From rem-conf Thu Jul 02 14:26:53 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jul 02 14:26:53 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yrqeG-0006T6-00; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:12:08 -0700 Received: from mailgate.nortel.ca (mailgate) [192.58.194.74] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yrqeE-0006Sw-00; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:12:06 -0700 Received: from bcars520 by mailgate; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:10:43 -0400 Received: from ca.nortel.com by bcars520.ca.nortel.com id <04206-0@bcars520.ca.nortel.com>; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:09:47 -0400 Date: 02 Jul 1998 17:09 EDT Sender: "Vahe Balabanian" To: casner@precept.com Cc: rem-conf@es.net, "Dmif List" From: "Vahe Balabanian" Subject: Re: AVT Consensus on MPEG4/DMIF Message-Id: X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Dear Steve, I apologize for this delayed response. the truth is that I was absent from my office for an extended period of time. I came back to my office on June 22. The MPEG meeting is on from July 6-10 in Dublin. So some of the issues raised below will lead to a timely discussion in MPEG. In message "Re: AVT Consensus on MPEG4/DMIF", casner@precept.com writes: >Responding to Vahe Balabanian's summary of approaches for RTP/MPEG4: > > Steve: >I think you have covered the space of options pretty well. Your use >of the term "AVT" is a bit fuzzy in some instances, as explained in a >couple of the following comments. > Vahe: > 1- MPEG-4 divides the screen into AudioVisualObjects > (AVO) each having a desired shape (including geometric > and natural shapes) and multiplicity of coded streams > to be chosen from by the receiving end-user. > > Analysis: This approach is useful to AVT for enabling > an end-user to adapt its viewing to changing network > conditions. > Steve: >Here I think AVT means "RTP applications". This network adaptivity is >not a function built into RTP (at least not yet), but is a matter of >the application choosing the appropriate streams. One might say this >selection is enabled by performance measurement done at the receiver >and perhaps sent back to the source using RTCP. Here is a case where >sending in separate RTP streams is important (at least for multicast) >so selection of RTP streams can be used to control the incoming data >rate. Reply: The important point here is that RTCP measurements play a key role in the stream selection at the receiver. The issue as I see it is whether simple selection can be done without active end-user's involvment in order to reduce the impact of the degradation on the end-user and shed off the traffic load from the network at the source or at RTP mixers? Quoting from the AVT LA Minutes: "Unfortunately, the QoS measures provided by RTCP don't match what's defined in DMIF exactly". Since the dynamic QoS specification is an important topic to be discussed in MPEG at Dublin, the question is what flexibility is there in RTCP RR QoS measurements? Will creating an MPEG-4 profile for RTP be a good approach to ease this problem? > Vahe: > the receiver. The similarities of MPEG-4 and AVT in this > area are in the equivalence of GF-RTP to the MPEG-4 stream > and the SDP to the Scene and Object Descriptor. Except in > the latter case SDP is a queried entity as opposed to a > stream. > Casner: >I think the division of information between static out-of-band >delivery and in-band delivery is an important question for RTP >with respect to generic payload formats, and for MPEG-4 (especially >for multicast) even if RTP were not used at all. Reply: A quick response time to a stream change request of an MPEG-4 object >from one type to another is very important. A dynamic in-band description should be helpful in this case. > Vahe: > 1- The abstract DMIF Application Interface (DAI) isolates > MPEG-4 from the underlying delivery mechanisms. In this > DAI makes use of a media-based QoS (expressed in access > unit metrics of priority, loss, delay and jitter) and an > explicit format description for each stream. > > Analysis: This is useful to AVT in maintaining applications > intact while transiting from IPV4 to IPV6 and adopting > multiple implementations of the TOS byte to carry Diff Serv > information. > Steve: >RTP is already independent of IPv4 vs IPv6. It does not address QoS >APIs at all. So this is not exactly an AVT working group concern. >Applications using RTP may want to use QoS and therefore they would >need to use protocols from other working groups (RSVP, Diff-Serv). Reply: I appreciate the point you are raising here. A DMIF mapping to RSVP has found its way into the DMIF FCD specification and hopefully will appear in a draft IETF technical proposal for Chicago. > Steve: >One problem here is the DMIF is primarily an API, not a protocol. >IETF work focusses on protocols and only occasionally considers APIs. Reply: My apologies if I was not articulate enough in my description of DMIF. DMIF actually is primarily an integration framework (the IF part of DMIF). It is bounded towards the application by a DMIF API (DAI) and towards the network by a DMIF Network Inerface (DNI). In addition DMIF provides a default end-to-end signaling DMIF Signaling (DS) to complement the lack in network layer functionality in order to keep the integrity of the DMIF Framework. The above may be a partial answer to your question in the AVT LA Minutes: " One question is what should be done when the underlying network layers cannot meet the interface specified by DMIF?" > Vahe: > 2- DMIF allows tagging of resources used in a given > presentation session. The tags are used to log and apply > policy to multiple streams on different source and > destination addresses and over different networks. > > Analysis: As IETF is moving towards usage accountability > with RSVP, this concept allows the collection of usage > information for a given presentation. A joint server and > client policy can thus be applied to limit the usage of > resources for a given presentation. > Steve: >This is again outside the bounds of AVT. Reply: I appreciate the point you are raising. Action is being taken to bring the points to the appropriate IETF working groups. > Vahe: > 3- DMIF allows efficient and agile packing of streams > into transports and the reuse of existing transports to > reduce the visual impact of addition of new higher > priority streams at the expense of existing lower > priority streams. > Steve: >DMIF allows an expression of priority with the goal of achieving the >desired visual impact, but it depends on the implementation to >and the protocols actually achieve that. I think this is where some >of the pushback from RTP may come -- that in order to achive the >desired goal, some changes might be needed above the DAI. Reply: Granted that in some cases "in order to achieve the desired goal some changes may be required above the DAI". But the benefit gained from the flexibility is a quick response when the streams are changed which is crucial for MPEG-4. If we could identify the cases that you mentioned and find solutions while preserving the benefit of quick stream change then we may have an improved overall operation. > Vahe: > expertise. DMIF could be used to regulate the stream traffic > on Internet in a similar fashion to regulating its TCP traffic. > Steve: >Again, I think the key part of achieving this goal is in the protocols >and mechanisms below the API, not in the API itself. Reply: I hope I was able to convey above that DMIF is primarily an integration framework with aspects of API and protocol. > Vahe > Analysis: The stream formats in MPEG-4 cover a wide range of > timestamps and clocks including implicit timestamps. It may > be possible to subset these for operation over RTP. This > argues for the creation of MPEG-4 profile for RTP. But this > breaks the clean separation adopted in DMIF for isolating the > applications from the delivery mechanisms, thus MPEG-4 profiles > are normally reserved to applications and not to transports. > But one can argue that within the confines of the RTP subset, > the DAI principle can still be applied across both the storage > and broadcast media. As experience is gained with RTP the subset > can be enlarged to encompass more of MPEG-4. > Steve: >This is where we really need to learn more on both sides. How >flexible are the boundaries? Is it important to solve all the >problems and scenarios that MPEG-4 has taken on in the RTP context, or >is it reasonable to say that some we just don't expect to solve some >of those problems or support some of those scenarios across the >Internet. That is, is the problem too hard just because we >artificially made it so? > -- Steve Reply: I see the point you are making. Let me say that the main purpose of an MPEG-4 profile is to limit the tools and this addresses your concerns. Clearly having an MPEG-4 profile for RTP should be a reasonable starting point. This is worth debating on this reflector. What will an MPEG-4 profile for RTP be? 1- Limit the choice of timestamps? 2- Limit the choice of the number/type of streams? 3- Limit the QoS performance measurements? 4- Limit the back channel to allow multicast? 5- Any other? -- Vahe From rem-conf Thu Jul 02 23:54:01 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jul 02 23:54:00 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yrzYS-000289-00; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:42:44 -0700 Received: from (uranus.vdo.co.il) [207.232.4.6] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yrzYQ-00027s-00; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:42:42 -0700 Received: from zvil ([207.232.4.213]) by uranus.vdo.co.il (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA07061; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:43:32 +0300 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:42:51 +0300 Message-ID: <01BDA666.F22C33A0.zvil@vdo.net> From: Zvi Lifshitz Reply-To: "zvil@vdo.net" To: "casner@precept.com" , "'Vahe Balabanian'" Cc: "rem-conf@es.net" , Dmif List Subject: RE: [DMIF] Re: AVT Consensus on MPEG4/DMIF Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:34:34 +0300 Organization: VDOnet X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 40 TEXT X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list [Vahe Balabanian:] I see the point you are making. Let me say that the main purpose of an MPEG-4 profile is to limit the tools and this addresses your concerns. Clearly having an MPEG-4 profile for RTP should be a reasonable starting point. This is worth debating on this reflector. What will an MPEG-4 profile for RTP be? 1- Limit the choice of timestamps? [Reply:] Why is there is need to such limit? MPEG-4 defines a SL-PDU header. This can be still used under RTP. Whatever information is not conveyed by the RTP protocol, can be stored at the SL-PDU header, transparent to RTP. [Original Message:] 2- Limit the choice of the number/type of streams? [Reply:] Again, is there really a need for this limit? MPEG-4 defines the FlexMux tool, which can be used to pack multiple streams into one TransMux stream. The RTP sees only the TransMux stream. In short, what I want to say, could we first try to identify what parts of the protocols are really contradicting, and what are actually complementary. Regards, Zvi ===================== Zvi Lifshitz (zvil@vdo.net) VDOnet Corp. (www.vdo.net) Phone +972(2)679-4788 Fax +972(2)679-4789 ===================== From rem-conf Fri Jul 03 06:40:15 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 03 06:40:14 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ys61H-0005Wk-00; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 06:36:56 -0700 Received: from mailgate.nortel.ca (mailgate) [192.58.194.74] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ys61G-0005Wa-00; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 06:36:54 -0700 Received: from bcars520 by mailgate; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:19:26 -0400 Received: from ca.nortel.com by bcars520.ca.nortel.com id <07453-0@bcars520.ca.nortel.com>; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:18:19 -0400 Date: 03 Jul 1998 09:17 EDT Sender: "Vahe Balabanian" To: zvil@vdo.net Cc: casner@precept.com, rem-conf@es.net, "Dmif List" From: "Vahe Balabanian" Subject: re:RE: [DMIF] Re: AVT Consensus on MPEG4/DMIF Message-Id: X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list In message "RE: [DMIF] Re: AVT Consensus on MPEG4/DMIF", zvil@vdo.net writes: >[Vahe:] > >I see the point you are making. Let me say that the main purpose of >an MPEG-4 profile is to limit the tools and this addresses your >concerns. Clearly having an MPEG-4 profile for RTP should be a reasonable >starting point. This is worth debating on this reflector. What will an >MPEG-4 profile for RTP be? > >1- Limit the choice of timestamps? > >[Zvi:] > >Why is there is need to such limit? MPEG-4 defines a SL-PDU header. This >can be still used under RTP. Whatever information is not conveyed by the >RTP protocol, can be stored at the SL-PDU header, transparent to RTP. [Reply:] The issue relates to the jitter measurement, quoting from the AVT LA minutes: "There was some discussion of which AL-PDU timestamp should be carried in the RTP timestamp, considering the effect on jitter calculation. The jitter will be inaccurate if the timestamp represents the composition time but the data is sometime sent early for rate smoothing, or if the timestamp is non-monotonic for interpolated video frames. Steve Casner pointed out that the jitter value in RTCP is intended as a comparative measure between streams or at different times rather than as an absolute measure. The selection of timestamps is another issue to be discussed on the mailing list." We have to keep two seemingly contradictory things in mind: 1- The desire to make use of the RTP/RTCP specification as is 2- The desire to optimize the MPEG-4 packing on RTP The solution you pointed out above is the one used for the FlexMux encapsulation on RTP. In that sense using FlexMux encapsulation in all cases may be the most flexible approach. > >[Vahe:] > >2- Limit the choice of the number/type of streams? > >[Zvi:] > >Again, is there really a need for this limit? MPEG-4 defines the FlexMux >tool, which can be used to pack multiple streams into one TransMux stream. >The RTP sees only the TransMux stream. [Reply:] This relates to the fact that if we do not want to use FlexMux encapsulation then because the RTP will consume ports as the result of large quantity of Elementary Streams (ES) in MPEG-4 then we may want to limit the number of ESs. >[Zvi:] >In short, what I want to say, could we first try to identify what parts of >the protocols are really contradicting, and what are actually >complementary. [Reply:] Let me take a first crack at this. Complementary: Comp1- Per Stream QoS in MPEG-4 Comp2- Per Stream QoS monitoring in RTP/RTCP Comp3- RTP/RTCP multicast mixers and firewall translators Comp4- Generic payload formats (I put this in Complementary since RTP has just begun to address this issue therefore no reason to contradict. Right?) Comp5- Default signaling "DMIF Signaling DS" provided by DMIF Contradicting: Cont1- RTP vs MPEG-4 time stamps Cont2- Single stream per IP port in RTP vs multiple streams in MPEG-4 (This could go to complementary depending on how the draft-ietf-avt-aggregation-00.txt "An RTP payload format for User Multiplexing" J. Rosenberg, H. Schulzrinne approaches the issue. 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Best regards, -------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Fluckiger & Christian Isnard CERN - IT/CS/EN multicast@noc.cern.ch European Laboratory for Particle Physics Computers and Networks division CH-1211 Geneva 23 - Switzerland From rem-conf Mon Jul 06 12:29:43 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jul 06 12:29:42 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ytGhH-0003pm-00; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:13:07 -0700 Received: from hydra.precept.com [204.162.119.8] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ytGhG-0003pW-00; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:13:06 -0700 Received: from oak.precept.com (oak.precept.com [204.162.116.21]) by hydra.precept.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA01370; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:12:06 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: Stephen Casner To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: 42nd IETF-CHICAGO, IL: AVT Message-ID: X-X-Sender: casner@big-bear.precept.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list The Audio/Video Transport working group is scheduled to meet for two sessions in Chicago: Wednesday, August 26 at 1530-1730 Thursday, August 27 at 0900-1130 Please send email to me if you would like to request an agenda slot or if you have suggestions for topics to be covered. -- Steve From rem-conf Mon Jul 06 13:30:43 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jul 06 13:30:42 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ytHq9-00054K-00; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:26:21 -0700 Received: from mailgate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.74] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ytHq8-00054A-00; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:26:20 -0700 Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com (actually 47.116.0.118) by mailgate; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:25:44 -0400 Received: by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <3M7K8CYV>; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:25:07 -0400 Message-ID: <31B1EFDD2CD3D11187710000F805A8D56EE76C@crchy270.us.nortel.com> From: "Emad Qaddoura" To: "Vahe Balabanian" , sanket@utdallas.edu Cc: rem-conf@es.net, roamops@tdmx.rutgers.edu, qosr@Newbridge.COM, iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com, "Russ Coffin" , "Paula Smith" , "Mohamad Khalil" , "Donald Wurch" , "Carey Becker" , "Mary Barnes" , "Akram Hosain" , "Liem Le" , "Basavaraj Patil" , "Ron Young" , "Mohammed Hasan" , "Jennifer Attaway" Subject: RE: QoS Issues for Transport of Multimedia Data over Cellular Wir eless Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:24:38 -0400 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Thanks for replying. This will be held from 9am-2pm at 2201 BNR building in room DIN-T22 (meet at security). Breakfast and lunch will be provided. We will be discussing IP Moblility research topics and Dr. Cobb's presentation. Thanks. Jenn Attaway for Emad Qaddoura > -----Original Message----- > From: Balabanian, Vahe [CAR:5A03-M:COCOS] > Sent: Monday, June 29, 1998 8:24 AM > To: sanket@utdallas.edu > Cc: rem-conf@es.net; roamops@tdmx.rutgers.edu; qosr@Newbridge.COM; > iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com > Subject: re:QoS Issues for Transport of Multimedia Data over Cellular > Wireless > > Dear Sanket, MPEG has been looking at the matter of network > independent and media dependent stream QoS for some time now. > I wish to direct your attention to the ISO/IEC Delivery Multimedia > Integration Framework Final CD on http://drogo.cselt.it/mpeg/ > > The DMIF Reference code operating over IP has been implementated by > Xbind Inc. and the source code will be donated to ISO for general > availability along with the DMIF Specification. > > DMIF has also been presented to the AVT in a technical proposal > draft-ietf-avt-rtp-mpeg4-dmif-00.txt > > Regards, > > Vahe Balabanian > Nortel > > In message "QoS Issues for Transport of Multimedia Data over Cellular > Wireless", sanket@utdallas.edu writes: > > >Hi, > > I am working on the QoS issues for the transport of multimediadata > over > >a variety of networks (including cellular, and possibly ad-hoc networks) > as a > >part of my Master's thesis. I want to look at these aspects in an > >architecture independent manner. More specifically, I am interested in > >looking at the modifications needed to transport multimedia data over > >networks using Mobile IP at the network layer, RTP/RTCP payload in UDP > >packets, and how the different QoS parameters like jitter, end to end > >delay etc could be satisfied in such a scenario. > > Almost all of the literature that I have come across treats the > >topic at a lower layer, assuming the existence of an ATM network and > using > >Wireless ATM to extend it over the wireless hop. In this, the QoS is > >guaranteed by reserving timeslots in the TDM frames sent to the mobile > >host. However, I feel that assuming the existence of an end-to-end ATM > n/w > >is not valid as the end-to-end connection may span across diverse > >networks, all of which may not guarantee deterministic delays etc. I > >intend to look at the issues from the modifications needed at the network > > >and the transport layers in an architecture independent manner. > > I have not been able to find any literature on this topic, and if > >anyone could provide me with useful pointers to information on this topic > > >it would be great. Also, if you could let me know your points of view on > >looking at QoS provisioning in this manner, I would really grateful. > > > >Thanks, > >Sanket Nesargi > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sanket S. Nesargi > > > > Research Assistant | 2400 Waterview Parkway, #1215 > > Distributed Systems Lab | Richardson, TX - 75080 > > UT Dallas | > > Off: (972) 883 2420 | Res: (972) 437 1740 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------- > This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From rem-conf Mon Jul 06 13:32:16 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jul 06 13:32:16 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ytHvR-0005A1-00; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:31:49 -0700 Received: from mailgate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.74] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ytHvQ-00059q-00; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:31:48 -0700 Received: from zcard00n.ca.nortel.com (actually 47.116.0.118) by mailgate; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:28:19 -0400 Received: by zcard00n.ca.nortel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <3M7K8C5A>; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:27:27 -0400 Message-ID: <31B1EFDD2CD3D11187710000F805A8D56EE76D@crchy270.us.nortel.com> From: "Emad Qaddoura" To: "Emad Qaddoura" , "Vahe Balabanian" , sanket@utdallas.edu Cc: rem-conf@es.net, roamops@tdmx.rutgers.edu, qosr@Newbridge.COM, iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com, "Russ Coffin" , "Paula Smith" , "Mohamad Khalil" , "Donald Wurch" , "Carey Becker" , "Mary Barnes" , "Akram Hosain" , "Liem Le" , "Basavaraj Patil" , "Ron Young" , "Mohammed Hasan" , "Jennifer Attaway" Subject: RE: QoS Issues for Transport of Multimedia Data over Cellular Wir eless Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:27:05 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list My deepest apologies. Below was a reply to a different email. I greatly apoligize for the mistake. Please disregard. Thanks Jenn Attaway > -----Original Message----- > From: Qaddoura, Emad [RICH2:IP10-M:EXCH] > Sent: Monday, July 06, 1998 3:25 PM > To: Balabanian, Vahe [CAR:5A03-M:COCOS]; sanket@utdallas.edu > Cc: rem-conf@es.net; roamops@tdmx.rutgers.edu; qosr@Newbridge.COM; > iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com; Coffin, Russ [RICH1:IP00-M:EXCH]; > Smith, Paula [RICH:5154:EXCH]; Khalil, Mohamad [RICH2:IP10:EXCH]; Wurch, > Donald [RICH1:IP10-I:EXCH]; Becker, Carey [RICH2:5154-I:EXCH]; Barnes, > Mary [RICH4:IP10-I:EXCH]; Hosain, Akram [RICH2:2Q52:EXCH]; Le, Liem > [RICH1:IP10:EXCH]; Patil, Basavaraj [RICH2:IP10:EXCH]; Young, Ron > [RICH1:IP10:EXCH]; Hasan, Mohammed [RICH2:2H31:EXCH]; Attaway, Jennifer > [RICH2:4803:EXCH] > Subject: RE: QoS Issues for Transport of Multimedia Data over > Cellular Wireless > Importance: High > > Thanks for replying. This will be held from 9am-2pm at 2201 BNR building > in room DIN-T22 (meet at security). Breakfast and lunch will be provided. > We will be discussing IP Moblility research topics and Dr. Cobb's > presentation. > > Thanks. > > Jenn Attaway for Emad Qaddoura > > -----Original Message----- > From: Balabanian, Vahe [CAR:5A03-M:COCOS] > Sent: Monday, June 29, 1998 8:24 AM > To: sanket@utdallas.edu > Cc: rem-conf@es.net; roamops@tdmx.rutgers.edu; > qosr@Newbridge.COM; iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com > Subject: re:QoS Issues for Transport of Multimedia Data over > Cellular Wireless > > Dear Sanket, MPEG has been looking at the matter of network > independent and media dependent stream QoS for some time now. > I wish to direct your attention to the ISO/IEC Delivery Multimedia > Integration Framework Final CD on http://drogo.cselt.it/mpeg/ > > The DMIF Reference code operating over IP has been implementated by > Xbind Inc. and the source code will be donated to ISO for general > availability along with the DMIF Specification. > > DMIF has also been presented to the AVT in a technical proposal > draft-ietf-avt-rtp-mpeg4-dmif-00.txt > > Regards, > > Vahe Balabanian > Nortel > > In message "QoS Issues for Transport of Multimedia Data over > Cellular Wireless", sanket@utdallas.edu writes: > > >Hi, > > I am working on the QoS issues for the transport of > multimediadata over > >a variety of networks (including cellular, and possibly ad-hoc > networks) as a > >part of my Master's thesis. I want to look at these aspects in an > >architecture independent manner. More specifically, I am > interested in > >looking at the modifications needed to transport multimedia data > over > >networks using Mobile IP at the network layer, RTP/RTCP payload in > UDP > >packets, and how the different QoS parameters like jitter, end to > end > >delay etc could be satisfied in such a scenario. > > Almost all of the literature that I have come across treats > the > >topic at a lower layer, assuming the existence of an ATM network > and using > >Wireless ATM to extend it over the wireless hop. In this, the QoS > is > >guaranteed by reserving timeslots in the TDM frames sent to the > mobile > >host. However, I feel that assuming the existence of an end-to-end > ATM n/w > >is not valid as the end-to-end connection may span across diverse > >networks, all of which may not guarantee deterministic delays etc. > I > >intend to look at the issues from the modifications needed at the > network > >and the transport layers in an architecture independent manner. > > I have not been able to find any literature on this topic, > and if > >anyone could provide me with useful pointers to information on this > topic > >it would be great. Also, if you could let me know your points of > view on > >looking at QoS provisioning in this manner, I would really > grateful. > > > >Thanks, > >Sanket Nesargi > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sanket S. Nesargi > > > > Research Assistant | 2400 Waterview Parkway, #1215 > > > Distributed Systems Lab | Richardson, TX - 75080 > > UT Dallas | > > Off: (972) 883 2420 | Res: (972) 437 1740 > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------- > This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. 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Madhavi" X-Sender: madhavi@virgo To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: remove Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list From rem-conf Wed Jul 08 01:30:03 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 08 01:30:02 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ytpPn-0007iu-00; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 01:17:23 -0700 Received: from nemesis.csi.forth.gr [139.91.151.3] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ytpPl-0007ii-00; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 01:17:21 -0700 Received: from mickey.csi.forth.gr (mickey.csi.forth.gr [139.91.182.40]) by nemesis.csi.forth.gr (8.8.7/ICS-FORTH/V3) with SMTP id LAA10124 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:16:56 +0300 (EET DST) From: spapad@csi.forth.gr Posted-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:16:56 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by mickey.csi.forth.gr (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/30Jun94-0118PM) id AA22025; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:16:48 +0300 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:16:48 +0300 Message-Id: <9807080816.AA22025@mickey.csi.forth.gr> Organization: Institute of Computer Science, Foundation for Research and Technology-Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385 GR 711 10 Heraklion, Crete, Greece tel.: +30 (81) 39 16 00, fax: +30 (81) 39 16 01 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: ECDL98 - Call for Participation and Preliminary Programme X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list _____________________________________________________________________________ Call for Participation and Preliminary Programme for the Second European Conference on Research and Advanced Technology for Digital Libraries European European IEEE ICS-FORTH University of Union Research Computer Crete Consortium for Society Informatics and Mathematics 19 - 23 September, 1998 Knossos Royal Village, Heraklion, Crete, Greece Web Page: http://www.csi.forth.gr/2EuroDL E-mail: ecdl@cc.uch.gr _____________________________________________________________________________ We cordially invite you to join us at the Second European Conference on Research and Advanced Technology for Digital Libraries, to be held at Heraklion, Crete, Greece, September 19-23. The conference opening session will take place at 9.00a.m. on Monday the 21th of September 1998 and the final session will take place on Wednesday afternoon, the 23th of September 1998. The technical talks are complemented by internationally renowned experts' invited presentations and special sessions, panel discussions, as well as poster and demonstration sessions. The 7th DELOS Workshop on Electronic Commerce will be held jointly with the Second European Conference on Research and Advanced Technology. Tutorials will be organized on the 19th and 20th of September 1998. Please note that early registration deadline is July 31, 1998. A limited number of fellowships for the Conference and also for Tutorials are available. For more information, including registration and fellowship application forms, please consult the appropriate sections of our conference web pages. Details concerning the Conference Programme can be found at the conference web page, under the 'Conference Programme' section, http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/programme.html For specific information please consult the appropriate sections of the conference web pages: Paper Sessions - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/accpapers.html Panel Sessions - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/panels.html Posters - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/posters.html Demos - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/demos.html Tutorials - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/tutorials.html Invited Speakers - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/speakers.html Special Sessions - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/sessions.html 7th DELOS Workshop on Electronic Commerce - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/Delos-7.html Please find attached the Preliminary Conference Programme as well as information on Tutorials and Paper Sessions, including titles and authors. ______________________________________________________________________________ Tutorials http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/tutorials.html ______________________________________________________________________________ SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 19 Full Day Tutorials Visual Information Systems by Babu M. Mehtre Multimedia Information Retrieval, categorisation, and filtering by Pasquale Savino and Fabrizio Sebastiani Half Day Tutorials Designing Content for the Web of Tomorrow World Wide Web Consortium sponsored Tutorial by Bert Bos Secure Communication and Payments over the Internet by Amir Herzberg SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 20 Full Day Tutorials Internet Technologies for the Digital Library by Larry Masinter Thesauri for knowledge-based assistance in searching digital libraries by Dagobert Soergel Metadata for Networked Resources by Renato Iannella, Carl Lagoze and Stuart Weibel ______________________________________________________________________________ Preliminary Conference Programme [* implies pending final confirmation] http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/programme.html ______________________________________________________________________________ MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21 8:30 - 9:15 Opening Ceremony C. Nikolaou, ECDL98 Programme Chair G. Arsenis, Minister of Education and Religious Affairs * N. Adam, Digital Libraries Technical Committee, IEEE Computer Society C. Spiraki, Rector, University of Crete E. Economou, Chairman FORTH * S. Orphanoudakis, Vice President ERCIM, Director ICS-FORTH 9:15 - 10:30 Plenary Session A Invited Speaker: D. Ferguson, Chief Architect, Director, Application Development Division, IBM, and IBM Academy, USA 10:30 - 10:45      Coffee Break 10:45 - 12:30 Parallel Session B PS B1 - DELOS Workshop PS B2 - Special Session Organizer: Ann Okerson PS B3 - Paper Session: Architectures for DLs PS B4 - Paper Session: Image DLs 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch Break 14:00 - 16:30 Plenary Session C Invited Speakers: J. O'Donnell, Professor of classical studies, Vice Provost for Computing, University of Pennsylvania, USA A. Friedlander CNRI, Editor of the D-Lib Magazine W. Arms CNRI, Publisher of the D-Lib Magazine 16:30 - 16:45 Coffee Break 16:45 - 18:40 Parallel Session D PS D1 - DELOS Workshop PS D2 - Paper Session: Multilinguality PS D3 - Paper Session: DL Technologies for Libraries PS D4 - Paper Session: Case Studies I - Invited Speaker Y. Ioannidis, Professor, University of Athens ______________________________________________________________________________ TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22 8:30 - 10:30 Plenary Session E Invited Speakers M. Maybury, Advanced Information Systems Center The MITRE Corporation E. Gelenbe, Nello L. Teer Jr. Professor and Chair of Electrical and Computer Engineering Duke University, USA 10:30 - 10:45 Coffee Break 10:45 - 12:30 Parallel Session F PS F1 - DELOS Workshop PS F2 - Special Session Organizer: D. Law PS F3 - Paper Session: Case Studies II - Invited Speaker E. Neuhold, R. Ferber, GMD-IPSI PS F4 - Panel Session DL Technology for Health Care Coordinator: S. Orfanoudakis - Paper Session: Navigation and DLs 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch Break 14:00 - 15:15 Plenary Session G Keynote Speaker: G. Papandreou, Alternate Minister for Foreign Affairs, Greece 15:15 - 16:30 Plenary Session H Invited Speaker: V. Jongeneel, Director, Swiss Institute for Bioinformatics Switzerland 16:30 - 16:45 Coffee Break 16:45 - 17:45 Parallel Session I PS I1 - Panel Session Interaction Design in Digital Libraries Coordinator: C. Stephanidis PS I2 - Panel Session Metadata and content-based approaches to resource discovery Coordinator: T. Baker and J. Klavan PS I3 - Paper Session: IR for DLs 17:45 - 19:10 Parallel Session J PS J1 - DELOS Workshop PS J2 - Paper Session: Querying in DLs PS J3 - Paper Session: Human Computer Interaction for DLs ______________________________________________________________________________ WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23 8:15 - 10:45 Posters and Demos 10:45 - 11:00 Coffee Break 11:00 - 12:30 Parallel Session K PS K1 - DELOS Workshop PS K2 - Paper Session: Natural Language Processing for DLs PS K3 - Panel Session Architectures and services for cultural heritage information Coordinator: P. Constantopoulos PS K4 - Panel Session Federated scientific data repositories for the environment towards global scalable management of environmental information: How useful will they be? What is their potential impact? Shall we save the environment? Coordinator: C. Houstis 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch Break 14:00 - 15:15 Plenary Session L Panel Session EU and US funding policies for Digital Libraries Coordinator: C. Nikolaou 15:30 - 16:45 Plenary Session M Panel Session Findings of the ESPRIT NSF Working Group on Digital Libraries Coordinator: C. Peters 16:45 - 17:00 Closing Remarks Serge Abiteboul, ECDL99 Programme Chair ______________________________________________________________________________ Paper Sessions http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/accpapers.html ______________________________________________________________________________ Architectures for Digital Libraries [Parallel Session B3, Monday 21, 10:45 - 12:30] Session Chair: S. Haridi, Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Sweden Flexible and Extensible Digital Object and Repository Architecture (FEDORA) Sandra Payette, Carl Lagoze Cornell University, USA The Alexandria Digital Library Architecture James Frew, Michael Freeston, Nathan Freitas, Linda Hill, Greg Janee, Kevin