From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 03 16:03:46 1996 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:03:16 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA13189; Wed, 3 Jan 96 16:03:14 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA29881; Wed, 3 Jan 96 16:00:55 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01151; Wed, 3 Jan 96 16:00:55 EST Message-Id: <9601032100.AA01151@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id A2406A25935746DF852562A600724AAD; Wed, 3 Jan 96 21:00:53 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 3 Jan 96 15:50:04 EDT Subject: Next H.323 audioconference Thursday, 4 Jan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: The next H.323 audioconference will be held tomorrow, 4 January. Those interested in contributing to the shape of the H.323 standard are encouraged to join these IMTC-sponsored audio conference calls. The current lineup is: Thursday, 4 Jan, +1-212-346-0434, reservation #1415644 Tuesday, 9 Jan, +1-212-346-0348, reservation #1488895 Thursday, 11 Jan, +1-212-346-0415, reservation #1415645 All audioconferences are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 03 16:31:04 1996 Received: from cerc.wvu.edu (actually cathedral.cerc.wvu.edu) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:30:27 -0800 Received: from anawalt (anawalt.cerc.wvu.edu) by cerc.wvu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0:RAL-041790) id AA03627; Wed, 3 Jan 96 16:30:23 EST From: alsalqan@cerc.wvu.edu (Yahya Alsalqan) Received: by anawalt (5.x//ident-1.0) id AA12263; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:30:19 -0500 Message-Id: <9601032130.AA12263@anawalt> Subject: COMPSAC96 : CFP To: lin@horn.el.yuntech.edu.tw (Longsong Lin) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:30:18 -0500 (EST) Cc: rem-conf@es.net, lin@horn.el.yuntech.edu.tw In-Reply-To: <9512220417.AA01145@horn.el.yuntech.edu.tw> from "Longsong Lin" at Dec 22, 95 12:17:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Call for Papers and Panel Session Proposals COMPSAC 96 The Twentieth Annual International Computer Software and Application Conference Conference: August 21-23, 1996 Professional Development Seminars: August 19-20, 1996 Sheraton Walker Hill, Seoul, Korea This conference is a major international forum for researchers, practitioners, managers, and policy makers interested in computer software and applications as well as software industry. Original papers and panel session proposals on various research and practical aspects, as well as future trend, are invited. It is expected that experts and leaders from industry, academia and governments, will participate in the program. The following topics are examples of sessions planned for the conference. To facilitate the presentation of timely important results from the industry, papers with presentation material only are also considered by the conference. * Software-Development and Maintenance Paradigms and Environments * Quality Assurance, Process Improvement and Maturity Models * Software Reliability, Security and Safety * Risk Assessment and Management of Large-Scale Software Projects * Re-engineering, Reverse engineering, Reuse and Customization * Software Metrics and Modeling * Software Development for Distributed and Parallel Processing Systems * Co-design of Hardware and Software for Application Specific Systems + Interoperability in Systems and Tools * Large-Scale Software System Integration * Formal Methods * AI Tools and Techniques * Data and Knowledge Bases * Computer-Aided Support for Document Preparation * Advances in CASE * Interactive Computing and Groupware * Multimedia Systems and Virtual Reality * Information Super Highway * Software Engineering Education * Applications: Government Services, Telecommunications, Banking Systems, Health Care, Entertainment, Consumer Electronics * Industry Trends: Downsizing, OutSourcing, Off-Shore Software Support * Legal and Social Issues of Computer Software INFORMATION FOR AUTHORS OF PAPERS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PROCEEDINGS Mail six copies of an original (not submitted or published elsewhere) paper (double-spaced) of 3000-5000 words. Include the title of the paper, the name and affiliation of each author, a 150-word abstract and no more that 8 keywords. The name, position, address, telephone number, and if possible, fax number and e-mail address of the author responsible for correspondence of the paper must be included. INFORMATION FOR AUTHORS PROVIDING PRESENTATION MATERIAL ONLY The presentation material of all accepted papers in this category will appear in a bound conference record. Mail six copies of an original paper with the title and a 300-world abstract to the program chair. Include the name, position, address, telephone number, and if possible, fax number and e-mail address of the author responsible for the correspondence of the presentation. INFORMATION FOR PANEL ORGANIZERS Send six copies of panel proposals to the Program Chair. Include the title, a 150-word scope statement, proposed session chair and panelists and their affiliations and locations, the organizer's affiliation, address, telephone and fax number, and e-mail address. IMPORTANT DEADLINES * January 12, 1996: All papers and panel proposals due * February 5, 1996: Panel organizers notified of acceptance * March 1, 1996: Organizers of accepted panel proposals provide final information on session chairs and panelists * March 20, 1996: Authors notified of acceptance * May 10, 1996: Camera-ready copies of accepted papers and panelist position papers to be included in the conference processing due * July 8, 1996: Camera-copies of presentation material of accepted papers to be included in the conference record due Submit papers to Carl Chang, PC Co-chair (For authors residing outside Asia) Department of EECS (M/C 154) 1120 SEO University of Illinois at Chicago 851 South Morgan Street Chicago, IL 60607-7053, USA. Phone: 1-312-996-4860 Fax: 1-312-413-1386 E-mail: ckchang@uic.edu Suk Ho Lee, PC Co-chair (For authors residing in Asia) Department of Computer Engineering Seoul National University Seoul, Korea 151-742 Phone: 82-2-880-7293 Fax: 82-2-886-7589 E-mail: shlee@snucom.snu.ac.kr For further information, please contact Stephen S. Yau COMPSAC Standing Committee Chair Computer Science and Engineering Department Arizona State University Tyler Mall - GWC 206 Tempe, AZ 85287-5406, USA Phone: 1-602-965-2647 Fax: 1-602-965-2751 E-mail: yau@asu.edu Jung W. Cho COMPSAC96 Operations Committee Chair Center for AI Research, KAIST 373-1 Kusung-Dong, YuSung-Ku Taejon, Korea 305-701 Phone: 82-42-869-8701 Fax: 82-42-869-8700 E-mail: jwcho@cs.kaist.ac.kr compsac@cair.kaist.ac.kr Sponsored by: The Computer Society of The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc. Korea Information Science Society Hosted by: Center for Artificial Intelligence Research, Korea Institute of Advanced Science and Technology =20 ******************************************************************************* Critical COMPSAC 96 Information "Profile of Korean Software Industry - Another Fast Growing Region" ******************************************************************************* As of 1994, Gross Product of Korea Information Industry is almost 33,905M (US) dollars. Among them, Software Industry accounts for 2,180M dollars which is 6.4% of Gross Product. Software Industry is growing at the average annual rate of 26% since 1991. Software industry import scale is 264M dollars while export scale is 14.2M dollars. The Korea Information Industry is divided into three categories: Computer related industry, Information communication industry, and Information processing service industry. Software industry actually means the Information Processing Service Industry which, in turn, comprises software development, information processing service, and database service. 1. Package software industry Software development is heavily dependent on package development. The market size of package software industry is 450M dollars in 1994 and expected to be 600M dollars in 1995. Specifically, PC package software market is 85M dollars in 1994 and 130M dollars in 1995. Major portion of this PC package is OA, i.e., word processor, spreadsheet, database and email, which is 70M and 90M dollars in 1994 and 1995, respectively. 2. Information processing service industry The market size is 1,400M dollars which can be elaborated as follows: Custom-made software: 750M dollars Consulting: 160M dollars Data processing: 57M dollars Maintenance: 410M dollars Software company distribution capital size ($) no of companies ---------------- --------------- less than 0.13M 367 0.13M - 0.65M 446 0.65M - 1.3M 76 more than 1.3M 135 --------------------------------------- total 1024 Business types no of companies -------------- --------------- SW 293 SW, HW 530 SW, Communication 137 SW, etc. 64 --------------------------------------- total 1024 The information processing Service industry is expanding with the constantly high growth rate after solving software piracy problems. Right now, much effort has been invested in software technology development and acquisition. 3. Database industry The database industry is immature compared with other industries. Now it is expected to grow rapidly with the information superhighway project sponsored by the government. The government plans to invest 5,700M dollars to construct the information superhighway through 2015. The current situation is as follows: No of commercial databases 906 No of database providers 396 No of database servers 52 No of DB service subscribers 380,000 No of public DBs in development 400 The following information is not a part of software industry, but a part of information industry. It is added just for the reference. 4. System integration (SI) industry The market size is twice larger than software industry, i.e., 3,400M dollars. The SI demand is expected to be rapidly increasing. Major SI enterprises seem to lead the information industry. SI enterprises distribution ('93) sales volume no of enterprises ------------ ----------------- less than 1.3M 17 1.3M - 6.5M 35 6.5M - 13M 23 more than 13M 23 ----------------------------------------- total 98 5. VAN service industry Currently, there are 750,000 information service subscribers. Among them, 455,000 subscribers are served by the 4 major PC communication providers. There are 1,046 information providers and 2,230 databases. Right now, Internet is popular and its services are greatly demanded. 6. Multimedia industry One of the fast growing markets is multimedia industry market. With the information superhighway project, this industry will be expanded with a high increasing rate for the next 5 to 10 years. The government actively supports this private sector. The current situation is as follows: Total sales volume is 3,400M dollars. Among them, MM PC 39.1% CDROM Drive 15.5% Sound card 17.2% Overlay board 10.3% CD-title 15.7% Authoring tools 2.2% ******************************************************************************* In general, the Korean Information Industry has been expanding aggressively in recent years and is projected to continue its high growth rate into the next century. The Korean Software Industry certainly has a lot of room for improvement and requires active collaborative research and development efforts with foreign software experts and firms. COMPSAC 96 provides an excellent opportunity for software professionals worldwide to witness one of the fast growing software arenas and facilitates information exchange and collaboration between Korean domestic software firms and foreign organizations and institutions. Meeting hundreds of Korean software practitioners at COMPSAC 96 will certainly help you collect first-hand information and exploit the business and collaborative R&D opportunities. ******************************************************************************* compiled by Sukho Lee Department of Computer Engineering Seoul National University San 56-1, Shinrim-Dong, Kwanak-Ku Seoul, 151-742, KOREA tel: +82-2-880-7293 fax: +82-2-886-7589 e-mail: shlee@snucom.snu.ac.kr www: http://dbbob.snu.ac.kr/shlee/ (147.46.131.189) ******************************************************************************* From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 04 18:11:56 1996 Received: from Waldemar.mat.uni.torun.pl by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 4 Jan 1996 15:11:10 -0800 Received: by Waldemar.mat.uni.torun.pl (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXyoF-0002zQC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 00:10 MET Message-Id: From: rzm@mat.uni.torun.pl (Rafal Maszkowski) Subject: WOSP charity transmission planned on 7th of January To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:10:58 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 702 I hope nobody minds GSM vat retransmission from the Polish Radio of the event called Wielka Orkiestra Swiatecznej Pomocy - Final. The aim of the whole action is to collect money for ill children etc. WOSP had an enormous success in Poland in previous years and this year is going to be propagated not only through old style media but is going on the Internet too - WWW, IRC and maybe MBONE and reflectors if everything works correctly. The time: ca 8 GMT, 14 hours, Sunday, January 7th 1996, GSM sd title: Wielka Orkiestra Swiatecznej Pomocy R. -- Rafal Maszkowski rzm@torun.pdi.net http://www.torun.pdi.net/~rzm Opinia publiczna powinna byc zaalarmowana swoim nieistnieniem - St. J. Lec From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 04 22:36:01 1996 Received: from hot.ee.lbl.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:35:33 -0800 Received: by hot.ee.lbl.gov (8.7.1/1.43r) id TAA07546; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:35:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601050335.TAA07546@hot.ee.lbl.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net From: multicast@ee.lbl.gov Reply-to: multicast@ee.lbl.gov Subject: MBone broadcast of ERSUG meeting (Jan 8-9) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 19:35:30 PST Sender: leres@ee.lbl.gov On Monday and Tuesday of next week (Jan 8-9, 1996), we are planning an MBone broadcast the Energy Research Supercomputer Users' Group (ERSUG) meeting at LBNL. The meeting will run from 9:00-17:00 PDT (17:00-01:00 GMT) both days. The current agenda is available at: http://www.nersc.gov/doc/Quick_Help/ERSUG/Jan96_Agenda.txt and more information on ERSUG is available at: http://www.nersc.gov/doc/Quick_Help/ERSUG/ersug.html Sorry for the late notice. Please let us know via email to multicast@ee.lbl.gov if there are any problems with this schedule or problems during the broadcast. The session will be advertised with sd as "ERSUG meeting at LBNL" at ttl 127. We plan to send 32kb/s audio with vat and 128kb/s H.261 video with vic-2.7. There will also be a "ERSUG control wb" whiteboard session for listener feedback. Note that you must have some version of vic-2.7 to receive the video of this broadcast (nv and/or vic-2.6 will *not* work). Vic source and pre-compiled binaries for many architectures are available at: ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vic/alpha-test The current version is vic-2.7a32 but any earlier version will also work. Any version of vat will receive the audio from this broadcast. If you do not have vat, source and pre-compiled binaries for many architectures are available at: ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vat and ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vat/alpha-test If you do not have them, binaries for sd (1.14) and wb (1.59) are available at: ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/sd ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/wb From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jan 05 15:23:23 1996 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:22:53 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA00568 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:22:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199601052022.MAA00568@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: FreeBSD Lounge: sdr sources & wb? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 12:22:39 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Howdy, Could the author of sdr please compile a copy of sdr for FreeBSD? I will be happy to assist in any way that I can. On a different topic, How can I erase stuff from the "wb" when other people write on it? Is just that folks tend to write stuff on FreeBSD Lounge's wb forget to erase whatever they write when is no longer needed. Tnks, Amancio From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jan 05 16:56:01 1996 Received: from nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:55:33 -0800 Received: by nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov (940816.SGI.8.6.9/1.35) id NAA00697; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:16:19 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:16:19 -0800 From: garyp@nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov (Gary Paden) Message-Id: <199601052116.NAA00697@nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: NASA Shuttle Mission Mbone presentation We are planing a Mbone presentation of the NASA Shuttle Mission STS-72 January 11 - 20. We will using nv From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jan 05 17:02:22 1996 Received: from nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:01:31 -0800 Received: by nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov (940816.SGI.8.6.9/1.35) id NAA00705; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:22:15 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:22:15 -0800 From: garyp@nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov (Gary Paden) Message-Id: <199601052122.NAA00705@nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: NASA Shuttle Mbone Presentation We are planing an Mbone presentation of the NASA Shuttle Mission STS-72 January 11 - 20. We will be using nv and vat for the entire presentation. If this presentation conflicts with any previously scheduled broadcasts please contact me by phone or e-mail. Gary Paden NASA Ames/Sterling garyp@nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov (415)604-0082 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jan 05 17:19:37 1996 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:18:24 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA01084; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 14:18:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199601052218.OAA01084@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: garyp@nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov (Gary Paden) cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: NASA Shuttle Mission Mbone presentation In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jan 1996 13:16:19 PST." <199601052116.NAA00697@nren-vod.arc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 14:18:04 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." >>> Gary Paden said: > We are planing a Mbone presentation > of the NASA Shuttle Mission STS-72 > January 11 - 20. We will using nv Any good reason why you can't use vic and h.261? Tnks, Amancio From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jan 05 18:48:41 1996 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:47:58 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA00421 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 15:47:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199601052347.PAA00421@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: FreeBSD Lounge: vat and gsm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 15:47:45 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sorry I forgot to include this on my previous post, With vat-4.0a2 I am able to receive gsm streams however when I tried to send gsm streams they sound like garbage on the other end. Anyone else seen this problem with intel boxes? I am running FreeBSD. Tnks, Amancio From rem-conf-request@es.net Sat Jan 06 09:59:55 1996 Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sat, 6 Jan 1996 06:59:25 -0800 Received: from faui45r.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (eckert@faui45r.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.2.54]) by immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de with ESMTP id PAA18113 (8.7.2/7.5a-FAU);; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 15:59:17 +0100 (MET) From: Toerless Eckert Message-Id: <199601061459.PAA18113@faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Subject: Re: Closed Caption for hearing impaired To: crobson@andy.dia.atd.net (Chris Robson ATDNet Admin) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 15:59:16 +0100 (MET) Cc: mbone@ISI.EDU, rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: from "Chris Robson ATDNet Admin" at Jan 5, 96 04:46:37 pm Organisation: CSD IMMD IV, University of Erlangen, Germany X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Anyone worked out (or thought of) a way to see closed caption on video > applications like VIC or NV. Sure. Technically it's not so much of a problem, but if it really belongs into vic or nv is the real question. Both of them are considered to be video only so far and an additional text channel might be considered to be more appropriate for a separate application, like audio is being handled too with vat or the like). Implementationwise the two framegrabber cards which are likely to be a good starting pointto include close caption decoding are the VigraPix and the SlicVideo, both of which are supported in vic2.7. I'll personally try to do it with the VigraPix, but we first have to get a european teletext decoder written for that (american CC is already in their library). Best regards toerless From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 08 13:52:32 1996 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:51:57 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA18693; Mon, 8 Jan 96 13:51:55 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA06715; Mon, 8 Jan 96 13:49:33 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29969; Mon, 8 Jan 96 13:49:32 EST Message-Id: <9601081849.AA29969@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 1124790B1E8771E9852562AB00657208; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:49:31 To: imtc Cc: h32z2-list , rem-conf From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 8 Jan 96 13:29:00 EDT Subject: Next H.323 audioconference Tuesday, 9 Jan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hi folks: The next H.323 audioconference will be held tomorrow, 9 January. Those interested in contributing to the shape of the H.323 standard are encouraged to join these IMTC-sponsored audio conference calls. The current lineup is: Tuesday, 9 Jan, +1-212-346-0348, reservation #1488895 Thursday, 11 Jan, +1-212-346-0415, reservation #1415645 All audioconferences are held from 11:00-13:00 Boston time. These calls are not moderated by an operator. Pressing *0 will bring one on line. The service can be reached at 1-800-252-5150, or from outside the US at +1-303-633-3000. Cheers, -rich baker IMTC CNC AG Chair PictureTel Corp bake@pictel.com +1-508-623-4459 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 09 03:49:45 1996 Received: from precept.com (actually hydra.precept.com) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 00:49:13 -0800 Received: from little-bear.precept.com by precept.com (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA26254; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 00:49:11 -0800 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 00:49:11 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Casner To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Joseph Di Pol has made the following request for new static RTP payload type assignmentss for DVI4 at new frequency rates. The RTP audio/video profile is currently being edited by the RFC Editor, so it is still in transition from the draft which lists the initial set of assignments as discussed on this mailing list to a mode where the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) will take new requests for assignments. Hence, I wanted to solicit comments >from the AVT working group via this list. Joe wrote (and I extracted): At this time I would like to request that the following static payload types be added to the RTP Profile for Audio and Video Conferences. These types are for DVI4 encodings at industry standard sample rates as specified by the Interactive Multimedia Association: PT encoding audio/video clock rate channels name (A/V) (Hz) (audio) _______________________________________________________________ 16 DVI4 A 11025 1 17 DVI4 A 22050 1 18 DVI4 A 44100 1 I have prototyped the use of these encodings in our product (ShowMe TV) and have found the performance and quality to be outstanding. I feel that these types are valuable because they provide high quality audio at industry standard sample rates with reasonable bandwidth and excellent performance. ... Also we hope to take ShowMe TV 1.1 to Beta in a couple of weeks, and I would like to support these types in that release. So if we could resolve this fairly quickly that would really help my logistics. Finally at some point support for 2 channels at these frequency rates would also be nice but is not necessary for us at this time. I assume there are some issues with this as the profile document mentions that "packing of samples for multiple channels is for further study.". These encodings meet the criteria that have been proposed in the Profile draft for IANA to use in accepting new requests (utility, specs available for implementation, etc.). I would appreciate any comments you may have regarding: - how useful these assignments would be - how conservative or lax the assignment policy should be (considering the small space) - whether these assignments will enhance or hinder interoperation - other comments Thanks. -- Steve From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 09 12:34:54 1996 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:34:21 -0800 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by ipdunidx.unipd.it (8.6.10/140.2) id SAA19676; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:33:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:33:08 +0100 Message-Id: <199601091733.SAA19676@ipdunidx.unipd.it> X-Sender: h2000and@ipdunidx.unipd.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net, rem-conf-request@es.net From: Andrea Monaci help From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 09 12:35:26 1996 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:34:23 -0800 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by ipdunidx.unipd.it (8.6.10/140.2) id SAA19678; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:33:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:33:12 +0100 Message-Id: <199601091733.SAA19678@ipdunidx.unipd.it> X-Sender: h2000and@ipdunidx.unipd.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net, rem-conf-request@es.net From: Andrea Monaci lists From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 09 12:35:53 1996 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:34:26 -0800 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by ipdunidx.unipd.it (8.6.10/140.2) id SAA19680; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:33:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:33:14 +0100 Message-Id: <199601091733.SAA19680@ipdunidx.unipd.it> X-Sender: h2000and@ipdunidx.unipd.