Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa16461; 1 Mar 96 10:31 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa16455; 1 Mar 96 10:31 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa07710; 1 Mar 96 10:31 EST Received: from ns.gte.com ("port 2355"@ns.gte.com) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I1TE2DA8349QVO2V@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 07:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.gte.com ("port 2355"@ns.gte.com) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I1TE2BB84W9QVEKW@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 07:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunny.gte.com by ns.gte.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id KAA10848; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:07:30 -0500 Received: from [132.197.99.25] (wilfredine [132.197.99.25]) by bunny.gte.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA02074; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:07:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:15:44 -0500 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Wilfredine Chiasson Subject: Invitation/NOMS '96, Kyoto, April 15-19, 1996 X-Sender: wc05@pophost.gte.com To: ifip-nm@bbn.com, cnom@maestro.bellcore.com, nmf-members@nmf.com, netmgt@ncri.com, sig-dsm@doc.imperial.ac.uk, netmgt@ncri.com, enternet@bbn.com, dsm@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, nmsig@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, aow-nmsig@stc.ipa.go.jp, ewos-egnm@extend.iihe.ac.be, snmsigl@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, noms96@joker.bellcore.com, corpcom@osf.org, nmf-members@nmf.org, ifip-emailmgt@ics.uci.edu, snmp@psi.com, nadism@mbunix.mitre.org, mitre-osi@bistromath.mitre.org, nsm-info@gateway.mitre.org, x3t54@mbunix.mitre.org, nmsig@ics.uci.edu, rwnmcc@external.iihe.rtt.be, OSIMIS@cs.ucl.ac.uk, ietf-madman@innosoft.com, nms@netmgrs.co.uk, iimc@thumper.bellcore.com, OVForum@andrew.cmu.edu, ieeetcpc@ccvm.sunysb.edu, commsoft@cc.bellcore.com, comswtc@gmu.edu, isinm97_oc@ctr.columbia.edu, news.announce.conferences@USENET, ieee.announce@innosoft.com, comp.protocols.snmp@USENET, comp.protocols.iso@innosoft.com, comp.org.ieee@USENET Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Your Invitation to Attend NOMS `96 IEEE/IFIP 1996 Network Operations and Management Symposium Kyoto, Japan - - - April 15 - 19, 1996 Dear Colleagues: Join us and your colleagues at NOMS '96, the fifth biennial symposium in the rapidly evolving area of network operations and management. NOMS is one of the premier symposia in our profession and is held in the even-numbered years in collaboration with IEEE CNOM and IFIP Working Group 6.6. It is an excellent forum for learning and sharing ideas and experiences with other practitioners and organizations. NOMS '96 features an outstanding program with twenty-one technical sessions on important topics and three plenary sessions: one session with three Keynote speakers providing vision into the future, and two Distinguished Experts Panel Sessions with participation of exceptional talent. The symposium will also offer timely and highly relevant tutorials by subject matter experts on current topics. In addition, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions will provide the opportunity to participate in ad hoc focused discussion groups. There will be Poster Sessions to discuss late breaking topics and to encourage one-on-one and detailed technical interactions. Demonstrations will feature state-of-the-art ideas in network management. The city of Kyoto is prepared to welcome you and to provide you the cultural experience of a lifetime. Strategically located within the city, the Kyoto Park Hotel is an outstanding setting for the symposium, central to all major historical sites in the Kyoto area, and an ideal place to experience the delightful flavor of traditional Japanese culture and attractions. Below you will find a listing of all the technical events during the four days of the Symposium, followed by a Registration form and information. You also can get complete details, and complete an on-line Symposium Registration form on our WWW site at "http://www.ieee.org/comsoc/NOMS-96.html" Come to NOMS '96 and be a part of "Managing