Lovette, Robert Nideffer, Terence Smith, Qi Zheng University of California, Santa Barbara, USA A Framework for the Encapsulation of Value-Added Services in Digital Objects Manolis Marazakis, Dimitris Papadakis, Stavros A. Papadakis University of Crete and ICS-FORTH, Greece A Management Architecture for Measuring and Monitoring the Behavior of Digital Libraries Sarantos Kapidakis, ICS-FORTH, Greece, Sotirios Terzis, Trinity College, University of Dublin, Ireland, Jakka Sairamesh, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center, USA Building HyperNavigation Wrappers for Publisher Web-Sites Lukas C. Faulstich, Freie Universitat Berlin, Germany, Myra Spiliopoulou, Humboldt-Universitat zu Berlin, Germany ______________________________________________________________________________ Image Digital Libraries [Parallel Session B4, Monday 21, 10:45 - 12:30] Session Chair: S. Abiteboul, INRIA, France Combining Color and Spatial Information for Content-based Image Retrieval Ramin Zabih, Jing Huang Cornell University, USA The Application of Metadata Standards to Video Indexing Jane Hunter University of Queensland, Australia Search and Progressive Image Retrieval from Distributed Image/Video Databases: the SPIRE project Vittorio Castelli, Lawrence D. Bergman, Chung-Sheng Li, John R. Smith IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center, USA Improving the Spatial-Temporal Clue Based Segmentation by the use of Rhythm Walid Mahdi, Liming Chen, Dominique Fontaine Universite de Technologie de Compiegne, France ______________________________________________________________________________ Multilinguality [Parallel Session D2, Monday 21, 16:45 - 18:40] Session Chair: C. Peters, IEI-CNR, Italy Multilingual Information Retrieval Based on Document Alignment Techniques Martin Braschler, Eurospider Information Technology AG, Switzerland, Peter Schauble, ETH Zurich, Switzerland Experimental Studies on an Applet-based Document Viewer for Multilingual WWW Documents - Functional Extension of and Lessons Learned from Multilingual HTML Shigeo Sugimoto, Myriam Dartois, Jun Ohta, Shigetaka Nakao, Tetsuo Sakaguchi, Koichi Tabata, University of Library and Information Science, Japan, Akira Maeda, Nara Institute of Science and Technology, Japan SIS - TMS A Thesaurus Management System for Distributed Digital Collections Martin Doerr, Irini Fountoulaki ICS-FORTH, Greece Parallel Text Alignment Charles B. Owen, Michigan State University, USA James Ford, Fillia Makedon, Tilmann Steinberg, Dartmouth College, USA ______________________________________________________________________________ DL Technologies for Libraries [Parallel Session D3, Monday 21, 16:45 - 18:40] Session Chair: I. Solvberg, University of Science and Technology, Norway An Analysis of Usage of a Digital Library Steve Jones, Sally Jo Cunningham, Rodger McNab University of Waikato, New Zealand ILLUSTRATED BOOK STUDY: Digital Conversion Requirements of Printed Illustrations Anne R. Kenney, Cornell University, USA, Louis H. Sharpe II, Picture Elements, Inc., USA, Barbara Berger, Cornell University, USA Structuring Facilities in Digital Libraries Peter J. Nuernberg, Aarhus University, Germany Uffe K. Wiil, Aalborg University, Germany John J. Leggett, Texas A&M University, USA E-Referencer: A Prototype Expert System Web Interface to Online Catalogs Christopher Khoo, Soon-Kah Liew, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore Danny C.C. Poo, Teck-Kang Toh, National University of Singapore, Singapore ______________________________________________________________________________ Case Studies I [Parallel Session D4, Monday 21, 16:45 - 18:40] Session Chair: C. Thanos, IEI-CNR, Italy Scientific Workflow Management Invited Speaker: Prof. Yiannis Ioannidis, University of Athens The Planetary Data System. A Case Study in the Development and Management of Meta-Data for a Scientific Digital Library J. Steven Hughes, Susan K. McMahon JPL, California Institute of Technology, USA Performing Arts Data Service - An Online Digital Resource Library Steve Malloch, Carola Boehm, Celia Duffy, Catherine Owen, Stephen Arnold, Tony Pearson University of Glasgow, UK ______________________________________________________________________________ Case Studies II [Parallel Session F3, Tuesday 22, 10:45 - 12:30] Session Chair: C. Houstis, University of Crete and ICS-FORTH, Greece Global Info Invited Speakers: Dr. Erich Neuhold and Dr. Reginald Ferber, GMD-IPSI Invited Paper [title to be announced shortly] Robin Wright Online Manager Cinemedia Invited Paper [title to be announced shortly] Richard Paterson Head of Information and Education Division, British Film Institute ______________________________________________________________________________ Navigation and DLs [Parallel Session F4, Tuesday 22, 11:45 - 12:25] Session Chair: C. Lagoze, Cornell University, USA Learning User Communities for Improving the Services of Information Providers Georgios Paliouras, Christos Papatheodorou, Vangelis Karkaletsis, Costantine Spyropoulos, Victoria Malaveta NCSR Demokritos, Greece Soft Navigation in Product Catalogs Markus Stolze IBM Research Division, Zurich Research Laboratory, Switzerland ______________________________________________________________________________ IR for DLs [Parallel Session I3, Tuesday 22, 16:45 - 17:45] Session chair: P. Schauble, ETH Zurich, Switzerland Mixing and Merging for Spoken Document Retrieval Mark Sanderson, University of Massachusetts, USA Fabio Crestani, University of Glasgow, UK An Integrated Approach to Semantic Evaluation and Content-Based Retrieval of Multimedia Documents A. Knoll, University of Bielefeld, C. Altenschmidt, J. Biskup, University of Dortmund, H.-M. Blüthgen, University of Technology RWTH Aachen, I. Glöckner, University of Bielefeld, S. Hartrumpf, H. Helbig, Fernuniversität Hagen, C. Henning, University of Technology RWTH Aachen, R. Lüling, B. Monien, University of Paderborn, T. Noll, University of Technology RWTH Aachen, N. Sensen, University of Paderborn, Germany Taiscealai: Information Retrieval from an Archive of Spoken Radio News A.F. Smeaton, School of Computer Applications, Dublin City University M. Morony, School of Electronic Engineering, Dublin City University G. Quinn, School of Computer Applications, Dublin City University R. Scaife, School of Electronic Engineering, Dublin City University Ireland ______________________________________________________________________________ Querying in DLs [Parallel Session J2, Tuesday 22, 17:45 - 19:05] Session Chair: H.J. Schek, ETH Zurich, Switzerland Semantic Structuring and Visual Querying of Document Abstracts in Digital Libraries Andreas Becks, Stefan Sklorz, Lehrstuhl fur Informatik, RWTH Aachen, Germany, Christopher Tresp, LuFG Theoretische Informatik, RWTH Aachen, Germany Documentation, Cataloging and Query by Navigation: A Practical and Sound Approach F.J.M. Bosman, P.D. Bruza, Th.P. van der Weide, L.V.M. Weusten Signature File Methods for Semantic Query Caching Boris Chidlovskii, Xerox Research Centre Europe, France, Uwe M. Borghoff, Universität der Bundeswehr München, Germany Introducing MIRA: a Retrieval Applications' Development Environment Jose M. Martinez, Jesus Bescos, Guillermo Cisneros Universidad Politecnica de Madrid, Spain ______________________________________________________________________________ Human Computer Interaction for DLs [Parallel Session J3, Tuesday 22, 17:45 - 18:45] Session chair: C. Stephanidis, ICS-FORTH, Greece Interacting With IDL: The Adaptive Visual Interface M. F. Costabile, F. Esposito, G. Semeraro, N. Fanizzi, S. Ferilli Universita di Bari, Italy Evaluating a Visual Navigation System for a Digital Library Anton Leouski, James Allan Visualizing Document Classification: A Search Aid for the Digital Library Yew-Huey Liu, Paul Dantzig, and Martin Sachs IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, USA, Jim Corey, Mark Hinnebusch and Terry Sullivan Florida Center For Library Automation, USA, Marc Damashek and Jonathan Cohen U.S. Department of Defense, USA ______________________________________________________________________________ Natural Language Processing for DLs [Parallel Session K2, Wednesday 23, 11:00 - 12:20] Session Chair: S. Weibel, OCLC, USA A Linguistically Motivated Probabilistic Model of Information Retrieval Djoerd Hiemstra University of Twente, The Netherlands The C-value/NC-value method of Automatic Recognition for Multi-Word Terms Katerina Frantzi, Sophia Ananiadou, Manchester Metropolitan University, UK, Junichi Tsujii, University of Tokyo, Japan Comparing the Effect of Syntactic vs. Statistical Phrase Indexing Strategies for Dutch Wessel Kraaij, Institute of Applied Physics, TNO, The Netherlands, Renee Pohlmann, Utrecht University, The Netherlands Reduction of Expanded Search Terms for Fuzzy English-text Retrieval Manabu Ohta, University of Tokyo, Japan, Atsuhiro Takasu, Jun Adachi National Center for Science Information Systems, Japan From rem-conf Wed Jul 08 05:39:07 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 08 05:39:06 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yttMw-0002Ad-00; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 05:30:42 -0700 Received: from tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.9] (root) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yttMt-0002AP-00; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 05:30:39 -0700 Received: from tk-klaus.prz.tu-berlin.de (tk-klaus.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.226.33]) by tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA23586; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:27:50 +0200 (MESZ) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:35:43 +0200 Message-ID: <01BDAA7D.B00CBA60.klaus@prz.tu-berlin.de> From: "Dr. Klaus Rebensburg" To: "'spapad@csi.forth.gr'" , "rem-conf@es.net" Subject: AW: ECDL98 - Call for Participation and Preliminary Programme Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:35:42 +0200 Organization: PRZ/FSP-PV TU-Berlin X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Absender: | Prof. Dr.-Ing. 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Juli 1998 10:17 An: rem-conf@es.net Betreff: ECDL98 - Call for Participation and Preliminary Programme _____________________________________________________________________________ Call for Participation and Preliminary Programme for the Second European Conference on Research and Advanced Technology for Digital Libraries European European IEEE ICS-FORTH University of Union Research Computer Crete Consortium for Society Informatics and Mathematics 19 - 23 September, 1998 Knossos Royal Village, Heraklion, Crete, Greece Web Page: http://www.csi.forth.gr/2EuroDL E-mail: ecdl@cc.uch.gr _____________________________________________________________________________ We cordially invite you to join us at the Second European Conference on Research and Advanced Technology for Digital Libraries, to be held at Heraklion, Crete, Greece, September 19-23. The conference opening session will take place at 9.00a.m. on Monday the 21th of September 1998 and the final session will take place on Wednesday afternoon, the 23th of September 1998. The technical talks are complemented by internationally renowned experts' invited presentations and special sessions, panel discussions, as well as poster and demonstration sessions. The 7th DELOS Workshop on Electronic Commerce will be held jointly with the Second European Conference on Research and Advanced Technology. Tutorials will be organized on the 19th and 20th of September 1998. Please note that early registration deadline is July 31, 1998. A limited number of fellowships for the Conference and also for Tutorials are available. For more information, including registration and fellowship application forms, please consult the appropriate sections of our conference web pages. Details concerning the Conference Programme can be found at the conference web page, under the 'Conference Programme' section, http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/programme.html For specific information please consult the appropriate sections of the conference web pages: Paper Sessions - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/accpapers.html Panel Sessions - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/panels.html Posters - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/posters.html Demos - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/demos.html Tutorials - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/tutorials.html Invited Speakers - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/speakers.html Special Sessions - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/sessions.html 7th DELOS Workshop on Electronic Commerce - http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/Delos-7.html Please find attached the Preliminary Conference Programme as well as information on Tutorials and Paper Sessions, including titles and authors. ______________________________________________________________________________ Tutorials http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/tutorials.html ______________________________________________________________________________ SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 19 Full Day Tutorials Visual Information Systems by Babu M. Mehtre Multimedia Information Retrieval, categorisation, and filtering by Pasquale Savino and Fabrizio Sebastiani Half Day Tutorials Designing Content for the Web of Tomorrow World Wide Web Consortium sponsored Tutorial by Bert Bos Secure Communication and Payments over the Internet by Amir Herzberg SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 20 Full Day Tutorials Internet Technologies for the Digital Library by Larry Masinter Thesauri for knowledge-based assistance in searching digital libraries by Dagobert Soergel Metadata for Networked Resources by Renato Iannella, Carl Lagoze and Stuart Weibel ______________________________________________________________________________ Preliminary Conference Programme [* implies pending final confirmation] http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/programme.html ______________________________________________________________________________ MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21 8:30 - 9:15 Opening Ceremony C. Nikolaou, ECDL98 Programme Chair G. Arsenis, Minister of Education and Religious Affairs * N. Adam, Digital Libraries Technical Committee, IEEE Computer Society C. Spiraki, Rector, University of Crete E. Economou, Chairman FORTH * S. Orphanoudakis, Vice President ERCIM, Director ICS-FORTH 9:15 - 10:30 Plenary Session A Invited Speaker: D. Ferguson, Chief Architect, Director, Application Development Division, IBM, and IBM Academy, USA 10:30 - 10:45 Coffee Break 10:45 - 12:30 Parallel Session B PS B1 - DELOS Workshop PS B2 - Special Session Organizer: Ann Okerson PS B3 - Paper Session: Architectures for DLs PS B4 - Paper Session: Image DLs 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch Break 14:00 - 16:30 Plenary Session C Invited Speakers: J. O'Donnell, Professor of classical studies, Vice Provost for Computing, University of Pennsylvania, USA A. Friedlander CNRI, Editor of the D-Lib Magazine W. Arms CNRI, Publisher of the D-Lib Magazine 16:30 - 16:45 Coffee Break 16:45 - 18:40 Parallel Session D PS D1 - DELOS Workshop PS D2 - Paper Session: Multilinguality PS D3 - Paper Session: DL Technologies for Libraries PS D4 - Paper Session: Case Studies I - Invited Speaker Y. Ioannidis, Professor, University of Athens ______________________________________________________________________________ TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22 8:30 - 10:30 Plenary Session E Invited Speakers M. Maybury, Advanced Information Systems Center The MITRE Corporation E. Gelenbe, Nello L. Teer Jr. Professor and Chair of Electrical and Computer Engineering Duke University, USA 10:30 - 10:45 Coffee Break 10:45 - 12:30 Parallel Session F PS F1 - DELOS Workshop PS F2 - Special Session Organizer: D. Law PS F3 - Paper Session: Case Studies II - Invited Speaker E. Neuhold, R. Ferber, GMD-IPSI PS F4 - Panel Session DL Technology for Health Care Coordinator: S. Orfanoudakis - Paper Session: Navigation and DLs 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch Break 14:00 - 15:15 Plenary Session G Keynote Speaker: G. Papandreou, Alternate Minister for Foreign Affairs, Greece 15:15 - 16:30 Plenary Session H Invited Speaker: V. Jongeneel, Director, Swiss Institute for Bioinformatics Switzerland 16:30 - 16:45 Coffee Break 16:45 - 17:45 Parallel Session I PS I1 - Panel Session Interaction Design in Digital Libraries Coordinator: C. Stephanidis PS I2 - Panel Session Metadata and content-based approaches to resource discovery Coordinator: T. Baker and J. Klavan PS I3 - Paper Session: IR for DLs 17:45 - 19:10 Parallel Session J PS J1 - DELOS Workshop PS J2 - Paper Session: Querying in DLs PS J3 - Paper Session: Human Computer Interaction for DLs ______________________________________________________________________________ WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23 8:15 - 10:45 Posters and Demos 10:45 - 11:00 Coffee Break 11:00 - 12:30 Parallel Session K PS K1 - DELOS Workshop PS K2 - Paper Session: Natural Language Processing for DLs PS K3 - Panel Session Architectures and services for cultural heritage information Coordinator: P. Constantopoulos PS K4 - Panel Session Federated scientific data repositories for the environment towards global scalable management of environmental information: How useful will they be? What is their potential impact? Shall we save the environment? Coordinator: C. Houstis 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch Break 14:00 - 15:15 Plenary Session L Panel Session EU and US funding policies for Digital Libraries Coordinator: C. Nikolaou 15:30 - 16:45 Plenary Session M Panel Session Findings of the ESPRIT NSF Working Group on Digital Libraries Coordinator: C. Peters 16:45 - 17:00 Closing Remarks Serge Abiteboul, ECDL99 Programme Chair ______________________________________________________________________________ Paper Sessions http://www.ics.forth.gr/2EuroDL/highlights/accpapers.html ______________________________________________________________________________ Architectures for Digital Libraries [Parallel Session B3, Monday 21, 10:45 - 12:30] Session Chair: S. Haridi, Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Sweden Flexible and Extensible Digital Object and Repository Architecture (FEDORA) Sandra Payette, Carl Lagoze Cornell University, USA The Alexandria Digital Library Architecture James Frew, Michael Freeston, Nathan Freitas, Linda Hill, Greg Janee, Kevin Lovette, Robert Nideffer, Terence Smith, Qi Zheng University of California, Santa Barbara, USA A Framework for the Encapsulation of Value-Added Services in Digital Objects Manolis Marazakis, Dimitris Papadakis, Stavros A. Papadakis University of Crete and ICS-FORTH, Greece A Management Architecture for Measuring and Monitoring the Behavior of Digital Libraries Sarantos Kapidakis, ICS-FORTH, Greece, Sotirios Terzis, Trinity College, University of Dublin, Ireland, Jakka Sairamesh, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center, USA Building HyperNavigation Wrappers for Publisher Web-Sites Lukas C. Faulstich, Freie Universitat Berlin, Germany, Myra Spiliopoulou, Humboldt-Universitat zu Berlin, Germany ______________________________________________________________________________ Image Digital Libraries [Parallel Session B4, Monday 21, 10:45 - 12:30] Session Chair: S. Abiteboul, INRIA, France Combining Color and Spatial Information for Content-based Image Retrieval Ramin Zabih, Jing Huang Cornell University, USA The Application of Metadata Standards to Video Indexing Jane Hunter University of Queensland, Australia Search and Progressive Image Retrieval from Distributed Image/Video Databases: the SPIRE project Vittorio Castelli, Lawrence D. Bergman, Chung-Sheng Li, John R. Smith IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center, USA Improving the Spatial-Temporal Clue Based Segmentation by the use of Rhythm Walid Mahdi, Liming Chen, Dominique Fontaine Universite de Technologie de Compiegne, France ______________________________________________________________________________ Multilinguality [Parallel Session D2, Monday 21, 16:45 - 18:40] Session Chair: C. Peters, IEI-CNR, Italy Multilingual Information Retrieval Based on Document Alignment Techniques Martin Braschler, Eurospider Information Technology AG, Switzerland, Peter Schauble, ETH Zurich, Switzerland Experimental Studies on an Applet-based Document Viewer for Multilingual WWW Documents - Functional Extension of and Lessons Learned from Multilingual HTML Shigeo Sugimoto, Myriam Dartois, Jun Ohta, Shigetaka Nakao, Tetsuo Sakaguchi, Koichi Tabata, University of Library and Information Science, Japan, Akira Maeda, Nara Institute of Science and Technology, Japan SIS - TMS A Thesaurus Management System for Distributed Digital Collections Martin Doerr, Irini Fountoulaki ICS-FORTH, Greece Parallel Text Alignment Charles B. Owen, Michigan State University, USA James Ford, Fillia Makedon, Tilmann Steinberg, Dartmouth College, USA ______________________________________________________________________________ DL Technologies for Libraries [Parallel Session D3, Monday 21, 16:45 - 18:40] Session Chair: I. Solvberg, University of Science and Technology, Norway An Analysis of Usage of a Digital Library Steve Jones, Sally Jo Cunningham, Rodger McNab University of Waikato, New Zealand ILLUSTRATED BOOK STUDY: Digital Conversion Requirements of Printed Illustrations Anne R. Kenney, Cornell University, USA, Louis H. Sharpe II, Picture Elements, Inc., USA, Barbara Berger, Cornell University, USA Structuring Facilities in Digital Libraries Peter J. Nuernberg, Aarhus University, Germany Uffe K. Wiil, Aalborg University, Germany John J. Leggett, Texas A&M University, USA E-Referencer: A Prototype Expert System Web Interface to Online Catalogs Christopher Khoo, Soon-Kah Liew, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore Danny C.C. Poo, Teck-Kang Toh, National University of Singapore, Singapore ______________________________________________________________________________ Case Studies I [Parallel Session D4, Monday 21, 16:45 - 18:40] Session Chair: C. Thanos, IEI-CNR, Italy Scientific Workflow Management Invited Speaker: Prof. Yiannis Ioannidis, University of Athens The Planetary Data System. A Case Study in the Development and Management of Meta-Data for a Scientific Digital Library J. Steven Hughes, Susan K. McMahon JPL, California Institute of Technology, USA Performing Arts Data Service - An Online Digital Resource Library Steve Malloch, Carola Boehm, Celia Duffy, Catherine Owen, Stephen Arnold, Tony Pearson University of Glasgow, UK ______________________________________________________________________________ Case Studies II [Parallel Session F3, Tuesday 22, 10:45 - 12:30] Session Chair: C. Houstis, University of Crete and ICS-FORTH, Greece Global Info Invited Speakers: Dr. Erich Neuhold and Dr. Reginald Ferber, GMD-IPSI Invited Paper [title to be announced shortly] Robin Wright Online Manager Cinemedia Invited Paper [title to be announced shortly] Richard Paterson Head of Information and Education Division, British Film Institute ______________________________________________________________________________ Navigation and DLs [Parallel Session F4, Tuesday 22, 11:45 - 12:25] Session Chair: C. Lagoze, Cornell University, USA Learning User Communities for Improving the Services of Information Providers Georgios Paliouras, Christos Papatheodorou, Vangelis Karkaletsis, Costantine Spyropoulos, Victoria Malaveta NCSR Demokritos, Greece Soft Navigation in Product Catalogs Markus Stolze IBM Research Division, Zurich Research Laboratory, Switzerland ______________________________________________________________________________ IR for DLs [Parallel Session I3, Tuesday 22, 16:45 - 17:45] Session chair: P. Schauble, ETH Zurich, Switzerland Mixing and Merging for Spoken Document Retrieval Mark Sanderson, University of Massachusetts, USA Fabio Crestani, University of Glasgow, UK An Integrated Approach to Semantic Evaluation and Content-Based Retrieval of Multimedia Documents A. Knoll, University of Bielefeld, C. Altenschmidt, J. Biskup, University of Dortmund, H.-M. Bluthgen, University of Technology RWTH Aachen, I. Glockner, University of Bielefeld, S. Hartrumpf, H. Helbig, Fernuniversitat Hagen, C. Henning, University of Technology RWTH Aachen, R. Luling, B. Monien, University of Paderborn, T. Noll, University of Technology RWTH Aachen, N. Sensen, University of Paderborn, Germany Taiscealai: Information Retrieval from an Archive of Spoken Radio News A.F. Smeaton, School of Computer Applications, Dublin City University M. Morony, School of Electronic Engineering, Dublin City University G. Quinn, School of Computer Applications, Dublin City University R. Scaife, School of Electronic Engineering, Dublin City University Ireland ______________________________________________________________________________ Querying in DLs [Parallel Session J2, Tuesday 22, 17:45 - 19:05] Session Chair: H.J. Schek, ETH Zurich, Switzerland Semantic Structuring and Visual Querying of Document Abstracts in Digital Libraries Andreas Becks, Stefan Sklorz, Lehrstuhl fur Informatik, RWTH Aachen, Germany, Christopher Tresp, LuFG Theoretische Informatik, RWTH Aachen, Germany Documentation, Cataloging and Query by Navigation: A Practical and Sound Approach F.J.M. Bosman, P.D. Bruza, Th.P. van der Weide, L.V.M. Weusten Signature File Methods for Semantic Query Caching Boris Chidlovskii, Xerox Research Centre Europe, France, Uwe M. Borghoff, Universitat der Bundeswehr Munchen, Germany Introducing MIRA: a Retrieval Applications' Development Environment Jose M. Martinez, Jesus Bescos, Guillermo Cisneros Universidad Politecnica de Madrid, Spain ______________________________________________________________________________ Human Computer Interaction for DLs [Parallel Session J3, Tuesday 22, 17:45 - 18:45] Session chair: C. Stephanidis, ICS-FORTH, Greece Interacting With IDL: The Adaptive Visual Interface M. F. Costabile, F. Esposito, G. Semeraro, N. Fanizzi, S. Ferilli Universita di Bari, Italy Evaluating a Visual Navigation System for a Digital Library Anton Leouski, James Allan Visualizing Document Classification: A Search Aid for the Digital Library Yew-Huey Liu, Paul Dantzig, and Martin Sachs IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, USA, Jim Corey, Mark Hinnebusch and Terry Sullivan Florida Center For Library Automation, USA, Marc Damashek and Jonathan Cohen U.S. Department of Defense, USA ______________________________________________________________________________ Natural Language Processing for DLs [Parallel Session K2, Wednesday 23, 11:00 - 12:20] Session Chair: S. Weibel, OCLC, USA A Linguistically Motivated Probabilistic Model of Information Retrieval Djoerd Hiemstra University of Twente, The Netherlands The C-value/NC-value method of Automatic Recognition for Multi-Word Terms Katerina Frantzi, Sophia Ananiadou, Manchester Metropolitan University, UK, Junichi Tsujii, University of Tokyo, Japan Comparing the Effect of Syntactic vs. Statistical Phrase Indexing Strategies for Dutch Wessel Kraaij, Institute of Applied Physics, TNO, The Netherlands, Renee Pohlmann, Utrecht University, The Netherlands Reduction of Expanded Search Terms for Fuzzy English-text Retrieval Manabu Ohta, University of Tokyo, Japan, Atsuhiro Takasu, Jun Adachi National Center for Science Information Systems, Japan From rem-conf Wed Jul 08 21:48:02 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 08 21:48:01 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yu8Ue-0002nu-00; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:39:40 -0700 Received: from smtp2.gte.net (smtp2.mailsrvcs.net) [207.115.153.31] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yu8Uc-0002ne-00; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:39:38 -0700 Received: from garyevan (1Cust118.tnt19.lax3.da.uu.net [208.254.132.118]) by smtp2.mailsrvcs.net with ESMTP id SAA11207 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:55:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003001bdaa91$9477c920$7684fed0@garyevan> Reply-To: "Gary Lewis Evans" From: "Gary Lewis Evans" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?SCWPF-_July_22=2C_1998_-_Mark_Your_Calendars_=96_2_great_p?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?resentations?= Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:58:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01BDAA91.937D8AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BDAA91.937D8AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SCWPF- July 22, 1998 - Mark Your Calendars =96 2 great presentations July 22, 1998 - Silicon Space and Acucorp will be presenting to the = mwmbers=20 Alan Tragarz (Client Services Manager) and Rich Toscano (Application = Developer) from Silicon Space will demonstrate Domino based Intranet = solutions.=20 First Godzilla - and now King Kong is re-born! San Diego based Acucorp with offices throughout the world, is = aggressively moving COBOL to the Internet. On July 22 they will make a presentation to the Southern California Web = Programmers Forum at the UCSD Super Computer Center. They have created = product that they claim is a viable alternative to JAVA. Listed below is their URL and Information from their web site. This = should be a good meeting and a technician will be there to answer = questions. Lets get out an critically look at this fresh approach. http://www.acucobol.com/acucobol.html=20 COBOL vs. Java The Problem Java was designed to solve a specific problem: how to write code that is = portable across many platforms, easy to use over the Internet and that = provides a high quality graphical user interface. Many companies would = like to take advantage of these features that Java provides but are = concerned about performance, Java's lack of a track record with large = application development, and the difficulties involved in interfacing = Java with existing corporate applications. Acucorp offers companies a = set of tools that provide the features of Java without the limitations = it imposes and without requiring a corporation to retrain its base of = experienced programmers.=20 The Acucorp Solution. a.. Portability ACUCOBOL is as portable as Java=20 Acucorp has developed a compile-to-object-code/runtime model for COBOL = that allows applications written in ACUCOBOL to be ported, with no = recompiling, to over 600 platforms. We have over 10 years experience = with this approach and have optimized our runtime engine so that your = applications run with no loss in performance.=20 a.. GUI Both Java and ACUCOBOL provide a GUI.=20 Having been written with the Web in mind, Java provides a standard set = of graphical interface tools while COBOL has traditionally been oriented = to character based "green screen" applications.=20 Acucorp has developed logical extensions to the ANSI COBOL syntax that = allow developers to remain in COBOL while providing access to the = expected set of graphical interface tools. Acucorp is the only COBOL = development tool vendor that has taken this approach. An interface = developed in ACUCOBOL can be easily ported to run in a web browser = through Acucorp's Web Browser Plug-in.=20 a.. Standards COBOL has a track record maintaining open standards=20 The standard for Java has been set by SUN Microsystems. The ISO has = recently approved Sun's PAS application. If implemented this would help = SUN reach its goal of making Java a non-proprietary open standard. = However there is no guarantee that the implementation of this standard = will not be hijacked by companies that compete with SUN.=20 The ANSI standard for COBOL has been set since 1968. Every 6 to 10 years = the standards for COBOL have been extended to meet the requirements of = the current computing environment.=20 ACUCOBOL fully conforms to the ANSI 85 COBOL standard, and will conform = to the ANSI 2000 COBOL standard when that standard is accepted.=20 a.. Applets / Web Based Computing Both ACUCOBOL and Java provide for distributing Applets over the = Web.=20 Java was designed to take advantage of the Web by allowing users to = download applications that would then run in the browser. While a = traditional approach to compiling COBOL would have made achieving this = functionality in COBOL difficult, Acucorp's unique approach allowed us = to provide the same capabilities as Java with very little modification = to our tools. Acucorp's Web Browser Plug-in allows users to download = COBOL applications over the Web and run them as applets within the = Browser window.=20 a.. Accuracy COBOL provides accurate computation on all platforms, Java does not. = COBOL defines the accuracy required during a calculation by using data = types like COMPUTATIONAL-3. This guarantees that the same code and data = will produce the same results on different systems.=20 While storage requirements for float and double are defined by Java, = precision during calculation is not. This means that a Java program that = uses floating point arithmetic can produce different answers on = different systems.=20 Even though it is too early to say whether Java has what it takes to = maintain it's current position as the hot new technology, COBOL has = shown it's ability to meet the requirements imposed by the demands of = the business world. While there is no one language standard that will = fit every operating requirement, the combination of proven technology, = track record and incorporation of new technology qualifies ACUCOBOL to = be a prime solution for companies that need portability, graphical = interfaces, and Web deployment of applications while maintaining the = quality and reliability offered by existing enterprise class code.=20 ACUCOBOL=AE-GT Version 3.2 San Diego, CA (September 18, 1997) -- Acucobol, Inc., a premier provider = of open systems COBOL development products and services, announces the = release of ACUCOBOL=AE-GT Version 3.2, Acucobol=92s proven, portable, = and year 2000 compliant development system. ACUCOBOL-GT provides a = natural method for COBOL programmers to develop graphical user = interfaces and client/server capabilities for their COBOL programs. It = is the only computer language in the world with graphical syntax = directly built in. ACUCOBOL-GT Version 3.2 allows developers to build full-featured GUIs by = simply adding extensions to ANSI-85 COBOL code. Features include = multithreading, modeless windows, a dual file system, a full set of = graphical controls, and the ability to execute GUI programs in a non-GUI = environment. ACUCOBOL-GT offers maximum object code portability, running = on over 600 platforms including Windows NT and UNIX without = recompilation.=20 "Acucobol is committed to the unique philosophy that all modern IS = requirements can be efficiently achieved without leaving COBOL," says = Dr. Pamela Coker, CEO and President for Acucobol. "Acucobol does not = rely on external C routines and other hooks to Visual Basic or Delphi = because we have full confidence in COBOL=92s ability to provide = full-featured GUI, client/server, and connections to relational database = engines. Acucobol is in the business of helping COBOL programmers = leverage their tried and true applications as well as their own skills. = We are not interested in introducing Visual Basic or Delphi because we = feel they are simply not necessary." ACUCOBOL-GT does not require any changes to the program logic to add a = graphical user interface. COBOL programmers can leverage their expertise = to update applications with a graphical front end without reengineering. = Because the entire program remains in COBOL, it is possible to have a = combination of character-based and graphical interface screens in the = same application. ACUCOBOL-GT allows you to run your applications = unchanged in a character-based environment. Founded in 1988, Acucobol is a privately held company headquartered in = San Diego, California. Additional offices are located in Benelux, = Germany, Ireland, Italy, Sweden, and the United Kingdom. Acucobol=92s = products are distributed in over 70 countries throughout the world. One Customer's Story 2021 Interactive is one company that is taking advantage of Acucorp = technology to make their application available to their customers over = the Internet. 2021 Interactive is a company dedicated to the direct = sales industry - they provide order entry, commission processing and = distribution software to network marketing companies. 2021 now markets = an Internet package called "Office2Office," written in ACUCOBOL-GT, = which gives customers their own home page, where consumers can place = secured credit card orders, receive volume status information, and send = text messages to their distributor network. 2021 customers are now able = to sell their products directly over the Web, using video, text, music = and pictures, where previously they relied on the telephone and fax for = receiving orders. To learn more about other Acucorp customers that are = taking advantage of the Internet, call your local Acucorp sales office. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BDAA91.937D8AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