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net, rem-conf-request@es.net From: Andrea Monaci subscribe ANDREA MONACI From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 09 17:41:31 1996 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 14:40:55 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA00708 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 14:40:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199601092240.OAA00708@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: which mbone tools work with loopback? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 14:39:32 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Howdy, I am interested in finding which mbone tools can work with loopback enabled. I know that vat likes to turn off local loopback. For instance can rat work with loopback enabled? Basically, we are interested in recording mbone sessions on the same machine and not have to rely on other machines to do the recording. In my case, I have an SGI Indy right next to me still it would be nice to do it all on my FreeBSD box. Tnks, Amancio From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 09 20:02:26 1996 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 17:01:41 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA01530 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 17:01:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199601100101.RAA01530@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: FreeBSD Lounge: GUS PnP --- full duplex soundcard. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 17:01:21 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Well, the GUS PnP is beginning to hit the market. Whats cool about this card is that it works rather well in full duplex mode and with no feedback problems. Additionally, if the card is accessed via its C24231 then the audio stream is automatically synchronized to the given frequency. The PnP support in FreeBSD is lacking a little behind however we expect to be able to solve the problem at least for the GUS PnP in the near future. For now, I just boot dos to init my GUS PnP and then do a soft boot to FreeBSD. If there are any PnP low level experts around here which care to lend hand please don't hesitate to send me e-mail 8) So if you are considering buying a sound card for FreeBSD or Linux please do consider this card. I use mine everyday to talk to folks on FreeBSD Lounge and when folks ask me how is the card working I just smile and say well how does it sound to you 8) Oh, about the linux bit we on FreeBSD use the Linux sound driver, Voxware , and at least I tend to keep in touch with the author, Hannu. I am keeping a web page of mbone tools available for Freebsd which I intent to update periodically: http://rah.star-gate.com/~hasty/mbone.html Enjoy, Amancio From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 09 20:16:50 1996 Received: from piper.cs.colorado.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 17:16:08 -0800 Received: (from evi@localhost) by piper.cs.colorado.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA24152; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:16:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:16:00 -0700 (MST) From: Evi Nemeth Message-Id: <199601100116.SAA24152@piper.cs.colorado.edu> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: USENIX Conference, Jan 24-26, 1996 Cc: bob@piper.cs.colorado.edu, carolyn@usenix.org, evi@piper.cs.colorado.edu we are planning to broadcast the keynote address (van jacobson), some of the technical sessions and a few of the invited talks. we will be using: vat, vic 2.7, and wb. a control white board will contain the schedule and invite feedback. note: you must have vic version 2.7 (ftp.ee.lbl.gov in the directory conferencing/vic/alpha-test) as it is not compatible with earlier versions. here is a tentative schedule (still missing some author's permission): Wed, 9am Van Jacobson's, Keynote Address: Nature and Nurture - The Interplay of UNIX and Networking Wed, 11am Linus Torvalds, Linux: Architecture, Experiences, and Future Wed. 2pm Panel Discussion: Opinions on Recent Legal Decisions Wed, 4pm Bruce Schneier, Cryptography in the 21st Century Thurs, 11am Refereed Papeers: The WEB Session Thurs, 2pm Carey Eugene Heckman, Forming a More Perfect Net Governance Thurs, 4pm Panel Discussion: Selling Stuff That's Free - The Commercial Side of Free Software Fri, 11am Refereed Papers: The Performance Session more details on the entire program are available at http://www.usenix.org/ -evi From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 10 05:43:26 1996 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 10 Jan 1996 02:42:53 -0800 Received: from shrew.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:38:16 +0000 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: University College London, CS Dept. X-Phone: +44 171 419 3666 To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: which mbone tools work with loopback? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jan 1996 14:39:32 PST." <199601092240.OAA00708@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:38:12 +0000 Message-ID: <8224.821270292@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Sender: M.Handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk >I am interested in finding which mbone tools can work with loopback >enabled. I know that vat likes to turn off local loopback. I assume you're talking about IP multicast loopback, not audio loopback... >For instance can rat work with loopback enabled? >Basically, we are interested in recording mbone sessions on the >same machine and not have to rely on other machines to do the recording. Loopback is not really a complicated issue - basically you take a performance hit from leaving loopback on if you don't actually want the packets, but the code to discard the packets in your app if you do loop them back is trivial. Thus if you want loopback in vat, why not add it as a command line flag (vat is source-available now)? Mark From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 10 08:52:01 1996 Received: from mailhost.lut.ac.uk (actually bgate.lut.ac.uk) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 10 Jan 1996 05:51:11 -0800 Received: by hpd.lut.ac.uk (15.11/SMI-4.1) id AA28532; Wed, 10 Jan 96 13:50:19 gmt Message-Id: <9601101350.AA28532@hpd.lut.ac.uk> From: Ben Anderson Subject: Re: which mbone tools work with loopback? To: M.Handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Mark Handley) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 13:50:17 GMT Cc: rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: <8224.821270292@cs.ucl.ac.uk>; from "Mark Handley" at Jan 10, 96 10:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0 (LUT)] > > > >I am interested in finding which mbone tools can work with loopback > >enabled. I know that vat likes to turn off local loopback. > > >Basically, we are interested in recording mbone sessions on the > >same machine and not have to rely on other machines to do the recording. > > Loopback is not really a complicated issue - basically you take a > performance hit from leaving loopback on if you don't actually want > the packets, but the code to discard the packets in your app if you do > loop them back is trivial. Thus if you want loopback in vat, why not > add it as a command line flag (vat is source-available now)? > or put: global V $V(session) loopback 1 into ~/.vat.tcl Problem with this is that your vat is then _always_ loopback enabled.... B. -- My Sig= http://pipkin.lut.ac.uk/~ben/sig.html From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 10 10:13:36 1996 Received: from mento.oit.unc.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 10 Jan 1996 07:13:04 -0800 Received: by mento.oit.unc.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/TAS/11-16-88) id AA18469; Wed, 10 Jan 96 10:13:01 EST Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:12:58 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Jones Cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: MBONE tools for AIX In-Reply-To: <199601100116.SAA24152@piper.cs.colorado.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm afraid it's true I'm in a mostly AIX environment. I can easily see tha not too many of the MBONE tools have been ported to AIX as binary distributions in the regular places and I don;t seen too much about AIX in the various FAQs I checked. But I have seen (and unfortunately ignored) notes about AIX on this list. Could folks who do have the various tools working on AIX drop me a note and tell me about availability and even do-ability of AIX ports? Thanks in advance and appologies to the rest of you for the spam-ish message ============================================================================ Paul Jones http://sunsite.unc.edu/pjones/ Co-Author, The Web Server Book (Ventana, 1995) NEW JOB! NEW ADDRESS! University of VIRGINIA - Institute for Advanced Technology in the Humanities pjones@virginia.edu voice: (804) 924-4527 fax: (804) 982-2363 http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/ ============================================================================= From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 10 11:22:52 1996 Received: from mobius.norstan.com (actually norstan.winternet.com) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 10 Jan 1996 08:22:17 -0800 Received: from mpg.norstan.com (msgate.norstan.com [204.89.129.2]) by mobius.norstan.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA04340 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 17:37:03 GMT Received: by mpg.norstan.com with Microsoft Mail id <30F3E734@mpg.norstan.com>; Wed, 10 Jan 96 10:20:04 CST From: "Metzner Tom E." To: video ml1 Subject: Subscribe Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 10:20:00 CST Message-ID: <30F3E734@mpg.norstan.com> Return-Receipt-To: Encoding: 9 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Hello, I would like to subscribe to your mailing list. Thank you in advance. 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Voice 414-798-2347 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 11 06:14:33 1996 Received: from marstu.mari.su by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Jan 1996 03:13:39 -0800 Received: by marstu.mari.su id AA02991 (5.65/IDA-simtel for rem-conf@es.net); Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:45:43 +0300 From: Alex Shayahmetov Message-Id: <199601111145.AA02991@marstu.mari.su> Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:45:42 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 10 SUBSCRIBE From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 11 10:25:30 1996 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Jan 1996 07:24:44 -0800 Received: from electre.inria.fr (electre.inria.fr [128.93.2.11]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA14159; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 16:24:19 +0100 (MET) Received: by electre.inria.fr; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 16:24:19 +0100 From: Christian DONOT Message-Id: <199601111524.AA02731@electre.inria.fr> Subject: 5th International WWW Conference To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 16:24:18 +0100 (MET) Cc: "Jean-Francois.Abramatic" , Tie.Liao@inria.fr, Christian.Donot@inria.fr X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text The Fifth International World Wide Web Conference will take place on May 6-11, 1996 at CNIT-Paris La Defense. This E-mail's object intended to reserve the period from May 7-9 to broadcast some conferences over the MBONE from 06:00 GMT for 10 hours. More precisions and information will have to be got on http://www5conf.inria.fr/ The differentes sessions will be annonced by SD as soon as possible. Best regards. Christian -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Christian Donot Direction of Research Promotion and its Transfer =+=+=+=+=+=+=+= * INRIA's Activities Demonstrations Manager (DPRT) * French Multicast Bone Co-ordinator (mbone-fr@inria.fr) (ARISTOTE) To get "mbone-fr" map : ftp anonymous from electre.inria.fr:pub/mbone ftp anonymous from ftp.inria.fr:network/mbone/map * To get "ivs" : (INRIA) ftp anonymous from zenon.inria.fr:rodeo/ivs/last_version http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/ivs.html * To get "telesia" : (Aristote) ftp anonymous from electre.inria.fr:pub/videoconf/last_version =+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Tel : +33 1 39 63 57 75 | INRIA/DPRT/ARISTOTE Fax : +33 1 39 63 55 34/53 30 | BP 105 Email : Christian.Donot@inria.fr | 78153 LE CHESNAY CEDEX : chd@inria.fr | FRANCE =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 11 12:43:50 1996 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:43:16 -0800 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by ipdunidx.unipd.it (8.6.10/140.2) id SAA07926; 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Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:43:19 -0800 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by ipdunidx.unipd.it (8.6.10/140.2) id SAA07932; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:42:34 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:42:34 +0100 Message-Id: <199601111742.SAA07932@ipdunidx.unipd.it> X-Sender: h2000and@ipdunidx.unipd.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net, rem-conf-request@es.net From: Andrea Monaci help From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 11 12:45:37 1996 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:43:20 -0800 Received: from ipdunidx.unipd.it by ipdunidx.unipd.it (8.6.10/140.2) id SAA07934; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:42:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:42:37 +0100 Message-Id: <199601111742.SAA07934@ipdunidx.unipd.it> X-Sender: h2000and@ipdunidx.unipd.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net From: Andrea Monaci info rem-conf From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 11 17:05:56 1996 Received: from bordeaux.nijenrode.nl by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:05:10 -0800 Received: from bordeaux.nijenrode.nl (steven@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bordeaux.nijenrode.nl (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA02708; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 23:03:45 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199601112203.XAA02708@bordeaux.nijenrode.nl> To: Andrea Monaci cc: rem-conf@es.net In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:42:37 +0100." <199601111742.SAA07934@ipdunidx.unipd.it> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 23:03:44 +0100 From: Steven Hessing In your mail from 11-1-1996 you write: > info rem-conf Try rem-conf-request@es.net You've just send 4 messages to 1000s of people -- Steven From rem-conf-request@es.net Sat Jan 13 06:36:50 1996 Received: from INGFI1.ING.UNIFI.IT by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sat, 13 Jan 1996 03:36:13 -0800 Received: from aguirre.ing.unifi.it by INGFI1.ING.UNIFI.IT with SMTP; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 20:14:53 +0200 (MET) Received: from ozon180.ing.unifi.it by aguirre.ing.unifi.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03652; Wed, 10 Jan 96 16:50:42 +0100 Received: by ozon180.ing.unifi.it (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02622; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:46:14 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:46:14 +0100 From: oq95@aguirre.ing.unifi.it Message-Id: <9601101546.AA02622@ozon180.ing.unifi.it> Errors-To: oq95@aguirre.ing.unifi.it To: selist@aguirre.ing.unifi.it Subject: Second IEEE International Conference on Engineering of Complex Computer Systems Cc: nesi@aguirre.ing.unifi.it X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Reply-To: oq95@aguirre.ing.unifi.it Errors-To: oq95@aguirre.ing.unifi.it Content-Length: 6015 Call for Papers ICECCS' 96 Second IEEE International Conference on Engineering of Complex Computer Systems Held jointly with 6th CSESAW, 4th IEEE RTAW Montreal, Quebec, Canada, October 21-25, 1996 Sponsored by: IEEE Computer Society, (IEEE Technical Segment Committee on Engineering of Complex Computer Systems) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ICECCS'96 General Chair Alexander Stoyenko New Jersey Institute of Technology alex@vulcan.njit.edu CSESAW'96 Chair N.D. Hoang Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division IEEE RTAW'96 Chair Ling Guan, University of Sydney Jose Salinas, Naval Undersea Warfare Center Jacques Skubich, INSA Lyons PC Co-Chairs (The Americas) Rick Honendorf, Ontario Hydro Kelvin Nilsen, Iowa State University PC Co-Chairs (Europe & Africa) Bernd Kramer, Fern Universitat, Hagen Kevin Ryon, University of Limerick PC Co-Chair (Asia/Oceania) Yoshiaki Kakuda, Osaka University Industrial/Exhibits Chair Thomas Bihari AMT Systems Engineering, Inc. teb@amt.columbus.oh.us Tutorials Chair Neville Dean, Anglia Polytechnic University Local Arrangements Chair John Harauz, Ontario Hydro Publicity Chair Michael Hinchey New Jersey Institute of Technology Mike.Hinchey@cl.cam.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Program Committee: T. Ae V. Alagar S. Andler R. Bettati T. Bihari J. Bowen S. Chakravarthy S. Chodrow M. Colnaric L. da F. Costa K. Davis H. Dean P. Devanbu M. Eshaghian B. Furht J. Gaffney D. Gillies H. Gommaa P. Gopinath L. Guan J. Harauz W. Halang H.-L. Hausen M. Hinchey N. D. Hoang R. Hohendorf S. Howell J. Jehuda Y. Kakuda A. Kavensky B. Kramer P. Laplante K. Man T. Marlowe J. McDermid R. Milovanovic P. Moretto L. Motus P. Nesi K. Nilsen R. Nord D. Parnas M. Pezze P. Poon V. Prasanna J. de La Puente T. Risch K. Ryon J. Salinas R. Scherl N. Schneidewind J. J. Schwarz J. Skubich A. Stoyenko N. Suri H. Toetenel G. Tsai J. Vasell J. Voas P. Voldner S. White J. Zalewski ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Description: IEEE Computer Society's Second International Conference on the Engineering of Complex Computer Systems (ICECCS'96) is to be held in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, in October 1996, jointly with the 6th Complex Systems Engineering Synthesis and Assessment Technology Workshop (CSESAW'96) and the 4th IEEE Workshop on Real-Time Applications (RTAW`96). Scope: Complex computer systems are becoming common in many sectors, such as manufacturing, communications, defense, transportation, aerospace, hazardous environments, energy, and health care. These systems frequently include distributed, heterogeneous networks, and are driven by requirements on performance, real-time behavior, fault tolerance, security, adaptability, development time and cost, long life concerns, and other areas. Such requirements frequently conflict, and satisfaction of these requirements requires managing the tradeoffs among them during system development and throughout the entire system life. The goal of this conference is to bring together industrial, academic, and government experts from these various disciplines, to determine how the disciplines' problems and solution techniques interact within the whole system. Researchers, practitioners, tool developers and users, and technology transition experts are all welcome. Long-term research, near-term complex system requirements and promising tools, and existing complex systems and commercially available tools will be examined on a level playing field. Tracks/Mini-Tracks/Sessions: A number of tracks/mini-tracks are anticipated, chaired by PC members, as follows: * AI and Intelligent Systems (P. Devanbu, R. Scherl) * Architectures, Tools, Environments and Languages (S. Chodrow,T. J. Marlowe, J. Vasell) * Complex Database Systems and Data Management (S. Andler, S. Chakravarthy) * Dependable Real-Time Systems (J. J. Schwarz, N. Suri) * Formal Methods (P. Nesi, H. Toetenel, G. Tsai) * Heterogeneous Computing (M. Eshaghian) * Software Engineering, Re-engineering, Re-use (M. Hinchey, J. McDermid) * Standards (W. Halang, P. Voldner) * Systems Engineering (T. Bihari, R. Milovanovic, P. Poon) * Virtual Reality, Multimedia, Real-Time Imaging (L. da F. Costa, B. Furht, P. Laplante) Submissions: Both long (under 5000 words) and short (under 2500 words) submissions are welcome, including presentations of complete work, summaries of work in progress, position statements, exhibit proposals, tutorial proposals. A submission may address any combination of research, technology or applications within the ECCS area. Prospective participants are encouraged to contact and discuss their possible submissions with appropriate Chairs. All submissions should be made, in eight copies, by April 15th, 1996 to: Alexander Stoyenko Real-Time Computing Laboratory Department of Computer and Information Science New Jersey Institute of Technology University Heights Newark, New Jersey 07102 USA alex@vulcan.njit.edu +1-201-596-3366 (office) +1-201-596-5777 (fax) Suggestions and questions concerning exhibits of research prototypes and commercially available tools and technology should be directed to: Thomas Bihari AMT Systems Engineering 1218 Kinnear Road Columbus, Ohio 43212 USA teb@amt.columbus.oh.us +1-614-486-7741 (office) +1-614-486-9459 (fax) Authors will be notified by July 15, 1996. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ICECCS'96 is generously supported by: ONR, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Honeywell, and Real-Time Computing Laboratory at NJIT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rem-conf-request@es.net Sat Jan 13 07:14:39 1996 Received: from INGFI1.ING.UNIFI.IT by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:14:06 -0800 Received: from aguirre.ing.unifi.it by INGFI1.ING.UNIFI.IT with SMTP; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 20:19:22 +0200 (MET) Received: from ozon180.ing.unifi.it by aguirre.ing.unifi.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03374; Wed, 10 Jan 96 16:37:00 +0100 Received: by ozon180.ing.unifi.it (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02597; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:36:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:36:29 +0100 From: oq95@aguirre.ing.unifi.it Message-Id: <9601101536.AA02597@ozon180.ing.unifi.it> To: selist@aguirre.ing.unifi.it Subject: Second IEEE International Conference on Engineering of Complex Computer Systems Cc: pnesi@aguirre.ing.unifi.it X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 6015 Call for Papers ICECCS' 96 Second IEEE International Conference on Engineering of Complex Computer Systems Held jointly with 6th CSESAW, 4th IEEE RTAW Montreal, Quebec, Canada, October 21-25, 1996 Sponsored by: IEEE Computer Society, (IEEE Technical Segment Committee on Engineering of Complex Computer Systems) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ICECCS'96 General Chair Alexander Stoyenko New Jersey Institute of Technology alex@vulcan.njit.edu CSESAW'96 Chair N.D. Hoang Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division IEEE RTAW'96 Chair Ling Guan, University of Sydney Jose Salinas, Naval Undersea Warfare Center Jacques Skubich, INSA Lyons PC Co-Chairs (The Americas) Rick Honendorf, Ontario Hydro Kelvin Nilsen, Iowa State University PC Co-Chairs (Europe & Africa) Bernd Kramer, Fern Universitat, Hagen Kevin Ryon, University of Limerick PC Co-Chair (Asia/Oceania) Yoshiaki Kakuda, Osaka University Industrial/Exhibits Chair Thomas Bihari AMT Systems Engineering, Inc. teb@amt.columbus.oh.us Tutorials Chair Neville Dean, Anglia Polytechnic University Local Arrangements Chair John Harauz, Ontario Hydro Publicity Chair Michael Hinchey New Jersey Institute of Technology Mike.Hinchey@cl.cam.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Program Committee: T. Ae V. Alagar S. Andler R. Bettati T. Bihari J. Bowen S. Chakravarthy S. Chodrow M. Colnaric L. da F. Costa K. Davis H. Dean P. Devanbu M. Eshaghian B. Furht J. Gaffney D. Gillies H. Gommaa P. Gopinath L. Guan J. Harauz W. Halang H.-L. Hausen M. Hinchey N. D. Hoang R. Hohendorf S. Howell J. Jehuda Y. Kakuda A. Kavensky B. Kramer P. Laplante K. Man T. Marlowe J. McDermid R. Milovanovic P. Moretto L. Motus P. Nesi K. Nilsen R. Nord D. Parnas M. Pezze P. Poon V. Prasanna J. de La Puente T. Risch K. Ryon J. Salinas R. Scherl N. Schneidewind J. J. Schwarz J. Skubich A. Stoyenko N. Suri H. Toetenel G. Tsai J. Vasell J. Voas P. Voldner S. White J. Zalewski ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Description: IEEE Computer Society's Second International Conference on the Engineering of Complex Computer Systems (ICECCS'96) is to be held in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, in October 1996, jointly with the 6th Complex Systems Engineering Synthesis and Assessment Technology Workshop (CSESAW'96) and the 4th IEEE Workshop on Real-Time Applications (RTAW`96). Scope: Complex computer systems are becoming common in many sectors, such as manufacturing, communications, defense, transportation, aerospace, hazardous environments, energy, and health care. These systems frequently include distributed, heterogeneous networks, and are driven by requirements on performance, real-time behavior, fault tolerance, security, adaptability, development time and cost, long life concerns, and other areas. Such requirements frequently conflict, and satisfaction of these requirements requires managing the tradeoffs among them during system development and throughout the entire system life. The goal of this conference is to bring together industrial, academic, and government experts from these various disciplines, to determine how the disciplines' problems and solution techniques interact within the whole system. Researchers, practitioners, tool developers and users, and technology transition experts are all welcome. Long-term research, near-term complex system requirements and promising tools, and existing complex systems and commercially available tools will be examined on a level playing field. Tracks/Mini-Tracks/Sessions: A number of tracks/mini-tracks are anticipated, chaired by PC members, as follows: * AI and Intelligent Systems (P. Devanbu, R. Scherl) * Architectures, Tools, Environments and Languages (S. Chodrow,T. J. Marlowe, J. Vasell) * Complex Database Systems and Data Management (S. Andler, S. Chakravarthy) * Dependable Real-Time Systems (J. J. Schwarz, N. Suri) * Formal Methods (P. Nesi, H. Toetenel, G. Tsai) * Heterogeneous Computing (M. Eshaghian) * Software Engineering, Re-engineering, Re-use (M. Hinchey, J. McDermid) * Standards (W. Halang, P. Voldner) * Systems Engineering (T. Bihari, R. Milovanovic, P. Poon) * Virtual Reality, Multimedia, Real-Time Imaging (L. da F. Costa, B. Furht, P. Laplante) Submissions: Both long (under 5000 words) and short (under 2500 words) submissions are welcome, including presentations of complete work, summaries of work in progress, position statements, exhibit proposals, tutorial proposals. A submission may address any combination of research, technology or applications within the ECCS area. Prospective participants are encouraged to contact and discuss their possible submissions with appropriate Chairs. All submissions should be made, in eight copies, by April 15th, 1996 to: Alexander Stoyenko Real-Time Computing Laboratory Department of Computer and Information Science New Jersey Institute of Technology University Heights Newark, New Jersey 07102 USA alex@vulcan.njit.edu +1-201-596-3366 (office) +1-201-596-5777 (fax) Suggestions and questions concerning exhibits of research prototypes and commercially available tools and technology should be directed to: Thomas Bihari AMT Systems Engineering 1218 Kinnear Road Columbus, Ohio 43212 USA teb@amt.columbus.oh.us +1-614-486-7741 (office) +1-614-486-9459 (fax) Authors will be notified by July 15, 1996. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ICECCS'96 is generously supported by: ONR, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Honeywell, and Real-Time Computing Laboratory at NJIT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rem-conf-request@es.net Sat Jan 13 13:05:38 1996 Received: from cerc.wvu.edu (actually cathedral.cerc.wvu.edu) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sat, 13 Jan 1996 10:05:07 -0800 Received: from anawalt (anawalt.cerc.wvu.edu) by cerc.wvu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0:RAL-041790) id AA27566; Sat, 13 Jan 96 13:04:19 EST From: alsalqan@cerc.wvu.edu (Yahya Alsalqan) Received: by anawalt (5.x//ident-1.0) id AA18538; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 13:04:17 -0500 Message-Id: <9601131804.AA18538@anawalt> Subject: Security Enterprise Workshop:CFP To: Christian.Donot@inria.fr (Christian DONOT) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 13:04:17 -0500 (EST) Cc: rem-conf@es.net, Jean-Francois.Abramatic%inria.fr.Olivier.Muron@inria.fr, Tie.Liao@inria.fr, Christian.Donot@inria.fr In-Reply-To: <199601111524.AA02731@electre.inria.fr> from "Christian DONOT" at Jan 11, 96 04:24:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Call For Papers International Workshop on Enterprise Security June 19-21 Stanford University, Stanford, California Co-sponsored by the IEEE Computer Society and the Concurrent Engineering Research Center (CERC) at West Virginia University Hosted by the Center for Design Research, Stanford University ============================================================================== Enterprises are increasingly dependent on their information systems to support their business and workflow activities. There is a need for universal electronic connectivity to support interaction and cooperation between multiple organisations. This makes enterprise security and confidentiality more important, but more difficult to achieve, as the multiple organisations may have differences in their security policies and may have to interact via an inscure internet. These inter-organisational enterprise systems may be very large and so tools and techniques are needed to support the specification, analysis and implementation of security. This workshop will focus on the problems and challenges relating to enterprise security in inter-organisational systems. We aim to biring together principal players from both the internetwork and enterprise security community and will provide plenty of time for discussion. Topics to be addressed include: - Specifying and Analysing Enterprise Security Policy - Role-Based Access Control - Security infrastrutre for large-scale systems - Supporting enterprise security over the internet - Conflicts and harmonization of inter- and intra-organizational Security - Distributed Database Security - Secure Transactions - Security in Workflow Process - Object Oriented and CORBA Security - Secure Applications and Environments - Integrating Heterogeneous Security Environments - Managing inter-oranisational Enterprise Security - Internet Security protocols - Security Algorithms This workshop will be part of the IEEE Fifth Workshops on Enabling Technologies: Infrastructure for Collaborative Enterprises (WET-ICE 96) organized by the Concurrent Engineering Research Center (CERC)/ West Virginia University and will be hosted by the Center for Design Research, Stanford University, California. Important Dates: ================ Papers Due March 15, 1996 Panel Proposals March 15, 1996 Authors notified of acceptance April 19, 1996 Workshop June 19-21, 1996 Camera Ready June 28, 1996 INFORMATION FOR AUTHORS OF PAPERS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PROCEEDINGS =================================================================== Mail six copies of an original (not submitted or published elsewhere) paper (double-spaced) of 3000-5000 words to the Program Chair. Include the title of the paper, the name and affiliation of each author, a 150-word abstract and no more than 8 keywords. The name, position, address, telephone number, and if possible, fax number and e-mail address of the author responsible for correspondence of the paper must be included. INFORMATION FOR PANEL ORGANIZERS ================================ Send six copies of panel proposals to the Program Chair. Include the title, a 150-word scope statement, proposed session chair and panelists and their affiliations, the organizer's affiliation, address, telephone and fax number, and e-mail address. INFORMATION FOR AUTHORS OF POSITION PAPERS ========================================== Send six copies of position paper of 2-3 pages to the Program Chair. Include the title of the paper, the name and affiliation of each author, a 150-word abstract and no more than 8 keywords. The name, position, address, telephone number, and if possible, fax number and e-mail address of the author responsible for correspondence of the paper must be included. An accepted position paper will get less presentation time than full paper. Program Committee ================= Program Chair Yahya Al-Salqan Concurrent Engineering Research Center P.O. Box 6506 West Virginia University Morgantown, WV 26506 USA Ph: (304) 293-7226 Fax: (304) 293-7541 e-mail: alsalqan@cerc.wvu.edu Workshop Program Committee (Partial List): ========================================== Takasi Arano, NTT Corp, Japan Germano Caronni, Computer Engineering and Networks Laboratory, ETH-Zentrum, Switzerland Chikuang Chao, AT&T, USA Taher ElGamal, Netscape Corp., USA Matthias Hirsch, BSI (Federal Department of Security in the Information Technology-Germany Steve Kent, BBN, USA W. Douglas Maughan, Technical Director, National Security Agency (NSA), USA Clifford Neuman, USC/ISI, USA LouAnna Notargiacomo, Oracle Corp., USA Morris Sloman, Department of Computing: Imperial College, UK Ravi Sandhu, Department of Information and Software Engineering, George Mason University, USA Robert Thomys, BSI (Federal Department of Security in the Information Technology-Germany Nick Zhang, CERC, West Virginia University, USA Interrnet Hotline ================= Information on Enterprise Security Workshop may be obtained through the WWW using the URL http://www.cerc.wvu.edu/SECWK/ You don't need to have a paper to attend the workshop. From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Jan 14 20:32:58 1996 Received: from linus.socs.uts.EDU.AU by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:32:29 -0800 Received: (from sanjay@localhost) by linus.socs.uts.EDU.AU id MAA04569 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Mon, 15 Jan 1996 12:32:13 +1100 From: Sanjay Jha Message-ID: <199601150132.MAA04569@linus.socs.uts.EDU.AU> Subject: RTP-MIB To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 12:32:13 +1100 (EST) Cc: pgsf@di.ufbe.br, sanjay@es.net (Sanjay Jha), schulzrinne@fokus.gmd.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 886 Hi, I would be interested in forming a working group for definition of Management Information Base (MIB) for Multimedia Applications based on RTPv2(unless this work has been done before or there is a working group on it). The purpose of RTPv2MIB would (but not limited to) facilitate the following: 1. Interaction between different multimedia applications.(example audio & video application for synchronisation etc.) 2. Interaction between the underlying systems manager and the multimedia applications.(for bandwidth/congestion control on links etc) 3. development of management/monitoring(Quality of Service etc) tools independent of the knowledge of multimedia application implementation. These are some initial thoughts to provoke a debate. Sanjay K Jha University of Technology & Distributed Systems Technology Centre, Sydney, Australia. e-mail: sanjay@socs.uts.edu.au From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 15 01:58:11 1996 Received: from agora.stm.it by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 14 Jan 1996 22:57:44 -0800 Received: from netman.agora.stm.it (agora.stm.it [194.20.43.1]) by agora.stm.it (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA04956 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:59:30 GMT Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:59:30 GMT Message-Id: <199601150759.HAA04956@agora.stm.it> X-Sender: m.degregorio@hella.stm.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net From: Maurizio de Gregorio Subject: Sorce code of browser Where can I find the source codes of browser like Mosaic? __________________________________________________ Maurizio de Gregorio Via Filippo Corridoni, 10 50134 Firenze (ITALY) Tel: +39-55-486530 UNIVERSITA' DI FIRENZE (ITALIA) Facolta' di Ingegneria Elettronica e-mail: labimm@ingfi1.ing.unifi.it __________________________________________________ From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 15 10:24:25 1996 Received: from FNAL.FNAL.Gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:23:58 -0800 Received: from FNAL.FNAL.GOV by FNAL.FNAL.GOV (PMDF V5.0-5 #3998) id <01I018QU4UTM00049U@FNAL.FNAL.GOV> for rem-conf@es.net; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 09:23:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 09:23:56 -0600 (CST) From: POSTMASTER@FNAL.Gov Subject: No Longer Here... To: rem-conf@es.net Message-id: <01I018QU4VRG00049U@FNAL.FNAL.GOV> Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory X-VMS-To: SMTP%"rem-conf@es.net" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Please remove the address abar@fnal.fnal.gov from your mailing list. That person no longer works at Fermilab. If you have any questions please send mail to postmaster@fnal.gov From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 15 13:58:20 1996 Received: from hplms26.hpl.hp.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 15 Jan 1996 10:57:50 -0800 Received: from hplabsz.hpl.hp.com by hplms26.hpl.hp.com with ESMTP ($Revision: 1.36.108.11 $/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1S) id AA137282267; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 10:57:48 -0800 Received: by hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA058352269; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 10:57:49 -0800 From: deleon@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Laura de Leon) Message-Id: <9601151057.ZM5833@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 10:57:49 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.0.0 15dec93) To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: BayLISA January Meeting: IP v6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 The BayLISA group meets monthly to discuss topics of interest to systems and network administrators. The meetings are free and open to the public. BayLISA holds monthly meetings on the third Thursday of each month at 7:30 PM PST. We meet at Synopsys Building C in Mountain View, California off Highway 237 at Middlefield. The meetings are also broadcast via MBONE. Schedule -------- January 18: Steve Deering or Bob Hinden (Xerox PARC) on IP version 6. This months talk will be about the next generation of the network protocol that underlies the Internet. Our speaker is one of the designers. For further information on BayLISA, check out our web site: http://www.baylisa.org/ To get further information on the meeting location, you can also ftp it from ftp.baylisa.org:/BayLISA/location or you can query the BayLISA mail server by cutting and pasting the following line to your shell: echo "index baylisa" | mail majordomo@baylisa.org BayLISA makes video tapes of the meetings available to members. For more information on available videos, please send email to: video@baylisa.org For any other information, please send email to: info@baylisa.org If you have any questions, please contact me or the info alias listed above. From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 16 03:32:27 1996 Received: from woodstock.cs.berkeley.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:31:53 -0800 Received: from woodstock.cs.berkeley.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woodstock.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA13429; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:28:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199601160828.AAA13429@woodstock.cs.berkeley.edu> From: Andrew Swan To: rowe@cs.Berkeley.EDU, 298-list@woodstock.cs.berkeley.edu Subject: UC Berkeley Multimedia Seminar 1/17 -- "The Sun Media Center" X-URL: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~aswan/ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:28:49 -0800 Sender: aswan@woodstock.cs.berkeley.edu The first UC Berkeley Multimedia and Graphics seminar of the Spring 1996 semester will be held Wednesday, January 17 (tomorrow) from 12:30 - 2:00 PST in 405 Soda Hall. The speaker will be Steve Kleiman of Sun Microsystems, discussing "The Sun Media Center". The talk will be broadcast on the Internet MBONE, beginning at roughly 12:40 PM PST. Please note that you will need vic 2.7 to watch the broadcast. Pre-compiled vic binaries for most architectures are available from: ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vic/alpha-test/ Questions should be directed to Larry Rowe (rowe@cs.berkeley.edu) Abstract: "The Sun Media Center" Steve Kleiman, Sun Microsystems The Sun Media Center (SMC) products provide guaranteed delivery of independent, continuous bit streams over a variety of networks. The SMC products span a range of capacities at and are intended for use in applications requiring moderate capacity isochronous streams such as enterprise networks and Near Video-on-Demand (NVOD). This talk will discuss the overall goals of the design. We explicitly chose not to add cost and complexity by building servers designed to scale for very large VOD applications. Instead we chose to concentrate on enterprise video and to leverage high-volume components to achieve good price/performance and flexibility. The talk will cover the design and implementation of the SMC and the various stream output mechanisms including ATM, 100 Mbit ethernet, and analog video. The format and evironment for transporting MPEG over ethernet networks will also be discussed. From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 16 05:59:50 1996 Received: from rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 16 Jan 1996 02:59:16 -0800 Received: from ro2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (ro2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.15.162]) by rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00120 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:59:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from ro4.informatik.uni-hamburg.de by ro2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (4.1/SMI-4.1/RZ-1.04/s) with SMTP id ; Tue, 16 Jan 96 11:58:39 +0100 From: richter@ro2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Jan-Peter Richter) Message-Id: <9601161058.AA00549@ro2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Subject: bug?:VideoPix/Vic2.7a26/PAL/h.261 To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:59:10 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Hi! I have some trouble using a (PAL-) color videocamera and a VideoPix video capture board with VIC v 2.7a26. Whenever I use the h.261 encoding the picture turns orange at the top and green at the bottom but there are no true colors. Using grayscale by deselecting "color" in the main vic window or using color with one of the other encodings (nv, nvdct and cellb) works just fine. It seems to me that the software does not recognize the PAL color signal correctly in h.261 mode. Is this a known bug? Is there a known fix? Jan-Peter Richter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jan-Peter Richter Vogt-Koelln-Str.30 Universitaet Hamburg D-22527 Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik Tel: +49 40 54715-344 Arbeitsbereich Rechnerorganisation Fax: +49 40 54715-345 e-mail: richter@informatik.uni-hamburg.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 16 11:29:01 1996 Received: from my28.sm.luth.se by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:28:19 -0800 Received: from jota23.sm.luth.se (d92-esg@jota23.sm.luth.se [130.240.2.63]) by my28.sm.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id RAA22878 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:23:14 +0100 (MET) From: d92-esg@sm.luth.se Received: (d92-esg@localhost) by jota23.sm.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id RAA01321 for rem-conf@es.net; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:26:34 +0100 Message-Id: <199601161626.RAA01321@jota23.sm.luth.se> Subject: ATM switch design ? To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:26:33 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am taking a VLSI design course in wich we are going to design an ATM switch, using VHDL. Is there anyone out there with general design hints, or maybe some references to texts I should read ? /Emil Svanberg From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 17 15:56:07 1996 Received: from eitech (actually eitech.eit.COM) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:55:37 -0800 Received: from [192.100.58.210] (orange.eit.com [192.100.58.210]) by eitech (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA10920 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:55:29 -0800 X-Sender: goldberg@pop.eit.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:56:52 -0800 To: rem-conf@es.net From: Goldberg@eit.com (Carole Goldberg) Subject: Develop synchronous collaboration tools Enterprise Integration Technologies (EIT) in Menlo Park, Ca is an expert in Internet and electronic commerce. The job opening described low should be of interest to this group, so I hope you don't mind this posting. Anyone interested can e-mail me a message and/or resume OR Fax: 415-462-6369 Mail: Carole Goldberg, EIT, 800 El Camino Real, Menlo Park, CA 94025 Software Engineer Next Generation Internet Server Develop synchronous collaboration tools for a next generation server project. Responsibilities include: developing real-time collaboration tools and applications, integration of tools with WWW/VR server, user interface development, session management, and exploring new techniques for online social interaction. Experience and Educational Background -BS, MS preferred -Synchronous collaboration; real-time audio/video; networking; multimedia -2 - 4 years experience with multicast, MBONE, RTP, shared applications, WWW, CSCW, groupware From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 17 17:14:26 1996 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:38:29 -0800 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id LAA20916; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:38:22 -0800 Received: from rebma. (rebma-i.Eng.Sun.COM) by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA20324; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:38:16 -0800 Received: by rebma. (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06120; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:34:07 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:34:07 -0800 From: hoffman@rebma.Eng.Sun.COM (Don Hoffman) Message-Id: <9601171934.AA06120@rebma.> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Reqeusting comments on MPEG over RTP draft Reply-To: hoffman@Eng.Sun.COM X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII (It looks like a previous version of this message did not make it out of Sun. My apologies if this is a duplicate.) With AVT no longer meeting, I wanted to generate a bit more review of of our MPEG/RTP encapsulation draft before we go to final call. If you have interest in doing MPEG over IP, I urge you to give the draft a quick read. You can find it at: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avt-mpeg-01.txt or at any of the standard internet draft locations (ftp.isi.edu, ds.internic.net, munnari.oz.au, nic.nordu.net, ftp.is.co.za). In particular, I am looking for comments in the following areas: 1) If you are planning on doing MPEG over IP nets, does this draft meet your requirements? 2) In the latest version, we added support for encapsulation of the native MPEG system, transport and program streams. For the most part, these treat the MPEG stream as an opaque stream of bytes (except for transport, where it is treated as a stream of MTS packets). This means that some of the typical uses of RTP for inter-stream synchronization will not be possible except at a gross level. In this case, RTP is used to detect lost and misordered packets and as a stream de-jittering mechanism (much as the SCR in MTS). Is this a reasonable use of RTP? 3) We define an encapsulation of the MPEG elementary streams. This encapsulation contains additional fields in the video stream that allow for recovery from losses of certain MPEG ES header information. Given the additional overhead to gather and put the redundant info in the encapsulation-specific header, do you find the spec useful, or would it be better to define a simpler encap that kept the spirit of ALF but dropped the additional header information. Although we have prototyped this on Suns and feel the additional info has value, we welcome comments based on other implementation experience. Other comments also welcome. -- Don Hoffman Sun Microsystems, Inc. email - hoffman@eng.sun.com, phone - +1 503 297 1580, fax - +1 503 297 2880 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 05:12:55 1996 Received: from marstu.mari.su by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 02:12:04 -0800 Received: by marstu.mari.su id AA14110 (5.65/IDA-simtel for rem-conf@es.net); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:44:15 +0300 From: Alex Shayahmetov Message-Id: <199601181044.AA14110@marstu.mari.su> Subject: Question on subscription To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:44:14 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 315 Hello All! Can someone tell me how can I join to subscription lists of the conference? Thanks in advance. -------------------------------- Alex ASH, programmer. Mari State TechnicalUniversity, Multimedia System Laboratiry, Yoshkar-Ola, Mari-El, Russia. -------------------------------- E-Mail: ash@marstu.mari.su From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 09:54:13 1996 Received: from uu7.psi.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 06:53:45 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA10122 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:34:11 -0500 Received: from mailgate1.insoft.com by insoft.com (4.1/InSoftMail-1.4) id AA19945; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:14:21 EST Original-Received: from cc:Mail by mailgate1.insoft.com id AA821984767 Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:06:07 EDT PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Date: Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:06:07 EDT From: dlh@insoft.com (Daniel L. Harple) Message-Id: <9600188219.AA821984767@mailgate1.insoft.com> To: Goldberg@eit.com (Carole Goldberg), rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Develop synchronous collaboration tools i don't believe that job postings are appropriate for this group. dlh _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Develop synchronous collaboration tools Author: Goldberg@eit.com (Carole Goldberg) Date: 1/17/96 6:15 PM Enterprise Integration Technologies (EIT) in Menlo Park, Ca is an expert in Internet and electronic commerce. The job opening described low should be of interest to this group, so I hope you don't mind this posting. Anyone interested can e-mail me a message and/or resume OR Fax: 415-462-6369 Mail: Carole Goldberg, EIT, 800 El Camino Real, Menlo Park, CA 94025 Software Engineer Next Generation Internet Server Develop synchronous collaboration tools for a next generation server project. Responsibilities include: developing real-time collaboration tools and applications, integration of tools with WWW/VR server, user interface development, session management, and exploring new techniques for online social interaction. Experience and Educational Background -BS, MS preferred -Synchronous collaboration; real-time audio/video; networking; multimedia -2 - 4 years experience with multicast, MBONE, RTP, shared applications, WWW, CSCW, groupware From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 11:35:03 1996 Received: from borg.mindspring.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:34:32 -0800 Received: from barnette.mindspring.com [168.121.57.42] by borg.mindspring.com with SMTP id LAA23213 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 11:34:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199601181634.LAA23213@borg.mindspring.com> X-Sender: barnette@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 11:26:40 -0600 To: rem-conf@es.net From: barnette@mindspring.com (Roger Barnette) Subject: Remove from mailing list . . . Please remove barnette@mindspring.com from your mailing list. Thank you. From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 12:30:41 1996 Received: from retro.jhuapl.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:29:54 -0800 Received: by retro.jhuapl.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA154586185; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:29:45 -0500 From: glh@retro.jhuapl.edu (Gene Heyler S1A) Message-Id: <9601181229.ZM15456@retro.jhuapl.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:29:45 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (2.1.3 26jan93) To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Please unsubscribe Please remove glh@retro.jhuapl.edu from mailing list. Please remove glh@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu from mailing list if it exists. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Gene A. Heyler Ph: 410-792-6000 x 8664 Johns Hopkins Univ. Fax: 410-792-6670 Applied Physics Lab Email: glh@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu -or- Bldg 24 Rm E131 glh@retro.jhuapl.edu Laurel, Maryland USA 20723-6099 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 15:20:19 1996 Received: from ncc.ripe.net by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:19:35 -0800 Received: from office.ripe.net by ncc.ripe.net with SMTP id AA02118 (5.65a/NCC-2.30); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 21:19:33 +0100 Message-Id: <9601182019.AA02118@ncc.ripe.net> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: IMPORTANT: unsub messages From: Geert Jan de Groot X-Organization: RIPE Network Coordination Centre X-Phone: +31 20 592 5065 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 21:19:32 +0100 Sender: GeertJan.deGroot@ripe.net While this list's topic is multicasting, the way to unsubscribe is NOT to broadcast your request to the net. You are hampering thousands of readers who can't help you, and worse, you are not reaching the persons who do. Messages like: >Please remove xxx@yyy from mailing list. >Please remove xxx@zzz from mailing list if it exists. are really NOT appropiate. For list foo@bar, always send your administrativa to foo-request@bar. As far as unsubscribe messages are concerned, please keep in mind that you apperently managed to get subscribed, and not using that mechanism again (forgotten?) looks kind of stupid. Yours for less inappropiate traffic, Geert Jan From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 15:41:51 1996 Received: from revco.med.yale.