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Note that the deadline for early registration is August 3rd (this Friday).


                        Call for Participation
                     ACM SIGCOMM 2001 Conference

                     August 27 - August 31, 2001
              University of California, San Diego, CA USA
                 http://www.acm.org/sigcomm/sigcomm2001

Deadlines:

Proposals for student travel grant:      June 15, 2001
Proposals for student poster session:    June 17, 2001
Hotel registration deadline:             July 23, 2001
Advance registration ends:              August 3, 2001

ACM SIGCOMM 2001 is the annual conference of the Special Interest
Group on Data Communication (SIGCOMM), a single-track, highly
selective conference with a technical program of 23 papers, tutorials
by noted instructors on the two days prior, and a panel discussion.

Early registration for SIGCOMM 2001 is now available.
Registration details, as well as information on student travel grants
and requests for proposals for the work-in-progress poster session are
available at the SIGCOMM website above.

SIGCOMM Award

The SIGCOMM Award is given annually to a person whose career and
technical achievements demonstrate a long-term commitment to the field
of data communications. ACM SIGCOMM is pleased to announce that the 2001
SIGCOMM Award is being given to Van Jacobson of Packet Design, Inc.
Van Jacobson will receive the award and give the conference keynote
address in the opening session on Wednesday.

Tutorials

SIGCOMM 2001 begins with two days of full- and half-day tutorials
covering single topics in detail at both the introductory and advanced
level.  Tutorials offered this year are:

 - Wireless Data
     Phil Karn, Qualcomm, Inc.
 - Traffic Measurement for IP Operations
     Matt Grossglauser and Jennifer Rexford, AT&T
 - Interdomain Routing and BGP
     Timothy G. Griffin, AT&T
 - Equilibrium and Dynamics of TCP
     Prof. Steven H. Low, California Inst. of Technology
 - Algorithms for Networks: Some Techniques for Design and Analysis
     Ashish Goel, University of Southern California
     Nick McKeown and Balaji Prabhakar, Stanford University

Poster Session - Work in Progress

The Poster Session is aimed at showcasing the "work-in-progress" of
students attending the conference.  Poster proposals should be sent by
email to Hari Balakrishnan (hari@lcs.mit.edu) by June 17 (no
extensions).  Please see the conference website for details regarding
the submission format.

Student Travel Awards

The purpose of the student travel program is to encourage graduate
student participation at the conference by partially or fully funding
the travel costs of students who would otherwise be unable to
attend. SIGCOMM 2001 thanks Cisco and SIGCOMM for funding the program
this year.  See the website for eligibility criteria and application
procedures.

Outrageous Opinions Session

The Outrageous Opinions Session provides an opportunity for sharing
entertaining, provocative, and otherwise enriching ideas and suggestions
in their early stages. The session will be held Thursday evening.

Social Events

The reception will be at the Birch Aquarium at Scripps.  The Aquarium
is situated on a hilltop site that provides a spectacular view on the
Scripps Institution of Oceanography campus, northern La Jolla, and the
Pacific Ocean.  Conference attendees will have full access to the
aquarium exhibits during the reception. The reception is included in
registration fee for attendees and their guests. No reservations
necessary.

The SIGCOMM 2001 Banquet will be held in the Main Ballroom of the
Hotel Del Coronado, situated on picturesque Coronado Island. Over 112
years old, it is a National Historic Landmark renowned for its
magnificent architecture and legendary guests. The banquet is included
in the registration fee for attendees. There will be a $75 charge for
each guest.

General Co-Chairs
     Rene Cruz, UC San Diego, USA (cruz@ece.ucsd.edu)
     George Varghese, UC San Diego, USA (varghese@ece.ucsd.edu)
Program Co-Chairs
     Roch Guerin, U. Pennsylvania, USA (guerin@ee.upenn.edu)
     Derek McAuley, Marconi Research Center, UK (derek.mcauley@marconi.com)
Publicity Chair
     Dilip Kandlur, IBM TJ Watson Research Ctr, USA (kandlur@us.ibm.com)
Tutorials Chair
     Chuck Kalmanek, AT&T Research, USA (crk@research.att.com)
Local Arrangements Chair
     Geoff Voelker, UC San Diego, USA (voelker@cs.ucsd.edu)
Finance Chair
     Joe Touch, UCS/ISI, USA (touch@isi.edu)
Publication Chair
     Ramesh Govindan, USC/ISI, USA (govindan@isi.edu)
Student Travel Award Chair
     Christos Papadopoulos, U. Southern California (christos@isi.edu)
Student Poster Chair
     Hari Balakrishnan, MIT, USA (hari@lcs.mit.edu)

Support from Cisco, IBM, Deloitte and Touche, PMC-Sierra, Marconi,
Procket Networks, Agilent Technologies, Microsoft Research, and
USC/ISI is gratefully acknowledged.