SCWPF- July 22, 1998 - Mark Your Calendars – 2 great=20 presentations

July 22, 1998 - Silicon Space and Acucorp will be = presenting to=20 the mwmbers

Alan Tragarz (Client Services Manager) and Rich Toscano (Application = Developer) from Silicon Space will demonstrate Domino based Intranet = solutions.=20

First Godzilla - and now King Kong is=20 re-born!

San Diego based Acucorp with offices throughout the world, is = aggressively=20 moving COBOL to the Internet.

On July 22 they will make a presentation to the Southern California = Web=20 Programmers Forum at the UCSD Super Computer Center. They have created = product=20 that they claim is a viable alternative to JAVA.

Listed below is their URL and Information from their web site. This = should be=20 a good meeting and a technician will be there to answer questions. = Lets get=20 out an critically look at this fresh approach.

http://www.acucobol.com/acucobol.html

 

COBOL vs. Java

The Problem

Java was designed to solve a specific problem: how to write code that = is=20 portable across many platforms, easy to use over the Internet and that = provides=20 a high quality graphical user interface. Many companies would like to = take=20 advantage of these features that Java provides but are concerned about=20 performance, Java's lack of a track record with large application = development,=20 and the difficulties involved in interfacing Java with existing = corporate=20 applications. Acucorp offers companies a set of tools that provide the = features=20 of Java without the limitations it imposes and without requiring a = corporation=20 to retrain its base of experienced programmers.

The Acucorp Solution.

  • Portability
    ACUCOBOL is as portable as Java     =

Acucorp has developed a compile-to-object-code/runtime model for = COBOL that=20 allows applications written in ACUCOBOL to be ported, with no = recompiling, to=20 over 600 platforms. We have over 10 years experience with this approach = and have=20 optimized our runtime engine so that your applications run with no loss = in=20 performance.

  • GUI
    Both Java and ACUCOBOL provide a GUI.     =

Having been written with the Web in mind, Java provides a standard = set of=20 graphical interface tools while COBOL has traditionally been oriented to = character based "green screen" applications.

Acucorp has developed logical extensions to the ANSI COBOL syntax = that allow=20 developers to remain in COBOL while providing access to the expected set = of=20 graphical interface tools. Acucorp is the only COBOL development tool = vendor=20 that has taken this approach. An interface developed in ACUCOBOL can be = easily=20 ported to run in a web browser through Acucorp's Web Browser Plug-in.=20

  • Standards
    COBOL has a track record maintaining open=20 standards

The standard for Java has been set by SUN Microsystems. The ISO has = recently=20 approved Sun's PAS application. If implemented this would help SUN reach = its=20 goal of making Java a non-proprietary open standard. However there is no = guarantee that the implementation of this standard will not be hijacked = by=20 companies that compete with SUN.