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:41:02 -0800 Received: by revco.med.yale.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA09387; Thu, 18 Jan 96 15:41:23 EST Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:41:23 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Callahan To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Wiring a school... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi - I'm trying to help my local school board with getting the best information about wiring a high school. The school is going through a $40 million renovation and would like to have each classroom and office wired to handle all od the possibilites of the next 50 years. Should there be a fiber optic system throughout the school ? should their be a wall unit with a phone line and two coax cables ? The hardware will change over time, but they want the transport system between rooms up to date- as best as possible. Maybe several rooms will have "deluxe" capabilities and others "basic". Looking for any leads to info, blueprints, agencies, who are doing this to new buildings. Thanks in advance, Rob Callahan From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 19:42:21 1996 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 16:41:37 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA03262; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 16:41:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199601190041.QAA03262@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Geert Jan de Groot cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: unsub messages In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jan 1996 21:19:32 +0100." <9601182019.AA02118@ncc.ripe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 16:41:09 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." I think that the list manager should handle most of this unsubscribe messages . Although, is cool to mention to the list how to unsuscribe I am sure that others in the future will attempt to unsubscribe to the list by mailing to rem-conf and the same for subscribe. Amancio >>> Geert Jan de Groot said: > > While this list's topic is multicasting, the way to unsubscribe > is NOT to broadcast your request to the net. > You are hampering thousands of readers who can't help you, and > worse, you are not reaching the persons who do. > > Messages like: > >Please remove xxx@yyy from mailing list. > >Please remove xxx@zzz from mailing list if it exists. > are really NOT appropiate. > > For list foo@bar, always send your administrativa to foo-request@bar. > As far as unsubscribe messages are concerned, please keep in mind that > you apperently managed to get subscribed, and not using that > mechanism again (forgotten?) looks kind of stupid. > > Yours for less inappropiate traffic, > > Geert Jan From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 21:59:20 1996 Received: from cs.rpi.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 18:58:37 -0800 Received: from colossus.cs.rpi.edu by cs.rpi.edu (5.67a/1.4-RPI-CS-Dept) id AA23387; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 21:58:32 -0500 (glinert from colossus.cs.rpi.edu) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 96 21:58:25 EST From: glinert@cs.rpi.edu Received: by colossus.cs.rpi.edu (4.1/2.3-RPI-CS-client) id AA20323; Thu, 18 Jan 96 21:58:25 EST Message-Id: <9601190258.AA20323@colossus.cs.rpi.edu> To: end2end-interest@venera.isi.edu, f-troup@AURORA.CIS.UPENN.edu, ir-l%uccvma.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu, rem-conf-request@es.net, rem-conf@es.net, sound@PASCAL.acm.org, tccc@cs.umass.edu Subject: ASSETS'96 AP + Reg Forms /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ADVANCE PROGRAM AND REGISTRATION FORMS ASSETS'96 The Second International ACM/SIGCAPH Conference on Assistive Technologies April 11 - 12, 1996 Waterfront Centre Hotel Vancouver BC, Canada Sponsored by the ACM's Special Interest Group on Computers and the Physically Handicapped, ASSETS'96 is the second of a new series of conferences whose goal is to provide a forum where researchers and developers from academia and industry can meet to exchange ideas and report on new developments relating to computer-based systems to help people with impairments and disabilities of all kinds. This announcement includes 4 parts: o Message from the Program Chair o ASSETS'96 Advance Program o ASSETS'96 Registration Form o Hotel Information If you have any questions or would like further information, please consult the conference web pages at http://www.cs.rpi.edu/assets or contact the ASSETS'96 General Chair: Ephraim P. Glinert Dept. of Computer Science R. P. I. Troy, NY 12180 Phone: (518) 276 2657 E-mail: glinert@cs.rpi.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ MESSAGE FROM THE PROGRAM CHAIR ============================== As Assets '96 Program Chair, I am pleased to extend a warm invitation to you to attend ASSETS'96, the 1996 ACM/SIGCAPH International Conference on Assistive Technologies! This is the second in an annual series of meetings whose goal is to provide a forum where researchers and developers from academia and industry can meet to exchange ideas and report on leading edge developments relating to computer based systems to help people with disabilities. This year, conference attendees will hear 21 exciting presentations on state-of-the art approaches to vision impairments, motor impairments, hearing impairments, augmentative communication, special education needs, Internet access issues, and much more. All submissions have undergone a rigorous review process to assure that the program is of the high technical quality associated with the best ACM conferences, and no more papers have been accepted than can comfortably be presented in a single track (no parallel sessions), with ample time included in the schedule for interaction among presenters and attendees. Come join us in beautiful Vancouver for a great time and a rewarding professional experience! David L. Jaffe VA Palo Alto Health Care System /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ASSETS'96 ADVANCE PROGRAM ========================= NOTE: For each paper, only the affiliation of the first author is given. WED 4/10: 6:00 pm - 9:00 pm Registration + Reception THU 4/11: 8:00 am - 5:00 pm Registration 8:00 am - 9:00 am Continental Breakfast 8:45 am - 9:00 am Welcome to ASSETS'96! 9:00 am -10:00 am KEYNOTE ADDRESS: David Rose, Center for Applied Special Technology (CAST) 10:00 am -10:30 am Break 10:30 am -12:00 noon Papers I: The User Interface I "Touching and hearing GUIs: Design issues for the PC access system" C. Ramstein, O. Martial, A. Dufresne, M. Carignan, P. Chasse and P. Mabilleau Center for Information Technologies Innovation (Canada) "Enhancing scanning input with nonspeech sounds" S.A. Brewster, V. Raty and A. Kortkangas University of Glasgow (UK) "A study of input device manipulation difficulties" S. Trewin University of Edinburgh (UK) 12:00 - 1:00 pm Lunch 1:00 pm - 2:00 pm SIGCAPH Business Meeting 2:00 pm - 3:00 pm Papers II: The World Wide Web "V-Lynx: Bringing the World Wide Web to sight-impaired users" M. Krell and D. Cubranic University of Southern Mississippi (USA) "Computer generated 3-dimensional models of manual alphabet shapes for the World Wide Web" S. Geitz, T. Hanson and S. Maher Gallaudet University (USA) 3:00 pm - 3:30 pm Break 3:30 pm - 5:30 pm Papers III: Vision Impairments I "EMACSPEAK: Direct Speech Access" T.V. Raman Adobe Systems "The Pantobraille: Design and pre-evaluation of a single cell braille display based on a force feedback device" C. Ramstein Center for Information Technologies Innovation (Canada) "Interactive tactile display system: A support system for the visually impaired to recognize 3D objects" Y. Kawai and F. Tomita Electrotechnical Laboratory (Japan) "Audiograf: A diagram reader for the blind" A.R. Kennel Institut fur Informationssysteme (Switzerland) 6:00 pm - 9:00 pm Buffet Dinner 8:00 pm - 9:00 pm ASSETS'97 Organizational Meeting FRI 4/12: 8:00 am -12:00 noon Registration 8:00 am - 9:00 am Continental Breakfast 9:00 am -10:00 am Papers IV: Empirical Studies "EVA, an early vocalization analyzer: An empirical validity study of computer categorization" H.J. Fell, L.J. Ferrier, Z. Mooraj, E. Benson and D. Schneider Northeastern University (USA) "An approach to the evaluation of assistive technology" R.D. Stevens and A.D.N. Edwards University of York (UK) 10:00 am -10:30 am Break 10:30 am -12:00 noon Papers V: The User Interface II "Designing interface toolkit with dynamic selectable modality" S. Kawai, H. Aida and T. Saito University of Tokyo (Japan) "Multimodal input for computer access and augmentative communication" A. Smith, J. Dunaway, P. Demasco and D. Peischl A.I. duPont Institute / University of Delaware (USA) "The Keybowl: An ergonomically designed document processing device" P.J. McAlindon, K.M. Stanney and N.C. Silver University of Central Florida (USA) 12:00 - 1:00 pm Lunch 1:00 pm - 2:00 pm Panel Discussion "Designing the World Wide Web for people with disabilities" M.G. Paciello, Digital Equipment Corporation (USA) G.C. Vanderheiden, TRACE R&D Center (USA) L.F. Laux, US West Communications, Inc. (USA) P.R. McNally, University of Hertfordshire (UK) 2:00 pm - 3:00 pm Papers VI: Multimedia "A gesture recognition architecture for sign language" A. Braffort LIMSI/CNRS (France) "`Composibility': Widening participation in music making for people with disabilities via music software and controller solutions" T. Anderson and C. Smith University of York (UK) 3:00 pm - 3:30 pm Break 3:30 pm - 5:30 pm Papers VII: Vision Impairments II "A generic direct manipulation 3D auditory environment for hierarchical navigation in nonvisual interaction" A. Savidis, C. Stephanidis, A. Korte, K. Crispien and K. Fellbaum Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (Greece) "Improving the usability of speech-based interfaces for blind users" I.J. Pitt and A.D.N. Edwards University of York (UK) "TDraw: A computer-based tactile drawing tool for blind people" M. Kurze Free University of Berlin (Germany) "Development of dialogue systems for a mobility aid for blind people: Initial design and usability testing" T. Strothotte, S. Fritz, R. Michel, A. Raab, H. Petrie, V. Johnson, L. Reichert and A. Schalt Universitat Magdeburg (Germany) 5:30 pm Closing Remarks /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ASSETS'96 REGISTRATION FORM =========================== This form is 2 pages long. Please print it out, complete both pages and mail it WITH FULL PAYMENT to: Ephraim P. Glinert, ASSETS'96 Dept. of Computer Science R. P. I. Troy, NY 12180 We're sorry, but e-mail registration forms and/or forms not accompanied by full payment (check or credit card information) CANNOT be accepted. CONFERENCE REGISTRATION FEES EARLY LATE / ON-SITE -------------------------------------------------------- ACM member: $ 395 $ 475 Nonmember: $ 580 $ 660 Full time student: $ 220 $ 270 -------------------------------------------------------- 1: CONFERENCE REGISTRATION (from the table above): $ ___________ 2: SECOND BUFFER DINNER TICKET (Thursday, April 11): $ 50 ___YES ___NO 3: SECOND COPY OF THE CONFERENCE PROCEEDINGS: $ 30 ___YES ___NO TOTAL AMOUNT DUE: $ ___________ NOTES: o Registration fee includes: ADMISSION to all sessions ONE COPY of the conference PROCEEDINGS RECEPTION, 5 MEALS AND 4 BREAKS as shown in the Advance Program!!! o To qualify for the EARLY RATE, your registration must be postmarked on or before WEDNESDAY, MARCH 27, 1996. If you are an ACM MEMBER, please supply your ID# __________________ . STUDENTS, please attach a clear photocopy of your valid student ID. o CANCELLATIONS will be accepted up to FRIDAY, MARCH 15, 1996 subject to a 20% handling fee. ASSETS'96 REGISTRATION FORM (continued) ======================================= PERSONAL INFORMATION: Name __________________________________________________________________________ Affiliation ___________________________________________________________________ Address _______________________________________________________________________ City _______________________________ State/Province __________________________ Country __________________________________ ZIP/Postal Code ___________________ E-mail ________________________________________________________________________ Phone ___________________________________ FAX ________________________________ ***I have a disability for which I require special accommodation ___YES ___NO If YES, please attach a separate sheet with details. Thank you! PAYMENT INFORMATION: ___CHECK in U.S. funds enclosed, made payable to "ACM ASSETS'96" ___Please charge $ ___________ to my CREDIT CARD: Card type: ___AMEX ___VISA ___MasterCard Card # _______________________________________ Expiration Date ___________ Name On Card ______________________________________________________________ Billing Address ___________________________________________________________ Cardholder Signature ________________________________________ (ASSETS'96) /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ HOTEL INFORMATION ================= All conference events will take place at the Waterfront Centre Hotel, a member of the Canadian Pacific group. The hotel is located in downtown Vancouver, next to the convention center and cruise ship terminal. Waterfront Centre Hotel 900 Canada Place Way Vancouver, British Columbia V6C 3L5 CANADA Phone: (604) 691 1991 or (800) 441 1414 FAX: (604) 691 1999 A block of rooms for attendees of ASSETS'96 has been set aside at specially discounted rates: Single $140 Canadian per night, plus applicable taxes Double/Twin $160 Canadian per night, plus applicable taxes Waterfront Suite $360 Canadian per night, plus applicable taxes To reserve space at these prices, please call the hotel directly on or before MARCH 15, 1996 and refer to "ACM ASSETS'96". /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ If you have any questions or would like further information, please consult the conference web pages at http://www.cs.rpi.edu/assets or contact the ASSETS'96 General Chair: Ephraim P. Glinert Dept. of Computer Science R. P. I. Troy, NY 12180 Phone: (518) 276 2657 E-mail: glinert@cs.rpi.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 23:43:13 1996 Received: from cs.bgsu.edu (actually maestro.cs.bgsu.edu) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 20:42:49 -0800 Received: from bell.cs.bgsu.edu (bell.cs.bgsu.edu [129.1.64.39]) by cs.bgsu.edu (8.6.11/950727cs.bgsu.edu) with SMTP id XAA00446 for sender jdolske@cs.bgsu.edu ; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 23:42:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 23:40:57 -0500 (EST) From: Justin Dolske To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: unsub messages In-Reply-To: <9601182019.AA02118@ncc.ripe.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Geert Jan de Groot wrote: > For list foo@bar, always send your administrativa to foo-request@bar. > As far as unsubscribe messages are concerned, please keep in mind that > you apperently managed to get subscribed, and not using that > mechanism again (forgotten?) looks kind of stupid. So mail to rem-conf-request@es.net should get us unsubscribed, right? I've tried that 3 or 4 times over the past month and a half, and NOTHING has happened. Is this list *still* managed by hand? Justin Dolske (jdolske@mail.bgsu.edu) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Remember when you were young, You shone like the sun. Shine on you crazy diamond. Now there's a look in your eyes, Like black holes in the sky..." -- Pink Floyd, "Shine on you crazy diamond" From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 18 23:45:09 1996 Received: from cythera.unb.ca by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 20:44:36 -0800 Received: from cythera.unb.ca (cythera.unb.ca [131.202.3.18]) by cythera.unb.ca (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA15603; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 00:41:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 00:41:03 -0400 (AST) From: "Dwight E. Spencer" To: Rob Callahan cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Wiring a school... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Rob Callahan wrote: > to handle all od the possibilites of the next 50 years. Should there be > a fiber optic system throughout the school ? should their be a wall unit BOy, 50 years?? I suggest you build atime machine, go ahead 50 years, find out what they are using, and come back and tell us. Sorry, this begged some fun. Actually, where any of us will be in 50 years, NO one can predict. Just look at computers 10 or 20 years ago, let alone 50. Whatever you do, I think you should leave the infrastructure open to possible upgrades and/or much more complex renovations. WHo knows? In 50 years, we may all have wireless wrist 20x10^6Megabit mounted "super duper" Ultraputers that can tell us the location of the closest tim hortons, taco bell, or atm machine (will these still exist? ;) just by reading our brain patterns. imho... dwight s. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dwight E. Spencer Canada's Community Access Network eMail: spencer@unb.ca, Server Administrator UNB, Fredericton, NB, Canada Phone: +1 506 447 3153 Url: http://cspace.unb.ca/~spencer/ From rem-conf-request@es.net Sat Jan 20 21:16:34 1996 Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:15:58 -0800 Received: from igc3.igc.apc.org (igc3.igc.apc.org [192.82.108.33]) by cdp.igc.apc.org (8.6.12/Revision: 1.214 ) with SMTP id SAA27860; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:13:40 -0800 Received: from RonSwenson.ganesa.com ([205.179.40.30]) by igc3.igc.apc.org (8.6.12/Revision: 1.9 ) with SMTP id SAA12178; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:11:38 -0800 Message-ID: <3101A0DD.3EDB@igc.apc.org> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:11:41 -0800 From: Ron Swenson Organization: Enigma Logic X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel L. Harple" CC: Carole Goldberg , rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Develop synchronous collaboration tools References: <9600188219.AA821984767@mailgate1.insoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel: IMHO, it is perfectly okay if someone wants to use rem-conf to communicate their needs. What is less useful: to be able to ask a technical question, or to ask for technical help to show up at my office on a daily basis? "Employment" is just a facade, anyway. The underlying principle of community is mutual service. We are here to serve each other in this community of interest. Ron Swenson ====================== Daniel L. Harple wrote: > > i don't believe that job postings are appropriate for this group. > dlh > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Subject: Develop synchronous collaboration tools > Author: Goldberg@eit.com (Carole Goldberg) > Date: 1/17/96 6:15 PM > > Enterprise Integration Technologies (EIT) in Menlo Park, Ca is an expert in > Internet and electronic commerce. The job opening described low should be > of interest to this group, so I hope you don't mind this posting. > > Anyone interested can e-mail me a message and/or resume OR > Fax: 415-462-6369 > Mail: Carole Goldberg, EIT, 800 El Camino Real, Menlo Park, CA 94025 > > Software Engineer > Next Generation Internet Server > > Develop synchronous collaboration tools for a next generation server > project. Responsibilities include: developing real-time collaboration > tools and applications, integration of tools with WWW/VR server, user > interface development, session management, and exploring new techniques for > online social interaction. > > Experience and Educational Background > > -BS, MS preferred > -Synchronous collaboration; real-time audio/video; networking; multimedia > -2 - 4 years experience with multicast, MBONE, RTP, shared applications, > WWW, CSCW, groupware From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Jan 21 20:03:35 1996 Received: from virginia.edu (actually uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 21 Jan 1996 17:03:08 -0800 Received: from darwin.clas.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa15997; 21 Jan 96 20:03 EST Received: from bootp-156-131.bootp.Virginia.EDU (bootp-156-131.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.156.131]) by darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA129480 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 20:02:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 20:02:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199601220102.UAA129480@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU> X-Sender: rlh6f@darwin.clas.virginia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net From: Ryan Harris Can someone repost the message about how to unsubscribe from this mailing list? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Harris Lotus@Virginia.EDU http://darwin.clas.virginia.edu/~rlh6f (804) 243-2294 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 23 00:04:12 1996 Received: from plateau.cs.Berkeley.EDU (actually bugs-bunny.CS.Berkeley.EDU) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 22 Jan 1996 21:03:45 -0800 Received: from garfield.CS.Berkeley.EDU (garfield.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.32.118]) by plateau.cs.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.3) with ESMTP id UAA19536; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:56:54 -0800 Received: from garfield.CS.Berkeley.EDU (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by garfield.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA05108; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:59:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199601230459.UAA05108@garfield.CS.Berkeley.EDU> From: Andrew Swan To: 298@garfield.CS.Berkeley.EDU Cc: rowe@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: UCB Multimedia Seminar 1/24/96 "The MPact Media Processor" X-URL: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~aswan/ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:59:04 -0800 Sender: aswan@bugs-bunny.CS.Berkeley.EDU The second Berkeley Multimedia and Graphics seminar of the Spring 1996 semester will be held Wednesday, January 24 from 12:30 - 2:00 PST in 405 Soda Hall. The speaker will be Steve Purcell of Chromatic Research, discussing "The Architecture of the MPact Media Processor." The talk will be broadcast on the Internet MBONE, beginning at roughly 12:40 PM PST. Please note that you will need vic 2.7 to watch the broadcast. Pre-compiled vic binaries for most architectures are available from: ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vic/alpha-test/ We also hope to broadcast the seminar on the BAGNet -- an sd advertisement should appear on Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday morning. Questions should be directed to Larry Rowe (rowe@cs.berkeley.edu) Abstract: Chromatic's Mpact media engine reaches a new level of multimedia integration for personal computers by leveraging architctural advances in VLIW, SIMD and vector processing and a high bandwidth Rambus memory system. The Mpact media engine consists of a media processor and mediaware software modules. The Mpact mediaware modules support all seven multimedia functions: 1. 2D graphics 2. 3D gaming 3. Video compression and decompression 4. Audio synthesis and compression 5. Telephony 6. FAX/modem 7. Videophone and videoconferencing Mpact will be the first (and perhaps the only) VLIW-based chip to appear on several million PC motherboards in 1996. Chromatic Research was founded two years ago to redefine the personal computer through affordable silicon technology and state of the art algorithms in 3D graphics, motion video, audio and communications. Additional information can be found on http://www.mpact.com From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 23 09:29:52 1996 Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 23 Jan 1996 06:29:18 -0800 Received: from dxcoms.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch id AA27224; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 15:29:15 +0100 Received: by dxcoms.cern.ch; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/28Jul95-0949AM) id AA01308; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 15:29:14 +0100 Message-Id: <9601231429.AA01308@dxcoms.cern.ch> Subject: CERN LHCC MBONE Announcement To: rem-conf@es.net (rem-conf Distribution List) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 15:29:14 +0100 (MET) From: Christian Isnard - CERN/CN/CS X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1600 CERN MBONE Broadcast Announcement Open Session of the Large Hadron Collider Committee (LHCC) -------------------------------------- Thursday 1st February 1996 between 09:00 and 11:30 Geneva Time (GMT+1) ------------------- The session is advertised in sd/sdr session directory as "CERN - LHCC". vat v3.4 (audio), and nv v3.3 (video) will be used with ttl 127. LHCC Open Session Provisional Agenda ------------------------------------ 96/02/01 09:00 - 09:15 (GMT+1): Status of the LHC project (C. Llewellyn Smith, CERN DG) Presentation of the ALICE Technical Proposal (LHCC 95-71/P 3): 09:15-09:40 (GMT+1): Introduction, physics performance (J. Schukraft) 09:45-10:10 (GMT+1): Inner tracking system (L. Ricatti) 10:15-10:40 (GMT+1): TPC, trigger, DAQ (R. Stock) 10:45-11:10 (GMT+1): Other detectors, infrastructure (W. Klempt, L.Leistam) --------------------- In case of questions or problems about this broadcast please contact: This message is sent to distribution lists, sorry if you receive it twice. Best regards, -------------------------------------------------------------------- Christian Isnard CERN - CN/CS/EN isnard@dxcoms.cern.ch European Laboratory for Particle Physics Computers and Networks division CH-1211 Geneva 23 - Switzerland From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 23 18:22:49 1996 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:14:55 -0800 Received: from synapse.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:13:41 +0000 X-Organisation: University College London, CS Dept. X-Phone: +44 171 419 3462 X-Fax: ++44 171 387 1397 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: IPv6 talk Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:13:59 +0000 Message-ID: <1498.822420839@cs.ucl.ac.uk> From: Tony Ballardie Did anyone record Steve Deering's / Bob Hinden's recent talk on IPv6? I think it was scheduled around 17th Jan, but I can't find the announcement. Thanks, Tony From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 24 22:35:31 1996 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 24 Jan 1996 19:35:02 -0800 Received: from redwing.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.19]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <56834(15)>; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 18:02:05 PST Received: by redwing.parc.xerox.com id <177520>; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 15:15:16 -0800 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 15:15:03 PST Sender: Lixia Zhang From: Lixia Zhang To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Van's talk this morning Message-ID: Did anyone record Van's keynote speech this morning? If so I would like to get a copy. thanks, Lixia From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 25 00:26:59 1996 Received: from rah.star-gate.