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TBX Resources Inc. (OTCBB:TBXR)
 
GROWTH ANNOUNCEMENTS AND HUGE NEWSLETTER COVERAGE THIS WEEK FOR TBXR !!!
 
In the past weeks TBXR has been profiled by some major newsletters and its getting more notice.  There has been and will continue to be nice volume and a strong increase in price for several days.  These are the same newsletters that profiled CLKS two weeks ago.  They brought CLKS from $1.50 to $4.35 in ten days.  We know for certain that the same groups are going to profile TBXR starting on Thursday---tomorrow 8/9/01.  Not to mention that if you own the stock before August 15th which is next week, you will get shares of the new companies subsidiary GULFTEX drilling (read July 10th press release below).  TBXR is a debt free profitable oil and gas drilling company.  They are aggressively expanding there operations..and the stock price is reflecting there growth.
 
We are very proud that we can share this information with you so that you can make a profit out of it.  It is highly advisable to consider taking a position in TBXR as soon as possible, today before the market closes,  or tomorrow at the latest.  Once again may I also add that this is not a daytrade..it is a longer term hold with continuous upside potential.  
 
The stock shot right up from its 52 week low of .60 cents to $2.35 per share and is ready to break out over $3 and will start moving up immediately from there.  We believe the stock could easily reach its 52 week high of $5.35 in less than a month as an initial target.  Then look for a possible run to $10 - $15 per share over the next six to twelve months.  Shares Outstanding: 14,559,027 as of 1999-11-30  

TBX Resources Inc. Announces Spin-Off of New Drilling Company
DALLAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 10, 2001--TBX Resources Inc. (OTCBB:TBXR - news) announced today the formation of GULFTEX Drilling Inc., a new drilling company that is a wholly owned subsidiary of TBX Resources Inc., to be spun off to TBX's shareholders. The spin-off will be initiated by a stock dividend to existing TBXR shareholders of record as of August 15, 2001 whereby one share of GULFTEX common stock will be distributed for every five shares of TBXR owned. GULFTEX Drilling Inc. expects to actively pursue the acquisition of three drilling rigs and one rework rig. 

TBX Resources Inc. also announced today that they have contracted to acquire 100% of the Working Interest with a related 75% Net Revenue Interest in leases covering 3,363 acres in the Barnett Shale in Montague County, Texas from American West Resources Inc. The Barnett Shale development project consists of as many as 30 wells potentially to be drilled over the next 24 months. The drilling rigs are expected to be on location in the Barnett Shale field as soon as GULFTEX completes the acquisition of the rigs. According to American West Resources Inc., projected reserves for these leases may reach 1.5 BCF (billion cubic feet) per well. Based on that projection, the potential reserves could be as high as 45 Billion Cubic Feet of Gas to be developed throughout the life of the project. According to TBX's accountants report, the Pro Forma numbers could possibly be as much as $70 Million in revenue to TBX Resources Inc., over the life of the project, although no assurances can be ma!
de that these leases will live up to TBX's expectations. An option agreement was executed to acquire an additional 7,000 acres to further develop the Barnett Shale in the same area of Montague County, Texas. 

Mitchell Energy & Development Corp. announced on June 14th that they have drilled nearly 700 wells in the Barnett Shale since 1990 and attributes a 38% increase to their bottom line for 2001 due to their Barnett Shale success. They recently announced plans for the drilling of 1,180 additional wells over the next 4 years, with the current 55-acre spacing. That activity, along with drilling by other producers, have expanded the area's previously proven limits by more than 50% to cover 120,000 net acres, officials said. 