The ANSI standard for COBOL has been set since 1968. Every 6 to 10 = years the=20 standards for COBOL have been extended to meet the requirements of the = current=20 computing environment.

ACUCOBOL fully conforms to the ANSI 85 COBOL standard, and will = conform to=20 the ANSI 2000 COBOL standard when that standard is accepted. =

  • Applets / Web Based Computing
    Both ACUCOBOL and Java = provide for=20 distributing Applets over the Web.

Java was designed to take advantage of the Web by allowing users to = download=20 applications that would then run in the browser. While a traditional = approach to=20 compiling COBOL would have made achieving this functionality in COBOL = difficult,=20 Acucorp's unique approach allowed us to provide the same capabilities as = Java=20 with very little modification to our tools. Acucorp's Web Browser = Plug-in allows=20 users to download COBOL applications over the Web and run them as = applets within=20 the Browser window.

  • Accuracy
    COBOL provides accurate computation on all = platforms,=20 Java does not.

COBOL defines the accuracy required during a calculation by using = data types=20 like COMPUTATIONAL-3. This guarantees that the same code and data will = produce=20 the same results on different systems.

While storage requirements for float and double are defined by Java,=20 precision during calculation is not. This means that a Java program that = uses=20 floating point arithmetic can produce different answers on different = systems.=20

Even though it is too early to say whether Java has what it takes to = maintain=20 it's current position as the hot new technology, COBOL has shown it's = ability to=20 meet the requirements imposed by the demands of the business world. = While there=20 is no one language standard that will fit every operating requirement, = the=20 combination of proven technology, track record and incorporation of new=20 technology qualifies ACUCOBOL to be a prime solution for companies that = need=20 portability, graphical interfaces, and Web deployment of applications = while=20 maintaining the quality and reliability offered by existing enterprise = class=20 code.

ACUCOBOL®-GT Version 3.2

San Diego, CA (September 18, 1997) -- Acucobol, Inc., a premier = provider of=20 open systems COBOL development products and services, announces the = release of=20 ACUCOBOL®-GT Version 3.2, Acucobol’s proven, portable, and = year 2000=20 compliant development system. ACUCOBOL-GT provides a natural method for = COBOL=20 programmers to develop graphical user interfaces and client/server = capabilities=20 for their COBOL programs. It is the only computer language in the world = with=20 graphical syntax directly built in.

ACUCOBOL-GT Version 3.2 allows developers to build full-featured GUIs = by=20 simply adding extensions to ANSI-85 COBOL code. Features include = multithreading,=20 modeless windows, a dual file system, a full set of graphical controls, = and the=20 ability to execute GUI programs in a non-GUI environment. ACUCOBOL-GT = offers=20 maximum object code portability, running on over 600 platforms including = Windows=20 NT and UNIX without recompilation.

"Acucobol is committed to the unique philosophy that all modern = IS=20 requirements can be efficiently achieved without leaving COBOL," = says Dr.=20 Pamela Coker, CEO and President for Acucobol. "Acucobol does not = rely on=20 external C routines and other hooks to Visual Basic or Delphi because we = have=20 full confidence in COBOL’s ability to provide full-featured GUI,=20 client/server, and connections to relational database engines. Acucobol = is in=20 the business of helping COBOL programmers leverage their tried and true=20 applications as well as their own skills. We are not interested in = introducing=20 Visual Basic or Delphi because we feel they are simply not = necessary."

ACUCOBOL-GT does not require any changes to the program logic to add = a=20 graphical user interface. COBOL programmers can leverage their expertise = to=20 update applications with a graphical front end without reengineering. = Because=20 the entire program remains in COBOL, it is possible to have a = combination of=20 character-based and graphical interface screens in the same application. = ACUCOBOL-GT allows you to run your applications unchanged in a = character-based=20 environment.

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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BDAA91.937D8AA0-- From rem-conf Thu Jul 09 16:21:30 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jul 09 16:21:29 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yuPm2-00051E-00; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:06:46 -0700 Received: from george-2.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov) [131.243.2.12] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yuPm1-000514-00; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:06:45 -0700 Received: (from deba@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.8.8/LBL-ITG) id QAA15175; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:06:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Deb Agarwal (ITG staff) Message-Id: <199807092306.QAA15175@george.lbl.gov> Subject: Remote Camera Control Software Release Announcement To: rem-conf@es.net (remote conferencing), mbone@isi.edu (multicast backbone) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mperry@george.lbl.gov (Marcia Perry (ITG staff)) Reply-To: DAAgarwal@lbl.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Announcing the release of: Remote Camera Control Software ------------------------------ We have developed two new videoconferencing tools, devserv, and camclnt. These tools allow remote control of a serial controllable camera system. The devserv program is run on the machine with the serial (RS-232) connections to the camera system and camclnt is the user interface that can be run anywhere to control the camera system over the Internet. By running these tools together, users can control the video devices of a videoconference. The devserv program can currently drive the Sony EVI-D30 and Canon VC-C3 cameras and the Panasonic WJ-MX50 Digital A/V Mixer. Devserv listens on a UDP connection for ASCII text command strings that request camera motion or video switcher actions. Any program which sends commands that conform to the Remote Camera Command Language (available from http://www-itg.lbl.gov/mbone/devserv/Remcam.txt) will be able to control the camera system. Devserv transmits status messages using IP Multicast. The camclnt program provides a graphical user interface for making requests to control the cameras and a video switcher being run by devserv. These requests are sent using the Remote Camera Command Language to the device server, which in turn drives the devices. A user watching video (with a tool such as vic) may request to pan, tilt, or zoom of any of the cameras, select the camera to view, or request a picture-in-picture (selecting a camera and requesting picture-in-picture only work if you have a video switcher). The devserv program was written in C++ and has been tested on Solaris, SGI, and freeBSD (windows soon to come). The camclnt program was written in Java 1.1 and should run on any platform. Documentation, precompiled binaries and source for both programs are available from http://www-itg.lbl.gov/mbone/devserv/ Please let us know if you have any problems using the software or suggestions for its improvement. Thanks, Deb Agarwal (DAAgarwal@lbl.gov) and Marcia Perry (MPerry@lbl.gov) Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory From rem-conf Wed Jul 15 12:41:22 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 15 12:41:21 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ywX9X-0007kf-00; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:23:47 -0700 Received: from austin.cs.unc.edu [152.2.128.87] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0ywX9V-0007kT-00; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:23:45 -0700 Received: from buzzard.cs.unc.edu (dirtest@buzzard.cs.unc.edu [152.2.129.17]) by austin.cs.unc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07662 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dirtest@localhost) by buzzard.cs.unc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13520 for rem-conf@es.net; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Dirt Test Account Message-Id: <199807151923.PAA13520@buzzard.cs.unc.edu> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: CFP: ACM/SPIE Multimedia Computing & Networking '99 X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list =========================================================================== Multimedia Computing and Networking 1999 (MMCN99) January 25-27, 1999 San Jose, California Sponsored by SPIE, IS&T, and ACM SIG Multimedia =========================================================================== Conference Chairs: Kevin Jeffay, University of North Carolina Dilip Kandlur, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Timothy Roscoe, Persimmon Inc. Program Committee: Peter Beadle, University of Wollongong Andrew Campbell, Columbia University Shih-Fu Chang, Columbia University Ming-Syan Chen, National Taiwan University Wu-Chi Feng, Ohio State University Martin Freeman, Philips Research J.J. Garcia-Luna-Aceves, U.C. Santa Cruz Pawan Goyal, AT&T Research Anoop Gupta, Stanford University Mark Hayter, DEC SRC Sugih Jamin, University of Michigan at Ann Arbor Paul Jardetzky, Aloha Networks Ian Leslie, University of Cambridge Klara Nahrstedt U.I. Urbana-Champaign Guru Parulkar, Washington University Raj Rajkumar, Carnegie-Mellon University Jennifer Rexford, AT&T Research Lawrence Rowe, U.C. Berkeley Debanjan Saha, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Brian Smith, Cornell University Cormac Sreenan, AT&T Research Harrick Vin, University of Texas at Austin Michael Vernick, Lucent Bell Laboratories Jonathan Walpole, Oregon Graduate Institute Marc Willebeek-Lemair, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Raj Yavatkar, Intel Corporation Hui Zhang, Carnegie Mellon University Advances in computer and networking technologies have fueled the rapid growth of research and development in multimedia computing and high-speed networking. As emerging multimedia technologies set higher performance levels at competitive costs, they are starting to enable and proliferate multimedia solutions in a spectrum of commercial and laboratory projects. The objective of this conference is to bring together researchers, developers, and practitioners working in all facets of multimedia computing and networking. The conference will serve as a forum for the dissemination of state-of-the-art research, development, and implementations of multimedia systems, technologies, and applications. Presenters will be encouraged to make multimedia presentations and demonstrate their solutions. Papers are solicited in all areas of multimedia, including, but not limited to: * Multimedia Computing Systems: - set-top technologies and operating systems - network computers and multimedia - hardware support and hardware accelerators - multimedia operating system services - real-time operating system services - video-on-demand servers and services * Multimedia Networking: - active networks - quality-of-service control and scheduling algorithms - synchronization mechanisms - mobile network architectures - wireless networks - access technologies and community networking - network and transport protocols - multimedia over heterogeneous networks * Multimedia and the Internet: - web servers and web-based services - internet appliances - push technologies - wide area caching architectures - data streaming and delivery mechanisms - compression - handling heterogeneous media formats * Measurement and modelling: - performance measurement of multimedia systems - statistical modelling of server traffic and server software - multimedia system simulations * Applications areas: - multimedia search engines and databases - entertainment and games - adaptive applications - synthetic animation - distributed virtual reality * User Interfaces and Authoring Systems: - media and user interaction - intelligent information access - interactive navigation schemes - multimedia authoring languages - authoring metaphors and editing techniques IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR AUTHORS: --------------------------------- Please submit full papers for review. The submissions should not exceed 15 single-spaced pages including figures, tables, and references, using a typeface no smaller than 10 points. To expedite the reviewing process, please submit the paper electronically (in PDF or postscript format, through e-mail as a MIME attachment) to kandlur@watson.ibm.com. Additionally, please send 1 hard copy of your paper to: Dr. Dilip Kandlur H3-D30 I.B.M. Thomas J. Watson Research Center Hawthorne, NY 10532 Phone : (914) 784-7722 E-mail : kandlur@watson.ibm.com Please also submit electronically (in plain text format) a cover page to kandlur@watson.ibm.com. Each cover page should contain: 1. Title of paper 2. Author names and affiliations 3. Name and address (both postal and electronic) of contact author 4. Abstract (500 words) 5. Keywords 6. Submission area (from the list of relevant areas in the call for papers) Each paper will be reviewed by the members of the program committee. Authors of accepted papers will be asked to submit a camera-ready manuscript that will appear in the conference proceedings. Important Dates: ---------------- Electronic submission deadline (abstract): July 13, 1998 Electronic submission deadline (full paper): July 20, 1998 Deadline for receiving a hardcopy: July 20, 1998 Notification of acceptance: September 8, 1998 Camera-ready manuscripts due: October 19, 1998 The call for papers as well as the deadline information can also be obtained from http://www.cs.unc.edu/~jeffay/meetings/mmcn99/ ==================================================================== From rem-conf Fri Jul 17 18:19:14 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 17 18:19:13 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yxLQI-0002Uc-00; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:04:26 -0700 Received: from george-2.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov) [131.243.2.12] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yxLQH-0002US-00; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:04:25 -0700 Received: (from deba@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.8.8/LBL-ITG) id SAA04609; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:04:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Deb Agarwal (ITG staff) Message-Id: <199807180104.SAA04609@george.lbl.gov> Subject: Updated Remote Camera Server (+ bug fix) To: rem-conf@es.net, mbone@isi.edu, CPMcParland@lbl.gov (Chuck McParland), olson@mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson), jd_myers@pnl.gov (Jim Myers), mchoward@lbl.gov (Moira Howard-Jeweler), toonen@mcs.anl.gov (Brian R. Toonen) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mperry@george.lbl.gov (Marcia Perry (ITG staff)) Reply-To: DAAgarwal@lbl.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Hi all, We discovered a minor bug in our released version of the Remote Camera Control software and while we were at it we thought we'd throw in the ability to control the Canon VC-C1 camera. The new code is available from http://www-itg.lbl.gov/mbone/devserv/ Please feel free to send us any comments or suggestions. Thanks, Deb Agarwal & Marcia Perry (DAAgarwal@lbl.gov and MPerry@lbl.gov) From rem-conf Mon Jul 20 09:23:09 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jul 20 09:23:07 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyIT6-0007QU-00; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:07:16 -0700 Received: from laposte.bsf.alcatel.fr (bsf.alcatel.fr) [193.104.128.7] (root) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyIT5-0007QG-00; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:07:15 -0700 Received: from cabsimp1 (cabsimp1.col.bsf.alcatel.fr [155.132.46.160]) by bsf.alcatel.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05404 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:11:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cabs40.clb by cabsimp1 (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.1) id SAA10157; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:05:21 +0200 Received: from c5s144.clb by cabs40.clb (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA13390; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:04:58 +0200 Received: by c5s144.clb (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02564; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:08:16 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:08:16 +0200 From: massin@col.bsf.alcatel.fr (Raphael Massin) Message-Id: <9807201608.AA02564@c5s144.clb> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: RTP marker bit X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Hello all, I am currently looking at RTP and it companion profile and have a little question about the marker bit M in the RTP header. Indeed, for Audio payload its use is to distinguish the first packet after a silence period but as RTP is used over UDP, the packet (numbered n) with the M bit may be received after the (n+1)th packet. In that case, the M bit seems to be useless, or maybe i am wrong about that ? If i am wrong, how can i use it (in the secific case described above) ? Best regards, Raphael MASSIN Alcatel Business Systems 146 Bd de Valmy 92707 Colombes Cedex - France From rem-conf Mon Jul 20 09:57:56 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jul 20 09:57:55 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyJBy-0000nJ-00; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:53:38 -0700 Received: from cs.columbia.edu [128.59.16.20] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyJBx-0000n8-00; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:53:37 -0700 Received: from erlang.cs.columbia.edu (erlang.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.19.141]) by cs.columbia.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27946; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by erlang.cs.columbia.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02123; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: hgs@cs.columbia.edu Message-ID: <35B3760E.D7D1ED62@cs.columbia.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:53:34 -0400 From: Henning Schulzrinne Organization: Columbia University, Dept. of Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raphael Massin CC: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: RTP marker bit References: <9807201608.AA02564@c5s144.clb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Raphael Massin wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am currently looking at RTP and it companion profile and have a little > question about the marker bit M in the RTP header. > Indeed, for Audio payload its use is to distinguish the first packet after a > silence period but as RTP is used over UDP, the packet (numbered n) with the > M bit may be received after the (n+1)th packet. In that case, the M bit seems > to be useless, or maybe i am wrong about that ? If i am wrong, how can i use > it (in the secific case described above) ? The marker bit is best considered a hint. If you need to know precisely whether a packet is part of a new talkspurt or not, you need to compare the increments in timestamp and sequence number. In the case you describe, the reaction depends a bit on your delay: if your playout delay is longer than the reordering interval (very likely), you simply do whatever you were planning to do on receipt of an M bit when the second packet arrives. > > Best regards, > > Raphael MASSIN > Alcatel Business Systems > 146 Bd de Valmy > 92707 Colombes Cedex - France -- Henning Schulzrinne schulzrinne@cs.columbia.edu Dept. of Comp. Sci. ph +1 212 939-7042 Columbia University fax +1 212 666-0140 New York, NY 10027 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~hgs From rem-conf Mon Jul 20 11:12:25 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Mon Jul 20 11:12:23 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyK8g-00025w-00; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:54:18 -0700 Received: from hydra.precept.com [204.162.119.8] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyK8e-00025d-00; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:54:16 -0700 Received: from oak.precept.com (oak.precept.com [204.162.116.21]) by hydra.precept.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA20683; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:52:59 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: Stephen Casner To: Raphael Massin cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: RTP marker bit In-Reply-To: <9807201608.AA02564@c5s144.clb> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: casner@big-bear.precept.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list > Indeed, for Audio payload its use is to distinguish the first packet after a > silence period but as RTP is used over UDP, the packet (numbered n) with the > M bit may be received after the (n+1)th packet. In that case, the M bit seems > to be useless, or maybe i am wrong about that ? If i am wrong, how can i use > it (in the secific case described above) ? It would normally be the case that your receiver will have some buffering to accommodate jitter in the delivery of packets, including mis-ordering. If packet n arrives before receiver decides it must play out packet n+1 (that decision depends only on the timestamp), then the receiver can re-order the packets in the buffer. If the nominal playout time for packet n has already passed, then it is likely that the receiver would want to adapt the playout time to add more delay. On the other hand, if the playout time for packet n+1 comes before packet n arrives, then the receiver may conclude that packet n is lost and decide to go ahead and play packet n+1 without any playout time adjustment. If packet n subsequently arrives, it would be discarded and its M bit ignored. But that just means you've missed an opportunity to make an adjustment on this particular talkspurt. Another opportunity will come at the start of the next talkspurt. In the worst case, if the input buffer is completely empty and the next packet that arrives is late for its playout time, then the receiver would usually want to make a playout time adjustment immediately, regardless of the M bit. -- Steve From rem-conf Tue Jul 21 02:06:24 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jul 21 02:06:23 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyYF0-0004dJ-00; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 01:57:46 -0700 Received: from laposte.bsf.alcatel.fr (bsf.alcatel.fr) [193.104.128.7] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyYEw-0004ac-00; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 01:57:45 -0700 Received: from cabsimp1 (cabsimp1.col.bsf.alcatel.fr [155.132.46.160]) by bsf.alcatel.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08140; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:59:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cabs40.clb by cabsimp1 (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.1) id KAA28017; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:47:57 +0200 Received: from c5s144.clb by cabs40.clb (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA02498; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:40:40 +0200 Received: by c5s144.clb (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03195; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:44:01 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:44:01 +0200 From: massin@col.bsf.alcatel.fr (Raphael Massin) Message-Id: <9807210844.AA03195@c5s144.clb> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: RTP marker bit Cc: schulzrinne@cs.columbia.edu, casner@cisco.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list M. Schulzrinne wrote: > if your playout > delay is longer than the reordering interval (very likely), you simply > do whatever you were planning to do on receipt of an M bit when the > second packet arrives In fact, i do not see the difference between reception of voice and silence. Indeed, the estimate of interarrival jitter is still valid between a silence packet and a following voice packet. So how can i use the information contained in the M bit ? For now, i plan to consider a packet with the M bit as any other packet. M. Casner wrote: > It would normally be the case that your receiver will have some > buffering to accommodate jitter in the delivery of packets, including > mis-ordering. If packet n arrives before receiver decides it must > play out packet n+1 (that decision depends only on the timestamp), > then the receiver can re-order the packets in the buffer. If the > nominal playout time for packet n has already passed, then it is > likely that the receiver would want to adapt the playout time to add > more delay. > > On the other hand, if the playout time for packet n+1 comes before > packet n arrives, then the receiver may conclude that packet n is lost > and decide to go ahead and play packet n+1 without any playout time > adjustment. If packet n subsequently arrives, it would be discarded > and its M bit ignored. But that just means you've missed an > opportunity to make an adjustment on this particular talkspurt. > Another opportunity will come at the start of the next talkspurt. Same question: As playout time is adapted continuously (after each packet arrival), why is the start of a talkspurt an opportunity ? Thank you for your help, Raphael MASSIN Alcatel Business Systems 146 Bd de Valmy 92707 Colombes Cedex - France From rem-conf Tue Jul 21 03:26:27 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jul 21 03:26:26 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyZXQ-00062z-00; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 03:20:52 -0700 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk [128.16.5.31] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyZXP-00062p-00; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 03:20:51 -0700 Received: from eucharisto.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:18:59 +0100 To: massin@col.bsf.alcatel.fr (Raphael Massin) cc: rem-conf@es.net, schulzrinne@cs.columbia.edu, casner@cisco.com Subject: Re: RTP marker bit In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:44:01 +0200." <9807210844.AA03195@c5s144.clb> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:18:58 +0100 Message-ID: <1548.901016338@cs.ucl.ac.uk> From: Colin Perkins X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list --> Raphael Massin writes: >M. Schulzrinne wrote: > >> if your playout >> delay is longer than the reordering interval (very likely), you simply >> do whatever you were planning to do on receipt of an M bit when the >> second packet arrives > >In fact, i do not see the difference between reception of voice and silence. Indeed, >the estimate of interarrival jitter is still valid between a silence packet and a >following voice packet. So how can i use the information contained in the M bit ? >For now, i plan to consider a packet with the M bit as any other packet. A packet with the M bit set indicates a "good" time to adjust the playout buffer, since a slightly longer/shorter inter-talkspurt gap will not be noticable. For example, if the audio clock in the receiver machine is running at a slightly different frequency to the sender they'll get out of sync and some adjustment will have to be made occasionally. Colin From rem-conf Tue Jul 21 17:07:50 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jul 21 17:07:50 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yym4y-0002ns-00; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:44:20 -0700 Received: from mercury.sun.com [192.9.25.1] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yym4x-0002nX-00; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:44:19 -0700 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (engmail1 [129.146.1.13]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id QAA09853 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:43:14 -0700 Received: from valathar.eng.sun.com (valathar.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.122.176]) by Eng.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) with SMTP id QAA05385; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:43:11 -0700 Received: from valathar by valathar.eng.sun.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA07136; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:43:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael F. Speer" Reply-To: "Michael F. Speer" Subject: RTP H261 packaetization question (rfc2032) To: rem-conf@es.net Cc: speer@Eng.Sun.COM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list I have been reading through rfc2032 and the H.261 specification. In my reading, I was unable to find out whether GOB start codes happen on a byte boundry. I know the picture start codes start on byte boundries. Thanks, Michael From rem-conf Tue Jul 21 18:14:50 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jul 21 18:14:49 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yynGe-0004Rv-00; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:00:28 -0700 Received: from amlogic178.fiasj.net (smtp.amlogic.com) [208.232.79.178] (root) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yynGc-0004Rj-00; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:00:26 -0700 Received: from amlogic.com (braves [192.9.100.1]) by smtp.amlogic.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05013; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:10:39 -0700 Received: from marlins.amlogic.com by amlogic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11171; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:01:47 PDT Received: by marlins.amlogic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13055; Tue, 21 Jul 98 17:59:27 PDT From: "Wilson C. Chung" Message-Id: <980721175927.ZM13053@marlins> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:59:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Michael F. Speer" "RTP H261 packaetization question (rfc2032)" (Jul 21, 4:43pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: "Michael F. Speer" , rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: RTP H261 packaetization question (rfc2032) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list I know in RTP H263 GSTUF should be used so that GBSC (GOB start codes) is byte-aligned. -wilson -- wilson c. chung wilson@amlogic.com amlogic inc. ph +1 408.232.3130 http://www.amlogic.com fax +1 408.970.0688 From rem-conf Wed Jul 22 06:15:27 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 22 06:15:25 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyyeL-0006MR-00; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:09:41 -0700 Received: from pif.inria.fr [138.96.24.64] (turletti) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yyyeJ-0006MH-00; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:09:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by pif.inria.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04463; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:09:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199807221309.PAA04463@pif.inria.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Michael F. Speer" Cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: RTP H261 packaetization question (rfc2032) In-reply-to: speer's message of Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:43:12 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:09:29 +0200 From: Thierry Turletti X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list > > I have been reading through rfc2032 and the H.261 specification. In my > reading, I was unable to find out whether GOB start codes happen on a byte > boundry. I know the picture start codes start on byte boundries. > Byte alignment may be achieved by proper bit stuffing by the encoder, but it is not required by the H.261 bitstream recommendation. The SBIT field in the H.261-RTP header (defined in rfc2032) is used to ignore unwanted bits in the first data octet. Cheers, Thierry From rem-conf Wed Jul 22 09:42:20 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 22 09:42:19 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yz1tI-0002dl-00; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:37:20 -0700 Received: from (alpha.telecom-co.net) [200.21.27.100] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yz1tA-0002cI-00; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:37:13 -0700 Received: by alpha.telecom-co.net; id AA20669; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:36:25 -0500 Message-Id: <35B6152A.6057183A@alpha.telecom-co.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:36:59 -0500 From: Diego Daniel Sosa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "rem-conf@es.net" , "IPMULTICAST@STARDUST.COM" Subject: PIM Dense Mode Configuration on Cisco 2500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BF710E2467E0D796E468BFB2" X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list --------------BF710E2467E0D796E468BFB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, We are testing an IP Multicast application which works quite well in a LAN environment, but when we try to send IP Multicast packets through two routers it seems they are not forwarding them. According to the documentation on Cisco Routers (these are Cisco 2500 Series Routers, the one on the left is an Access Server) there are four protocols for enabling resending of multicast packets -in MRouters- but until now, we are just using the IGMP and the PIM.: [Image] The IGMP is working Ok, cause we can see the groups added to the IP Multicast Addresses ( sh ip igmp groups ), but the forwarding and notification of addings to IPM groups between the routers seems not to be working (which is done with the PIM protocol). The PIM is sending notifications through the serial connection but: is there something else to configure for it? As you can see in the Router configuration we have set it to ip pim dense-mode. The following are the IP Addresses of the multicast laboratory and the Routers configuration, respectively. [Image] Router1#sh conf Using 766 out of 32762 bytes ! Router2#sh conf version 11.2 Using 701 out of 32762 bytes no service udp-small-servers ! no service tcp-small-servers version 10.3 ! ! hostname Router1 hostname Router2 ! ! enable secret 5 enable secret 5 ************************ ************************** enable password ****** enable password ****** ! ! no ip domain-lookup no ip domain-lookup ip multicast-routing ip multicast-routing ip dvmrp route-limit 7000 ! ! interface Ethernet0 interface Ethernet0 ip address 200.21.28.2 ip address 200.21.26.2 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0 ip pim dense-mode ip pim dense-mode ip igmp query-interval 40 ip multicast ttl-threshold 1 ip igmp access-group 1 ip igmp query-interval 40 ip multicast-threshold 1 ip igmp access-group 1 ! ! interface Serial0 interface Serial0 ip address 200.21.27.101 ip address 200.21.27.102 255.255.255.252 255.255.255.252 ip pim dense-mode ip pim dense-mode ip multicast-threshold 1 ip multicast ttl-threshold 1 ! ! interface Serial1 interface Serial1 no ip address no ip address shutdown shutdown ! ! router igrp 1 router igrp 1 network 200.21.28.0 network 200.21.26.0 network 200.21.27.0 network 200.21.27.0 ! ! ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 no ip classless 200.21.27.102 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 access-list 1 permit any 200.21.27.101 snmp-server community public RO access-list 1 permit any ! ! line con 0 line con 0 exec-timeout 0 0 line 1 8 line aux 0 line aux 0 line vty 0 4 line vty 0 4 password ****** password ****** login login ! ! end end Thank you all for your help and clariffications, ------------------------------------------------------- Diego Daniel Sosa Research Division - Engineer Technical Institute of Electronics and Communications ITEC - TELECOM, COL. ------------------------------------------------------- --------------BF710E2467E0D796E468BFB2 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------FF5F8102EB868580C988A0EA" --------------FF5F8102EB868580C988A0EA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all,