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:26:32 -0800 Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA01758 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:26:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199601250526.VAA01758@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: UCB MPACT Presentation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:26:11 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Howdy, Did anyone record this afternoon MPACT presentation at UCB? If so I would like to get a copy. Tnks, Amancio From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 25 12:37:02 1996 Received: from nemesis.ics.forth.gr (actually nemesis.csi.forth.gr) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 Jan 1996 09:36:30 -0800 Received: from falcon.csi.forth.gr by nemesis.ics.forth.gr (ICS mailhost); on Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:31:54 +0200 (EET DST); with id AA04042 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:31:54 +0200 From: Vidalis Antonis Received: by falcon.csi.forth.gr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07867; Thu, 25 Jan 96 19:39:37 +0200 Message-Id: <9601251739.AA07867@falcon.csi.forth.gr> Organization: Institute of Computer Science, Foundation for Research and Technology-Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385 GR 711 10 Heraklion, Crete, Greece tel.: +30 (81) 39 16 00, fax: +30 (81) 39 16 01 To: rem-conf@es.net, vidalis@ics.forth.gr Subject: Papers on about MBONE tools After installing allmost all of the available MBONE tools (ivs, vat, sd, vic, wb, mscrawl, nevot, nv, mmcc, icc) in our local network, I have to make a thorough comparison among these tools for my graduate thesis. I have to compare them in terms of network performance, the transport protocols used, the compression algorithms, codecs, the platforms on which they run, etc. I am looking for papers about these tools apart of their manual pages and readme files. Currently I have found only two papers: 1) Turletti, "The INRIA teleconferencing System (IVS)", ConneXions 2) V. Jacobson, S. McCanne, " vic: A Flexible Framework for Packet Video", ACM Multimedia, Nov 1995 I would appreciate it if you could help me find more papers about the other tools, or tell me that there are not any other ones, so I will not spare my time searching. If I gather an adequate list of papers, I will post it to the list, in case someone is interested. Thanks in advance , Antonis Vidalis CSI-FORTH P.S. Papers about other Internet, not freeware, teleconferencing tools are welcome, too. From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 25 16:22:41 1996 Received: from venera.isi.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:22:00 -0800 Received: from ash.isi.edu by venera.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-22) id ; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:21:59 -0800 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:19:04 -0800 From: touch@ISI.EDU Posted-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:19:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199601252119.AA04491@ash.isi.edu> Received: by ash.isi.edu (5.65c/4.0.3-4) id ; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:19:04 -0800 To: vidalis@ics.forth.gr Subject: Re: Papers on about MBONE tools Cc: schooler@ISI.EDU, touch@ISI.EDU, rem-conf@es.net X-Auto-Sig-Adder-By: faber@isi.edu > From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 25 12:55:21 1996 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:31:54 +0200 > From: Vidalis Antonis > Organization: Institute of Computer Science, Foundation for Research and > Technology-Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete > Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385 GR 711 10 Heraklion, Crete, > Greece tel.: +30 (81) 39 16 00, fax: +30 (81) 39 16 01 > To: rem-conf@es.net, vidalis@ics.forth.gr > Subject: Papers on about MBONE tools > (edited) > > After installing allmost all of the available MBONE tools (ivs, vat, sd, vic, wb, > mscrawl, nevot, nv, mmcc, icc) in our local network, > > I am looking for papers about these tools apart of their manual pages and readme > files. > > Thanks in advance , > Antonis Vidalis > CSI-FORTH > For "mmcc", please see: http://www.isi.edu/div7/mmconf/ There is a link on that page to an ISI tech report, ftp://ftp.isi.edu/pub/hpcc-papers/mmc/mmcc/ps See also Eve Schooler's web pages, which list papers in journals, conferneces, and tech reports, most of which are relevant...: http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~schooler/ Thanks. Joe From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 25 18:36:00 1996 Received: from realtime.cc.missouri.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:32:23 -0800 Received: (from ccshag@localhost) by realtime.cc.missouri.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA09115; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 17:32:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 17:32:18 -0600 (CST) From: Paul 'Shag' Walmsley X-Sender: ccshag@realtime.cc.missouri.edu To: rem-conf@es.net cc: MU Multicast Transmission Group , petpoole@mail.missouri.edu, ccmerc@mizzou1.missouri.edu Subject: Mon Jan 29: Paul Evan Peters of CNI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Monday, January 29, 1996, Paul Evan Peters of the Coalition for Networked Information (CNI) will present a seminar entitled "Where the Information Highway Is Taking Us" at the University of Missouri-Columbia. The seminar will be from 2330 to 0030 GMT (5:30PM to 6:30PM CST) in MU's Townsend Auditorium in Townsend Hall. A brief amount of information on Paul Evan Peters: Paul Evan Peters founded the Coalition for Networked Information in March 1990 to promote the creation and use of networked information resources and services to advance scholarship and intellectual productivity. Mr. Peters served as a principal in a variety of research and development projects and is one of the principal contributors to the national information policy development effort. We intend to multicast "Where the Information Highway Is Taking Us" over the MBONE. We have booked the transmission on sd, on the MBone Session Agenda at , and on the MBone Broadcast Schedule at . The audio will be transmitted with vat in PCM format on address 224.2.135.11, port 51957, conference ID 63539. The video will be transmitted with nv in nv format on address 224.2.140.94, port 42379, channel 32, at 128kbps. We're using a ttl of 127. (We may also create a whiteboard on the spot for session feedback. It will be announced via sd.) As always, technical multicast comments are welcome at , and we will stand by to scale back network usage if necessary. This seminar is sponsored by the Missouri Institute for Instructional Technology (MUIIT) and the University of Missouri-Columbia School of Library and Informational Science. For more information, see . - Paul "Shag" Walmsley "Praise and blame alike mean nothing." -- Virginia Woolf From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jan 25 22:38:29 1996 Received: from aohakobe.ipc.chiba-u.ac.jp by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:37:23 -0800 Received: from aohakobe (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aohakobe.ipc.chiba-u.ac.jp (8.6.12/3.4Wbeta3 (-: 95041617) with ESMTP id MAA12468 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:38:37 +0900 Message-Id: <199601260338.MAA12468@aohakobe.ipc.chiba-u.ac.jp> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Papers on about MBONE tools In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:31:54 +0200." <9601251739.AA07867@falcon.csi.forth.gr> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:38:37 +0900 From: Yozo Toda (TELEPHONE +81-43-290-3539) > If I gather an adequate list of papers, I will post it to the list, in case s omeone > is interested. very interested. please post it. it would be better there is a live database we can look whenever we want (-: -- yozo. From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jan 26 04:07:54 1996 Received: from ceres.fokus.gmd.de by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Fri, 26 Jan 1996 01:07:23 -0800 Received: from lupus (actually lupus.fokus.gmd.de) by ceres.fokus.gmd.de with SMTP (PP-ICR1v5); Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:52:45 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Vidalis Antonis cc: rem-conf@es.net From: Henning Schulzrinne X-Url: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/step/hgs/ Subject: Re: Papers on about MBONE tools In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:31:54 +0200." <9601251739.AA07867@falcon.csi.forth.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:52:43 +0100 Sender: schulzrinne@fokus.gmd.de Look in the network bibliography at http://www.research.att.com/cgi-bin/ bibsearch_html under vat, nevot, ivs, etc. Henning -- Henning Schulzrinne email: schulzrinne@fokus.gmd.de GMD-Fokus phone: +49 30 25499 182 Hardenbergplatz 2 fax: +49 30 25499 202 D-10623 Berlin URL: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/step/hgs From rem-conf-request@es.net Sat Jan 27 19:30:06 1996 Received: from susie.vigra.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sat, 27 Jan 1996 16:29:38 -0800 Received: (from steve@localhost) by susie.vigra.com (8.6.10/Vigra-1.1 Boogie) id QAA11914; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 16:13:21 -0800 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 16:13:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199601280013.QAA11914@susie.vigra.com> From: Steve Haehnichen To: singer@apple.com (Dave Singer) CC: rem-conf@es.net In-reply-to: singer@apple.com's message of Mon, 22 Jan 1996 21:53:46 GMT Subject: Re: Canon VC-C1 camera serial code? Reply-to: steve@vigra.com References: -=> On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 21:53:46 GMT, singer@apple.com (Dave Singer) said: > Hi > I'm playing with a Canon Vc-c1 camera; it has a serial input to control > pan/zoom etc. Before I start hacking, has anyone written any tools for a > Mac that they could share with me? (E.g. a hypercard stack). > Thanks It's a neat camera, and Canon does sell a Developers Kit that explains all the RS-232 commands, with some Windows software. I wrote a Unix daemon to take TCP connections and text commands to manipulate the camera. It works well.. It will show up on the CanyonCam web page (www.vigra.com) someday if I can figure out how to keep people from zooming in on the sun. :) Until then, I just use it to point the camera around the office from home. I have a crufty TCL/Tk app that lets you drag the focus point around a grid and the camera follows. Fun fun.. :) There are quite a few commands, and some things you can't do from the remote control. I don't know if Hypercard is up to it. -Steve -- Steve Haehnichen Vigra, Inc. San Diego, CA steve@vigra.com (619) 597-7080 x169 Fax: (619) 597-7094 From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Jan 28 04:02:16 1996 Received: from precept.com (actually hydra.precept.com) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:01:31 -0800 Received: from little-bear.precept.com by precept.com (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA13475; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:01:29 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:01:29 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Casner To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A couple of weeks ago, I sent a message to rem-conf relaying a request from Joseph Di Pol for new static RTP payload type assignments for DVI4 encoding at new frequency rates 11025, 22050 and 44100 Hz, one channel. I asked for comments, and received two replies: Christian Huitema wrote: > Defining code points for DVI at different clock rates is a good > idea. The small reservation I have is about he sole support of > DVI4. We have been doing similar experiments, and we found that we > could easy improve the quality of DVI by defining DVI5 and DVI6 - > allowing 5 or 6 bits per sample instead of just 4. SVR Anand wrote: > Though we can keep on adding new payload types now, I am not sure > if we the number space will be sufficient for the time to come. The > payload type should consider media quality along with bandwidth > demands of the media streams. My own position is that I expect these assignments would be useful, but I, too, am concerned about consumption of the number space. Note that Christian is proposing additional encodings, though his scheme would indicate the number of bits (4, 5 or 6) in the payload header so only one payload type would be needed per sampling rate. The mechanism provided in the RTP profile to avoid rapid exhaustion of the payload type space is per-session dynamic payload types communicated via some session establishment protocol. For example, a recent message from Mark Handley outlined a proposed method for defining dynamic payload types in the SDR protocol. I believe that all programs using RTP should implement dynamic payload type support where feasible. As much as possible, we need to try to predict the future and choose for static assignment only those encodings that will prove to be popular. Clearly this will be an imperfect process. My recommendation for this particular request is that two of the three requested static payload types be assigned, for DVI4 at 11025 and 22050 Hz. I believe that many applications that would use 44100 Hz sampling are likely to also want two channels, as Joe noted in his request when he said that support for two channels at these frequency rates was also desired but not needed yet. The method for packing of samples for multiple channels of DVI4 is listed in the profile document as "for further study", but I would hope that Joe's application and others like it can serve as the motivation to select and specify a suitable packing method. Some applications operating at 44100 Hz will also want higher quality than DVI4, e.g., 16-bit sampling for CD audio. There already are two static payload types defined for 16-bit linear sampling at 44100 Hz with one or two channels. Since there were no objections to Joe's request, I will pass that request along with my recommendation to the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA). As the RTP spec and profile were just published as RFCs, this will probably be the first instance of having IANA register new payload formats. -- Steve From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Jan 28 04:54:29 1996 Received: from ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:53:48 -0800 Received: by ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com (5.61/1.15) id AA00527; Sun, 28 Jan 96 02:10:34 -0800 Received: by ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (5.65b(em1)/2.06) id AA04618; Sun, 28 Jan 96 01:20:10 -0800 Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com (5.61/1.15) id AA00255; Sun, 28 Jan 96 01:26:44 -0800 Received: from trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14598; Sun, 28 Jan 96 01:09:19 PST Received: by trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10) id BAA15539; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:09:21 -0800 From: Your VE info source Message-Id: <9601280109.ZM15537@trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:09:20 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: rem-conf%es.net@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com Subject: Latest InfoBahn Calls for Participation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The following are some of the latest Infobahn Calls for Participation: --> VRAIS '96 Advance Program --> 30 March - 3 April 96, Santa Clara --> Virtual Reality Software and Technology 1996 - VRST '96 --> Call date: 1 February 1996 --> "Internet 2001" IEEE Computer Society Press Call for Papers (for a special topic book) IEEE Computer Companion Issue Call for Papers --> Call Date: 8 March 1996 (Extended acceptance period) --> A tenure track position in Computer Science specializing in VR! --> See job ad at back for position at NPS. --> VR Programmers Desired at Naval Postgraduate School -- See job ad at back. ****************************** VRAIS 96 Advance Program ************** ** VRAIS '96 ** IEEE Virtual Reality Annual International Symposium March 30 - April 3, 1996 Santa Clara Marriott Santa Clara, California, USA (San Francisco Bay Area) Sponsored by The IEEE Computer Society Technical Committee on Computer Graphics The Virtual Reality Technology Committee of the IEEE Neural Networks Council ************************ ** PROGRAM INFORMATION ** REGISTRATION AND HOUSING FORMS ** ** PAPERS ** PANELS ** TUTORIALS ** EXHIBITS ** A formatted WWW version of the advance program is available at http://www.eece.unm.edu/eece/conf/vrais ************************ ==== INVITATION FROM THE GENERAL CHAIR ==== I invite you to take part in the IEEE 1996 Virtual Reality Annual International Symposium (VRAIS '96), which will mark the third entry in the VRAIS series. Taking place in the heart of Silicon Valley in the San Francisco Bay Area, VRAIS '96 promises to be the premiere venue in 1996 for the presentation of research and development in virtual reality. Over the last two years, the field of virtual reality has seen something of a maturation. We are no longer the "hot hype" field (that distinction now belongs to the World Wide Web), and serious applications of virtual reality are appearing. Reflecting this trend, one of the major themes of VRAIS 96 is applications, beginning with the keynote presentation on the impact of virtual reality on the industrial enterprise. We have a major emphasis on the application of virtual reality to medicine, with an invited talk, an invited panel, a technical paper session and a tutorial. There are several application areas spread throughout the technical program. Virtual reality is still an unsolved problem, however. We continue to be dogged by hardware limitations, new and difficult software requirements, and the mysteries of how humans operate in VR. While great progress has been made, there is still a great deal of research to be done. Some of the technical issues that need to be resolved are introduced in the tutorials presented on Saturday and Sunday. The research itself is directly addressed in the technical sessions on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. There are 30 high-quality, peer-reviewed papers in these sessions (chosen out of 84 submissions), providing a comprehensive survey of ongoing work. In the evening we have two events. Monday night we have a dinner panel on new horizons in virtual reality, describing several personal visions of how the difficult problems of VR can be addressed. Tuesday night we will have an informal session discussing the various government studies that have examined research goals and priorities in virtual reality. If you are interested virtual reality, You will find this conference a rewarding experience. I look forward to seeing all of you in March! Steve Bryson VRAIS 96 General Chair ==== PROGRAM SUMMARY ==== ======== Saturday, March 30 TUTORIALS (see below for tutorial descriptions): ----8:30am-5:00pm: 1A: User Interface Issues for Virtual Systems 1B: Participants and Virtual Humans in VR ----8:30am-12:00pm: 1C: Fundamentals of Optics in Head Mounted Displays ----1:30pm-5:00pm 1D: Psychophysics and Technology of Virtual Acoustic Displays ======== Sunday, March 31 TUTORIALS (see below for tutorial descriptions): ----8:30am-5:00pm: 2A: Introduction to Haptic Simulation 2B: Interactive Visualization of Supercomputer Simulations ----8:30am-12:00pm: 2C: VR in Medicine Today ----1:30pm-5:00pm: 2D: The Conversational Computer: Integrating Multimodal Input Into Virtual Environments ======== Monday, April 1 ---- 8:45 - 9:00: Welcome ---- 9:00 - 10:00: Keynote Address "The Impact of Virtual Reality on the Industrial Enterprise" Jim Thomas, Battelle Pacific Northwest Laboratory ---- 10:15 - 12:00: Invited Panel Virtual Reality in Medicine Moderator: Richard Satava, ARPA Frederick P. Brooks, Jr., University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill William Lorensen, General Electric Joseph M. Rosen, Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center ---- 12:00 - 1:30: Lunch ---- 1:30 - 3:00: Augmented Reality/Telepresence "Immersive Video" Saied Moezzi, Arun Katkere, Don Kuramura and Ramesh Jain, University of California at San Diego "Affine Object Representations for Calibration-Free Augmented Reality" Kiriakos Kutulakos and James Vallino, University of Rochester "Registering Perspective Contours with 3-D Objects Without Correspondence Using Orthogonal Polynomials" Siu-Leong Iu, Rockwell Science Center ---- 3:30 - 5:30: Haptics "What You Can See is What You Can Feel - Development of Visual/Haptic Interface to Virtual Environment" Yasuyoshi Yokokohji, Ralph Hollis, and Takeo Kanade, Carnegie Mellon University "Human Performance Using the Rutgers Master II Force Feedback Interface" Lionel Fabiani, Laboratoire de Robotique de Paris Grigore Burdea, Noshir Langrana and Daniel Gomez, Rutgers University "Virtual Perambulator: A Novel Interface Device for Locomotion in Virtual Environment" Hiroo Iwata and Takashi Fujii, University of Tsukuba "Multisensory Data Sensualization Based on Human Perception" Tetsuro Ogi, Mitsubishi Research Institute Michitaka Hirose, University of Tokyo ---- 7:30 - 10:00: Dinner Banquet ---- 8:30 - 9:30: Dinner panel New Horizons in Virtual Reality Mark Bolas, Fake Space Labs, Inc. Steve Bryson, MRJ/NASA Ames Research Center Steve Feiner, Columbia University Scott Fisher, Telepresence Research, Inc. Sharon Stansfield, Sandia National Labs Michael Zyda, Naval Paperwork School --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======== Tuesday, April 2 ---- 9:00 - 10:00: Invited Talk "Virtual Reality and Medicine - From Training Systems to Performance Machines" Joseph M. Rosen, Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center ---- 10:30 - 12:00: Medicine "Multisensory Platform for Surgical Simulation" Roni Yagel, Yair Kurzion, Scott King, Ohio State University Don Stredney, Gregory Wiet, Dennis Sessanna, The Ohio Supercomputer Center Petra Schmalbrock, The Ohio State University Hospitals Louis Rosenberg, Immersion Corporation "Distributed Virtual Environment for Intravascular Tele-surgery Using Multimedia Tele-communication" Fumihito Arai, Mitsutaka Tanimoto, Toshio Fukuda, Koji Shimojima, Hideo Matsura, and Makoto Negoro, Nagoya University "A Virtual Airplane for Fear of Flying Therapy" Larry Hodges, Barbara Rothbaum, Benjamin Watson, G. Drew Kessler, and Dan Opdyke, Georgia Institute of Technology ---- 12:00 - 1:30: Lunch ---- 1:30 - 3:00: Modeling and Rendering "Exploiting Frame to Frame Coherence in a Virtual Reality System" Gernot Schaufler, Johannes Kepler Universitat "Gaze Directed Adaptive Rendering for Interacting with Virtual Space" Toshikazu Ohshima, Hiroyuki Yamamoto, and Hideyuki Tamura, Canon, Inc. "Generalized Surface and Volume Decimation for Unstructured Tessellated Domains" Kevin Renze and James Oliver, Iowa State University ---- 3:30 - 5:30: Evaluation/Verification "Validation and Verification of Virtual Environment Training Systems" David Zeltzer and Nicholas Pioch, MIT "Evaluation of an Air-to-air Combat Debriefing System Using a Head-Mounted Display" Philip Amburn, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill William Marshak, SYTRONICS, Inc. "Virtual Reality System Effects on Size-Distance Judgments in a Virtual Environment" Robert Eggleston, Armstrong Laboratory, WPAFB William Janson and Kenneth Aldrich, Logicon Technical Services "Haptic Specification of Environmental Events: Implications for the Design of Adaptive Virtual Interfaces" Bart Brickmann, Lawrence Hettinger, Merry Roe, and Liem Lu, Logicon Technical Services, Inc. Daniel Repperger and Michael Hass, Armstrong Laboratory, WPAFB ---- 7:30 - 9:00: Panel: Government Studies on Virtual Reality Michael J. Zyda, Naval Postgraduate School Steve Bryson, MRJ/NASA Ames Research Center --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======== Wednesday April 3 1996 ---- 8:30 - 10:00: Behavior "Decision Networks for Integrating the Behaviors of Virtual Agents and Avatars" Thomas Trias, Sonu Chopra, Barry Reich, Michael Moore, Norman Badler, Bonnie Webber, and Christopher Geib, University of Pennsylvania "An Example of the Construction of Virtual Table Tennis" Anthony Steed and Mel Slater, Queen Mary and Westfield College "Adding Intelligence to the Interface" M. Billinghurst and J. Savage, University of Washington ---- 10:30 - 12:00: Interaction "Closed Form and Geometric Algorithms for Real-Time Control of an Avatar" Sudhanshu Semwal, Ron Hightower, and Sharon Stansfield, Sandia National Laboratories "Inertial Head-Tracker Sensor Fusion by a Complementary Separate-Bias Kalman Filter" Eric Foxlin, MIT "Representative Spherical Plane Method and Composition of Object Manipulation Methods" Ryugo Kijima and Michitaka Hirose, University of Tokyo ---- 12:00 - 1:30: Lunch ---- 1:30 - 3:00: Distribution/Networks "Locales and Beacons: Precise and Efficient Support for Large Multi-User Virtual Environments" John Barrus and Richard Waters, Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories "A Network Communication Protocol for Distributed Virtual Environment Systems" G. Drew Kessler and Larry Hodges, Georgia Institute of Technology "Network Topologies for Scalable Multi-User Virtual Environments" Thomas Funkhouser, AT&T Bell Laboratories ---- 3:30 - 5:30: Visualization "Interactive Information Visualization for Exploratory Intelligence Data Analysis" John Risch, Richard May, and James Thomas, Pacific Northwest Laboratory "The Virtual Annotation System" Reid Harmon, Walter Patterson, William Ribarsky, and Jay Bolter, Georgia Institute of Technology "ScienceSpace: Virtual Realities for Learning Complex and Abstract Scientific Concepts" Chris Dede, Marilyn Salzman, George Mason University R. Bowen Loftin, NASA/JSC "Multi-Perspective Collaborative Design in Persistent Networked Virtual Environments" Jason Leigh, Andrew Johnson, Christina Vasilakis, and Thomas DeFanti, University of Illinois at Chicago -------------------------------------------------------------- ==== GENERAL INFORMATION ==== ==== LOCATION AND ACCOMMODATIONS ==== ** DEADLINE FOR HOTEL RESERVATIONS: March 8, 1996 ** ==== TRANSPORTATION FROM THE AIRPORT ==== The Marriott provides complimentary shuttle service to and from San Jose airport for guests of the hotel every 30 minutes. You may also request a shuttle pick-up at the courtesy phone located in the Baggage Claim area. Taxi fare runs between $8 and $10. ==== EXHIBITS ==== There will be an exhibits area at VRAIS '96. Vendors and publishers will be displaying the latest technology in Virtual Reality. Exhibits are open to all conference participants. For exhibit information, contact: Henry Sowizral Boeing Computer Services P.O. Box 24346, MS 7L-48 Seattle, WA 98124-0346 Email: sowizral@atc.boeing.com Phone: (206) 865-2161 Fax: (206) 865-2965 ==== FOR MORE INFORMATION === Please contact the VRAIS '96 Symposium office if you have questions or require further information about any aspect of the conference. IEEE VRAIS '96 P.O. Box 339 Moffett Field, CA 94035 USA Phone: (415) 604-4524 Fax: (415) 604-3957 Email: vrais@eece.unm.edu ==== REFUND POLICY ==== If your registration must be canceled, your fee will be refunded less $50 U.S. administration costs. You must notify us in writing by March 8, 1996. No refunds can be given after this date. ==== VRAIS '96 CONFERENCE REGISTRATION FORM ==== Santa Clara Marriott Hotel Santa Clara, California March 30 - April 3, 1996 Last Name _______________________________________________________________ First Name/Middle _______________________________________________________ IEEE Membership # _______________________________________________________ (must be entered to qualify for discount) Mailing Address _________________________________________________________ City _________________________ State ___________ Postal Code ____________ Country _________________ E-mail ________________________________________ Office Telephone ________________________________________________________ Fax _____________________________________________________________________ TO APPEAR ON BADGE Name: ___________________________________________________________________ Affiliation: ____________________________________________________________ City/State: _____________________________________________________________ CONFERENCE REGISTRATION FEES ENCLOSED (includes one set of Proceedings) Before March 2, 1996 After March 2, 1996 IEEE Member _____ $300 _____ $400 Non Members _____ $400 _____ $500 *Students _____ $95 _____ $110 * Students must include letter from Dept. Head verifying full-time student status I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL PROCEEDINGS: Number of Copies _______ X $35 = TOTAL $_________ Tutorial Registration Fees: Tutorials will be held on Saturday, March 30 and Sunday, March 31. Tutorials may be canceled and a refund issued if there is an insufficient number of registrants. Registration will be on a first-come, first-served basis. Only registered conference participants may register for tutorials. Students must supply a letter >from Dept. Head verifying full-time student status. IEEE Member IEEE Member Non-Member Non-Member by March 2 after March 2 by March 2 after March 2 Full-Day Tutorial $250 $300 $315 $380 Half-Day Tutorial $175 $210 $220 $265 Student Student by March 2 after March 2 Full-Day Tutorial $125 $150 Half-Day Tutorial $80 $110 Tutorial Selection Please indicate tutorial #'s (e.g., 1A, 2C) Tutorial # Alternate ____ One Tutorial ____ ____ ____ Two Tutorials ___ ___ ____ ____ Three Tutorials ___ ___ ___ ____ ____ Four Tutorials ___ ___ ___ ___ ____ Payment Enclosed: Registration Fees: $________________ Tutorial Fees: $________________ Additional Proceedings: $________________ GRAND TOTAL ENCLOSED: $________________ Please enclose checks payable to "IEEE, Inc. 1996 Virtual Reality Annual International Symposium" Check # ____________ Amount $ ____________ OR...... Credit Card # ____________________________________ Exp. 