This release may contain certain forward-looking statements (as such term is defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995), which reflect the views of TBXR's management with respect to future events. These statements are subject to uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the statements made. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any of these forward looking statements since there can be no assurances that the forward looking information contained herein will in fact transpire. 

NOTE to U.S. Investors -- The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission permits oil and gas companies, in their filings with the SEC, to discuss only proved reserves that a company has demonstrated by actual production or conclusive formation tests to be economically and legally producible under existing economic and operating conditions. Certain terms used such as ``probable'' and ``possible'' are terms that the SEC's guidelines strictly prohibit issuers from including in filings with the SEC. U.S. investors are urged to review all public filings made by public companies. 

**** This stock pick and profile was sent to you free of charge in the hopes to help you make money.  Feel free to distribute this profile to anyone you know of that trades stocks.  PLEASE do your own research before buying this stock..we want you to as feel safe about the investment you are about to make as we do.  All we ask in return, is when you make money over the long term with our picks, that you consider giving back to a charity in your area.  We are grateful to be able to do what we do and help others.  Wishing you health, happiness and successful trading.



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*** CALL FOR PARTICIPATION ***

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*** Call for Demonstrations and Poster session ***


IDMS 2001
8th International Workshop on
Interactive Distributed Multimedia Systems

September 4-7, 2001, Lancaster, UK
http://www.idms2001.org

in cooperation with 
ACM SIGCOMM 
ACM SIGMM
IPv6 Forum

Sponsors:
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  Hewlett Packard Laboratories
  Microsoft Research
  Orange
  Sony Electronics

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  * Enabling the Internet to provide Multimedia Services
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  * MPEG-21 Standard: Why an Open Multimedia Framework?
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and sessions on
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  * Control of Multimedia Networks
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without forgetting a complete social programme designed for maximum
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* organised accomodation 

We are also interested in receiving information about proto-
type multimedia systems relevant to IDMS which could be 
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will also be organised to allow delegates to disseminate
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please contact, as soon as possible, the local organising committee 
at local@idms2001.org.

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http://www.idms2001.org

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Tim Stammers wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
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Post remove requests to rem-conf-request@es.net or whatever reflector
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Please remove me as well.





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in case another 1000 people are planning to unsubscribe to a mailing list by
sending the verbal expression of their aim to all members of the mailing
list, and I can stop at least some of them, then this mail may not be an
additional reason for embarassement.
ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST! IT EXPLAINS
HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE!
NEVER SEND "REMOVE" TO THE MAILING LIST ITSELF!!!!

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>ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
>PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST!...

Willi,

Great suggestion! However I no longer have the email I received when I
subscribed to this list. I did it on another computer a long time ago - and
I'll bet many others of us are in a similar situation.

I would GREATLY appreciate SOMEONE either telling me specifically how to get
off this list or perhaps someone could do it for me. The last time I asked
to be removed, I got a very nice email stating that I would be taken off,
however I'm still getting messages to the same email address.

Many of the lists I belong to have a notice automatically appended to the
bottom of EACH email stating specifically how to unsubscribe. That would
sure come in handy for me, and obviously for lots of other people who
evidently are as frustrated as I am about not being able to disconnect from
this tar baby!

Thanks in advance for any help you or anyone can provide.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Stadler Wilhelm [mailto:wilhelm.stadler@infonova.at]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:13 AM
To: 'Jack Yu'; rem-conf@es.net
Subject: RE: remove / NOT THAT WAY

in case another 1000 people are planning to unsubscribe to a mailing list by
sending the verbal expression of their aim to all members of the mailing
list, and I can stop at least some of them, then this mail may not be an
additional reason for embarassement.
ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST! IT EXPLAINS
HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE!
NEVER SEND "REMOVE" TO THE MAILING LIST ITSELF!!!!

best regards,
willi




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I know that you can send "unsubscribe" mail to  <rem-conf-request@es.net>.
I sent "unsubscribe" to that email address several days ago, but nothing
happens. I still receive message from it now.
I don't know why.

Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions.