We are testing an IP Multicast application which works quite well in a LAN environment, but when we try to send IP Multicast packets through two routers it seems they are not forwarding them.

According to the documentation on Cisco Routers (these are Cisco 2500 Series Routers, the one on the left is an Access Server) there are four protocols for enabling resending of multicast packets -in MRouters- but until now, we are just using the IGMP and the PIM.:

The IGMP is working Ok, cause we can see the groups added to the IP Multicast Addresses ( sh ip igmp groups ), but the forwarding and notification of addings to IPM groups between the routers seems not to be working (which is done with the PIM protocol).  The PIM is sending notifications through the serial connection but:

is there something else to configure for it?
As you can see in the Router configuration we have set it to ip pim dense-mode.
 
The following are the IP Addresses of the multicast laboratory and the Routers configuration, respectively.

 
 

Router1#sh conf 
Using 766 out of 32762 bytes 
! 
version 11.2 
no service udp-small-servers 
no service tcp-small-servers 
! 
hostname Router1 
! 
enable secret 5 ************************ 
enable password ****** 
! 
no ip domain-lookup 
ip multicast-routing 
ip dvmrp route-limit 7000 
! 
interface Ethernet0 
 ip address 200.21.26.2 255.255.255.0 
 ip pim dense-mode 
 ip multicast ttl-threshold 1 
 ip igmp query-interval 40 
 ip igmp access-group 1 
! 
interface Serial0 
 ip address 200.21.27.102 255.255.255.252 
 ip pim dense-mode 
 ip multicast ttl-threshold 1 
! 
interface Serial1 
 no ip address 
 shutdown 
! 
router igrp 1 
 network 200.21.26.0 
 network 200.21.27.0 
! 
no ip classless 
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 200.21.27.101 
access-list 1 permit any 
! 
line con 0 
line 1 8 
line aux 0 
line vty 0 4 
 password ****** 
 login 
! 
end

 Router2#sh conf
Using 701 out of 32762 bytes
!
version 10.3
!
hostname Router2
!
enable secret 5 **************************
enable password ******
!
no ip domain-lookup
ip multicast-routing
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 200.21.28.2 255.255.255.0
 ip pim dense-mode
 ip igmp query-interval 40
 ip igmp access-group 1
 ip multicast-threshold 1
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 200.21.27.101 255.255.255.252
 ip pim dense-mode
 ip multicast-threshold 1
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
router igrp 1
 network 200.21.28.0
 network 200.21.27.0
!
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 200.21.27.102
access-list 1 permit any
snmp-server community public RO
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password ******
 login
!
end

Thank you all for  your help and clariffications,

-------------------------------------------------------
Diego Daniel Sosa
Research Division - Engineer
Technical Institute of Electronics and Communications
ITEC - TELECOM, COL.
-------------------------------------------------------