the Global Information Ag= e." Masayoshi Ejiri & Shri Goyal, NOMS `96 General Co-Chairs =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Program-At-A-Glance Monday, April 15th 12NOON - 6:00PM: Registration 1:30PM - 5:30PM Tutorial 1: Telecommunications Information Networking Architecture (TINA), Building the Future Information Marketplace; Room C: Edinburgh-W (Not= e) Tutorial 2: ATM Platform Management ATM Forum Ambassador Program; Room D: Edinburgh-E (Note) Tutorial 3: Management Platforms: Operability, Interoperability and Portability Room F: Sujaku (Note) Tuesday, April 16th 7:30AM - 8:30PM: Registration 8:30AM - 12NOON Tutorial 4: NMF - Solutions For Today's Global Telecom Providers Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Tutorial 5: Wireless Personal Communications: Architectures, Standards, and Network Management; Room B: Buckingham-E (Note) Tutorial 6: Disaster Recovery I; Room C: Edinburgh-W (No= te) Part-1: The Impact of the Kobe Earthquake on Corporate Networks Part-2: Damage from the Kobe Earthquake and NTT's Restoration Activities 1:30PM - 5:30PM Tutorial 7: Telecommunications Management Network (TMN): Standards, Implementations, and Applications; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Tutorial 8: Process Reengineering Applied to Network Management Room B: Buckingham-E (Note) Tutorial 9: Disaster Recovery II; Room C: Edinburgh-W (Note) Part-1: Measures to Limiting Damage to International Telecommunication Services during and after the Kobe Earthquake Part-2: The Impact on Telecommunications of Recent Earthquakes in California 7:00PM - 8:30PM: Welcome Reception at the Kyoto Park Hotel; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Wednesday, April 17th 7:00AM - 5:00PM: Registration 8:30AM - 10:00AM Session 1 - Keynote Session: Managing the Global Information Age; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Rudolph J. Frank, AT&T Network Systems, USA Sadahiko Kano, NTT, Japan Roberto Saracco, CSELT, Italy 10:00AM - 1:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E (Note) 10:00AM - 10:30AM: Tea and Coffee Break 10:30AM - 12NOON Session 2: Enterprise Network Management; Room A: Buckingham-W (Not= e) Session 3: Management Architectures & Frameworks; Room B: Buckingham-E (Note) Session 4: End-to-End Interoperability; Room C: Edinburgh-W 12NOON - 1:30PM: Lunch Break (Lunch not included in registration fee) 1:30PM - 3:00PM Session 5: Distributed Network & Service Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 6: TMN/CORBA Integration; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 7: Interdomain Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W 3:00PM - 6:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E 3:00PM - 3:30PM: Tea and Coffee Break 3:30PM - 5:30PM Session 8: Broadband Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 9: Platform Experience; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 10: Network Reliability & Survivability; Room C: Edinburgh-= W 5:30PM - 7:00PM: Poster Session/ Birds-of-a-Feather Session; Room C: Edinburgh-W 7:00PM: Symposium Banquet at the Kyoto Park Hotel; Room A/B: Buckingham-W/= E Thursday, April 18th 7:00AM - 5:00PM: Registration 8:30AM - 10:00AM Session 11 - Distinguished Experts Panel I: Can We Really Manage the Global Information Age?; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Beth Adams, Lawrence Bernstein, Peter Beevor, Salah Aidarous, Yoshimi Teshigawara 10:00AM - 1:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E 10:00AM - 10:30AM: Tea and Coffee Break 10:30AM - 12NOON Session 12: Business & Service Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 13: Distributed System Management; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 14: Access Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W 12NOON - 1:30PM: Lunch Break (Lunch not included in registration fee) 1:30PM - 3:00PM Session 15: Software Technology for Service Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 16: TMN; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 17: Multi-media Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W 3:00PM - 6:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E 3:00PM - 3:30PM: Tea and Coffee Break 3:30PM - 5:30PM Session 18: Prototyping & User Interfaces; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 