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Mail hotel reservation form to: Santa Clara Marriott Hotel 2700 Mission College Boulevard Santa Clara, CA 95052-8181 attn: Group Reservations Phone: (800) 228-9290, (408) 988-1500 (Be sure to mention IEEE VRAIS when making a phone reservation) Fax: (408) 748-9529 Arrival Date: __________________ Arrival Time: __________________ Departure Date: ________________ Departure Time: ________________ Occupancy Room Type Request __Single - $97 __King __Smoking __Double - $97 __Double/Double __Nonsmoking Name:______________________________________________________________ Company: __________________________________________________________ Address: __________________________________________________________ City/State/Zip/Country: ___________________________________________ Telephone: ________________________________________________________ Sharing Room with: ________________________________________________ Check if handicapped accommodations required: ______ Name on Credit Card: ______________________________________________ Credit Card Number: _______________________________________________ American Express_______ Visa________ MasterCard________ Discover_______ Diners Club_______ Authorized Signature: ______________________ Expiration Date:_____________ One night's deposit ($106.22 incl. tax) enclosed $_________ Make check payable to Marriott. Reservations are subject to cancellation after 6PM unless held by one night's deposit or credit card guarantee. Marriott check-in time is 3:00PM. Check-out time is 11:00AM. Reservations must include a first night's deposit, plus 9.5% tax ($106.22) or guarantee with accepted credit card. ==== TUTORIAL DESCRIPTIONS ==== Tutorial 1A: User Interface Issues for Virtual Systems Chris Esposito, Boeing This tutorial presents a view of what the user interface and virtual reality communities have to offer one another. We will do this by discussing what the VR community knows about the existing body of UI research, the new opportunities and challenges that VR has for the UI community, and what the VR community has learned that modifies or extends what we know about interfaces. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tutorial 1B: Participants and Virtual Humans in VR N. Thalmann, Univ. of Geneva D. Thalmann, EPFL This tutorial will discuss the integration of virtual humans in virtual reality, the interaction of a participant with these virtual humans and the representation of the participant in a virtual world. We will discuss the state-of-the-art in these areas and the essential technologies for interactive entertainment and games, emphasizing real-time animation techniques, real-time motion tracking and communication between the participant and the virtual humans. Included will be a discussion of the concept of virtual actors and the main techniques to create and animate them. We will also present the general concept of task-level animation and autonomous actors reacting to their environment and making decisions based on perception systems, memory and reasoning, with examples of vision-based navigation and games. Finally, the interaction between real humans and virtual humans inside the virtual space will be presented with applications in telecooperative work. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tutorial 1C: Fundamentals of Optics in Head Mounted Displays J. Rolland, Univ. of North Carolina Head-mounted displays (HMD) have been designed since the 60's, yet we still await the "ultimate" high-resolution, large field of view HMD. As the technology evolves with higher quality displays and new feasible approaches to larger field of views, some basic knowledge of what is achievable with today's technology, coupled with an analysis of the application, may help identify the best choices. This tutorial will present the basic principles of optical imaging in HMDs, different approaches to HMD design, how the optics interface to the graphical software, calibration issues, and image quality criteria, such as the effect of optical aberrations, and what one needs to know about display photometry. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tutorial 1D: Psychophysics and Technology of Virtual Acoustic Displays E. Wenzel, NASA; S. Foster, Crystal River Engineering; N. Miner, Sandia National Laboratories Virtual acoustics is the simulation of the complex acoustic field experienced by a listener within an environment. The three main components of the virtual acoustic sound process are: sound generation, environmental effects modeling and 3-D localization or auralization. This half-day tutorial will provide students with insight into state-of-the-art research, techniques, technologies and issues of the entire virtual acoustic process. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tutorial 2A: Introduction to Haptic Simulation P. Buttolo, B. Hannaford, Univ. of Washington; W. McNeeley, Boeing This course provides an introduction to fundamental concepts, issues and progress in the quest for safe and effective force servers for immersive VR applications. It is intended to bridge the technocultural gap between haptics and non-haptics VR specialists. Relevant fundamental concepts are drawn from physics, biomechanics and robotics. This establishes the background for subsequent application-oriented discussions of haptic architectures, system requirements, system interfacing, and collaborative haptics. This body of formal knowledge is then illustrated with leading-edge examples, such as robot graphics for astronaut EVA training, a pen-based force display, and experimentation into collaborative distributed haptics over the Internet. Some of these examples are further illustrated and coordinated with hands-on demonstrations in the Exhibits area. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tutorial 2B: Interactive Visualization of Supercomputer Simulations R. Stevens, T. Disz, M. Papka, Argonne National Laboratories; V. Taylor, Northwestern Univ. This course will discuss the integration of interactive visualization environments with supercomputers used for simulation of scientific applications. The topics include interactive visualization technology (tracking, display systems, sound, modeling), communication mechanisms (software and hardware) needed for system integration, system performance, and the use of multiple visualization systems. Experience with the Cave Automatic Virtual Environment (CAVE) connected to an IBM SP machine will be used to illustrate concepts. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tutorial 2C: VR in Medicine Today K. Vosburgh, W. Lorensen, GE; G. Burdea, Rutgers Univ. In this tutorial, we will discuss the application of VR to medicine, both in the training of physicians and in patient care. We will examine the technical basis of this work, the current status of several commercial and academic developments, and the prospects for the future. We will review the sources of generic and specific anatomical information, its organization and application to 3D models, efforts to develop "standard" 3D anatomical data bases, the limitations and prospects for improving models derived from diagnostic imaging data bases, and various approaches to displaying the information. We will discuss the use of 3D models in the training of surgeons, with emphasis on incorporation of realistic tactile feedback and perturbation of the model structures, and the possible extension of this approach to telesurgery. In addition, the use of VR technology in clinical experiments will be covered, including teleradiology, the use of 3D models in surgical planning, the application of video merging techniques to real time surgery, and real time image acquisition and display during surgery. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tutorial 2D: The Conversational Computer: Integrating Multimodal Input into Virtual Environments M. Billinghurst, W. J. King, University of Washington; D. Koons, MIT Nearly thirty years ago, Nicholas Negroponte postulated the conversational computer, a machine that humans could interact with in the same way that they do with each other, using voice, gesture, facial expression, gaze and body language. Though it is still unrealized today, many of the underlying technologies have been developed. In this tutorial we aim to show how these technologies can be used to integrate multimodal input into virtual environments. We will introduce the techniques used in creating virtual worlds with which users can interact using intuitive combinations of voice, gesture and facial expressions. Participants will also become familiar with previous successful multi-modal interfaces as well as critical areas for future research. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ==== ORGANIZING COMMITTEE ==== General Chair: Steve Bryson MRJ/NASA Ames Research Center Program Co-Chairs: Sharon Stansfield Sandia National Labs Michael J. Zyda Naval Postgraduate School Finance Chair: Maria Marsilio MRJ/NASA Ames Research Center Tutorials Chair: Chris Codella IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Exhibits Co-Chairs: Henry Sowizral Boeing Computer Services Karen Haines University of New Mexico Publicity Co-Chairs: John Hardman MRJ/NASA Ames Research Center Leslie Schlecht MRJ/NASA Ames Research Center Registration Chair: Lyz Baumiller MRJ/NASA Ames Research Center Local Arrangements Co-Chairs: Sandy Johan NASA Ames Research Center Leslie Schlecht MRJ/NASA Ames Research Center Publications Chair: Larry Rosenblum Naval Research Laboratory Video Chair: Joseph M. Rosen Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center Student Volunteer Chair: Mark Green University of Alberta Press Relations Chair: Nadine Miner Sandia National Laboratories ==== PROGRAM COMMITTEE ==== Bernard D. Adelstein, Sterling Software/NASA Ames Research Center Joanna Alexander, Zombie Inc. Ron Azuma, Hughes Research Laboratories Norman Badler, University of Pennsylvania Woodrow Barfield, University of Washington Stephen Benton, MIT Chuck Blanchard, Talisman Dynamics, Inc. Mark Bolas, Fake Space Labs Kellogg Booth, University of British Columbia Pere Brunet, Polytechnical University of Catalonia Grigore Burdea, Rutgers University Thomas P. Caudell, University of New Mexico Chris Codella, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Carolina Cruz-Neira, Iowa State University Mike Daily, Hughes Research Labs Michael Deering, Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation Rae Earnshaw, University of Leeds Steve Ellis, NASA Ames Research Center Jose Encarnacao, Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Kim Fairchild, National University of Singapore Steve Feiner, Columbia University Wolfgang Felger, Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Scott Foster, Crystal River Engineering Henry Fuchs, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Thomas Funkhouser, AT&T Bell Laboratories Michael Gigante, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology Martin Goebel, Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Mark Green, University of Alberta Hideki Hashimoto, University of Tokyo Michitaka Hirose, University of Tokyo Larry Hodges, Georgia Tech John Hollerbach, University of Utah Philip Hubbard, Cornell University Siu-Leong Iu, Rockwell Science Center Hiroo Iwata, University of Tsukuba Rob Jacob, Tufts University Adam Janin, Boeing Computer Services Mary Kaiser, NASA Ames Research Center Ken-ichi Kameyama, Toshiba R&D Center Arie Kaufman, SUNY, Stony Brook Myron Krueger, Artificial Reality James Lackner, Ashton Graybiel Spatial Orientation Laboratory Andy Liu, Nissan Cambridge Basic Research Nadia Magnenat-Thalmann, University of Geneva Michael W. McGreevy, NASA Ames Research Center Margaret Minsky, Interval Dinesh Manocha, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Junji Nomura, Matsushita Electric Works, Ltd. Steve Pieper, Medical Media Systems Ronald Pose, Monash University Dennis Proffitt, University of Virginia Warren Robinett, Virtual Reality Games, Inc. Jannick Rolland, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Joseph M. Rosen, Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center Larry Rosenblum, Naval Research Laboratory Rick Satava, Advanced Research Projects Agency Luis Serra, National University of Singapore Gurminder Singh, National University of Singapore Mel Slater, QMW University of London Henry Sowizral, Boeing Computer Services Mandayam A. Srinivasan, MIT Lawrence W. Stark, University of California at Berkeley Susumu Tachi, University of Tokyo Daniel Thalmann, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology James Thomas, Battelle Pacific Northwest Laboratory Elizabeth Wenzel, NASA Ames Research Center Alan Wexelblat, MIT David Zeltzer, MIT ********************************************************************** *********************************************************************** Call for Papers Virtual Reality Software and Technology 1996 - VRST'96 University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong July 1-4, 1996 Sponsored by: ACM SIGCHI and SIGGRAPH (tentative) Virtual Reality Software and Technology (VRST) is a major international conference on the technical aspects of virtual reality. VRST'94 was held in Singapore, VRST'95 was held in Japan, and in 1996 it will be held in Hong Kong. This is a good opportunity to visit Hong Kong less than a year before it switches from British to Chinese rule. VRST attracts a wide range of international attendees, and offers an excellent opportunity to sample state of the art research >from many international VR research centers. VRST offers a high quality technical program, with papers reviewed by an international program committee. The proceedings for VRST'96 will be published by ACM, and will be available internationally after the conference through ACM and its agents. Papers are solicited on all technical aspects of virtual reality and related technologies, includ- ing, but not limited to, the following topics: Input Devices Haptic Feedback Geometrical Modeling Animation Distributed Environments Simulation Time Critical Rendering 3D Interaction Techniques VR Software Environment Design Collision Detection Games and Entertainment Five copies of technical papers must be sent to one of the program co-chairs by February 1, 1996. All papers must have a cover letter containing the name and address of the contact author, along with email address, office phone and FAX number. Send papers to the following address: Michael Zyda Kim Fairchild Naval Postgraduate School Institute of System's Science Code CS/Zk, Dept. of Computer Science National University of Singapore Spanagel Hall 516 Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Kent Ridge Monterey, California 93943-5118 Singapore 0511 Further information on VRST'96 can be obtained from the general chair at the following address: Dr. Mark Green Department of Computing Science University of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta, T6G 2H1, Canada mark@cs.ualberta.ca (403) 492-4584 (403) 492-1071 (FAX) Information can also be obtained from the VRST'96 WEB page at the URL http://web.cs.ualberta.ca/~mark/vrst96. ************* "INTERNET 2001" CALL FOR PAPERS ********************************* *** CALL FOR PAPERS *** Book: IEEE COMPUTER SOCIETY PRESS Focus Issue: IEEE COMPUTER MAGAZINE [Internet 2001] Editors: Don Brutzman, Mike Macedonia and Mike Zyda Advisors: Steve Deering and Ted Lewis Computer Science Department, Naval Postgraduate School Monterey California 93943-5000 USA 408.656.2149/401.453.6363/408.656.2903 voice, 408.656.3679 fax brutzman@nps.navy.mil, mmacedon@crcg.edu, zyda@trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil Internet 2001 will be the theme of the August 1996 issue of IEEE COMPUTER and a companion IEEE Computer Society Press book. Internet 2001 will provide a comprehensive forward-looking overview of the rapidly evolving global network of networks. Many articles and books currently discuss the current state of the Internet. None describe the Internet at the turn of the century. This special issue and book will provide a road map to the future, showing where everything is going and the likely paths to get there. In the special focus issue of IEEE COMPUTER we expect to print two to three dozen single page extended abstracts, each focused on a single area of interest identified in the accompanying table. Simultaneously we plan to edit and publish full-length versions of submitted papers in a companion book through the IEEE Computer Society Press. The review process is likely to be highly competitive. We hope to attract papers of the highest caliber which present crucial concepts and defining issues. We expect this reference to enjoy wide distribution and provide value for years to come. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Internet Size, Connectivity, Bandwidth and Access o Who pays, who controls, who can connect, who can't o Topology and network management, local and global o Ubiquitous computing, distributed systems, latency o Digital convergence: computer networking, cable television, telephony o Satellite coverage, new technologies, perceived limits to growth o Connecting everyone to everything * Routing and Protocols o Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) and beyond o Low-level protocols, new transmission media o Wireless networks o Multicast o Entity/Application-Layer communication protocols o High performance networking: B-ISDN, ATM, SONET, etc. * Information Content and Context: the World-Wide Web (WWW) o HyperText Markup Language (html) o HyperText Transfer Protocol (http) o Virtual Reality Modeling Language (vrml) o Global databases and digital libraries o Electronic publishing, content indexing, searching * Applications in Cyberspace o Agents and Artificial Intelligence (AI) o Cooperative workspaces o Information appliances, robots, teleoperation o Virtual environments (VEs) * Commerce o Paying money over the network o Entertainment o Enterprise networking o Virtual corporations o Information economies * Security, Privacy and Authentication o Encryption and Digital Signatures o Hacking and cracking: individual and global vulnerabilities * Global and National Information Infrastructure o Internationalization and connecting the third world o Education and distance learning o Conduct of scientific research o Governmental and social change, democratization and empowerment o Public health and medicine * Standards and Internet Development o Professional societies and standards organizations o Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Authors are asked to identify driving forces, key bottlenecks, notable failures and open challenges in specific subject areas. Each article will be organized to describe one aspect of the present-day Internet, where we want it to be in the year 2001, and how we might get there. Perceived limits to growth and the ability to scale up indefinitely are of particular interest. The deadline for papers is January 8, 1996. Referees are also encouraged to volunteer. Both short (1 magazine page, 900-1000 words) and long (6-8 manuscript pages, 3300-4400 words) versions of each paper must be submitted for review. Color figures will be accepted and reproduced as appropriate. For complete information and to submit papers, contact Don Brutzman (brutzman@nps.navy.mil), Mike Macedonia (mmacedon@crcg.edu) or Mike Zyda (zyda@trouble.cs.nps.navy.mil), Computer Science Department, Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey California 93943-5000 USA, 408.656.2149/401.453.6363/408.656.2903 voice, 408.656.3679 fax. Sage advice and adult supervision are provided by Steve Deering (deering@parc.xerox.com) and Ted Lewis (lewis@cs.nps.navy.mil). The IEEE COMPUTER Web page for author information is http://info.computer.org:80/pubs/computer/edguide.htm. Note that this style guide applies to the one-page summary version. We will put a pointer to the Computer Society Press style guide when it is online. Information on the next-generation Internet Protocol (IPng, IPv6) is available at http://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng/html/ipng-main.html This call for papers is at http://www.stl.nps.navy.mil/~brutzman/2001 We look forward to receiving your paper submission. Last update: 28 OCT 95 ****************************************************************************** Position in Computer Science at the Naval Postgraduate School The Computer Science Department invites applications for tenure-track faculty at all ranks. Applicants should have a Ph.D. in Computer Science or a closely related field and be committed to high-quality teaching and research. Of particular interest are the fields of Image Understanding, Computer Networks, Formal Methods in Software Engineering and Computer Graphics/Virtual Reality. Outstanding applicants in other research areas will also be considered. Senior applicants must have distinguished research records. Applicants for short-term faculty positions will also be considered. The Department consists of 29 full-time faculty and offers M.S. and Ph.D. degrees in Computer Science. Students are highly motivated military officers or civilian employees of the U.S. Department of Defense and allied countries, and are fully supported by their sponsoring organizations during their studies. The Department plays a very active role in DoD research in artificial intelligence/robotics, computer communications, computer graphics/virtual reality, computer security, computer systems/architecture, databases/ data engineering, parallel computing, and software engineering/real-time systems with a growing research budget that exceeded three million dollars in FY94. Departmental facilities (supported by ten full-time computer professionals) include seven research and instructional laboratories equipped with extensive state-of-the-art workstations including multi-processor SGI and Sun machines. The Computer Science Department has the inherent advantage of having an intimate relationship with military and governmental sponsors. In addition, NPS has industrial and non-government research sponsors. The School has easy access to Silicon Valley companies, and Monterey Peninsula area provides a pleasant coastal. climate. Send full resume and an abstract of a 45 minute talk to Prof. Yutaka Kanayama Chair, Faculty Search Committee, Computer Science Department, Code CS, Naval Postgraduate School Monterey, CA. 93943-5118 Telephone: 408-656-2449/2095 Fax: 408-656-2814 E-mail: kanayama@cs.nps.navy.mil The Naval Postgraduate School is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. *************************************************************************** VR Programmers Desired! The Graphics and Video Laboratory in the Computer Science Department at the Naval Postgraduate School is seeking resumes >from qualified individuals for two to four year term appointments as research programmers for our NPSNET research project. NPSNET is a visual simulation system running on SGI workstations and utilizing the Distributed Interactive Simulation (DIS) networking protocol. Currently, NPSNET utilizes the Performer run-time API and the UPenn Jack Motion Library to provide a user the ability to interactively participate in a networked virtual reality simulation. The system is written in C++ and C and consists of over 100,000 lines of code. NPSNET is widely distributed as free software available via either anonymous FTP or the World Wide Web and is used by over 100 government, private and academic sites. Our current research focus is in the following areas: - Inserting the individual into the DIS networked virtual environment. Related tasks include supporting new and novel input devices such as the Sarcos Uniport and Treadport devices, Polhemus motion sensors for head and limb tracking, an omni-directional treadmill, the Biomuse sensors, joystick/throttle and others. Challenges involve representing large numbers of articulated human icons in a DIS simulation and variable resolution human icons. - Efficiently using large data sets representing the terrain in the virtual environment. Related tasks include paging of terrain at run-time and using "working sets" so that all data need not be memory resident and providing the capability to "fly around the world" without significant notice of any decrease in visual performance. Other issues involve dynamic terrain, effects of weather and mobility. - Modeling and visually representing environmental effects such as time-of-day, haze, fog, weather (rain/snow), smoke, clouds, etc. Issues involve visual appeal, run-time performance and accuracy of impeding performance to complete tasks. - Efficiently representing large numbers of (>5000) players in a DIS exercise by using an intelligent networking manager, IP Multicast, and other techniques. Other related tasks are designing and experimenting with network protocols for exercise management and visual systems control. - Spatial audio from the perspective of the individual in the virtual environment. Related tasks are modeling for the head-related transfer functions, averaging of sounds between speakers and using special effect processors to more accurately simulate the proper effects of the environment on sounds. Our research group receives much visibility in both the general research and military arenas having demonstrated our research twice at SIGGRAPH, and for high-ranking military officers and government officials including the Army Chief of Staff, the Vice Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Secretary of the Army, the Secretary of Defense, and congressional and presidential technology advisors. Facilities include: 2 RE2 Onyxs, each with 4 processors and one with an MCO, 3 Reality Engine 1s, 6 Indigo II Extremes, 20 Indigo I Elan/XLs, and 10 Indys. 