 
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(8.8.7/8.7.3) id MAA09282 for rem-conf@es.net; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:18:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Freeman Message-Id: <199807221918.MAA09282@PMC.Philips.COM> To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: HOT CHIPS 10: Advance Program August 16-18, 1998 X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list H O T C H I P S 1 0 A Symposium on High-Performance Chips August 16-18, 1997 Memorial Auditorium, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA Hot Chips 10 brings together designers and architects of high-performance chips, software, and systems. Presentations focus on up-to-the-minute real developments. This symposium is the primary forum for engineers and researchers to highlight their leading-edge designs. Three full days of tutorials and technical sessions will keep you on top of the industry. ======================================== Sunday August 16 ======================================== Morning Tutorial: Intellectual Property Law as Applied to the Computer and Electronics Industries Margaret Jane Radin William Benjamin Scott & Luna M. Scott Professor of Law Stanford Law School The tutorial will outline the basics of the traditional forms of legal protection of intellectual property (patents, trademarks, copyrights and trade secrets) and describe some of the issues posed by developments in information technology and the global networked environment. We will consider how intellectual property protection is established, how it functions in practice, and what happens when intellectual property rights are infringed. We will look at not only the different principles of each form of protection, but also how their boundaries are delineated, and where those boundaries are blurred (e.g. copyright vs. patenting of software.) We will also consider how economic factors relate to the extent of intellectual property protection, and we will consider the significance of non-property (the public domain) for the comp etitive marketplace and for future invention. ======================================== Afternoon Tutorial Fast CPUs Are Good ... but Fast I/O is Better Speaker: Silicon Graphics Peripherals Team Fast microprocessors need large storage and fast I/O. This tutorial will include overviews of various I/O technologies, how they fit togehter, and where they seem to be going, including peripheral connections, disks, removables, and performance issues. 1) Overview of the various technologies, how they fit together, and where they are going. 2) Survey of peripheral connections, e.g. SCSI, FibreChannel, 1394 3) Disk technologies History, specifications, technologies, capacities, bandwidths, latencies Fixed and removables Near-term futures 4) CDROMs, DVD, etc 5) Tapes 6) Real problems or "your mileage may vary" Peak numbers vs. real numbers real case studies of extreme I/O demands ======================================== Monday August 17 9:00-9:15 Welcome, Opening remarks (General and Program Chairs) ======================================== 9:15-10:45 Session 1: High Performance Processors (part 1) John Mashey, chair The Alpha 21264 Microprocessor: Out-Of-Order Execution at 600 Mhz R. E. Kessler,Digital Equipment Corporation UltraSPARC-III: A 600 MHz 64-bit Superscalar Processor for 1000-way Scalable Systems Gary Lauterbach, Sun Microsystems, Inc. Techniques for Mitigating Memory Latency in the PA-8500 Processor David Johnson, Hewlett-Packard 10:45-11:15 Break =================================================== 11:15-12:15 Session 2: Embedded and Embeddable Processors Kazuaki Murakami, chair The M32Rx/D - A Single Chip Microcontroller With a 4MB Internal DRAM Toru Shimizu, Mitsubishi Electric Corporation Genesis microprocessor Jack Choquette, SandCraft Inc. 12:15-1:30 Lunch =================================================== 1:30-2:15 Session 3: Monica Lam, chair Keynote: Greg Papadopoulos, CTO, Sun Microsystems 2:15-2:30 Short break =================================================== 2:30-4:00 Session 4:Specialized Chips Alan Smith, chair Designing a Single Chip Chess Grandmaster While Knowing Nothing about Chess Feng-hsiung Hsu, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center An Encryption Accelerator and Coprocessor Mark Birman, Hi/fn The EMU10K1 Digital Audio Processor Tom Savel, E-mu Systems, Inc. 4:00-4:30 Break ======================================== 4:30-6:00 Session 5:High Performance Processors (part 2) Marc Tremblay, chair IBM S/390 G5 Microprocessor Timothy J. Slegel, Robert M. Averill III, Mark A. Check, Bruce C. Giamei, Barry W. Krumm, Christopher A. Krygowski, Wen H. Li, John S. Liptay, John D. MacDougall, Thomas J. McPherson, Jennifer A. Navarro, Eric M. Schwarz, Kevin Shum, and Charles F. Webb, IBM Corporation A CMOS Vector Processor with Custom Streaming Cache Greg Faanes, Cray Research AltiVec(tm) Technology: Accelerating Media Processing Across the Spectrum Keith Diefendorff*, Pradeep Dubey**, Ron Hochsprung*, Brett Olsson**, Hunter Scales*** (*Apple Computer, **IBM, ***Motorola) ======================================== 6:00-7:30 Dinner 7:30-9:00 Session 6: Panel: Can Microsoft be Stopped? John Wharton, chair; Panelists: TBA Microsoft's hold on the industry keeps growing. Are there any fronts -- business, technology, content or legal -- where the company may be vulnerable? ======================================== Tuesday August 18 ======================================== 9:00-10:30 Session 7: MPEG and Digital TV Gert Slavenburg, chair A Single-chip MPEG2 MP@ML Video Encoder with Multi-chip Configuration for a Single-board MP@HL Encoder Toshihiro Minami, Toshio Kondo, Koyo Nitta, Kazuhito Suguri, Mitsuo Ikeda, Takeshi Yoshitome, Hiroshi Watanabe, Hiroe Iwasaki, Katsuyuki Ochiai, Jiro Naganuma, Makoto Endo, Eiichi Yamagishi, Takuro Takahashi, Koichi Tadaishi, Yutaka Tashiro, Naoki Kobayashi, Tsuneo Okubo, Takeshi Ogura, Ryota Kasai, NTT TM2000: A Single-Chip DTV Media Processor from Trimedia Selliah Rathnam and Gerrit Slavenburg, Trimedia Product Group A New Chipset for DTV Compliant with ATSC Standard Hee-Bok Park, Cheol-Kyo Suh, Seung-Jong Choi, Dong-Il Han, Jin-Gyeong Kim, Dae-Hyup Ko, Jong-Seok Park, LG Electronics Inc. 10:30-11:00 Break =================================================== 11:00-12:30 Session 8: General Puropose Processors with Integrated Media Support Kunle Olukotun, chair A High Performance x86 Processor with Integrated 3D Graphics Rich Perego, Cyrix Corporation Novel Multimedia Instruction Capabilities in VLIW Media Processors J.T.J. van Eijndhoven, Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, F. W. Sijstermans, Eindhoven University of Technology SA-1500: A 300 MHz RISC CPU with Attached Media Processor Prashant P. Gandhi, Intel Corp. 12:30-2:00 Lunch =================================================== 2:00-4:00 Session 9: Graphics Accelerators Bill Dally, chair Intel i740 Graphics Accelerator Tom Piazza, Intel Corp. Blitzen: Lightning Speed 3D Geometry Accelerator Alan Krech, Hewlett-Packard Neon: A (Big) (Fast) Single-Chip 3D Graphics Accelerator Joel McCormack, Robert McNamara, Christopher Gianos, and Norman Jouppi, Digital Equipment Corporation; Larry Seiler and Ken Correll, Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratory VelaTX - Innovative 3D Architecture Coupled with Embedded DRAM Architecture Michael C. Lewis, Joseph C. Del Rio, Stellar Semiconductor, Inc. 4:00-4:30 Break =================================================== 4:30-5:30 Session 10: High Performance PC Processors Ruby Lee, chair AMD 3DNow! Technology and the K6-2 Microprocessor Stuart Oberman, Fred Weber, Norbert Juffa, Greg Favor, AMD TBA 5:30-5:40 Closing Remarks =================================================== Organizing Committee Program Committee -------------------- ----------------- Chair Program Co-Chairs Allen Baum Compaq John Wawrzynek U.C. Berkeley Vice Chair Norm Jouppi Compaq S. Diane Smith Santa Clara Univ Finance Program Committee Lily Jow Compaq Bill Dally Stanford Univ. Publicity Monica Lam Stanford Univ. Cynthia Garb GHI Ruby Lee Hewlett Packard Registration John Mashey Silicon Graphics Richard Karpinski Maqc Jack Mills Intel Publications Alan Smith U.C. Berkeley David Moberly Hewlett-Packard Kazuaki Murakami Kyushu Univ. Local Arrangements Kunle Olukotun Stanford Univ. Amr Zaky Silicon Graphics Gert Slavenburg Philips Semi. Bob Lashley Sun Microsystems Marc Tremblay Sun Microsystems Dave Gallaher SFSFC John Wharton Applications Research Alan Alcorn Interval Research At Large Bob Stewart SRE Martin Freeman Philips Slava Mach SCVCS Chair Carey Kornfeld Kdesign ----------------- Location: Hot Chips will be held in Memorial Auditorium on the campus of Stanford University, Palo Alto, California, approximately 24 miles from San Francisco airport, and 15 miles from San Jose airport. Driving Directions: From San Francisco, take highway 101 south From San Jose, take highway 101 north Take the Embarcadero exit west and go 3 miles until you enter the Stanford campus. Signs will then point you to conference parking. Maps of Stanford campus and surrounding areas are available at http://www.stanford.edu/home/visitors/maps.html Mass transit information is available at http://www.transitinfo.org/ Weather: Mid-August is typically in the 80s(F) and sunny during the day. Nights are much cooler; a light jacket or sweater is appropriate. Housing: Hotel information for the area is available at: http://soi.stanford.edu/general/meetings/hotel.html or http://www.stanford.edu/dept/hds/chs/general/hotel.html or http://www-csli.stanford.edu/~clrf/hotel.html The closest hotel is the Palo Alto Holiday Inn. Reservations well in advance are advised. On-campus housing is also available in student residences, and can be arranged by contacting the Stanford Conference Office at (650) 725-1429 or tcup@leland.stanford.edu. Rates are $45.00 per night for single occupancy and $32.00 per night per person for shared occupancy. Conference registration includes: * attendance * one copy of notes * two luncheons * coffee breaks * Sunday afternoon wine and cheese reception * Monday evening reception * parking Tutorial registration includes: * attendance for tutorials * one copy of notes * luncheon * coffee breaks * Sunday afternoon wine and cheese reception * parking Registration can be done through our secure web server at http://hot.org. Web registration is preferred, but the form below can also be mailed to: 12340 Indian Trail Rd., Los Gatos, CA 95033-8241 or faxed to (408) 867-5831. First Name ______________________ Last Name_________________________________ Title____________________________ Organization______________________________ Address_____________________________________________________________________ Address 2___________________________________________________________________ City_______________________ State _____ Zip Code_________ Country___________ Area Code / Phone Number ___ / ___ - _____ Fax Phone Number ___/___-_______ E-mail Address ____________________ Food Preference: Vegetarian __Non-vegetarian __ Membership : IEEE/CS __ ACM __ Non-member __ Student __ Member Number_________________ Payement Method : Check ____ Visa ____ MasterCard ____ Total Amount Paid $_______ check to be drawn in US $ payable to : Hot Chips Credit Card #___________________________ Expiration Date : (Month) ___ / (Year) ___ Cardholder Name _____________________ Signature ____________________________ If I cancel my registration after 8/6/1998, I agree to pay the entire bill. Date Sent ____ / ____ / ____ Fees: Please CIRCLE Approriate Fees ----------------------------------+-----------------------------+ Advanced Reg: before July 24th | Late / On-site Registration | ----------------------------------+-----------------------------+ Conf: HC HI HC+HI HC HI HC+HI | ----------------------------------+-----------------------------+ Member 180 250 390 | 300 300 540 | NonMemb 240 300 485 | 360 375 665 | Student 60 100 145 | 80 125 185 | ----------------------------------+-----------------------------+ Hot Chips Tutorials | ----------------------------------+-----------------------------+ 40 | 80 | ----------------------------------+-----------------------------+ Hot Interconnects Tutorials | morn aft both morn aft both | ----------------------------------+-----------------------------+ morn aft both | morn aft both | Member 100 200 200 | 125 250 250 | NonMemb 125 250 250 | 150 300 300 | Stud. 25 50 50 | 35 70 70 | ----------------------------------+------------------------------ All funds are US$ We accept Visa or Mastercard, or checks if registering by mail. Registrants will be sent a confirmation by email. Refunds due to cancellations will only be made prior to August 6, and will incur a service charge of $25. Students must supply a copy of their school's ID card. For answers to questions about registration, contact us by email at registration@hoti.org or registration@hotchips.org. For other information, contact us by email at info@hoti.org or info@hotchips.org. From rem-conf Fri Jul 24 00:53:04 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 24 00:53:02 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzcRs-0007Ia-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:39:28 -0700 Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.4.15] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzcRq-0007IQ-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:39:26 -0700 Received: from ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE (actually ftsu07.ee.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:15:17 +0200 Received: from ftsu31 by ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE (8.8.6/ZRZ-Gen-8) with SMTP id FAA11031 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:14:48 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: momuc98@ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE Message-ID: <35B7FC27.6985@ft.ee.tu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:14:47 +0200 From: momuc98 Organization: Technical University of Berlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: miint@ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE Subject: MoMuC'98: Call for participation Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B2821BA4BCE" X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list --------------B2821BA4BCE Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Colleague, Enclosed is Call-for-Participation for MoMuC'98. Please feel free to distribute it to interested colleagues and post it as appropriate. Also, please accept our sincere apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP. Best regards Adam Wolisz --------------B2821BA4BCE Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="cfpart-2.txt" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cfpart-2.txt" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE id FAA11032 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ MoMuC '98 _/ _/ FIFTH INTERNATIONAL WORKSHOP ON _/ _/ MOBILE MULTIMEDIA COMMUNICATION _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ CALL FOR PARTICIPATION Berlin, Germany October 12-14, 1998 (immediately after ICUPC`98, Florence, Italy) =09 WWW: http://momuc98.ee.tu-berlin.de=20 email: momuc98@ee.tu-berlin.de Technical Co-Sponsored by IEEE Communication Society. Technical Co-Sponsored by ITG, Germany. With support from the European's Commission ACTS Programme. WORKSHOP OBJECTIVE=20 This is the fifth in a series of international work- shops - Tokyo in 1994, Bristol in 1995, Princeton in=20 1996 and Seoul in 1997 - aimed at stimulating tech- nical exchanges in the emerging and strategically=20 important field of Mobile Multimedia Communica- tions. MoMuC'98 is intended to provide a timely=20 forum for exploratory research contributions, and to=20 promote cross-disciplinary technical interactions in=20 an informal setting. The scope of the workshop=20 includes broadband wireless networking for data=20 and multimedia, mobile multimedia system & appli- cations together with associated mobile computing=20 terminals, video processing and software.=20 The workshop goal is to bring together researchers,=20 practitioners and potential users of this emerging=20 technology. The workshop targets at experts in mul- timedia systems, mobility issues in network proto- cols and communication systems. The impact of the=20 workshop is to provide an effective forum for origi- nal and fundamental advances in Mobile Multime- dia Systems and to foster communication among=20 researchers and practitioners working in a wide vari- ety of scientific areas with a common interest in=20 mobile multimedia communication. Co-located with MoMuC `98, the First Workshop on Wireless=20 Broadband Testbeds, DEMO'98, will be held on October 15, 1998. VENUE MoMuC `98 will be held in Berlin, the city which=20 after 40 years of splitting is now the live symbol of=20 the German reunification, and on its way to the grow=20 into the role of the German capital. It is currently=20 one of the largest construction sites worldwide. On=20 the other hand it is also a city of industry, the place=20 where the first tram worldwide was operating, where glo- bal companies like Siemens started off and still have=20 a strong position. Nowadays Berlin is changing its=20 economic role away from mainly industrial to=20 become a service-oriented gateway to the new=20 democracies in Eastern Europe. Located between=20 numerous lakes it has more bridges than Venice,=20 Italy within its city limits. It is a vibrant cultural=20 metropolis, with 3 Opera Houses, several Musicals=20 Houses and hundreds of theaters. It offers a very=20 exciting and surprising nightlife scene with countless=20 restaurants, bars, clubs and galleries.=20 TECHNICAL PROGRAM=20 The 3-day technical program will primarily consist=20 of contributed research papers. In addition, there=20 will be a few distinguished invited speakers and=20 expert panel sessions providing a broad perspective=20 in each technical area. The conference language is=20 english. TECHNICAL TOPICS COVERED INCLUDE=20 (but are not limited to):=20 WIRELESS NETWORKS FOR MULTIMEDIA COMMUNICATION - broadband wireless networks - wireless ATM - voice/data in CDMA & TDMA systems=20 - high-speed wireless modems & radio techniques - medium access/data link control and handoff protocols - quality-of-service (QoS) management in wireless networks - wireless network signaling, control & mobility management - mobile internet protocol=20 - wireless network management & services control MOBILE MULTIMEDIA TERMINAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE - multimedia terminal hardware - signal processing techniques - low power VLSI for mobile computing - video compression, including MPEG-4 - network API and transport protocols - software technologies for personal multimedia MOBILE MULTIMEDIA SYSTEMS - mobile computing=20 - optimization of bandwidth use - powers saving - mobility support in ATM and INTERNET - QoS and mobility - adaptive applications - system architectures for mobile multimedia=20 - innovative prototypes, systems & products=20 - multimedia satellite systems=20 - personal multimedia applications=20 WORKSHOP CHAIR Adam Wolisz (Technical University of Berlin) STEERING COMMITTEE: =20 D. Goodman (Rutgers University) D. Raychaudhuri (NEC, Princeton) =20 H. Tominaga (Waseda University Tokyo)=20 TECHNICAL PROGRAMM COMMITTEE: Y. Akaiwa, Kyushuu University V. Bahl, Microsoft Research E. Bonek, TU Wien A. Campbell, Columbia University K. David, T-Mobil N. Davies, Lancaster University G. Fettweis, TU Dresden Z. Haas, Cornell University T. Hattori, Sophia University Tokyo R. Jain, UC Los Angeles M. Karol, Lucent Technologies R. Kr=E4mer, Phillips Research P. K=FChn, Universit=E4t Stuttgart K. S. Kwak, Inha University Seoul G. Maguire, KTH Stockholm H. Mitts, Nokia P. Noll, TU Berlin S. Pink, Lulea University G. Polyzos, UC San Diego K. Sabnani, Bell Labs R. Sch=E4fer, HHI Berlin O. Spaniol, RWTH Aachen S. Thome, ENST C.-K. Toh, Hughes Research Labs B. Walke, RWTH Aachen R. Popescu-Zeletin, GMD Fokus IMPORTANT DATES: Early Registration Deadline: August 28, 1998 Hotel Reservation August 28, 1998 Venue: October 12-14, 1998 CALL FOR PARTICIPATION: After the very strong echo to our Call-for-Papers (over 130 submissions),= =20 we invite all interested members of the community to participate=20 to the workshop, which provides a discussion forum for researchers=20 not only from the research and education community but also from=20 industrial and commercial organizations.=20 The Program is designed to develop extensive discussions and=20 continuing collaboration on significant issues on=20 the state of the art and future research needs.=20 To encourage vigorous interaction and exchange of ideas,=20 the workshop will be kept small (max. 200 attendes),=20 General attendance is not limited to those submitted their work.=20 We encourage anyone involved in mobile multimedia communications=20 to share the cross-disciplinary technical interactions.=20 Participation forms and hotel registration can be found in the workshop's web-pages. FOR MORE INFORMATION=20 visit our WWW site at:=20 http://momuc98.ee.tu-berlin.de=20 or mail your question to:=20 momuc98@ee.tu-berlin.de ------------------------------------------------- Telecommunication Networks Group (TKN) at the Department of Electrical Engineering=20 of Technical University Berlin: http://www-tkn.ee.tu-berlin.de --------------B2821BA4BCE-- From rem-conf Fri Jul 24 01:06:34 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 24 01:06:33 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzclh-00000x-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:59:57 -0700 Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.4.15] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzclf-00000n-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:59:55 -0700 Received: from ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE (actually ftsu07.ee.TU-Berlin.DE) by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:26:27 +0200 Received: from ftsu31 by ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE (8.8.6/ZRZ-Gen-8) with SMTP id FAA11098 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:26:11 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: momuc98@ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE Message-ID: <35B7FED2.74F5@ft.ee.tu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:26:10 +0200 From: momuc98 Organization: Technical University of Berlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: miint@ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE Subject: MoMuC'98: Call for participation Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------57ED269D379B" X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list --------------57ED269D379B Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Colleague, Enclosed is Call-for-Participation for MoMuC'98. Please feel free to distribute it to interested colleagues and post it as appropriate. Also, please accept our sincere apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP. Best regards MoMuC'98 --------------57ED269D379B Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="cfpart-2.txt" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cfpart-2.txt" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ft.ee.TU-Berlin.DE id FAA11099 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ MoMuC '98 _/ _/ FIFTH INTERNATIONAL WORKSHOP ON _/ _/ MOBILE MULTIMEDIA COMMUNICATION _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ CALL FOR PARTICIPATION Berlin, Germany October 12-14, 1998 (immediately after ICUPC`98, Florence, Italy) =09 WWW: http://momuc98.ee.tu-berlin.de=20 email: momuc98@ee.tu-berlin.de Technical Co-Sponsored by IEEE Communication Society. Technical Co-Sponsored by ITG, Germany. With support from the European's Commission ACTS Programme. WORKSHOP OBJECTIVE=20 This is the fifth in a series of international work- shops - Tokyo in 1994, Bristol in 1995, Princeton in=20 1996 and Seoul in 1997 - aimed at stimulating tech- nical exchanges in the emerging and strategically=20 important field of Mobile Multimedia Communica- tions. MoMuC'98 is intended to provide a timely=20 forum for exploratory research contributions, and to=20 promote cross-disciplinary technical interactions in=20 an informal setting. The scope of the workshop=20 includes broadband wireless networking for data=20 and multimedia, mobile multimedia system & appli- cations together with associated mobile computing=20 terminals, video processing and software.=20 The workshop goal is to bring together researchers,=20 practitioners and potential users of this emerging=20 technology. The workshop targets at experts in mul- timedia systems, mobility issues in network proto- cols and communication systems. The impact of the=20 workshop is to provide an effective forum for origi- nal and fundamental advances in Mobile Multime- dia Systems and to foster communication among=20 researchers and practitioners working in a wide vari- ety of scientific areas with a common interest in=20 mobile multimedia communication. Co-located with MoMuC `98, the First Workshop on Wireless=20 Broadband Testbeds, DEMO'98, will be held on October 15, 1998. VENUE MoMuC `98 will be held in Berlin, the city which=20 after 40 years of splitting is now the live symbol of=20 the German reunification, and on its way to the grow=20 into the role of the German capital. It is currently=20 one of the largest construction sites worldwide. On=20 the other hand it is also a city of industry, the place=20 where the first tram worldwide was operating, where glo- bal companies like Siemens started off and still have=20 a strong position. Nowadays Berlin is changing its=20 economic role away from mainly industrial to=20 become a service-oriented gateway to the new=20 democracies in Eastern Europe. Located between=20 numerous lakes it has more bridges than Venice,=20 Italy within its city limits. It is a vibrant cultural=20 metropolis, with 3 Opera Houses, several Musicals=20 Houses and hundreds of theaters. It offers a very=20 exciting and surprising nightlife scene with countless=20 restaurants, bars, clubs and galleries.=20 TECHNICAL PROGRAM=20 The 3-day technical program will primarily consist=20 of contributed research papers. In addition, there=20 will be a few distinguished invited speakers and=20 expert panel sessions providing a broad perspective=20 in each technical area. The conference language is=20 english. TECHNICAL TOPICS COVERED INCLUDE=20 (but are not limited to):=20 WIRELESS NETWORKS FOR MULTIMEDIA COMMUNICATION - broadband wireless networks - wireless ATM - voice/data in CDMA & TDMA systems=20 - high-speed wireless modems & radio techniques - medium access/data link control and handoff protocols - quality-of-service (QoS) management in wireless networks - wireless network signaling, control & mobility management - mobile internet protocol=20 - wireless network management & services control MOBILE MULTIMEDIA TERMINAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE - multimedia terminal hardware - signal processing techniques - low power VLSI for mobile computing - video compression, including MPEG-4 - network API and transport protocols - software technologies for personal multimedia MOBILE MULTIMEDIA SYSTEMS - mobile computing=20 - optimization of bandwidth use - powers saving - mobility support in ATM and INTERNET - QoS and mobility - adaptive applications - system architectures for mobile multimedia=20 - innovative prototypes, systems & products=20 - multimedia satellite systems=20 - personal multimedia applications=20 WORKSHOP CHAIR Adam Wolisz (Technical University of Berlin) STEERING COMMITTEE: =20 D. Goodman (Rutgers University) D. Raychaudhuri (NEC, Princeton) =20 H. Tominaga (Waseda University Tokyo)=20 TECHNICAL PROGRAMM COMMITTEE: Y. Akaiwa, Kyushuu University V. Bahl, Microsoft Research E. Bonek, TU Wien A. Campbell, Columbia University K. David, T-Mobil N. Davies, Lancaster University G. Fettweis, TU Dresden Z. Haas, Cornell University T. Hattori, Sophia University Tokyo R. Jain, UC Los Angeles M. Karol, Lucent Technologies R. Kr=E4mer, Phillips Research P. K=FChn, Universit=E4t Stuttgart K. S. Kwak, Inha University Seoul G. Maguire, KTH Stockholm H. Mitts, Nokia P. Noll, TU Berlin S. Pink, Lulea University G. Polyzos, UC San Diego K. Sabnani, Bell Labs R. Sch=E4fer, HHI Berlin O. Spaniol, RWTH Aachen S. Thome, ENST C.-K. Toh, Hughes Research Labs B. Walke, RWTH Aachen R. Popescu-Zeletin, GMD Fokus IMPORTANT DATES: Early Registration Deadline: August 28, 1998 Hotel Reservation August 28, 1998 Venue: October 12-14, 1998 CALL FOR PARTICIPATION: After the very strong echo to our Call-for-Papers (over 130 submissions),= =20 we invite all interested members of the community to participate=20 to the workshop, which provides a discussion forum for researchers=20 not only from the research and education community but also from=20 industrial and commercial organizations.=20 The Program is designed to develop extensive discussions and=20 continuing collaboration on significant issues on=20 the state of the art and future research needs.=20 To encourage vigorous interaction and exchange of ideas,=20 the workshop will be kept small (max. 200 attendes),=20 General attendance is not limited to those submitted their work.=20 We encourage anyone involved in mobile multimedia communications=20 to share the cross-disciplinary technical interactions.=20 Participation forms and hotel registration can be found in the workshop's web-pages. FOR MORE INFORMATION=20 visit our WWW site at:=20 http://momuc98.ee.tu-berlin.de=20 or mail your question to:=20 momuc98@ee.tu-berlin.de ------------------------------------------------- Telecommunication Networks Group (TKN) at the Department of Electrical Engineering=20 of Technical University Berlin: http://www-tkn.ee.tu-berlin.de --------------57ED269D379B-- From rem-conf Fri Jul 24 06:04:31 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 24 06:04:30 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzhPi-00070t-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:57:34 -0700 Received: from idsc.gov.eg [163.121.2.5] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzhPg-00070j-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 05:57:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (rose@localhost) by idsc.gov.eg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA15942 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:52:46 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:52:46 +0300 (EET DST) From: SSDP Group To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: RTCP frame formats Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Hello all, I 'm doing a master on MM comunication protocols including RTP/RTCP. I need the frame formats for RTCP packets : RR, SDES, Bye. I also need a description of the algorithm to resolve contention between 2 nodes if they get the same SSRC identifier. Thanks, Hala From rem-conf Fri Jul 24 07:05:56 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 24 07:05:54 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yziOH-0001V6-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:00:09 -0700 Received: from cs.columbia.edu [128.59.16.20] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yziOG-0001Uv-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:00:08 -0700 Received: from erlang.cs.columbia.edu (erlang.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.19.141]) by cs.columbia.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11172; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by erlang.cs.columbia.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24082; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: hgs@cs.columbia.edu Message-ID: <35B89364.FE757D24@cs.columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:00:04 -0400 From: Henning Schulzrinne Organization: Columbia University, Dept. of Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SSDP Group CC: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: RTCP frame formats References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list SSDP Group wrote: > > Hello all, > > I 'm doing a master on MM comunication protocols including > RTP/RTCP. I need the frame formats for RTCP packets : RR, SDES, Bye. > > I also need a description of the algorithm to resolve contention between 2 > nodes if they get the same SSRC identifier. You might find http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~hgs/rtp useful. The information is contained in RFC 1889. From rem-conf Fri Jul 24 07:59:43 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 24 07:59:42 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzjII-0003r9-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:58:02 -0700 Received: from aries.dif.um.es (aries.) [155.54.12.152] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzjIF-0003qT-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 07:58:00 -0700 Received: from labredes5.dif.um.es by aries. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA06072; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:52:20 +0100 Message-Id: <199807241552.QAA06072@aries.> X-Sender: pedrom@aries.dif.um.