Regards,

Lingfen

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Harter <daveh@airmail.net>
To: Stadler Wilhelm <wilhelm.stadler@infonova.at>
Cc: XX <rem-conf@es.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: remove / NOT THAT WAY


> >ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
> >PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST!...
>
> Willi,
>
> Great suggestion! However I no longer have the email I received when I
> subscribed to this list. I did it on another computer a long time ago -
and
> I'll bet many others of us are in a similar situation.
>
> I would GREATLY appreciate SOMEONE either telling me specifically how to
get
> off this list or perhaps someone could do it for me. The last time I asked
> to be removed, I got a very nice email stating that I would be taken off,
> however I'm still getting messages to the same email address.
>
> Many of the lists I belong to have a notice automatically appended to the
> bottom of EACH email stating specifically how to unsubscribe. That would
> sure come in handy for me, and obviously for lots of other people who
> evidently are as frustrated as I am about not being able to disconnect
from
> this tar baby!
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you or anyone can provide.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stadler Wilhelm [mailto:wilhelm.stadler@infonova.at]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:13 AM
> To: 'Jack Yu'; rem-conf@es.net
> Subject: RE: remove / NOT THAT WAY
>
> in case another 1000 people are planning to unsubscribe to a mailing list
by
> sending the verbal expression of their aim to all members of the mailing
> list, and I can stop at least some of them, then this mail may not be an
> additional reason for embarassement.
> ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
> PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST! IT
EXPLAINS
> HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE!
> NEVER SEND "REMOVE" TO THE MAILING LIST ITSELF!!!!
>
> best regards,
> willi
>
>




From rem-conf Thu Aug 16 03:33:16 2001 
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From: Stadler Wilhelm <wilhelm.stadler@infonova.at>
To: "'Dave Harter'" <daveh@airmail.net>
Cc: "'rem-conf@es.net'" <rem-conf@es.net>
Subject: AW: remove / NOT THAT WAY
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:33:06 +0200
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hi there,
several people have asked me to post the unsubscribe-method.
FIRST: i am NOT AT ALL responsible for any administrative matters of =
this
mailing list, I am a subscriber myself, nothing more, I just was a bit
unpatient receiving 20 "unsubscribes" from users in 1 day.

nevertheless here my hint for unsubscribing:

to be removed from the list send a mail to:
mailto:rem-conf-request@es.net

type "remove" (or "unsubscribe") as ONLY TEXT of the mail.
(leave the subject blank, it's not processed!)
this should be it.
if removal is successful, you get a success notification, otherwise you
should receive an error message / explanation.
further possible steps should be described there.

Best regards,
Willi

> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Dave Harter [mailto:daveh@airmail.net]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. August 2001 11:39
> An: Stadler Wilhelm
> Cc: XX
> Betreff: RE: remove / NOT THAT WAY
>=20
>=20
> >ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
> >PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST!...
>=20
> Willi,
>=20
> Great suggestion! However I no longer have the email I received when =
I
> subscribed to this list. I did it on another computer a long=20
> time ago - and
> I'll bet many others of us are in a similar situation.
>=20
> I would GREATLY appreciate SOMEONE either telling me=20
> specifically how to get
> off this list or perhaps someone could do it for me. The last=20
> time I asked
> to be removed, I got a very nice email stating that I would=20
> be taken off,
> however I'm still getting messages to the same email address.
>=20
> Many of the lists I belong to have a notice automatically=20
> appended to the
> bottom of EACH email stating specifically how to unsubscribe.=20
> That would
> sure come in handy for me, and obviously for lots of other people who
> evidently are as frustrated as I am about not being able to=20
> disconnect from
> this tar baby!
>=20
> Thanks in advance for any help you or anyone can provide.
>=20
> Dave
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stadler Wilhelm [mailto:wilhelm.stadler@infonova.at]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:13 AM
> To: 'Jack Yu'; rem-conf@es.net
> Subject: RE: remove / NOT THAT WAY
>=20
> in case another 1000 people are planning to unsubscribe to a=20
> mailing list by
> sending the verbal expression of their aim to all members of=20
> the mailing
> list, and I can stop at least some of them, then this mail=20
> may not be an
> additional reason for embarassement.
> ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
> PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE=20
> LIST! IT EXPLAINS
> HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE!
> NEVER SEND "REMOVE" TO THE MAILING LIST ITSELF!!!!
>=20
> best regards,
> willi
>=20



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Subject: Re: remove / NOT THAT WAY 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:38:52 CDT."
             <DPEFKLPKNPAODLLCKGILCEKACDAA.daveh@airmail.net> 
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:10:14 +0100
From: Colin Perkins <csp@isi.edu>
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You can get off this list by sending an unsubscribe to rem-conf-request@es.net
or by waiting until the end of the month, when the list will be deleted. The
convention of using the "-request" suffix works for 99% of mailing lists in
existence, whereas sending a message to the list itself almost never works
(and annoys a lot of other people!)