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From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 29 05:53:58 1996 Received: from pax.inria.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:53:16 -0800 Received: from [138.96.24.178] by pax.inria.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA02970; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:53:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:53:01 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Stephen Casner From: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) Subject: Re: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions Cc: rem-conf@es.net At 1:01 AM 28/1/96, Stephen Casner wrote: >My recommendation for this particular request is that two of the >three requested static payload types be assigned, for DVI4 at 11025 >and 22050 Hz. I believe that many applications that would use 44100 >Hz sampling are likely to also want two channels, as Joe noted in his >request when he said that support for two channels at these >frequency rates was also desired but not needed yet. The method for >packing of samples for multiple channels of DVI4 is listed in the >profile document as "for further study", but I would hope that Joe's >application and others like it can serve as the motivation to select >and specify a suitable packing method. Steve, I wonder whether we actually need separate code points for DVI at 44, 22, 11 and - why not - 5 khz. We need a DVI payload header in any case, to hold the initial predictor (16 bits) and the initial index value (7 bits for 0..88). We can easily encode 4 clock values (5, 11, 22, 44) and four sampling values (3-bit..6-bit). We may or may not need to encode the actual number of samples, e.g. to note whether the last octet of the payload contains one or two 4-bit samples. This encoding is not needed if we set a restriction that packets should always contains 4*N 3-bit samples or 2*N 4..6 bit samples. Specifying a 32 bit payload header that contains: 3 3 2 1 0 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 +-------+-------+---------------+-------------------------------+ | rate | sample| initial index | initial predictor value | +-------+-------+---------------+-------------------------------+ would kill a flock of partridges with a single payload shot. Actually, it would make some sense to document this in a one page RFC. Christian Huitema From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 29 11:40:56 1996 Received: from POSTAL.CSELT.STET.IT by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:40:13 -0800 Received: from [163.162.15.44] (demac.cselt.stet.it) by POSTAL.CSELT.STET.IT (PMDF V4.2-15 #4385) id <01I0LAASAKOG004MVE@POSTAL.CSELT.STET.IT>; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:39:35 MET Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:44:51 +0200 From: Dario.Ercole@cselt.stet.it (Dario Ercole) Subject: Decoding M-JPEG streams To: rem-conf@es.net Message-id: X-Envelope-to: rem-conf@es.net MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Sender: ercole_eud@postal.cselt.stet.it Hello I am looking for MBone applications (like nv or ivs) able to decode (in software) Motion-JPEG sequences, generated maybe in hardware (with loss, os course). Any idea ? Thanks -- Dario ================================================================ Dario ERCOLE - CSELT S.p.a. Via Reiss Romoli 274, 10148 Torino (Italy) Tel: +39 11 228 5051 - Fax: +39 11 228 5069 e-mail: Dario.Ercole@cselt.stet.it From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 29 12:02:58 1996 Received: from pax.inria.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:02:22 -0800 Received: from [138.96.24.178] by pax.inria.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA09582; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:01:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:01:39 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Mark Handley From: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) Subject: Re: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions Cc: Stephen Casner , rem-conf@es.net At 4:26 PM 29/1/96, Mark Handley wrote: >>I wonder whether we actually need separate code points for DVI at 44, 22, >>11 and - why not - 5 khz. We need a DVI payload header in any case, to >>hold the initial predictor (16 bits) and the initial index value (7 bits >>for 0..88). We can easily encode 4 clock values (5, 11, 22, 44) and four >>sampling values (3-bit..6-bit). We may or may not need to encode the >>actual number of samples, e.g. to note whether the last octet of the >>payload contains one or two 4-bit samples. This encoding is not needed if >>we set a restriction that packets should always contains 4*N 3-bit samples >>or 2*N 4..6 bit samples. Specifying a 32 bit payload header that contains: >> >> 3 3 2 1 0 >> 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 >> +-------+-------+---------------+-------------------------------+ >> | rate | sample| initial index | initial predictor value | >> +-------+-------+---------------+-------------------------------+ >> >>would kill a flock of partridges with a single payload shot. Actually, it >>would make some sense to document this in a one page RFC. > >Several questions raise themselves with any scheme that packs multiple >encodings into one payload type (such as your DVI scheme and our >redundant encoding scheme): > > - are you supposed to be able to decide on a decoding tool based >entirely on the payload type? Yes. Well, in fact, I would expect most tools to be able to decode several payload types. >If we pack multiple clock-rates and multiple quantisation values into >one encoding, how should meta-conferencing tools like sd/sdr deal with >it? What of the current practice of switching from one payload type to another, say from PCM to DVI to GSM ? We currently do it quite often, in the middle of sessions. How does this affect SD/SDR ? >There is of course no problem if you have a single tool that can >cope with any DVI encoding you care to throw at it, but this may not >be the case, and therefore you need extra information to decide on a >suitable tool for participation. We have already experimented with this. The quantization itself is not a very big problem. After all, variable quantization is the norm in video applications, we have seen it with H.261 but also with NV. A dvi software codec that supports variable quantization is about 20 lines longer than one which does not. Variable clock, or rather this specific form of variable clock, is not a problem either -- at worst, it can be implemented through subsampling or filtered repeats. > We have a mechanism for doing this >in SDP (or will have when I get the new draft out) but if you have >such a mechanism, you can equally well use dynamic payload types. If >you don't have such an out-of-band mechanism, then your static >"generic-DVI" payload type may not help you decide whether you can >participate and which tool to use. Mark, you do not impress me. SDR already has to cope with a list of payload types. Dont tell me you would not be able to cope with a list of "payload.version". What would you think of the alternative, to create new 16 payload types ? >Another aspect to this is rules about what encodings you can send to >communicate with someone. RTP has the implicit assumption (in the >absence of any connection setup protocol) that if someone is sending >you payload-type X, then if you use payload-type X too, everything >should be OK. With a generic-DVI encoding, is this still the case, or >do I need to send the same clock rate and quantisation value? Or just >the same clock rate, but any quantisation value? I would assume that if we define the payload type that way, all implementations would trivially support all variants. >None of this is a really strong reason not to pack several DVI >encodings into one payload type, but it does mean there are a whole >lot of assumptions that need to be made explicit if you do so. > >Personally, I think that number-of-quantisation-bits is a useful >overloading of payload type, but that clock-rate opens a whole can of >worms I'd rather not get into. Fact is, we do have working code for multiple quantifications, but have only done very limited tests with multiple clock rates. Your proposal is an acceptable second choice. Christian Huitema From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 29 12:13:38 1996 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:13:08 -0800 Received: from shrew.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:25:53 +0000 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: University College London, CS Dept. X-Phone: +44 171 419 3666 To: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) cc: Stephen Casner , rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:53:01 +0100." Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:26:20 +0000 Message-ID: <3652.822932780@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Sender: M.Handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk >I wonder whether we actually need separate code points for DVI at 44, 22, >11 and - why not - 5 khz. We need a DVI payload header in any case, to >hold the initial predictor (16 bits) and the initial index value (7 bits >for 0..88). We can easily encode 4 clock values (5, 11, 22, 44) and four >sampling values (3-bit..6-bit). We may or may not need to encode the >actual number of samples, e.g. to note whether the last octet of the >payload contains one or two 4-bit samples. This encoding is not needed if >we set a restriction that packets should always contains 4*N 3-bit samples >or 2*N 4..6 bit samples. Specifying a 32 bit payload header that contains: > > 3 3 2 1 0 > 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 > +-------+-------+---------------+-------------------------------+ > | rate | sample| initial index | initial predictor value | > +-------+-------+---------------+-------------------------------+ > >would kill a flock of partridges with a single payload shot. Actually, it >would make some sense to document this in a one page RFC. Several questions raise themselves with any scheme that packs multiple encodings into one payload type (such as your DVI scheme and our redundant encoding scheme): - are you supposed to be able to decide on a decoding tool based entirely on the payload type? If we pack multiple clock-rates and multiple quantisation values into one encoding, how should meta-conferencing tools like sd/sdr deal with it? There is of course no problem if you have a single tool that can cope with any DVI encoding you care to throw at it, but this may not be the case, and therefore you need extra information to decide on a suitable tool for participation. We have a mechanism for doing this in SDP (or will have when I get the new draft out) but if you have such a mechanism, you can equally well use dynamic payload types. If you don't have such an out-of-band mechanism, then your static "generic-DVI" payload type may not help you decide whether you can participate and which tool to use. Another aspect to this is rules about what encodings you can send to communicate with someone. RTP has the implicit assumption (in the absence of any connection setup protocol) that if someone is sending you payload-type X, then if you use payload-type X too, everything should be OK. With a generic-DVI encoding, is this still the case, or do I need to send the same clock rate and quantisation value? Or just the same clock rate, but any quantisation value? None of this is a really strong reason not to pack several DVI encodings into one payload type, but it does mean there are a whole lot of assumptions that need to be made explicit if you do so. Personally, I think that number-of-quantisation-bits is a useful overloading of payload type, but that clock-rate opens a whole can of worms I'd rather not get into. Mark From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 29 13:06:15 1996 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:05:30 -0800 Received: from shrew.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:50:36 +0000 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: University College London, CS Dept. X-Phone: +44 171 419 3666 To: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) cc: Stephen Casner , rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:01:39 +0100." Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:51:04 +0000 Message-ID: <4007.822937864@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Sender: M.Handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk >>If we pack multiple clock-rates and multiple quantisation values into >>one encoding, how should meta-conferencing tools like sd/sdr deal with >>it? > >What of the current practice of switching from one payload type to another, >say from PCM to DVI to GSM ? We currently do it quite often, in the middle >of sessions. How does this affect SD/SDR ? We do it because everyone is using vat, and everyone knows that. We're moving out of the world where you can assume everyone is using the same tool. We discussed this issue several times on confctrl about 6 months ago - basically you have two choices - either a list of permitted encodings (which has several problems) or specify a well-known group of encodings. Or both. Yes you could specify the "generic-DVI" group, or you could specify the clock-rate/quantisation values individually. You have to do the latter for linear encodings now anyway, as they use dynamic payload-types to avoid the problem. If we do this for linear encodings, why not for DVI? Perhaps the issue isn't clear cut either way, so I guess what we need is a policy here. >>There is of course no problem if you have a single tool that can >>cope with any DVI encoding you care to throw at it, but this may not >>be the case, and therefore you need extra information to decide on a >>suitable tool for participation. > >Variable clock, or rather this specific form of variable >clock, is not a problem either -- at worst, it can be implemented through >subsampling or filtered repeats. I wasn't saying it was impossible - just that it may not be desirable - what are the performance/quality tradeoffs of variable clock-rate encodings? How much distortion do you introduce doing this at both sender and receiver if you wanted an adaptive encoder? My reading of the RTP spec (which seems somewhat ambiguously worded on this issue) is that you can only have one clock-rate per payload type in any specific session. Specifically the spec says that the sampling clock must increase monotonically and linearly. Now, you could change this for DVI, but to do so may change some of the assumptions about RTP, and certainly involves changing the RTP spec. [much deleted] >>Personally, I think that number-of-quantisation-bits is a useful >>overloading of payload type, but that clock-rate opens a whole can of >>worms I'd rather not get into. > >Fact is, we do have working code for multiple quantifications, but have >only done very limited tests with multiple clock rates. Your proposal is >an acceptable second choice. I'd like to see the work on multiple clock rates - it does sound interesting, and if anyone is serious about doing this in the future for *any* encoding, we may need to look again at the RTP spec. Mark From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 29 14:32:36 1996 Received: from max3.rrze.uni-erlangen.de by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:31:30 -0800 Received: from opus.rrze.uni-erlangen.de by max3.rrze.uni-erlangen.de; Mon, 29 Jan 96 20:31:03 +0100 Received: from local by opus (SMI-8.6/cl-RRZE) id TAA15794; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:31:02 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:31:02 GMT From: Edgar Hellfritsch To: rem-conf@es.net, videophone@es.net Subject: Projects/Research on WAN Teleconferencing ? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Message-Id: <310d20771c50002@max3.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> hi out there, does anyone know of/participate in any (see subject)? is there a web page on the matter collecting the global goings-on? i'm thinking about analyzing a vc scenario for a thesis and would like to know first place what has been done already (or is currently being done). (quite makes sense, doesn't it?) so, if you know something to my aid, please send mail. thanks a bundle and excuse my accent, edgar ___________________________________________________________________\,_____ Friedrich-Alexander-Universitaet Edgar Hellfritsch '` Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen Tel. +49.9131.858735, Fax 302941 Martensstr. 1 hellfritsch@rrze.uni-erlangen.de 91058 Erlangen, Germany http://www.uni-erlangen.de/~unrz47/ From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 29 16:14:24 1996 Received: from rpi.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:13:39 -0800 Received: from hibp.ecse.rpi.edu (hibp7.ecse.rpi.edu) by rpi.edu (4.1/SMHUB41); id AA13033; Mon, 29 Jan 96 16:13:37 EST for rem-conf@es.net Received: from hibp6.ecse.rpi.edu by hibp.ecse.rpi.edu (4.1/ST26); id AA19157 for rem-conf@es.net; Mon, 29 Jan 96 16:13:36 EST Message-Id: <9601292113.AA19157@hibp.ecse.rpi.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: Dario.Ercole@cselt.stet.it (Dario Ercole) Cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Decoding M-JPEG streams In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:44:51 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:13:35 -0500 From: Paul Stewart In message , Dario Ercole writes: >Hello > >I am looking for MBone applications (like nv or ivs) able to decode (in >software) Motion-JPEG sequences, generated maybe in hardware (with loss, os >course). >Any idea ? > VIC does this, assuming the data is framed using the RTP JPEG format. -- Paul From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jan 29 17:37:35 1996 Received: from broon.off.connect.com.au by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:36:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (ggm@localhost) by broon.off.connect.com.au with SMTP id IAA09194 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:36:01 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: broon.off.connect.com.au: ggm owned process doing -bs X-Authentication-Warning: broon.off.connect.com.au: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) cc: Mark Handley , Stephen Casner , rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:01:39 +0100." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <9189.822954951.1@connect.com.au> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:35:52 +1000 Message-ID: <9191.822954952@connect.com.au> From: George Michaelson As it stands, with constrained bandwidth links, we are only able to use SDR by coercing a perl wrapper around vat to remap dvi to dvi4. I think SDP/SDR badly needs a way to permit user to specify this and other information (like scoped address ranges) runtime and not compiled in either to the program, or the protocol. I'd love to not have to do this! -George -- | George Michaelson Email: ggm@connect.com.au | connect.com.au pty/ltd | c/o AAPT, Phone: +61 7 3834 9976 | level 8, the Riverside Centre, Fax: +61 7 3834 9908 | 123 Eagle St, Brisbane QLD 4000 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 02:14:27 1996 Received: from susie.vigra.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:13:57 -0800 Received: (from steve@localhost) by susie.vigra.com (8.6.10/Vigra-1.1 Boogie) id XAA22030; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:13:54 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:13:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199601300713.XAA22030@susie.vigra.com> From: Steve Haehnichen To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: VC-C1 control software now up for FTP. Reply-To: steve@vigra.com I got several requests for the Canon VC-C1 camera control hacks that I did for the system here. The TCP control daemon and crude Tcl/Tk GUI interface can be found at: ftp://ftp.vigra.com/steve/misc/vc-c1.tar.Z I'd love to find a better GUI that does more than the simple one, so if anyone writes a new one, please speak up. The daemon seems to be fairly robust and has been running for some time with no problems. It does support all the camera features, even the ones I've never tried. :) Have fun. -Steve -- Steve Haehnichen Vigra, Inc. San Diego, CA steve@vigra.com (619) 597-7080 x169 Fax: (619) 597-7094 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 03:38:35 1996 Received: from mailer.cefriel.it (actually ercole.cefriel.it) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:37:58 -0800 Received: from tempra.cefriel.it by mailer.cefriel.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07844; Tue, 30 Jan 96 09:37:31+010 From: tomasson@mailer.cefriel.it (Franco Tomassoni) Message-Id: <9601300837.AA07844@mailer.cefriel.it> Subject: H.310 and H.321 To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:24:44 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 438 I'm looking for informations about videoconferencing over ATM, in particular I'm interested in ITU standards related to it as extension of H.320 (they should be H.310 and H.321). Does anyone know where can I find those drafts? Thanks in advance. -- Franco Tomassoni e-mail : tomasson@mailer.cefriel.it CEFRIEL- Politecnico di Milano telefono : +39-2-66161243 Via Emanueli, 15 20126 MILANO ITALY From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 03:39:08 1996 Received: from pimac2.iet.unipi.it by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:38:44 -0800 Received: by pimac2.iet.unipi.it (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04163; Tue, 30 Jan 96 09:38:37 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 09:38:37 +0100 Message-Id: <9601300838.AA04163@pimac2.iet.unipi.it> X-Sender: guargua@radar.iet.unipi.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rem-conf@es.net From: Giacomo Guarguaglini Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe guargua@radar.iet.unipi.it From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 04:54:05 1996 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:52:57 -0800 Received: from sol.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:52:02 +0000 To: Edgar Hellfritsch cc: rem-conf@es.net, videophone@es.net, mice-nsc@rus.uni-stuttgart.de, mice-nsc-england@cs.ucl.ac.uk Subject: Re: Projects/Research on WAN Teleconferencing ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:31:02 GMT." <310d20771c50002@max3.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:52:00 +0000 Message-ID: <6361.822995520@cs.ucl.ac.uk> From: Roy Bennett Edgar I suggest that you start with the MICE project which has been promoting the use of Wide-area multimedia conferencing over the Mbone since December 1992. National support centres have been set up in a number of European countries, Germany among them. The German NSC is at http://www-ks.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/mice-nsc/ >from which you can link to the other MICE partners. A MICE project page is available here at UCL at http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mice/mice_home.html and the successor project MERCI is at http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mice/merci/ >hi out there, > >does anyone know of/participate in any (see subject)? > >is there a web page on the matter collecting the global goings-on? > >i'm thinking about analyzing a vc scenario for a thesis and would like >to know first place what has been done already (or is currently being done). >(quite makes sense, doesn't it?) > >so, if you know something to my aid, please send mail. > >thanks a bundle and excuse my accent, >edgar >___________________________________________________________________\,_____ > Friedrich-Alexander-Universitaet Edgar Hellfritsch '` > Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen Tel. +49.9131.858735, Fax 302941 > Martensstr. 1 hellfritsch@rrze.uni-erlangen.de > 91058 Erlangen, Germany http://www.uni-erlangen.de/~unrz47/ > Good luck with your research Roy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Roy Bennett, Project Manager, MERCI Computer Science Phone: +44 171 380 7934 University College London Fax: +44 171 387 1397 Gower Street, LONDON WC1E 6BT Email: rbennett@cs.ucl.ac.uk --------- URL http://www-dept.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/R.Bennett ------------ From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 05:36:38 1996 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 02:35:54 -0800 Received: from shrew.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:28:41 +0000 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: University College London, CS Dept. X-Phone: +44 171 419 3666 To: George Michaelson cc: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema), Stephen Casner , rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:35:52 +1000." <9191.822954952@connect.com.au> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:28:34 +0000 Message-ID: <5443.822997714@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Sender: M.Handley@cs.ucl.ac.uk >As it stands, with constrained bandwidth links, we are only able to use >SDR by coercing a perl wrapper around vat to remap dvi to dvi4. Yes - by trying to be application independent, I left out the packetisation information because it is not necessary to be able to *decode* the stream. SDP already specifies a mechanism to convey packetisation information using the ptime attribute- it's SDR's GUI for session creation that's incomplete in this (and other) respects, but then what do you expect from early alpha releases :-) >I think SDP/SDR badly needs a way to permit user to specify this and other >information (like scoped address ranges) runtime and not compiled in either >to the program, or the protocol. Scoped address ranges are not an issue for SDP, but for SDAP (the "transport" protocol for session advertisements). SDR already deals just fine with scoped address ranges (there's a configuration command you can add to .sdr.tcl that adds a scoped range, and tells SDR to listen on more than one address). When I finish the new client-server split, this configuration will become much simpler. Mark From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 09:26:41 1996 Received: from is.rice.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 06:26:06 -0800 Received: from this.is.rice.edu (this.is.rice.edu [128.42.42.80]) by is.rice.