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:52:10 +0200 To: rem-conf@es.net From: Pedro Miguel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ru=EDz?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Mart=EDnez?= Subject: Configure mrouted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Hello all, I=B4m fetching information about how to configure mrouted daemon. Man pages don=B4t says so much and I need to know what are all the possible options that I can configure. Bye. ------------------------------------------------- Pedro Miguel Ruiz Mart=EDnez. Tlf: 968364640 Laboratorio de Redes. Facultad de Inform=E1tica Universidad de Murcia. Espa=F1a (Spain). From rem-conf Fri Jul 24 11:36:29 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 24 11:36:27 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzme4-0002nQ-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:32:44 -0700 Received: from rumor.research.att.com [192.20.225.9] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0yzme2-0002nB-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:32:43 -0700 Received: from research.att.com ([135.207.30.100]) by rumor; Fri Jul 24 14:26:29 EDT 1998 Received: from surfcity.research.att.com ([135.207.128.5]) by research; Fri Jul 24 14:30:52 EDT 1998 Received: from pcmrcfast (pcmrcfast [135.207.131.70]) by surfcity.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA11799; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <021401bdb730$3dd870f0$4683cf87@pcmrcfast.research.att.com> Reply-To: "M. Reha Civanlar" From: "M. Reha Civanlar" To: , Subject: CfP: Real-time Video over the Internet Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:24:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by surfcity.research.att.com id OAA11799 X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Special Issue Of Image Communication (a EUROSIP Journal) on "Real-time Video over the Internet" Transmission of real-time video over the Internet is becoming an importan= t part of many multimedia applications. The availability of prototype systems th= at can deliver TV quality video using the Internet Protocol (IP) over intranets suggests that a real Internet TV may be feasible in the near future as higher bandwidth networks are more widely deployed. This will revolutionize the way we wat= ch TV by making it possible for every user to have a private TV studio from whi= ch specialized programs can be narrow-cast to interested viewers in the glob= al community. To achieve this goal, the video compression algorithms is being revised o= r redesigned to address the special requirements imposed by the Internet. These requirements include robust operation under high packet losses, delays an= d jitter; providing capabilities for multipoint transmission; coping with the heterogeneous nature of today=92s networks and adapting to varying network conditions. = In addition to the compression techniques, the transport and the session control protocols play a very important role in designing usable real-time video systems ov= er the Internet. Moreover, the future designer need to be completely aware of bo= th signal processing and network protocols aspects and use a combination of the two= in order to design successful systems. The special issue aims at providing the research and development communit= y with a collection of original contributions describing the state of the art syst= ems as well as results of new research and developments on the real-time Interne= t Video. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, - Network adaptive video coding and transport - Layered coding for error resilience and heteregenous networks - Packet loss resilient coding and transport techniques - Transcoding for heterogeneous networks - Packet loss concealment techniques - Statistical multiplexing for greater network utilization - Traffic shaping for efficient network and terminal utilization - Interstream synchronization for multiple video presentations - Rate control techniques for VBR video - Terminal and server architectures for real-time video over the Internet - Implementations and commercial applications - Telepresence - video cameras on the internet - Developments in the International Standards, e.g. MPEG, ITU, IETF. Important Deadlines: Submission: 1 September 1998 Acceptance Decision: 31 January 1999 Publication: May/June 1999 Please submit contributions to Guest Editors: Dr. M. Reha Civanlar Technology Leader, AT&T Labs - Research 100 Schultz Drive, 3-213 Red Bank, NJ 07701 U.S.A Phone: +1 732 345 3305 Fax: +1 732 345 3033 E-mail: civanlar@research.att.com Web: http://www.research.att.com/info/mrc Prof. A. Murat Tekalp Department of Electrical Engineering and Center for Electronic Imaging Systems Hopeman 204 University of Rochester Rochester, NY 14627-0126 U.S.A. Phone: +1 (716) 275-3774 Fax: +1 (716) 473-0486 E-mail: tekalp@ee.rochester.edu Web: http://www.ee.rochester.edu/~tekalp/ From rem-conf Sat Jul 25 04:52:00 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Sat Jul 25 04:51:58 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z02kJ-0004SM-00; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:44:15 -0700 Received: from aohakobe.ipc.chiba-u.ac.jp [133.82.241.137] (root) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z02kH-0004SC-00; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:44:13 -0700 Received: from aohakobe.ipc.chiba-u.ac.jp (yozo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aohakobe.ipc.chiba-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA01615; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:44:00 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199807251144.UAA01615@aohakobe.ipc.chiba-u.ac.jp> To: Pedro Miguel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ru=EDz?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Mart=EDnez?= cc: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Configure mrouted In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:52:10 +0200." <199807241552.QAA06072@aries.> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:44:00 +0900 From: Yozo Toda X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list > I´m fetching information about how to configure mrouted daemon. > Man pages don´t says so much and I need to know what are all the possible > options that I can configure. 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From rem-conf Sun Jul 26 15:23:08 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Jul 26 15:23:07 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z0Z2S-0006MK-00; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:13:08 -0700 Received: from mailman.cisco.com [171.68.225.9] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z0Z2R-0006Lw-00; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:13:07 -0700 Received: from chbailey-pc.cisco.com ([171.70.211.34]) by mailman.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.2-SunOS.5.5.1.sun4/CISCO.SERVER.1.2) with SMTP id PAA08304; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Chase Bailey" To: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Subject: Hot Interconnects VI Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:07:49 -0700 Message-ID: <005601bdb8e1$d3d2c580$22d346ab@chbailey-pc.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list *Sorry for any duplications* ******************************************************************** HOT INTERCONNECTS 6 August 13-15, 1998 Memorial Auditorium, Stanford University, Stanford, California For registration and up to date information visit Symposium web site at www.hoti.org A Symposium on High Performance Interconnects, from system buses and interfaces to networks. HOT Interconnects 6 brings together designers and architects of high-performance chips, software, and systems. Presentations focus on up-to-the-minutes real developments. This symposium is a forum for engineers and researchers to highlight their leading-edge designs. Three days of tutorials and techincal sessions will keep you on top of the industry. *************************************** Technical Program Thursday, August 13 7:30 am: Registration 9:00-10:00 am: Keynote - Challenges for Networking Companies in the 21st Century: A Business Perspective Charles Giancarlo, Vice President of Global Alliances at Cisco Systems Charles Giancarlo is Vice President of Global Alliances at Cisco Systems. Prior to joining Cisco, Mr. Giancarlo was Vice President, responsible for product marketing and corporate development for Kalpana, Inc. Mr. Giancarlo is widely recognized for his contributions in the ATM and LAN switching marketplace. Prior to Kalpana, Mr. Giancarlo served as the Vice President of Marketing for Adaptive Corporation, which developed the industry's first Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM) product for the LAN market. During his four-year tenure at Adaptive, Mr. Giancarlo co-founded the ATM Forum, an international consortium of more than 350 vendors and users, where he served on the Board of Directors for three years. While at Adaptive, Mr. Giancarlo developed and patented many industry firsts, including ATM LAN Emulation, Virtual LAN Technology, ATM Ratebased Flow Control and the industry's first ATM SAR chipset. As co-founder of O'Dowd Communications, Giancarlo designed and patented the first cell switch used for data communications. He also holds a patent for the first fully digital commercial codec-filter, which he developed when employed as a lead engineer for Siemens AG. He holds an M.B.A. from Harvard University and a M.S. and B.S. in Electrical Engineering from University of California, Berkeley, and Brown University respectively. 10:00 - 10:30 am: Break 10:30 am-12:00 pm : Fast Routers and Lookups Chair : Nick McKeown, Stanford University Building Fast Routers - G. Varghese, Washington University IP Address Lookup - A. Moestedt, Swedish Institute of Computer Science Architecture of the Avici Terabit Switch - B. Dally, Stanford University Detour: A Case for a Virtual Internet - Tom Anderson, University of Washington 12:00 - 1:30 pm: Lunch 1:30-3:00pm : Twisted Pair and Cable Chair : Chase Bailey, Cisco Systems Moving Towards Friendly DSLs - J. Cioffi, Stanford University Cable Modem Technology - Limb, Georgia Tech What's Wrong with Cable Technology - C. Thacker, Microsoft Simulation Study of Backbone Provisioning - J. Yee, Com21 3:00 - 3:30 pm: Break 3:30-5:00 pm : Switching Chair : Craig Partridge, GTE (BBN) Simultaneous Bi-directional Transceiver Logic - K. Ishibashi, Hitachi Design and Implementation of a Fast Crossbar Scheduler - Pankaj Gupta, Cisco Systems Implementation of Atlas I: A Single Chip - Katevenis, FORTH T-Cross Point Switch Architecture - Larson, UC San Diego 5:00-7:00 pm : Dinner Reception 7:00-8:30 pm : Panel - What I Love to Hate Chair: Steve Deering, Cisco Systems Panelists: Steve Deering, Cisco Systems; Hemant Kanakia, Torrent Systems; Chuck Thacker, Microsoft *************************************** Friday, August 14 9:00-10:00 am : Keynote - Grand Challenges of the Internet Van Jacobson, Group Leader for the Network Research Group, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 10:00 - 10:30 am: Break 10:30-11:15 am : Server Interconnects Chair : Bill Dally Using NUMA Interconnects - S. Kleiman, Network Appliances The NCR Worldmark Family BYNET MPP - R. McMillen, NCR 11:15 am-12:00 pm : Network Interfaces Chair : Randy Rettberg StarT-X; A one year exercise in Network Interface Engineering - J. Hoe, MIT Architecture Considerations for High Performance - S. Muller, Sun 12:00 - 1:30 pm: Lunch 1:30-3:00 pm : Potpourri Chair : Charles Thacker Interference Detection and Avoidance Techniques for Wireless Infrastructure - N. Furukawa, GTE ACTIVE Interconnects - J. Smith, University of Penn Design Considerations for 1000BaseT - R. Paripatyadar, ControlNet 3:00 - 3:30 pm: Break 3:30-4:15 pm : Fast Links Chair : Martin Izzard Serial Link Backplanes - M. Laor, Cisco Systems System Applications of Parallel Optics - L. Buckman, Hewlett Packard *************************************** Saturday, August 15 Tutorial Sessions 8:30 am to 12:00 pm: Morning Tutorial Voice Over IP Systems Dave Oran, Cisco Systems This tutorial provides a system-level understanding of Voice-over-IP systems and provides a basic understanding of all the components necessary to have a toll-quality telephony service using the technology. The tutorial covers: Audio endpoint design, including coding and voice compression basics, echo cancellation, packetization, and more advanced techniques such as FEC, mixing, and adaptive jitter buffer algorithms. Network design, including voice transport protocols (RTP/RTCP), and quality of service mechanisms (RED, WFQ, RSVP, TOS etc.) applicable to large scale voice transport. Call control and signaling methodologies, including H.323, SIP, SGCP in the IP world, and legacy PSTN signaling including ISDN PRI and SS7. David Oran is a Distinguished Engineer at Cisco System, responsible primarily for the architecture and overall design of Cisco's VoIP products. He also consults on a variety of other areas at Cisco, including backbone network design, routing protocols, and quality of service methods. Prior to joining Cisco Mr. Oran was a Senior Consulting engineer at Digital Equipment Corporation, where he was Technical Director for the Mobile Software Business. Mr Oran's main interests lie in the area of the design and implementation of distributed algorithms for computer networks. He was a member of the DECnet architecture group and contributed to the design of key elements of DECnet through 3 iterations of its evolution. He was the designer of the DNA Naming Service, a highly advanced distributed directory system which was adopted by the Open Software Foundation as the local directory component of its comprehensive Distributed Computing Environment product set. Mr. Oran holds a number of patents and patents pending for his work on distributed algorithms. In the area of networking standards, Mr. Oran was the head of the routing standards group in ISO and was editor for a number of important packet-switching and routing standards, including the OSI Routing Framework, the ESIS Protocol, and the Intra-domain ISIS Protocol. He also is group leader for the Integrated Services over Slow Links group of the IETF, and served on the routing and addressing group of the Internet Activities Board, which developed technical alternatives for enhancing the Internet protocol suite to deal with the explosive growth of the system. Mr. Oran was the editor the journal Computer Communication Review from 1991-95. He is the author a a number of technical articles and papers in the areas of protocol design and distributed systems architecture. He also serves on peer review panels for the USA National Science Foundation program in computer networking, and on the program committees of a number of technical conferences, including the SIGCOMM and Hot Interconnects conferences. Mr. Oran holds a B.A. in Physics and English from Haverford College, and has graduate level training in Magnetospheric Geophysics. 1:30 pm to 5:00 pm Afternoon Tutorial Design of High-Speed I/O Interfaces Mark Horowitz, Chih-Kong Ken Yang, Stefanos Sidiropoulos : Stanford Universtity This tutorial will examine the basic components needed to build high-speed electrical links including driver, receiver and phase-locked loop components. Example CMOS implementations will be presented, and limitations of these circuits will also be discussed. Mark Horowitz is the Yahoo Founder's Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at Stanford University. He received his BS and MS in Electrical Engineering from MIT in 1978, and his Ph.D. from Stanford in 1984. Dr. Horowitz is the recipient of a 1985 Presidential Young Investigator Award, and an IBM Faculty development award, as well as the 1993 best paper award at the International Solid State Circuits Conference. Dr Horowitz's research area is in digital system design, and he has lead a number of processor designs including MIPS-X, one of the first processors to include an on-chip instruction cache, TORCH, a statically-scheduled, superscalar processor that supported speculative execution, and FLASH, a flexible DSM machine. He has also worked in a number of other chip design areas including high-speed, and low-power memory design, high-bandwidth interfaces, and fast floating point. In 1990 he took leave from Stanford to help start Rambus Inc, a company designing high-bandwidth memory interface technology. His current research includes multiprocessor design, low power circuits, memory design, and high-speed links. Chih-Kong Ken Yang received the B.S. and M.S degrees in electrical Engineering from Stanford University, Stanford, in 1992. He is currently pursuing the Ph.D. degree at Stanford University. His research is in the area of circuit design for multi-gigabit links. Mr. Yang is a member of Tau Beta Pi and Phi Beta Kappa. Stefanos Sidiropoulos received the B.S. and M.S. degrees in Computer Science from the University of Crete, Greece, and the Ph.D. degree in Electrical Engineering from Stanford, CA in 1998. He has worked on circuit design and CAD tools at DEC, IIT, SGI He is currently with Rambus Inc, where he is designing DRAM interface circuits. His interests are in high-speed circuit design, and CAD tools. *************************************** Organizing Committee General Chair - Hasan S. Alkhatib, TTC of Silicon Valley Vice Chair - Diane Smith, Santa Clara University Program Co-chairs - Nick McKeown, Stanford University, and Chase Bailey, Cisco Systems Treasurer - Qiang Li, Santa Clara University Publicity - Kristina Scott, Visa Tutorials - Weijia Shang, Santa Clara University Local Arrangements - Edin Hodzic, AT&T Labs & Kersten Barney, Stanford University Proceedings - Vikki Wei, Auspex Systems Web Master - Bruce Wootton, TTC of Silicon Valley Program Committee Bill Dally, Stanford University Chuck Thacker, Microsoft Craig Partridge, BBN Dan Pitt, Bay Networks Dave Oran, Cisco Systems Greg Chesson, SGI James Luciani, Bay Networks Kathleen Nichols, Bay Networks Mark Horowitz, Stanford University Martin Izzard, Texas Instruments Qiang Li, Santa Clara University Randy Rettberf, Sun Microsystems Steve Deering, Cisco Systems For Registration and other information, please, visit our web site at www.hoti.org /chase Chase Bailey, Principal Technologist, Cisco Systems 408.527.3765, Fax: 408.527.9215, chase@cisco.com From rem-conf Sun Jul 26 15:23:08 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Sun Jul 26 15:23:08 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z0Z1o-0006M7-00; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:12:28 -0700 Received: from mailman.cisco.com [171.68.225.9] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z0Z1n-0006Lq-00; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:12:27 -0700 Received: from chbailey-pc.cisco.com ([171.70.211.34]) by mailman.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.2-SunOS.5.5.1.sun4/CISCO.SERVER.1.2) with SMTP id PAA08373; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Chase Bailey" To: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Subject: Hot Interconnects VI Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:09:28 -0700 Message-ID: <005701bdb8e2$0e9e0a80$22d346ab@chbailey-pc.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list *Sorry for any duplilcations* ******************************************************************** HOT INTERCONNECTS 6 August 13-15, 1998 Memorial Auditorium, Stanford University, Stanford, California For registration and up to date information visit Symposium web site at www.hoti.org A Symposium on High Performance Interconnects, from system buses and interfaces to networks. HOT Interconnects 6 brings together designers and architects of high-performance chips, software, and systems. Presentations focus on up-to-the-minutes real developments. This symposium is a forum for engineers and researchers to highlight their leading-edge designs. Three days of tutorials and techincal sessions will keep you on top of the industry. *************************************** Technical Program Thursday, August 13 7:30 am: Registration 9:00-10:00 am: Keynote - Challenges for Networking Companies in the 21st Century: A Business Perspective Charles Giancarlo, Vice President of Global Alliances at Cisco Systems Charles Giancarlo is Vice President of Global Alliances at Cisco Systems. Prior to joining Cisco, Mr. Giancarlo was Vice President, responsible for product marketing and corporate development for Kalpana, Inc. Mr. Giancarlo is widely recognized for his contributions in the ATM and LAN switching marketplace. Prior to Kalpana, Mr. Giancarlo served as the Vice President of Marketing for Adaptive Corporation, which developed the industry's first Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM) product for the LAN market. During his four-year tenure at Adaptive, Mr. Giancarlo co-founded the ATM Forum, an international consortium of more than 350 vendors and users, where he served on the Board of Directors for three years. While at Adaptive, Mr. Giancarlo developed and patented many industry firsts, including ATM LAN Emulation, Virtual LAN Technology, ATM Ratebased Flow Control and the industry's first ATM SAR chipset. As co-founder of O'Dowd Communications, Giancarlo designed and patented the first cell switch used for data communications. He also holds a patent for the first fully digital commercial codec-filter, which he developed when employed as a lead engineer for Siemens AG. He holds an M.B.A. from Harvard University and a M.S. and B.S. in Electrical Engineering from University of California, Berkeley, and Brown University respectively. 10:00 - 10:30 am: Break 10:30 am-12:00 pm : Fast Routers and Lookups Chair : Nick McKeown, Stanford University Building Fast Routers - G. Varghese, Washington University IP Address Lookup - A. Moestedt, Swedish Institute of Computer Science Architecture of the Avici Terabit Switch - B. Dally, Stanford University Detour: A Case for a Virtual Internet - Tom Anderson, University of Washington 12:00 - 1:30 pm: Lunch 1:30-3:00pm : Twisted Pair and Cable Chair : Chase Bailey, Cisco Systems Moving Towards Friendly DSLs - J. Cioffi, Stanford University Cable Modem Technology - Limb, Georgia Tech What's Wrong with Cable Technology - C. Thacker, Microsoft Simulation Study of Backbone Provisioning - J. Yee, Com21 3:00 - 3:30 pm: Break 3:30-5:00 pm : Switching Chair : Craig Partridge, GTE (BBN) Simultaneous Bi-directional Transceiver Logic - K. Ishibashi, Hitachi Design and Implementation of a Fast Crossbar Scheduler - Pankaj Gupta, Cisco Systems Implementation of Atlas I: A Single Chip - Katevenis, FORTH T-Cross Point Switch Architecture - Larson, UC San Diego 5:00-7:00 pm : Dinner Reception 7:00-8:30 pm : Panel - What I Love to Hate Chair: Steve Deering, Cisco Systems Panelists: Steve Deering, Cisco Systems; Hemant Kanakia, Torrent Systems; Chuck Thacker, Microsoft *************************************** Friday, August 14 9:00-10:00 am : Keynote - Grand Challenges of the Internet Van Jacobson, Group Leader for the Network Research Group, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 10:00 - 10:30 am: Break 10:30-11:15 am : Server Interconnects Chair : Bill Dally Using NUMA Interconnects - S. Kleiman, Network Appliances The NCR Worldmark Family BYNET MPP - R. McMillen, NCR 11:15 am-12:00 pm : Network Interfaces Chair : Randy Rettberg StarT-X; A one year exercise in Network Interface Engineering - J. Hoe, MIT Architecture Considerations for High Performance - S. Muller, Sun 12:00 - 1:30 pm: Lunch 1:30-3:00 pm : Potpourri Chair : Charles Thacker Interference Detection and Avoidance Techniques for Wireless Infrastructure - N. Furukawa, GTE ACTIVE Interconnects - J. Smith, University of Penn Design Considerations for 1000BaseT - R. Paripatyadar, ControlNet 3:00 - 3:30 pm: Break 3:30-4:15 pm : Fast Links Chair : Martin Izzard Serial Link Backplanes - M. Laor, Cisco Systems System Applications of Parallel Optics - L. Buckman, Hewlett Packard *************************************** Saturday, August 15 Tutorial Sessions 8:30 am to 12:00 pm: Morning Tutorial Voice Over IP Systems Dave Oran, Cisco Systems This tutorial provides a system-level understanding of Voice-over-IP systems and provides a basic understanding of all the components necessary to have a toll-quality telephony service using the technology. The tutorial covers: Audio endpoint design, including coding and voice compression basics, echo cancellation, packetization, and more advanced techniques such as FEC, mixing, and adaptive jitter buffer algorithms. Network design, including voice transport protocols (RTP/RTCP), and quality of service mechanisms (RED, WFQ, RSVP, TOS etc.) applicable to large scale voice transport. Call control and signaling methodologies, including H.323, SIP, SGCP in the IP world, and legacy PSTN signaling including ISDN PRI and SS7. David Oran is a Distinguished Engineer at Cisco System, responsible primarily for the architecture and overall design of Cisco's VoIP products. He also consults on a variety of other areas at Cisco, including backbone network design, routing protocols, and quality of service methods. Prior to joining Cisco Mr. Oran was a Senior Consulting engineer at Digital Equipment Corporation, where he was Technical Director for the Mobile Software Business. Mr Oran's main interests lie in the area of the design and implementation of distributed algorithms for computer networks. He was a member of the DECnet architecture group and contributed to the design of key elements of DECnet through 3 iterations of its evolution. He was the designer of the DNA Naming Service, a highly advanced distributed directory system which was adopted by the Open Software Foundation as the local directory component of its comprehensive Distributed Computing Environment product set. Mr. Oran holds a number of patents and patents pending for his work on distributed algorithms. In the area of networking standards, Mr. Oran was the head of the routing standards group in ISO and was editor for a number of important packet-switching and routing standards, including the OSI Routing Framework, the ESIS Protocol, and the Intra-domain ISIS Protocol. He also is group leader for the Integrated Services over Slow Links group of the IETF, and served on the routing and addressing group of the Internet Activities Board, which developed technical alternatives for enhancing the Internet protocol suite to deal with the explosive growth of the system. Mr. Oran was the editor the journal Computer Communication Review from 1991-95. He is the author a a number of technical articles and papers in the areas of protocol design and distributed systems architecture. He also serves on peer review panels for the USA National Science Foundation program in computer networking, and on the program committees of a number of technical conferences, including the SIGCOMM and Hot Interconnects conferences. Mr. Oran holds a B.A. in Physics and English from Haverford College, and has graduate level training in Magnetospheric Geophysics. 1:30 pm to 5:00 pm Afternoon Tutorial Design of High-Speed I/O Interfaces Mark Horowitz, Chih-Kong Ken Yang, Stefanos Sidiropoulos : Stanford Universtity This tutorial will examine the basic components needed to build high-speed electrical links including driver, receiver and phase-locked loop components. Example CMOS implementations will be presented, and limitations of these circuits will also be discussed. Mark Horowitz is the Yahoo Founder's Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at Stanford University. He received his BS and MS in Electrical Engineering from MIT in 1978, and his Ph.D. from Stanford in 1984. Dr. Horowitz is the recipient of a 1985 Presidential Young Investigator Award, and an IBM Faculty development award, as well as the 1993 best paper award at the International Solid State Circuits Conference. Dr Horowitz's research area is in digital system design, and he has lead a number of processor designs including MIPS-X, one of the first processors to include an on-chip instruction cache, TORCH, a statically-scheduled, superscalar processor that supported speculative execution, and FLASH, a flexible DSM machine. He has also worked in a number of other chip design areas including high-speed, and low-power memory design, high-bandwidth interfaces, and fast floating point. In 1990 he took leave from Stanford to help start Rambus Inc, a company designing high-bandwidth memory interface technology. His current research includes multiprocessor design, low power circuits, memory design, and high-speed links. Chih-Kong Ken Yang received the B.S. and M.S degrees in electrical Engineering from Stanford University, Stanford, in 1992. He is currently pursuing the Ph.D. degree at Stanford University. His research is in the area of circuit design for multi-gigabit links. Mr. Yang is a member of Tau Beta Pi and Phi Beta Kappa. Stefanos Sidiropoulos received the B.S. and M.S. degrees in Computer Science from the University of Crete, Greece, and the Ph.D. degree in Electrical Engineering from Stanford, CA in 1998. He has worked on circuit design and CAD tools at DEC, IIT, SGI He is currently with Rambus Inc, where he is designing DRAM interface circuits. His interests are in high-speed circuit design, and CAD tools. *************************************** Organizing Committee General Chair - Hasan S. Alkhatib, TTC of Silicon Valley Vice Chair - Diane Smith, Santa Clara University Program Co-chairs - Nick McKeown, Stanford University, and Chase Bailey, Cisco Systems Treasurer - Qiang Li, Santa Clara University Publicity - Kristina Scott, Visa Tutorials - Weijia Shang, Santa Clara University Local Arrangements - Edin Hodzic, AT&T Labs & Kersten Barney, Stanford University Proceedings - Vikki Wei, Auspex Systems Web Master - Bruce Wootton, TTC of Silicon Valley Program Committee Bill Dally, Stanford University Chuck Thacker, Microsoft Craig Partridge, BBN Dan Pitt, Bay Networks Dave Oran, Cisco Systems Greg Chesson, SGI James Luciani, Bay Networks Kathleen Nichols, Bay Networks Mark Horowitz, Stanford University Martin Izzard, Texas Instruments Qiang Li, Santa Clara University Randy Rettberf, Sun Microsystems Steve Deering, Cisco Systems For Registration and other information, please, visit our web site at www.hoti.org /chase Chase Bailey, Principal Technologist, Cisco Systems 408.527.3765, Fax: 408.527.9215, chase@cisco.com From rem-conf Tue Jul 28 08:11:40 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jul 28 08:11:39 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1BCu-0007XO-00; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:58:28 -0700 Received: from aries.dif.um.es (aries.) [155.54.12.152] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1BAi-0007VD-00; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:58:26 -0700 Received: from labredes5.dif.um.es by aries. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA17467; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:50:12 +0100 Message-Id: <199807281550.QAA17467@aries.> X-Sender: pedrom@aries.dif.um.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:49:49 +0200 To: rem-conf@es.net From: Pedro Miguel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ru=EDz?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Mart=EDnez?= Subject: How to filter multicast traffic. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Hello all, I=B4m thinking about how to filter multicast traffic. Should I use a firewall?. Can I configure that using "mrouted.conf"? Ideas are wellcome :-) Thanks. ------------------------------------------------- Pedro Miguel Ruiz Mart=EDnez. Tlf: 968364640 Laboratorio de Redes. Facultad de Inform=E1tica Universidad de Murcia. Espa=F1a (Spain). From rem-conf Tue Jul 28 10:48:03 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jul 28 10:48:01 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1Dix-0001wW-00; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:39:43 -0700 Received: from mars.dgrc.crc.ca [142.92.38.100] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1Diw-0001wJ-00; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:39:42 -0700 Received: from betty.dgrc.doc.ca (betty.dgrc.crc.ca) by mars.dgrc.crc.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03159; Tue, 28 Jul 98 13:39:02 EDT Received: by betty.dgrc.doc.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA05667; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:39:12 -0400 From: luigi@mars.dgrc.crc.ca (John A. Stewart) Message-Id: <199807281739.NAA05667@betty.dgrc.doc.ca> Subject: MultiMON 2.0 Multicast Network Monitor released. To: mectec@cs.ucl.ac.uk, rem-conf@es.net, mboned@ns.oregon.edu Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:39:11 -856436 (EDT) Cc: mbone@isi.