19: Fault/Trouble Management; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 20: Traffic & Performance Management 5:30PM - 7:00PM: Poster Session; Room E: Horikawa 5:30PM - 9:00PM Birds-of-a-Feather Session; Rooms A, B & C: Buckingham-W, Buckingham-E & Edinburgh-W =46riday, April 19 7:30AM - 12NOON: Registration 8:30AM - 10:00AM Session 21: Managing the Transition; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 22: Management Information Modelling; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 23: Services Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W (Note) 10:00AM - 10:30AM: Tea and Coffee Break 10:30AM - 12NOON Session 24 - Distinguished Experts Panel II: Challenges from the Evolving Telecommunications Infrastructure; Room A: Buckingham-W Terry Carlin, Robbie Cohen, Zach Gilstein, Sadahiko Kano, Shaygan Kheradpir, Jong-Tae Park 12NOON - 1:30PM: Lunch Break (Lunch not included in registration fee) 1:00PM - 7:00PM: Technical Visit, Kansai Science City NOTE: Room assignments are subject to change. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Registration =46ax to: NOMS '96 Registration Manager Fax number: +81 3 3273 2445 or via mail to... Ms. Chizuko Asamizu, Registration Manager NOMS '96 Registration Office, c/o ICS Inc. 2-14-9, Nihonbashi, Chuo-ku Tokyo, 103 Japan Tel: +81 3 3272 8035 Personal Details Dr, Prof, Mr, Mrs, Miss Surname/Family Name: =46irst Name: Badge Name (if different from First Name): Designation: Company/Organization: Street: Room/Apt. Number: City: State/Province: Postal Code: Country: Business Telephone Number: Home Telephone Number: =46ax Number (see Note 7 below): E-mail address: Guest Surname/Family Name: Guest First Name: I have special dietary or access needs. Please explain requirements (e.g., vegetarian meals, wheel chair ramps, etc.): I'll be attending as a __Delegate __Author __Session Chair __ Exhibitor __Speaker And I am a member of: __IEEE __IEICE __IPSJ __ORS My Member number is: (Attendees wishing to join one of these organization to enjoy the discounted Member Registration prices (see below), should attach a copy of the completed application with this Registration Form.) Registration Fees - - - - - - - -On or Before March 1 -[After March 1] Symposium (see Note 1, below) IEEE Member - - - - - - - - - -Y65,000 - [Y80,000] IEICE, IPSJ, ORSJ Member - Y70,000 - [Y85,000] STUDENT MEMBER - - - - - Y25,000 - [Y25,000] Non-Member- - - - - - - - - - -Y75,000 - [Y90,000] Tutorials see Note 2, below. One Tutorial - - - - - - - - - - - Y20,000 Two Tutorials - - - - - - - - - -Y35,000 Three Tutorials - - - - - - - - - -Y45,000 Best-Buy Package,.- - - - - - - -Y35,000 see Note 3, below Three Tutorials (Requires Symposium Registration Fee) Please check all the Tutorials you plan to attend. (You can select only one for each time period.) Monday, April 15 PM: __Tl __ T2 __ T3 Tuesday, April 16 AM: __T4 __T5 __T6 Tuesday, April 16 PM: __T7 __T8 __T9 Guest Fee. with paid Symposium attendee - - - - - - - - Y15,000 (see Note 3, below) Other Options Symposium Record Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y7,500 Non-Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y9,000 Symposium Record Mailing Fee Mail Record to address in Japan - - - - - Y2,= 000 Mail Record to address outside Japan - Y11,00= 0 Tutorial Notes, see Note 5, below. Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y3,000 Non-Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y5,000 Total (in Japanese Yen only) : =A5____________ [code: A11 e-mail] Please total all items selected above and enter value. (No refunds after April 1, 1996) Payment Options __ Check or draft will be sent via mail with copy of this Registration =46orm. (See Notes below.) __ Bank Remittance; Bank Account Specified: 1) Bank: - - - - - - - - - - - - Bank of Tokyo 2) Branch: - - - - - - - - - - - Marunouchi Branch 3) Name of Account:- - - NOMS'96 4) Number: - - - - - - - - - - Ordinary 1234161 __ VISA __MasterCard __American Express Card Number: Card Expiration Date Signature: Date of Signature: Important Notes Make cheques and bank drafts payable to NOMS `96 or enter credit card information above. All cheques and drafts must be drawn on a Japanese bank and in Yen. All credit-card payments accepted in Yen only. 1. Symposium Registration includes all Plenary Sessions, all Technical Sessions, Technical Visit, Symposium Record, Welcome Reception and Banquet. It does not include Tutorials. Return to Symposium Registration. 