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA15604 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:26:03 -0600 (CST) From: William Soren Deigaard Received: by this.is.rice.edu (8.7.1/Rice Client-1.0) id IAA02648; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:26:38 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199601301426.IAA02648@this.is.rice.edu> Subject: WB postscript size limitations... To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:26:38 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One of our professors here at Rice wants to use some teleconferencing tools for some distance learning projects that he is working on. He took a look at the InPerson software for SGI's, but likes wb better. However, he really needs to be able to import postscript larger than 32768 bytes. Is there source available so we can make the change, or is would it be possible to get a precompiled verions with a higher limit? He's looking for a factor of 4 increase. Thanks, -- William Deigaard ^-^ (soren@rice.edu) (O O) Go Owls! ( v ) ---------------------m-m--- Systems Programmer, Rice University From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 10:23:48 1996 Received: from gateway-gw.pictel.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 07:23:19 -0800 Received: from roadrunner.pictel.com by gateway-gw.pictel.com (4.1/cf.gw.940128.1740) id AA20047; Tue, 30 Jan 96 10:23:18 EST Received: from smtpnotes.pictel.com by roadrunner.pictel.com (4.1/runner.910925.1) id AA21316; Tue, 30 Jan 96 10:20:45 EST Received: by smtpnotes.pictel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21558; Tue, 30 Jan 96 10:20:45 EST Message-Id: <9601301520.AA21558@smtpnotes.pictel.com> Received: from PicTel with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id C591A7CA2806AB13852562C100543E0A; Tue, 30 Jan 96 15:20:45 To: rem-conf Cc: Franco Tomassoni From: Rich Baker/PicTel Date: 30 Jan 96 10:20:07 EDT Subject: Re: H.310 and H.321 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Hello Franco: You can find pointers to many videoconferencing related standards from the Int'l Multimedia Teleconferencing Consortium's home page: http://www.imtc.org/imtc The IMTC is a consortium of some 80+ companies dedicated to developing interoperable videoconferencing and multimedia collaboration products based on int'l open standards. Unfortunately, the ITU-T still has not yet recognized that it's in the best interest of the industry to make all of it's standards documents freely available on-line. The documents you refer to are posted at an ITU-T ftp ("TIES") site, but as of today your company or organization must be an ITU-T member to legally access it. Regrets, -rich baker PictureTel Corp. bake@pictel.com ===== To: rem-conf @ es.net @ smtp cc: From: tomasson @ mailer.cefriel.it (Franco Tomassoni) @ smtp Date: 01/30/96 09:24:44 AM Subject: H.310 and H.321 I'm looking for informations about videoconferencing over ATM, in particular I'm interested in ITU standards related to it as extension of H.320 (they should be H.310 and H.321). Does anyone know where can I find those drafts? Thanks in advance. -- Franco Tomassoni e-mail : tomasson@mailer.cefriel.it CEFRIEL- Politecnico di Milano telefono : +39-2-66161243 Via Emanueli, 15 20126 MILANO ITALY From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 10:47:55 1996 Received: from rags.rutgers.edu by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 07:47:18 -0800 Received: (from badri@localhost) by rags.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) id KAA29077; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:46:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:46:14 -0500 From: Br Badrinath Message-Id: <199601301546.KAA29077@rags.rutgers.edu> To: ieeetcpc@ccvm.sunysb.edu, orcs-l%osuvm1.BITNET@searn.sunet.se, glynn@leland.stanford.edu, ietf-announce@cnri.reston.va.us, mobile-ip , f-troup@aurora.cis.upenn.edu, rem-conf-request@es.net, cost237-transport@comp.lancs.ac.uk, reres@laas.fr, hipparch@sophia.inria.fr, xtp-relay@cs.concordia.ca, rem-conf@es.net, sigmedia@bellcore.com, arpanet-bboard@mc.lcs.mit.edu, cnom@meatro.bellcore.com, globecom@signet.com.sig, ietf@isi.edu, tccc@cs.umass.edu Subject: Call For Papers/ Mobicom96 ------------------------------------------------------------------ | SECOND ACM INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE | | ON | | MOBILE COMPUTING AND NETWORKING 1996 | | | | (ACM MobiCom'96) | | | | November 11-12, 1996 (Tutorials on Sunday, November 10, 1996 | | Rye Hilton, Rye, New York, USA | | | | Sponsored by: | | | | ACM CESDIS NASA IEEE | | Sigcomm, Sigmetrics, ComSoc | | Sigops, Sigact | ------------------------------------------------------------------ The wireless communication revolution is bringing fundamental changes to telecommunication and computing. Wide-area cellular systems and wireless LANs promise to make integrated networks a reality and provide fully distributed and ubiquitous mobile computing and communications, thus bringing an end to the tyranny of geography. Furthermore, services for the mobile user are maturing and are poised to change the nature and scope of communication. This conference, the second of an annual series, serves as the premier international forum addressing networks, systems, algorithms, and applications that support the symbiosis of portable computers and wireless networks. PAPERS Technical papers describing previously unpublished, original, completed, and not currently under review by another conference or journal are solicited on topics at the link layer and above. Topics will include, but are not limited to: * Applications and computing services supporting the mobile user. * Network architectures, protocols or service algorithms to cope with mobility, limited bandwidth, or intermittent connectivity. * Design and analysis of algorithms for online and mobile environments. * Mobile network protocols * Performance characterization of mobile/wireless networks and systems. * Network management for mobile and wireless networks. * Data management in mobile computing * Service integration and interworking of wired and wireless networks. * Characterization of the influence of lower layers on the design and performance of higher layers. * Security, scalability and reliability issues for mobile/wireless systems * Mobile computing * Mobile agents * Power management * Wireless multimedia systems * Satellite communication * Location-dependent applications * Distributed system aspects of mobile systems * Adaptive applications interfaces suitable for mobile systems * Architectures of wireless and mobile networks and systems * Traffic integration for mobile applications All papers will be refereed by the program committee. Accepted papers will be published in conference proceedings. Papers of particular merit will be selected for publication in the ACM/Baltzer Journal on Wireless Networks and the ACM/Baltzer Mobile Networks & Nomadic Applications Journal. HOW TO SUBMIT Paper submission will be handled electronically. Authors should Email a PostScript version of their full paper to: mobicom96@gucci.mirc.gatech.edu This Email address will become operational on March 1, 1996. In order to print the PS versions of the papers, authors should ensure that their papers meet these restrictions: - PostScript version 2 or later - no longer than 15 pages - fits properly on "US Letter" size paper (8.5x11 inches) - reference only Computer Modern or standard Adobe fonts (i.e., Courier, Times Roman, or Helvetica); other fonts may be used but must be included in the PostScript file In addition, authors should separately Email the title, author names, full address and abstract of their paper to the program chairs. All submitted papers will be judged based on their quality through double-blind reviewing where the identities of the authors are withheld from the reviewers. Authors' names should not appear on the paper or in the postscript file. TUTORIALS Proposals for tutorials are solicited. Evaluation of the proposals will be based on expertise and experience of instructors, and the relevance of the subject matter. Potential instructors are requested to submit at most 5 pages, including a biographical sketch to Arvind Krishna (krishna@watson.ibm.com). PANELS Panels are solicited that examine innovative, controversial, or otherwise provocative issues of interest. Panel proposals should not exceed more than 3 pages, including biographical sketches of the panelist. Potential panel organizers should contact Tom LaPorta (tlp@boole.att.com). STUDENT PARTICIPATION Papers with a student as a primary author will enter a student paper award competition. The student will receive a cash award of $500,- US Dollars. A cover letter must identify the paper as a candidate for the student paper competition. IMPORTANT DATES Submissions due: May 1, 1996 Notification of acceptance: July 15, 1996 Camera-ready version due: August 31, 1996 For More Information: Please contact Ian F. Akyildiz (ian@ee.gatech.edu) or Zygmunt J. Haas (zjh1@cornell.edu), the Program Co-Chairs. WWW/GOPHER INFORMATION This CFP and other ACM related activities may be found in http://info.acm.org/sigcomm/mobicom96 (for WWW browsers) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ GENERAL CO-CHAIRS: HAMID AHMADI RANDY KATZ IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Computer Science Division Room H3-C04 EECS Department P. O. Box 704 University of California Yorktown Heights, NY 10598 Berkeley, CA 94720-1776 Tel: 914-784-7219 Tel.: 510-642-8778 Fax: 914-784-6205 Fax.: 510-642-5775 Email: hamid@watson.ibm.com Email: randy@cs.Berkeley.edu PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS IAN F. AKYILDIZ ZYGMUNT J. HAAS School of ECE School of Electrical Engineering Georgia Tech Cornell University Atlanta, GA, 30332 Ithaca, N.Y. 14853 Tel.: 404-894-5141 Tel.: 607-255-3454 Fax.: 404-894-5028 Fax.: 607-255-9072 Email: ian@ee.gatech.edu Email: zjh1@cornell.edu TUTORIAL CHAIR LOCAL CHAIR ARVIND KRISHNA BOB FLYNN, Polytechnic University IBM T.J. Watson Research Center P.O. Box 704, H3-D32 VICE CHAIR Yorktown Heights, NY 10598 TOM LaPORTA, AT&T Bell Labs Tel.: (914) 784-7965 Fax.: (914) 784-6205 PUBLICITY CHAIR Email: krishna@watson.ibm.com B.R. BADRINATH, Rutgers Univ. TREASURER STEERING COMMITTEE CHAIR RAJIV JAIN, Bellcore IMRICH CHLAMTAC, Boston Univ. PROGRAM COMMITTEE Rafael Alonso, Matsushita Labs Victor Bahl, DEC Brian Bershad, U. of Washington Ramon Caceres, AT&T Imrich Chlamtac, Boston U. Tony Dahbura, Motorola John Daigle, U. of Mississippi Maurizio Decina, CEFRIEL JJ Garcia Luna, UC Santa Cruz Mario Gerla, UCLA Peter Honeyman, U. of Michigan Pierre Humblet, Eurecom Tomasz Imielinski, Rutgers U. David Johnson, CMU Phil Karn, Qualcomm Mark Karol, AT&T Jay Kistler, DEC Barry Leiner, ARPA Jason Ying Bin Lin, NCTU Teresa Meng, Stanford U. Mahmoud Naghshineh, IBM TJ Peter O'Reilly, GTE Labs Charlie Perkins, IBM TJ Ray Pickholtz, GWU Dhiraj Pradhan, Texas A&M Chris Rose, Rutgers U. Krishan Sabnani, AT&T Mischa Schwartz, Columbia U. Martha Steenstrup, BBN Gordon Stuber, GaTech David Tennenhouse, MIT Marvin Theimer, XEROX Mehmet Ulema, Bellcore Newman Wilson, D. Sarnoff RC Parviz Yegani, Qualcomm From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 10:51:11 1996 Received: from pax.inria.fr by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 07:50:15 -0800 Received: from [138.96.36.34] by pax.inria.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA04688; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:49:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:49:20 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: pax.inria.fr: Host huitema.inria.fr claimed to be [138.96.36.34] Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Mark Handley From: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) Subject: Re: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions Cc: Stephen Casner , rem-conf@es.net At 5:51 PM 29/1/96, Mark Handley wrote: >>>Personally, I think that number-of-quantisation-bits is a useful >>>overloading of payload type, but that clock-rate opens a whole can of >>>worms I'd rather not get into. >> >>Fact is, we do have working code for multiple quantifications, but have >>only done very limited tests with multiple clock rates. Your proposal is >>an acceptable second choice. > >I'd like to see the work on multiple clock rates - it does sound >interesting, and if anyone is serious about doing this in the future >for *any* encoding, we may need to look again at the RTP spec. Note that what is proposed is not the support of arbitrary clock rates, but rather a finite set of multiples. The RTP header's time stamps would always be clocked at the exact same rate, e.g. 44.2 kHz, but some payload samples would simply be omitted, to obtain half rate, quarter rate or height rate encoding. This is not quite the same as allowing arbitrary clock rates. Downgrading the clock rate, e.g. to present at 22.1 what was received at 44.2, is generally not a problem. Use subsampling if you are lazy, low pass filtering if you want to make a better job. Multiplying the clock rate by 2, 4 or 8 is not rocket science either. A combination of linear interpolation and low pass filtering should yeld an acceptable result. In any case, it is about time to move towards better quality audio -- that is, better than telephony. Running DVI at 44.2 or 22.1 kHz looks like an acceptable first step. Stereo, or even quad with surround, is the logical next step. But our capture equipments (read: lousy mikes) may not be up to par for that... Christian Huitema From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 15:52:46 1996 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:52:16 -0800 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA08413; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:48:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:48:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: William Soren Deigaard cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: WB postscript size limitations... In-Reply-To: <199601301426.IAA02648@this.is.rice.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Per past messages, I just modified the line in my .sd.tcl that launches wb to look like: exec $wb -t $sd_sess(ttl) -C wb:$sd_sess(name) -P 2048000 $orient \ $recvonly $sd_sess(address)/$sd_whiteboard(port) & Note the -P 20480000, which allows me to transfer 2Mb [Flamerss: no, I do NOT transfer 2Mb continually - I just needed to once during a private conference and never changed it back. :-)] Mike On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, William Soren Deigaard wrote: > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:26:38 -0600 (CST) > From: William Soren Deigaard > To: rem-conf@es.net > Subject: WB postscript size limitations... > > One of our professors here at Rice wants to use some teleconferencing tools > for some distance learning projects that he is working on. He took a look > at the InPerson software for SGI's, but likes wb better. However, he > really needs to be able to import postscript larger than 32768 bytes. > Is there source available so we can make the change, or is would it be > possible to get a precompiled verions with a higher limit? He's looking > for a factor of 4 increase. > > Thanks, > -- > William Deigaard ^-^ > (soren@rice.edu) (O O) > Go Owls! ( v ) > ---------------------m-m--- Systems Programmer, Rice University > Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | work: http://www.eco.nsi.nasa.gov/~mnewell | | home: http://www.newell.arlington.va.us | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 15:56:13 1996 Received: from ceres.fokus.gmd.de by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:55:47 -0800 Received: from lupus (actually lupus.fokus.gmd.de) by ceres.fokus.gmd.de with SMTP (PP-ICR1v5); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:53:34 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: steve@vigra.com cc: rem-conf@es.net From: Henning Schulzrinne X-Url: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/step/hgs/ Subject: Re: VC-C1 control software now up for FTP. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:13:54 PST." <199601300713.XAA22030@susie.vigra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:53:31 +0100 Sender: schulzrinne@fokus.gmd.de In that vein: Anybody have any info on using the Sony LANC (S-link) connector for similar purposes (just zooming, mostly). Would allow folks to get a close-up look on the drug deals in front of Zoo Station (out my window)... Thanks. Henning From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jan 30 17:31:40 1996 Received: from broon.off.connect.com.au by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:30:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (ggm@localhost) by broon.off.connect.com.au with SMTP id IAA14170 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 08:29:12 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: broon.off.connect.com.au: ggm owned process doing -bs X-Authentication-Warning: broon.off.connect.com.au: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: huitema@pax.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) cc: Mark Handley , Stephen Casner , rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Request for additional RTP payload type definitions In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:49:20 +0100." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <14155.823040939.1@connect.com.au> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 08:29:00 +1000 Message-ID: <14157.823040940@connect.com.au> From: George Michaelson In any case, it is about time to move towards better quality audio -- that is, better than telephony. Running DVI at 44.2 or 22.1 kHz looks like an acceptable first step. Stereo, or even quad with surround, is the logical Maybe we shouldn't do this unless we also require layered coding? Whats the rule-of-thumb datarate for mono/stereo/quad at these sample rates? next step. But our capture equipments (read: lousy mikes) may not be up to par for that... Sherlock Holmes suggests Christian is not sitting at an SGI. They've been stereo enabled at 44.1(?) with a lovely electret tieclip mike for years. (I don't have one either) If we adopt better than telephony standards, how do we downgrade/upgrade at PTT-approved attachment points? I don't think you want to leave the transforms undefined either if we want ubiquity across all telecommunications media. -George From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 31 05:44:16 1996 Received: from zeus.cwi.nl by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:43:04 -0800 Received: from schelvis.cwi.nl by zeus.cwi.nl with SMTP id ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:42:59 +0100 Received: by schelvis.cwi.nl with SMTP id ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:42:59 +0100 Message-Id: <9601311042.AA06592=jack@schelvis.cwi.nl> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: VC-C1 control software now up for FTP. In-Reply-To: Message by Henning Schulzrinne , Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:53:31 +0100 , <9601302107.AA13232=rem-conf-request@es.net@charon.cwi.nl> Organisation: Multi-media group, CWI, Kruislaan 413, Amsterdam Phone: +31 20 5924098(work), +31 20 5924199 (fax), +31 20 6160335(home) X-Last-Band-Seen: CIV (Melkweg, 28-1) X-Mini-Review: Nice punkrock, but a bit short. Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:42:58 +0100 From: Jack Jansen Recently, Henning Schulzrinne said: > > Anybody have any info on using the Sony LANC (S-link) connector for > similar purposes (just zooming, mostly). Would allow folks to get a > close-up look on the drug deals in front of Zoo Station (out my > window)... I looked into LINC a few years ago, and I gave up. The low-level protocol is horrendous: it is basically RS-232, but with the start/stop bits generated by the master and the databits by whoever is talking (the master for commands, the slave for replies or status messages). I couldn't think of a reasonable way to convert this from/to RS-232 without heaps of chips. If someone has a schematic of such a converter I'd still be interested, though, so please let me know. I did find a PC-program to control LINC somewhere on the net, which basically did it's own timing and used two single-bit logical outputs (one for data, one to float the bus) and a single-bit input (combined with 10 cents worth of hardware). Also, I did find descriptions of the higher-level protocols (which appeared at least half-way decent). Let me know if people are interested, and I'll try to dig it up again. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 31 13:44:30 1996 Received: from decu13.triumf.ca by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:42:22 -0800 Received: by decu13.triumf.ca (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13173; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:41:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:41:35 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Daviel To: rem-conf Distribution List Subject: vcr binaries for OSF, Irix ?? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone got binaries of the vcr tool for Irix 5.3 or OSF1 V3.2 ? I get c++ errors trying to build on OSF with gcc 2.7.2 and in make under Irix. We would like vcr as CERN is making some "tapes" available. Andrew Daviel email: advax@triumf.ca TRIUMF voice: 604-222-7376 4004 Wesbrook Mall fax: 604-222-7307 Vancouver BC http://andrew.triumf.ca/~andrew Canada V6T 2A3 49D14.7N 123D13.6W From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 31 17:14:42 1996 Received: from gemini.scl.ameslab.gov by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:14:13 -0800 Received: (from metzger@localhost) by gemini.scl.ameslab.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA18533; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:14:02 GMT From: Joseph Metzger Message-Id: <199601312214.WAA18533@gemini.scl.ameslab.gov> Subject: Re: vcr binaries for OSF, Irix ?? To: andrew@andrew.triumf.ca (Andrew Daviel) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:14:02 -0600 (CST) Cc: rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Daviel" at Jan 31, 96 10:41:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1268 I am also interested in Irix binaries that work. I have been able to compile it after making some minor changes but the resulting binary does not work. Most of the problems involved scoping issues like declaring a variable inside a block and then trying to use it outside the block. There are also a couple of extra newlines in num_display.tcl. > > Has anyone got binaries of the vcr tool for Irix 5.3 or OSF1 V3.2 ? > > I get c++ errors trying to build on OSF with gcc 2.7.2 and > in make under Irix. We would like vcr as CERN is making some "tapes" > available. > > Andrew Daviel email: advax@triumf.ca > TRIUMF voice: 604-222-7376 > 4004 Wesbrook Mall fax: 604-222-7307 > Vancouver BC http://andrew.triumf.ca/~andrew > Canada V6T 2A3 49D14.7N 123D13.6W > ************************************************************************** * Joe Metzger (515) 294-1939 * * Systems Manager metzger@ameslab.gov * * Scalable Computing Lab metzger@iastate.edu * * Ames Laboratory 304 Wilhelm, ISU, Ames IA, 50011 * ************************************************************************** From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 31 18:02:00 1996 Received: from susie.vigra.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:01:31 -0800 Received: (from steve@localhost) by susie.vigra.com (8.6.10/Vigra-1.1 Boogie) id PAA25600; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:01:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:01:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199601312301.PAA25600@susie.vigra.com> From: Steve Haehnichen To: winickj@interlog.com (Jay Winick) CC: rem-conf@es.net In-reply-to: winickj@interlog.com's message of 30 Jan 1996 16:17:18 GMT Subject: Re: Canon VC-C1 Reply-to: steve@vigra.com References: <4elgae$brd@steel.interlog.com> -=> On 30 Jan 1996 16:17:18 GMT, winickj@interlog.com (Jay Winick) said: > Could someone please post some information on where a VCC1 can be purchased, > and if possible, price information. I had to contact Canon to find a retailer that had them. The pointed me to Washington Professional Systems. I paid: $1645 for the VC-C1 camera & remote. $65 for the wide-angle lens $10 for the lens adapter $225 (approx) for the Developers Kit All told, less than $2000. -- Steve Haehnichen Vigra, Inc. San Diego, CA steve@vigra.com (619) 597-7080 x169 Fax: (619) 597-7094 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 31 21:58:25 1996 Received: from hep.net (actually utah.hep.net) by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:57:58 -0800 Received: from nhmxw0.fnal.gov by hep.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04519; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 20:57:56 -0600 Received: from nhmxw2.fnal.gov.fnal.gov by nhmxw0.fnal.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA08693; Wed, 31 Jan 96 20:57:55 CST Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 20:57:55 CST From: roediger@hep.net (Gary Roediger) Message-Id: <9602010257.AA08693@nhmxw0.fnal.gov> To: winickj@interlog.com, steve@vigra.com Subject: Re: Canon VC-C1 Cc: rem-conf@es.net Watch out for repairs on the VC-1. It is a great camera but if you every need to repair it .... My SGI ate the Indy Cam and VC-1. SGI replace my Indy Cam in 2 days. Cannon on the other hand -- they gave me a number and address at Cannon in NJ. -- they in turn said they did not handle repairs and gave me a local Chicago third party repair. It was sent to them and after many weeks they sent it back saying they don't repair VC-1's. (This was after they asked us to ship the power brick for the camera since they did not have one.) Cannon was recontacted and gave us the original repair address in NJ - this time they took it but then said they needed a check up front before repair. This is a Dept of Energy site and with the government credit rating these days .... I guess Cannon never expected any of these to fail but another group here had a similar experience with their VC-1. Gary Roediger From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jan 31 22:44:49 1996 Received: from sauron.multiverse.com by osi-west.es.net with ESnet SMTP (PP); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:44:13 -0800 Received: from zephyr.com by sauron.multiverse.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0thpwP-001dtyC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 22:44 EST Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 22:45:03 -0600 From: steve@zephyr.com (Steve Church) Organization: TELOS Systems Subject: Seeking Expertise To: rem-conf@es.net Message-ID: <36276.ensmtp@zephyr.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are working on a new approach to audio over the Internet - one which would offer higher audio quality and better reliability than RealAudio, Xing, etc. We've been a leading manufacterer of audio codecs for the broadcast industry, so we know audio coding/compression well, and have some technology that we think would advance the art considerably. It looks like we will want to use RTP and some kind of IP Multicast to distribute the audio on the Net to keep the consumed bandwidth down and improve reception reliabilty. The problem is, we're really light on knowledge of these kinds of networking issues. Do you know of anyone who has deep knowledge and ability in these areas? Perhaps someone who has worked out some of these qusetions in connection with the MBONE? We wish to hire such a person as a consultant to help us produce a real-world product. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Steve Church TELOS Systems 2101 Superior Avenue, Cleveland, OH 44114 Phone +1.216.241.7225, Fax 241.4103, Email steve@zephyr.com