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list (apologies if you receive duplicates of this message) The latest version of MultiMON, our Multicast Monitoring tool, has been released. The web page describing the functioning of this tool is at: http://www.merci.crc.ca/#MultiMON The software is at: ftp://debra.dgbt.crc.ca/pub/mbone/multimon/multimon.2.0.tar.gz Changes since previous versions include long-term monitoring, and numerous bug fixes. Please go through the web pages for more information. It requires Unix, tcl/tk 8.0 or above, and a network tap that allows promiscuous access. There are some programs, for instance, a modified tcpdump and a version of xplot, that are included in both source format and in compiled form for Sparc Solaris machines. John Stewart - john.stewart@crc.ca John Robinson - john.robinson@crc.ca Communications Research Centre, Ottawa, Canada. From rem-conf Tue Jul 28 15:24:09 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Tue Jul 28 15:24:07 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1I5i-0004xc-00; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:19:30 -0700 Received: from rohan.btg.com [199.29.53.67] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1I5h-0004xF-00; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:19:29 -0700 Received: from exch_server.btg.com (exchserver.btg.com [199.29.53.73]) by rohan.btg.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21619; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchserver.btg.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:19:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dean, Adam" To: "'Remote Conference Group'" , "'t120 Interest Group'" Subject: Packed Encoding Rules and ASN.1 Automatic Tags Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:20:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Hello, I was wondering if anyone has any resources that can describe the Packed Encoding Rules (PER) better then the ITU-T Recommendation X.691. Specifically I'm trying to decode T.124 PDUs which are encoded using PER and ASN.1 with Automatic Tags. The T.124 PDUs definitions do not include an APPLICATION TAGS like those of the T.125 PDUs, so how do you determine which type of T.124 PDU is in the data? Any help that you can give on this subject would be appreciated. ================================================================ adean@btg.com From rem-conf Wed Jul 29 08:21:02 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 29 08:21:02 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1Xri-00063V-00; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:10:06 -0700 Received: from george-2.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov) [131.243.2.12] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1Xrg-00063I-00; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:10:04 -0700 Received: (from deba@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.8.8/LBL-ITG) id IAA21154; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Deb Agarwal (ITG staff) Message-Id: <199807291510.IAA21154@george.lbl.gov> Subject: Broadcasting HPDC Symposium To: rem-conf@es.net (remote conferencing) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: cif@injector.ca.sandia.gov (collaboratory interoperability framework), itg@george.lbl.gov Reply-To: DAAgarwal@lbl.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Sorry for the late notice: We are multicasting the High Performance Distributed Computing Symposium 7/29-7/31. The broadcasts will take place 9am-5pm CST. We are also running the devserv and have remotely controllable cameras. People are welcome to watch and drive the cameras. The devserv is running on hollywood.mcs.anl.gov. For more information and a version of camclnt that is already hardcoded to talk to hollywood see http://www.mcs.anl.gov/cif/hpdc7 The session is advertised in sdr as "HPDC7 CIF Demo" Thanks, Deb Agarwal (LBL) Brian Toonen (ANL) From rem-conf Wed Jul 29 11:29:07 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 29 11:29:06 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1auM-0000Wq-00; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:25:02 -0700 Received: from sirius.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.60] (root) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1auK-0000Wd-00; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:25:00 -0700 Received: from comet.columbia.edu (sweetpea.comet.columbia.edu [128.59.68.61]) by sirius.ctr.columbia.edu (8.9.1/8.6.4.287) with ESMTP id OAA13480; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35BF94BB.F8AAC786@comet.columbia.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:31:39 -0700 From: "Andrew T. Campbell" Reply-To: campbell@comet.columbia.edu Organization: Center for Telecommunications Research, Columbia University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Free Source Code for Open Programmable Mobile Networking Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list The Mobiware Toolkit for Open Programmable Mobile Networking Mobiware v1.0 Source Code Distribution: http://comet.columbia.edu/mobiware/ The mobiware toolkit is software intensive (approx. 40,000 lines of code) and is built on CORBA and Java distributed object technology. Based on an open programmable paradigm developed by the COMET Group, mobiware runs on mobile devices, wireless access points and mobile capable switch/routers providing a set of open programmable interfaces and algorithms for adaptive mobile networking. -- Andrew T. Campbell http://comet.columbia.edu/~campbell From rem-conf Wed Jul 29 12:26:44 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 29 12:26:42 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1bqA-0001iG-00; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:24:46 -0700 Received: from rumor.research.att.com [192.20.225.9] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1bq9-0001i6-00; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:24:45 -0700 Received: from research.att.com ([135.207.30.100]) by rumor; Wed Jul 29 15:18:24 EDT 1998 Received: from surfcity.research.att.com ([135.207.128.5]) by research; Wed Jul 29 15:21:17 EDT 1998 Received: from pcmrcfast (pcmrcfast [135.207.131.70]) by surfcity.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA26641 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00ca01bdbb25$1329c310$4683cf87@pcmrcfast.research.att.com> Reply-To: "M. Reha Civanlar" From: "M. Reha Civanlar" To: Subject: A new I-D: AT&T's Error Resilient Video Transmission Technique Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:14:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list A new I-D: "AT&T's Error Resilient Video Transmission Technique" is now available at: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-civanlar-hplp-00.txt Comments and questions are encouraged. Abstract: This document describes a set of techniques for packet loss resilient transmission of compressed video bitstreams based on reliable delivery of their vital information-carrying segments. The described techniques can be used over packet networks without packet prioritization. These techniques are related to AT&T/Lucent patents. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- M. Reha Civanlar Technology Leader, AT&T Labs - Research 100 Schultz Drive, Red Bank, NJ 07701, U.S.A civanlar@research.att.com Phone: +1 732 345 3305 Fax:+1 732 345 3033 http://www.research.att.com/info/mrc From rem-conf Wed Jul 29 22:48:02 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Wed Jul 29 22:48:00 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1lTA-0006NU-00; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:41:40 -0700 Received: from zip.elliott.net (zip.kego.com) [199.242.251.2] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1lT7-0006NK-00; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:41:38 -0700 Received: from zip (Administrators@localhost) by zip.kego.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00080 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:41:30 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:41:30 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Resent-From: cam@elliott.net Resent-Message-Id: <199807300541.WAA00080@zip.kego.com> Message-ID: <000e01bdbb7c$b3f55320$02fbf2c7@zip.kego.com> From: "Cameron Elliott" To: Subject: High bandwidth videoconferencing (high speed LAN) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:41:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Bcc: X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list I'm looking for tools to do high bandwidth videoconferencing, >from 1mbps to 20mbps or higher on either NetBSD or Windows platforms. Could someone suggest the best freely available or commercial platforms for such videoconferencing. (Ideally I would like to be able to do something along the lines of HDTV (High Definition Television) videoconferencing. Say, 30fps at 1k by 1k. Thanks Cameron Elliott From rem-conf Thu Jul 30 06:57:37 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jul 30 06:57:33 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1t5d-00034s-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 06:49:53 -0700 Received: from odin.ietf.org (ietf.org) [132.151.1.176] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1t5c-00034Q-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 06:49:52 -0700 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with ESMTP id JAA25870; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199807301347.JAA25870@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: rem-conf@es.net From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-crtp-05.txt Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:47:51 -0400 Sender: cclark@ns.cnri.reston.va.us X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list --NextPart Note: This revision reflects comments received during the last call period. A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : Compressing IP/UDP/RTP Headers for Low-Speed Serial Links Author(s) : V. Jacobson, S. Casner Filename : draft-ietf-avt-crtp-05.txt Pages : 22 Date : 29-Jul-98 This document describes a method for compressing the headers of IP/UDP/RTP datagrams to reduce overhead on low-speed serial links. In many cases, all three headers can be compressed to 2-4 bytes. Comments are solicited and should be addressed to the working group mailing list rem-conf@es.net and/or the author(s). Internet-Drafts are available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-avt-crtp-05.txt". A URL for the Internet-Draft is: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avt-crtp-05.txt Internet-Drafts directories are located at: Africa: ftp.is.co.za Europe: ftp.nordu.net ftp.nis.garr.it Pacific Rim: munnari.oz.au US East Coast: ftp.ietf.org US West Coast: ftp.isi.edu Internet-Drafts are also available by mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avt-crtp-05.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19980729162655.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avt-crtp-05.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-avt-crtp-05.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19980729162655.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From rem-conf Thu Jul 30 09:04:06 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jul 30 09:04:04 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1v1m-0004ZK-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:54:02 -0700 Received: from excite-www.whowhere.com (mailexcite.com) [209.1.236.11] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1v1l-0004Yv-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:54:01 -0700 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailexcite.com; Thu Jul 30 06:18:48 1998 To: rem-conf@es.net Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 06:18:48 -0700 From: "srikanth nagendra" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: to register in mailing list for mobile computing X-Sender-Ip: 202.41.85.5 Organization: MailExcite (http://www.mailexcite.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 241 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Dear sir, i would like to get registered in the mailing list on mobile computing and distb. objects. my mail address is nagsrik@mailexcite.com thanking you, srikanth. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com From rem-conf Thu Jul 30 11:07:34 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jul 30 11:07:33 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1wzI-0006OW-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:59:36 -0700 Received: from ctsops.celtech.com [192.84.22.4] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z1wzH-0006O8-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:59:35 -0700 Received: from kego.com ([209.67.68.18]) by ctsops.celtech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20043 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35C0B427.7919E9C0@kego.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:58:00 -0700 From: cam X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: Vic & Vat highest bandwith rates? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list I'm interested in hearing about people running vic at high frame rates at high-end resolutions. Thanks Cameron Elliott From rem-conf Thu Jul 30 20:30:25 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jul 30 20:30:24 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z25nl-0003Qt-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:24:17 -0700 Received: from send1e.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.64] by mail1.es.net with smtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z25nk-0003Qj-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:24:16 -0700 Message-ID: <19980731032243.11658.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Received: from [202.41.72.102] by send1e; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:22:43 PDT Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:22:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Arkesh Kumar Subject: Re : MPEG-2 To: rem-conf@es.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Hi Could some one tell me if full resolution of 720x576 is possible with MPEG-2 at 2 Mbps. With regards, Arkesh _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From rem-conf Thu Jul 30 21:17:32 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Thu Jul 30 21:17:31 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z26Xz-0004Ni-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:12:03 -0700 Received: from amlogic178.fiasj.net (smtp.amlogic.com) [208.232.79.178] (root) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z26Xx-0004NY-00; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:12:02 -0700 Received: from amlogic.com (braves [192.9.100.1]) by smtp.amlogic.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA16148; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:24:59 -0700 Received: from marlins.amlogic.com by amlogic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27070; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:13:34 PDT Received: by marlins.amlogic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03273; Thu, 30 Jul 98 21:11:10 PDT From: "Wilson C. Chung" Message-Id: <980730211110.ZM3271@marlins> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:11:09 -0700 In-Reply-To: Arkesh Kumar "Re : MPEG-2" (Jul 30, 8:22pm) References: <19980731032243.11658.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Arkesh Kumar , rem-conf@es.net Subject: Re: Re : MPEG-2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list On Jul 30, 8:22pm, Arkesh Kumar wrote: > Subject: Re : MPEG-2 > Hi > Could some one tell me if full resolution of 720x576 is possible > with MPEG-2 at 2 Mbps. > > With regards, > > Arkesh > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >-- End of excerpt from Arkesh Kumar Yes, it is. Use MP@ML. -wilson wilson c. chung E* wilson@amlogic.com amlogic inc. T* +1 408.232.3130 W* http://www.amlogic.com F* +1 408.970.0688 -- wilson c. chung E* wilson@amlogic.com amlogic inc. T* +1 408.232.3130 W* http://www.amlogic.com F* +1 408.970.0688 From rem-conf Fri Jul 31 14:38:35 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 31 14:38:34 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2Mdx-0004dQ-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:23:17 -0700 Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.7] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2Mdw-0004dG-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:23:16 -0700 Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26056 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from batie@localhost) by aahz.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03020; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980731142315.37975@aahz.jf.intel.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:23:15 -0700 From: Alan Batie To: rem-conf@es.net Subject: RTP MIB implementation available Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary=IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We've just released the source for an add-on module to UCD-SNMP which implements the monitoring portion of the RTP MIB. It was developed on FreeBSD 2.2.2 and UCD-SNMP 3.3, but should work on any system the UCD-SNMP package runs on. The URL is http://developer.intel.com/ial/mib/index.htm That web page includes links to the AVT and UCD-SNMP web pages, for those who want more background information. Please give it a try and let us know what you think! --=20 Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNcI1wRCfrckvDwdpAQHz8wP/S4v+YQ8yqaJhkIiMGvWVnQ5oBWar8oxE RvYvLziRlDw2PunV5KqnpiN61UFqnWco/desdIS35ji7moLb2H0vzaxfsjoImsUX syDT/Tidniby5LPtZri4CK3oKdTJcAnk6AdQbpzUuXeTRm0VwruxUbCWHm4YziGK AkTuCQcHHyM= =lQ7D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From rem-conf Fri Jul 31 14:55:33 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 31 14:55:33 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2N3k-00052q-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:49:56 -0700 Received: from (forest.icast.com) [209.1.118.2] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2N3j-00052f-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:49:55 -0700 Received: (from mail@localhost) by forest.icast.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA01575 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:49:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199807312149.OAA01575@forest.icast.com> Received: from brian.internal.icast.com(192.168.20.77) by forest.icast.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001571; Fri, 31 Jul 98 14:49:31 -0700 X-Sender: brian@apache.internal.icast.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:48:33 -0700 To: rem-conf@es.net From: Brian Smithson Subject: First Virtual Corporation / ICAST press release Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: First Virtual Corporation Elyse Phillips, 408/567-7230 elyse@fvc.com FIRST VIRTUAL CORPORATION AGREES TO ACQUIRE INTERNET BROADCAST COMPANY; ANNOUNCES COMPANY NAME CHANGE TO FVC.COM SANTA CLARA, Calif., July 30, 1998-- First Virtual Corporation (Nasdaq: FVCX), a leading provider of Next Generation Internet (NGI) video applications, today announced the signing of an agreement to acquire ICAST Corporation, a developer of Internet Protocol (IP) voice and video broadcast solutions. With this acquisition, First Virtual will be able to deliver video broadcast products to the 100 million Internet-equipped PCs worldwide. ICAST co-founder and president Vinay Kumar will head up streaming and broadcast programs for First Virtual Corporation. Mr. Kumar is a pioneer of Internet technology, having lead the team that architected the delivery of multimedia over the Internet, known as the MBone. Concurrently, First Virtual Corporation announced that it will change its name to FVC.COM to more accurately reflect the company's role in developing NGI and Internet applications for interactive, broadcast-quality video. According to FVC.COM Chief Executive Officer Ralph Ungermann, the technologies developed by ICAST are complementary to FVC.COM's existing product portfolio. "Our focus has been on providing end-to-end solutions for the new broadband Next Generation Internet. ICAST's line of broadcast solutions for today's Internet brings video streaming to web-enabled PCs worldwide. As a result, FVC.COM will be the only one-stop provider of managed video solutions for high-end through low bit-rate video applications," said Ungermann. FVC.COM invites Internet users to visit WWW.FVC.COM to view a video clip of senior management discussing the acquisition. Visitors can view the clip using the ICAST Viewer product which is also available on this page. "One of the fastest growing areas of the Internet is in video and audio broadcast," said Ungermann. "We are committed to providing our customers with a full range of the best technologies and products, whether through in-house development or strategic acquisitions." "The combination of ICAST and FVC.COM products is expected to produce the most complete voice, video and data solution across the Internet spectrum," said Vinay Kumar, president and Chief Technical Officer, ICAST Corporation. "This combined product offering will enhance the way businesses, government, and education providers meet and exchange ideas and information." ICAST's IP multicasting solutions enable large-scale delivery of voice, video and text from one sender to many recipients, or from many senders to many recipients. ICAST's multicasting model leverages advances in router technologies from companies such as Cisco (NASDAQ:CSCO) and Bay Networks (NYSE:BAY), and is compatible with other steaming media technologies from Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) and Real Networks (NASDAQ:RNWK). FVC.COM's current product suite includes high-quality MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 video products. The combination of these high-end solutions with ICAST's low bit-rate solutions will provide the most comprehensive end-to-end video solutions available on the market today. The purchase, valued at approximately $8 million, of the privately held Los Gatos, California-based company will be made with a combination of FVC.COM common stock and assumption of debt; other terms were not disclosed. The acquisition of ICAST is expected to close in August. The Company also announced that it expects that the transaction will be accretive to its earnings in 1999. About The Next Generation Internet (NGI) The Next Generation Internet (NGI) is the new broadband Internet, being deployed by service providers and enterprises for the integrated delivery of voice, video and data applications. A key characteristic of the NGI (http://www.ngi.gov) is the ability to handle multimedia applications such as real-time interactive video, as well as stored and live video-on-demand. FVC.COM combines its expertise in Internet tools, Quality of Service (QoS), and video technology to deliver networked video over the NGI for key video applications such as distance learning, telemedicine, video marketing and video manufacturing. About FVC.COM FVC.COM is the leader in video applications over the Next Generation Internet (NGI). FVC.COM's products enable end-to-end video in a wide range of room and desktop environments for video applications such as distance learning, distance meetings, and distance medicine. Founded in 1993 by technology pioneer Ralph Ungermann, FVC.COM designs, manufactures and supports a full video networking product family that includes NGI access devices, adapters, gateways and video storage servers, all of which support the company's award-winning MOS software. FVC.COM's distribution and system integration partners include leading telecommunication and networking companies throughout the world, such as Ascend Communications (NASDAQ:ASND), Bay Networks (NYSE:BAY), Bell Atlantic Network Integration (NYSE:BEL), British Telecom (NYSE:BTY), EDS (NYSE:EDS), IBM (NYSE:IBM), Lucent Technologies (NYSE:LU), NEC (NASDAQ:NIPNY), and Nortel (NYSE:NT). Cautionary Statement Except for the historical information contained herein, this news release contains forward-looking statements, including, without limitation, statements containing the words, "believes," "anticipates," "expects" and words of similar import. Such forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors which may cause the actual results, performance or achievements of FVC.COM, or industry results, to be materially different from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Such factors include, among others: the risk that the acquisition will not be consummated on schedule, or at all, the risk that the integration of FVC.COM's and ICAST's respective business operations is not achieved in a timely and expected manner, or that key personnel of ICAST are not successfully retained, FVC.COM'slimited operating history and variability of operating results, market acceptance of video technology, dependence on ATM backbone technology and the Next Generation Internet, potential inability to maintain business relationships with distributors and suppliers, rapid technological changes, competition in the video networking industry, the importance of attracting and retaining personnel, management of FVC.COM's growth, consolidation and cost pressures in the video networking industry, dependence on key employees and other risk factors referenced in the Company's Registration Statement on Form S-1, File No. 333- 38755, declared effective on April 29, 1998. -- - Brian Smithson brian@icast.com ICAST Corporation +1 408 874 0707 101-C Albright Way FAX +1 408 874 0710 Los Gatos, CA 95030 http://www.icast.com From rem-conf Fri Jul 31 15:42:32 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 31 15:42:31 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2NnV-0006R1-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:37:13 -0700 Received: from huginn.cs.berkeley.edu [128.32.35.5] by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2NnU-0006Qq-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:37:12 -0700 Received: from mop.cs.berkeley.edu (marin.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.39.190]) by huginn.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.3/8.7.0.Beta0) with SMTP id PAA03959; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980731153827.0085ad10@pop.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: mccanne@pop.cs.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:38:27 -0700 To: Brian Smithson From: Steven McCanne Subject: Re: First Virtual Corporation / ICAST press release Cc: rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: <199807312149.OAA01575@forest.icast.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list >Mr. Kumar >is a pioneer of Internet technology, having lead the team that architected >the delivery of multimedia over the Internet, known as the MBone. Brian, I realize Vinay Kumar set up a web site and wrote a descriptive book about our research community's work, but I don't recall that he made any specific contributions or maintained any leadership roles. Does anyone else on this list? Steve From rem-conf Fri Jul 31 15:57:18 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 31 15:57:17 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2O4v-00077z-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:55:13 -0700 Received: from amlogic178.fiasj.net (smtp.amlogic.com) [208.232.79.178] (root) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2O4t-00077o-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:55:12 -0700 Received: from amlogic.com (braves [192.9.100.1]) by smtp.amlogic.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17192; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:08:10 -0700 Received: from marlins.amlogic.com by amlogic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00458; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:56:32 PDT Received: by marlins.amlogic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03682; Fri, 31 Jul 98 15:54:06 PDT From: "Wilson C. Chung" Message-Id: <980731155405.ZM3680@marlins> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:54:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: Steven McCanne "Re: First Virtual Corporation / ICAST press release" (Jul 31, 3:38pm) References: <3.0.5.32.19980731153827.0085ad10@pop.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Steven McCanne , Brian Smithson Subject: Re: First Virtual Corporation / ICAST press release Cc: rem-conf@es.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list Oh, well, for the internet A/V streaming hype these days. VIVO got bought by RealNetworks. Starlight got bought by PictureTel (8-)), and now ICAST by FVC. I recall that the CEO of ICAST is on the board of PictureTel. Anything sell if you are an internet company 8-) -wilson On Jul 31, 3:38pm, Steven McCanne wrote: > Subject: Re: First Virtual Corporation / ICAST press release > >Mr. Kumar > >is a pioneer of Internet technology, having lead the team that architected > >the delivery of multimedia over the Internet, known as the MBone. > > Brian, > > I realize Vinay Kumar set up a web site and wrote a descriptive book about > our research community's work, but I don't recall that he made any specific > contributions or maintained any leadership roles. Does anyone else on this > list? > > Steve > >-- End of excerpt from Steven McCanne -- wilson c. chung E* wilson@amlogic.com amlogic inc. T* +1 408.232.3130 W* http://www.amlogic.com F* +1 408.970.0688 From rem-conf Fri Jul 31 16:17:28 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 31 16:17:28 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2OLo-00001z-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:12:40 -0700 Received: from grot.com [209.1.118.7] (root) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2OLn-00001p-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:12:39 -0700 Received: from brian.grot.com (brians.vip.best.com [204.156.156.114]) by grot.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA05280; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:12:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199807312312.QAA05280@grot.com> X-Sender: icast@grot.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:09:49 -0700 To: Steven McCanne From: Brian Smithson Subject: Re: First Virtual Corporation / ICAST press release Cc: rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980731153827.0085ad10@pop.cs.berkeley.edu> References: <199807312149.OAA01575@forest.icast.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list I'm just quoting the press release, not taking any [dis]credit for writing it :-). However, I do recall that Vinay did some interesting work back when we were both at Enterprise Integration Technologies (remember them?): - Shared Mosaic, which used multicast to share URLs or HTML among multiple Mosaic users - a web-enabled video on demand application using multicast - some other prototypes that probably didn't see any public light of day, but were deployed in some commercial and research projects Did he "lead the team that architected ... the MBone."?? OK, so that was some PR writer getting a little carried away. :-) At 03:38 PM 7/31/98 -0700, Steven McCanne wrote: >>Mr. Kumar >>is a pioneer of Internet technology, having lead the team that architected >>the delivery of multimedia over the Internet, known as the MBone. > >Brian, > >I realize Vinay Kumar set up a web site and wrote a descriptive book about >our research community's work, but I don't recall that he made any specific >contributions or maintained any leadership roles. Does anyone else on this >list? > >Steve > -- - Brian Smithson brian@icast.com ICAST Corporation +1 408 874 0707 101-C Albright Way FAX +1 408 874 0710 Los Gatos, CA 95030 www.icast.com From rem-conf Fri Jul 31 16:30:29 1998 From rem-conf-request@es.net Fri Jul 31 16:30:28 1998 Received: from list by mail1.es.net with local (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2OZY-0000pf-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:26:52 -0700 Received: from grot.com [209.1.118.7] (root) by mail1.es.net with esmtp (Exim 1.81 #2) id 0z2OZX-0000pU-00; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:26:51 -0700 Received: from brian.grot.com (brians.vip.best.com [204.156.156.114]) by grot.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA05345; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:26:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199807312326.QAA05345@grot.com> X-Sender: icast@grot.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:24:09 -0700 To: "Wilson C. Chung" From: Brian Smithson Subject: Re: First Virtual Corporation / ICAST press release Cc: rem-conf@es.net In-Reply-To: <980731155405.ZM3680@marlins> References: <3.0.5.32.19980731153827.0085ad10@pop.cs.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailing-List: X-Loop: rem-conf@es.net Precedence: list At 03:54 PM 7/31/98 -0700, Wilson C. Chung wrote: >VIVO got bought by RealNetworks. Starlight got bought by PictureTel (8-)), >and now ICAST by FVC. Don't forget VXtreme and Microsoft. Or Microsoft's stake in VDOnet and in RealNetworks. >I recall that the CEO of ICAST is on the board of PictureTel. That'd be Enzo Torresi. He's also on the board of FVC. But don't overestimate his contribution to any of this... >Anything sell if you are an internet company 8-) Not really. -- - Brian Smithson brian@icast.com ICAST Corporation +1 408 874 0707 101-C Albright Way FAX +1 408 874 0710 Los Gatos, CA 95030 www.icast.com