Colin



--> Dave Harter writes:
>>ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
>>PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST!...
>
>Willi,
>
>Great suggestion! However I no longer have the email I received when I
>subscribed to this list. I did it on another computer a long time ago - and
>I'll bet many others of us are in a similar situation.
>
>I would GREATLY appreciate SOMEONE either telling me specifically how to get
>off this list or perhaps someone could do it for me. The last time I asked
>to be removed, I got a very nice email stating that I would be taken off,
>however I'm still getting messages to the same email address.
>
>Many of the lists I belong to have a notice automatically appended to the
>bottom of EACH email stating specifically how to unsubscribe. That would
>sure come in handy for me, and obviously for lots of other people who
>evidently are as frustrated as I am about not being able to disconnect from
>this tar baby!
>
>Thanks in advance for any help you or anyone can provide.
>
>Dave
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stadler Wilhelm [mailto:wilhelm.stadler@infonova.at]
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:13 AM
>To: 'Jack Yu'; rem-conf@es.net
>Subject: RE: remove / NOT THAT WAY
>
>in case another 1000 people are planning to unsubscribe to a mailing list by
>sending the verbal expression of their aim to all members of the mailing
>list, and I can stop at least some of them, then this mail may not be an
>additional reason for embarassement.
>ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
>PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST! IT EXPLAINS
>HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE!
>NEVER SEND "REMOVE" TO THE MAILING LIST ITSELF!!!!
>
>best regards,
>willi
>



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Why is it that we are getting this sudden flurry of remove requests,
seemingly in response to the notice that the list is going to be deleted in
a few days anyway,
which will make unsubscribing completely unnecessary.
(Since I'm from another planet (although my mother denies it), please
explain human beings to me.)





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Hi, I am also trying to unsubscribe from this list. I had sent
three messages to "rem-conf-request@es.net" with "unsubscribe" in
the body (as stated in that e-mail I received after subscribing),
however I am still in the list and getting messages.

I would appreciate if someone can fix this problem.

Regards,
Emre Gunduzhan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Harter [mailto:daveh@airmail.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:39 AM
> To: Stadler Wilhelm
> Cc: XX
> Subject: RE: remove / NOT THAT WAY
>
>
> >ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
> >PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST!...
>
> Willi,
>
> Great suggestion! However I no longer have the email I received when I
> subscribed to this list. I did it on another computer a long time
> ago - and
> I'll bet many others of us are in a similar situation.
>
> I would GREATLY appreciate SOMEONE either telling me specifically
> how to get
> off this list or perhaps someone could do it for me. The last time I asked
> to be removed, I got a very nice email stating that I would be taken off,
> however I'm still getting messages to the same email address.
>
> Many of the lists I belong to have a notice automatically appended to the
> bottom of EACH email stating specifically how to unsubscribe. That would
> sure come in handy for me, and obviously for lots of other people who
> evidently are as frustrated as I am about not being able to
> disconnect from
> this tar baby!
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you or anyone can provide.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stadler Wilhelm [mailto:wilhelm.stadler@infonova.at]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:13 AM
> To: 'Jack Yu'; rem-conf@es.net
> Subject: RE: remove / NOT THAT WAY
>
> in case another 1000 people are planning to unsubscribe to a
> mailing list by
> sending the verbal expression of their aim to all members of the mailing
> list, and I can stop at least some of them, then this mail may not be an
> additional reason for embarassement.
> ALL POTENTIAL RESIGNERS:
> PLEASE READ THE MAIL YOU RECEIVED WHEN SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST!
> IT EXPLAINS
> HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE!
> NEVER SEND "REMOVE" TO THE MAILING LIST ITSELF!!!!
>
> best regards,
> willi
>
>




