | ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+============+ CHAN 2 | " | http | rsvp | mmnet | http | ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+============+ TUESDAY 0900-1130 1300-1500 1530-1730 (UTC) 1500-1730 1900-2100 2130-2330 ==========+=============+=============+==========+ CHAN 1 | ipngwg | poised95 | intserv | ==========+=============+=============+==========+ CHAN 2 | sdr | idmr | dnsevolve| ==========+=============+=============+==========+ WEDNESDAY 0900-1130 1300-1500 1530-1730 1930-2200 (UTC) 1500-1730 1900-2100 2130-2330 0130-0300 ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+ CHAN 1 | mmusic | rps | mobileip | iab | ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+ CHAN 2 | cidrd | idmr | rsvp | mixer | ==========+=============+=============+==========+=============+ THURSDAY 0900-1130 1300-1500 1530-1630 1630-1830 (UTC) 1500-1730 1900-2100 2130-2230 2230-0030 ==========+=============+=============+==============+============+ CHAN 1 | tsvdir | ipngwg |tech. plenary |open plenary| ==========+=============+=============+==============+============+ CHAN 2 | vac | rps | " | " | ==========+=============+=============+==============+============+ There will be no multicasting of sessions on Friday, December 8 1995. Each day's program may also be replayed by tape delay from: 2330 (UTC): 0530 Advice for remote participants: Please keep your microphones muted and your video transmissions disabled during the plenaries and working group sessions, unless or until invited to respond by the chair of the session. Vat users can disable reception of accidental sources of audio multicasts (such as people who forget to mute their mics) by clicking in the box next to that source's name. From Rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 30 00:54:33 1995 Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:53:56 -0800 Received: by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA29140; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:53:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:53:51 -0500 From: MsMegan@aol.com Message-ID: <951130005349_120678069@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: Rem-conf@es.net cc: Videophone@es.net Subject: Fwd: RFI on group video conferencing This is a great book about videoconferencing!!!! Anyone that has anything to do with this industry, should have a copy on their desk!! PS: I have never seen it for $22.95 anywhere. Megan --------------------- Forwarded message: From: GVSI@aol.com To: videophone@es.net, air@tiac.net Date: 95-11-28 00:07:04 EST Will, A great source of information on videoconferencing for the new user is the book "Videoconferencing: The Whole Picture" by Toby Trowt-Bayard. This book is a videoconferencing systems and network buyers guide. It will help you understand all aspects of videoconferencing, incl: *Videoconferencing systems from boardroom to desktop, hardware and software, the players and their positions *Applications *Buliding a credible business case for videoconferencing * Coding, compression and propriety algorithms * How to develop a videoconferencing REF, including hundreds of questions that should not be overlooked during the procurement process. * Much more!! Global Videoconferencing Solutions is currently offering this book for $22.95 on sale until Dec. 24th. If you are intrested in this book or any of the Computer Telephony Books that we offer please give us a call at 1-800-909-4874 or send us an email at GVSI@aol.com. We also carry a full line of discounted videoconferencing equipment from all of the major manufactures. Thanks, Jim Hoover Director of Sales ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------- Forwarded Message: Subj: RFI on group video conferencing Date: 95-11-22 00:15:55 EST From: air@tiac.net (TIAC CUSTOMER) Sender: videophone-request@es.net To: videophone@es.net (NewsGroup comp.dcom.videoconf) I am looking for an overview of the types of group videoconferencing systems that are available. We are a small company with 5 sites in the US and would like to be able to videoconference across three sites. I'm looking for pointers to web sites or magazine articles written for dummies (me) on the topic. Thanks in advance for any help. Please e-mail me with your responses. Will ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 30 11:14:23 1995 Received: from lpsmail.ksc.nasa.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 08:13:56 -0800 Received: from tenet.ksc.nasa.gov (smtpgw [163.206.51.100]) by lpsmail.ksc.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA04114 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:13:46 -0500 Received: by tenet.ksc.nasa.gov with Microsoft Mail id <30BE023F@tenet.ksc.nasa.gov>; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:13:03 PST From: "Kyramarios, Steve N" To: Rem-Conf Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 10:24:00 PST Message-ID: <30BE023F@tenet.ksc.nasa.gov> Encoding: 1 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 subscribe From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 30 14:33:33 1995 Received: from decu13.triumf.ca by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:33:02 -0800 Received: by decu13.triumf.ca (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04219; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:32:56 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:32:56 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Daviel To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Odd UDP ports in VIC 2.6 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have binaries of VIC 2.6 for Linux and SGI. If I (or sd) start vic with an odd port number, eg. vic 224.2.238.250/45559 it loses bit0 and starts up as 224.2.238.250/45558, and doesn't see the transmission. Is this a general problem, or am I doing something wrong? Andrew Daviel email: advax@triumf.ca TRIUMF voice: 604-222-7376 4004 Wesbrook Mall fax: 604-222-7307 Vancouver BC http://andrew.triumf.ca/~andrew Canada V6T 2A3 49D14.7N 123D13.6W From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 30 15:07:46 1995 Received: from cayenne.lcs.mit.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:02:30 -0800 Received: by cayenne.lcs.mit.edu; id AA02070; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:02:08 -0500 Message-Id: <9511302002.AA02070@cayenne.lcs.mit.edu> To: Andrew Daviel Cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Odd UDP ports in VIC 2.6 In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:32:56 -0800. Reply-To: turletti@cayenne.lcs.mit.edu Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:02:08 -0500 From: turletti@cayenne.lcs.mit.edu X-Mts: smtp >I have binaries of VIC 2.6 for Linux and SGI. >If I (or sd) start vic with an odd port number, eg. >vic 224.2.238.250/45559 >it loses bit0 and starts up as 224.2.238.250/45558, >and doesn't see the transmission. RTPv2 specifies to use even port number for RTP stream and the next higher (odd) port number for RTCP stream. Thierry From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 30 20:31:44 1995 Received: from orion.tamu.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:31:13 -0800 Received: (from daved@localhost) by orion.tamu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA04821 for rem-conf@es.net; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 01:30:50 GMT From: Dave Duchscher Message-Id: <9511301930.ZM4819@orion.tamu.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:30:44 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Texas A&M University Bonfire Broadcast... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii TAMU intends to multicast out the burning of this year bonfire on Friday Dec 1, 1995 from 2000-2100 CST. Audio will be on 224.2.184.101 port 60000 id 2000 Fmt: pcm2 Video will be on 224.2.184.100 port 60100 id 2100 Fmt: nv (RTPv1) 128kb/s. Since this is really the first time we have broadcast anything out on mbone, I will really like to here from people about the above settings. Please send any comments and complaints to me at Dave.Duchscher@net.tamu.edu. I will also be available durning the show for problems (lowering bandwidth, etc.) that may come up. I apologize for the extreme late notice. This aspect of this event was dropped on the floor and was not noticed until this moment. For information on this event, please refer to -- Dave Duchscher CIS Network Project Network Analyst Texas A&M University From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Nov 30 20:52:34 1995 Received: from elaine41.Stanford.EDU by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:51:59 -0800 Received: (from mandami@localhost) by elaine41.Stanford.EDU (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA04495 for rem-conf@es.net; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:51:58 -0800 (PST) From: Meng-Day Yu Message-Id: <199512010151.RAA04495@elaine41.Stanford.EDU> Subject: MBone tools on the PC To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:51:58 -3200 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is VIC, VAT, NV, or mrouted available on the PC? What O/S do I need to run to support these software. Thanks. 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