2. Tutorials: You can register for one or more Tutorials without paying the Symposium Registration fee, or in addition to the appropriate Symposium Registration fee. Tutorial Registration includes Tutorial Record (for each Tutorial attended). It does not include Technical Sessions, Technical Visit, Welcome Reception and Banquet. Return to Tutorials. 3. The Best-Buy Package allows you to attend three tutorials for the price of two, when you also pay the appropriate Symposium Registration fee. The Best-Buy Package includes all,Symposium and Tutorial benefits listed above. Return to Tutorials. 4. Guest attendance only available when accompanying a paid Symposium Registration fee. Guest Fee includes Welcome Reception and Banquet. Return to Guest. 5. Tutorial Notes available on site only; subject to availability. Tutorial Notes are included with each Tutorial registration. Return to Records. 6. Refund Policy: There is a Y10,000 cancellation fee for all paid registrations. NOMS '96 must receive a written cancellation notice no later than March 1, 1996 to remit a refund minus the cancellation fee. Refunds will not be made after March 1, 1996. 7. All Registration Acknowledgements will be sent via fax. Please be sure to supply your fax number on the form above. Registration will not be acknowledged until payment is received. Clark DesSoye, Marketing Manager Tel: +1 212 705 8247 | Fax: +1 212 705 7865 E-mail: c.dessoye@ieee.org URL: http://www.ieee.org/comsoc c/o IEEE Communications Society 345 East 47th Street New York, NY 10017-2394 U.S.A.   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa00248; 1 Mar 96 13:28 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa00242; 1 Mar 96 13:28 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa10714; 1 Mar 96 13:28 EST Received: from park.interport.net ("port 56049"@park.interport.net) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I1TK9RSLXC9QVCLO@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from park.interport.net ("port 56049"@park.interport.net) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I1TK9PRQGW9QVEKW@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from fs2.purelogic.com (fs2.purelogic.com [204.180.198.2]) by park.interport.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26337; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from FS2/SpoolDir by fs2.purelogic.com (Mercury 1.21); Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from SpoolDir by FS2 (Mercury 1.21); Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:13:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:17:46 -0500 (EST) Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: wc05@gte.com To: ietf-madman@innosoft.com Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: <199603011817.NAA26337@park.interport.net> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From uucp.purelogic.com!nms-owner Fri Mar 01 13:14:16 1996 remote from uucp Received: by uucp.purelogic.com (UUPC/extended 1.12r); Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:14:16 -0500 Message-ID: <31373e78.uucp@uucp.purelogic.com> Received: from SpoolDir by FS2 (Mercury 1.21); 1 Mar 96 13:10:18 EST Received: from duct.mail.pipex.net by fs2.purelogic.com (Mercury 1.21); 1 Mar 96 13:09:14 EST Received: from netmgrs.co.uk (actually zebedee.netmgrs.co.uk) by duct.mail.pipex.net with SMTP (PP); Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:09:52 +0000 Received: by netmgrs.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00646; Fri, 1 Mar 96 16:56:19 GMT X-Sender: wc05@pophost.gte.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:15:44 -0500 To: ifip-nm@bbn.com, cnom@maestro.bellcore.com, nmf-members@nmf.com, netmgt@ncri.com, sig-dsm@doc.imperial.ac.uk, netmgt@ncri.com, enternet@bbn.com, dsm@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, nmsig@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, aow-nmsig@stc.ipa.go.jp, ewos-egnm@extend.iihe.ac.be, snmsigl@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, noms96@joker.bellcore.com, corpcom@osf.org, nmf-members@nmf.org, ifip-emailmgt@ics.uci.edu, snmp@psi.com, nadism@mbunix.mitre.org, mitre-osi@bistromath.mitre.org, nsm-info@gateway.mitre.org, x3t54@mbunix.mitre.org, nmsig@ics.uci.edu, rwnmcc@external.iihe.rtt.be, OSIMIS@cs.ucl.ac.uk, ietf-madman@innosoft.com, nms@netmgrs.co.uk, iimc@thumper.bellcore.com, OVForum@andrew.cmu.edu, ieeetcpc@ccvm.sunysb.edu, commsoft@cc.bellcore.com, comswtc@gmu.edu, isinm97_oc@ctr.columbia.edu, news.announce.conferences@netmgrs.co.uk, ieee.announce@gte.com, comp.protocols.snmp@netmgrs.co.uk, comp.protocols.iso@gte.com, comp.org.ieee@netmgrs.co.uk From: wc05@gte.com (Wilfredine Chiasson) Subject: Invitation/NOMS '96, Kyoto, April 15-19, 1996 Sender: nms-owner@netmgrs.co.uk Precedence: bulk Your Invitation to Attend NOMS `96 IEEE/IFIP 1996 Network Operations and Management Symposium Kyoto, Japan - - - April 15 - 19, 1996 Dear Colleagues: Join us and your colleagues at NOMS '96, the fifth biennial symposium in the rapidly evolving area of network operations and management. NOMS is one of the premier symposia in our profession and is held in the even-numbered years in collaboration with IEEE CNOM and IFIP Working Group 6.6. It is an excellent forum for learning and sharing ideas and experiences with other practitioners and organizations. NOMS '96 features an outstanding program with twenty-one technical sessions on important topics and three plenary sessions: one session with three Keynote speakers providing vision into the future, and two Distinguished Experts Panel Sessions with participation of exceptional talent. The symposium will also offer timely and highly relevant tutorials by subject matter experts on current topics. In addition, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions will provide the opportunity to participate in ad hoc focused discussion groups. There will be Poster Sessions to discuss late breaking topics and to encourage one-on-one and detailed technical interactions. Demonstrations will feature state-of-the-art ideas in network management. The city of Kyoto is prepared to welcome you and to provide you the cultural experience of a lifetime. Strategically located within the city, the Kyoto Park Hotel is an outstanding setting for the symposium, central to all major historical sites in the Kyoto area, and an ideal place to experience the delightful flavor of traditional Japanese culture and attractions. Below you will find a listing of all the technical events during the four days of the Symposium, followed by a Registration form and information. You also can get complete details, and complete an on-line Symposium Registration form on our WWW site at "http://www.ieee.org/comsoc/NOMS-96.html" Come to NOMS '96 and be a part of "Managing the Global Information Ag= e." Masayoshi Ejiri & Shri Goyal, NOMS `96 General Co-Chairs =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Program-At-A-Glance Monday, April 15th 12NOON - 6:00PM: Registration 1:30PM - 5:30PM Tutorial 1: Telecommunications Information Networking Architecture (TINA), Building the Future Information Marketplace; Room C: Edinburgh-W (Not= e) Tutorial 2: ATM Platform Management ATM Forum Ambassador Program; Room D: Edinburgh-E (Note) Tutorial 3: Management Platforms: Operability, Interoperability and Portability Room F: Sujaku (Note) Tuesday, April 16th 7:30AM - 8:30PM: Registration 8:30AM - 12NOON Tutorial 4: NMF - Solutions For Today's Global Telecom Providers Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Tutorial 5: Wireless Personal Communications: Architectures, Standards, and Network Management; Room B: Buckingham-E (Note) Tutorial 6: Disaster Recovery I; Room C: Edinburgh-W (No= te) Part-1: The Impact of the Kobe Earthquake on Corporate Networks Part-2: Damage from the Kobe Earthquake and NTT's Restoration Activities 1:30PM - 5:30PM Tutorial 7: Telecommunications Management Network (TMN): Standards, Implementations, and Applications; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Tutorial 8: Process Reengineering Applied to Network Management Room B: Buckingham-E (Note) Tutorial 9: Disaster Recovery II; Room C: Edinburgh-W (Note) Part-1: Measures to Limiting Damage to International Telecommunication Services during and after the Kobe Earthquake Part-2: The Impact on Telecommunications of Recent Earthquakes in California 7:00PM - 8:30PM: Welcome Reception at the Kyoto Park Hotel; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Wednesday, April 17th 7:00AM - 5:00PM: Registration 8:30AM - 10:00AM Session 1 - Keynote Session: Managing the Global Information Age; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Rudolph J. Frank, AT&T Network Systems, USA Sadahiko Kano, NTT, Japan Roberto Saracco, CSELT, Italy 10:00AM - 1:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E (Note) 10:00AM - 10:30AM: Tea and Coffee Break 10:30AM - 12NOON Session 2: Enterprise Network Management; Room A: Buckingham-W (Not= e) Session 3: Management Architectures & Frameworks; Room B: Buckingham-E (Note) Session 4: End-to-End Interoperability; Room C: Edinburgh-W 12NOON - 1:30PM: Lunch Break (Lunch not included in registration fee) 1:30PM - 3:00PM Session 5: Distributed Network & Service Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 6: TMN/CORBA Integration; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 7: Interdomain Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W 3:00PM - 6:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E 3:00PM - 3:30PM: Tea and Coffee Break 3:30PM - 5:30PM Session 8: Broadband Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 9: Platform Experience; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 10: Network Reliability & Survivability; Room C: Edinburgh-= W 5:30PM - 7:00PM: Poster Session/ Birds-of-a-Feather Session; Room C: Edinburgh-W 7:00PM: Symposium Banquet at the Kyoto Park Hotel; Room A/B: Buckingham-W/= E Thursday, April 18th 7:00AM - 5:00PM: Registration 8:30AM - 10:00AM Session 11 - Distinguished Experts Panel I: Can We Really Manage the Global Information Age?; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Beth Adams, Lawrence Bernstein, Peter Beevor, Salah Aidarous, Yoshimi Teshigawara 10:00AM - 1:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E 10:00AM - 10:30AM: Tea and Coffee Break 10:30AM - 12NOON Session 12: Business & Service Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 13: Distributed System Management; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 14: Access Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W 12NOON - 1:30PM: Lunch Break (Lunch not included in registration fee) 1:30PM - 3:00PM Session 15: Software Technology for Service Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 16: TMN; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 17: Multi-media Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W 3:00PM - 6:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E 3:00PM - 3:30PM: Tea and Coffee Break 3:30PM - 5:30PM Session 18: Prototyping & User Interfaces; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 19: Fault/Trouble Management; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 20: Traffic & Performance Management 5:30PM - 7:00PM: Poster Session; Room E: Horikawa 5:30PM - 9:00PM Birds-of-a-Feather Session; Rooms A, B & C: Buckingham-W, Buckingham-E & Edinburgh-W =46riday, April 19 7:30AM - 12NOON: Registration 8:30AM - 10:00AM Session 21: Managing the Transition; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 22: Management Information Modelling; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 23: Services Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W (Note) 10:00AM - 10:30AM: Tea and Coffee Break 10:30AM - 12NOON Session 24 - Distinguished Experts Panel II: Challenges from the Evolving Telecommunications Infrastructure; Room A: Buckingham-W Terry Carlin, Robbie Cohen, Zach Gilstein, Sadahiko Kano, Shaygan Kheradpir, Jong-Tae Park 12NOON - 1:30PM: Lunch Break (Lunch not included in registration fee) 1:00PM - 7:00PM: Technical Visit, Kansai Science City NOTE: Room assignments are subject to change. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Registration =46ax to: NOMS '96 Registration Manager Fax number: +81 3 3273 2445 or via mail to... Ms. Chizuko Asamizu, Registration Manager NOMS '96 Registration Office, c/o ICS Inc. 2-14-9, Nihonbashi, Chuo-ku Tokyo, 103 Japan Tel: +81 3 3272 8035 Personal Details Dr, Prof, Mr, Mrs, Miss Surname/Family Name: =46irst Name: Badge Name (if different from First Name): Designation: Company/Organization: Street: Room/Apt. Number: City: State/Province: Postal Code: Country: Business Telephone Number: Home Telephone Number: =46ax Number (see Note 7 below): E-mail address: Guest Surname/Family Name: Guest First Name: I have special dietary or access needs. Please explain requirements (e.g., vegetarian meals, wheel chair ramps, etc.): I'll be attending as a __Delegate __Author __Session Chair __ Exhibitor __Speaker And I am a member of: __IEEE __IEICE __IPSJ __ORS My Member number is: (Attendees wishing to join one of these organization to enjoy the discounted Member Registration prices (see below), should attach a copy of the completed application with this Registration Form.) Registration Fees - - - - - - - -On or Before March 1 -[After March 1] Symposium (see Note 1, below) IEEE Member - - - - - - - - - -Y65,000 - [Y80,000] IEICE, IPSJ, ORSJ Member - Y70,000 - [Y85,000] STUDENT MEMBER - - - - - Y25,000 - [Y25,000] Non-Member- - - - - - - - - - -Y75,000 - [Y90,000] Tutorials see Note 2, below. One Tutorial - - - - - - - - - - - Y20,000 Two Tutorials - - - - - - - - - -Y35,000 Three Tutorials - - - - - - - - - -Y45,000 Best-Buy Package,.- - - - - - - -Y35,000 see Note 3, below Three Tutorials (Requires Symposium Registration Fee) Please check all the Tutorials you plan to attend. (You can select only one for each time period.) Monday, April 15 PM: __Tl __ T2 __ T3 Tuesday, April 16 AM: __T4 __T5 __T6 Tuesday, April 16 PM: __T7 __T8 __T9 Guest Fee. with paid Symposium attendee - - - - - - - - Y15,000 (see Note 3, below) Other Options Symposium Record Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y7,500 Non-Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y9,000 Symposium Record Mailing Fee Mail Record to address in Japan - - - - - Y2,= 000 Mail Record to address outside Japan - Y11,00= 0 Tutorial Notes, see Note 5, below. Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y3,000 Non-Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y5,000 Total (in Japanese Yen only) : =A5____________ [code: A11 e-mail] Please total all items selected above and enter value. (No refunds after April 1, 1996) Payment Options __ Check or draft will be sent via mail with copy of this Registration =46orm. (See Notes below.) __ Bank Remittance; Bank Account Specified: 1) Bank: - - - - - - - - - - - - Bank of Tokyo 2) Branch: - - - - - - - - - - - Marunouchi Branch 3) Name of Account:- - - NOMS'96 4) Number: - - - - - - - - - - Ordinary 1234161 __ VISA __MasterCard __American Express Card Number: Card Expiration Date Signature: Date of Signature: Important Notes Make cheques and bank drafts payable to NOMS `96 or enter credit card information above. All cheques and drafts must be drawn on a Japanese bank and in Yen. All credit-card payments accepted in Yen only. 1. Symposium Registration includes all Plenary Sessions, all Technical Sessions, Technical Visit, Symposium Record, Welcome Reception and Banquet. It does not include Tutorials. Return to Symposium Registration. 2. Tutorials: You can register for one or more Tutorials without paying the Symposium Registration fee, or in addition to the appropriate Symposium Registration fee. Tutorial Registration includes Tutorial Record (for each Tutorial attended). It does not include Technical Sessions, Technical Visit, Welcome Reception and Banquet. Return to Tutorials. 3. The Best-Buy Package allows you to attend three tutorials for the price of two, when you also pay the appropriate Symposium Registration fee. The Best-Buy Package includes all,Symposium and Tutorial benefits listed above. Return to Tutorials. 4. Guest attendance only available when accompanying a paid Symposium Registration fee. Guest Fee includes Welcome Reception and Banquet. Return to Guest. 5. Tutorial Notes available on site only; subject to availability. Tutorial Notes are included with each Tutorial registration. Return to Records. 6. Refund Policy: There is a Y10,000 cancellation fee for all paid registrations. NOMS '96 must receive a written cancellation notice no later than March 1, 1996 to remit a refund minus the cancellation fee. Refunds will not be made after March 1, 1996. 7. All Registration Acknowledgements will be sent via fax. Please be sure to supply your fax number on the form above. Registration will not be acknowledged until payment is received. Clark DesSoye, Marketing Manager Tel: +1 212 705 8247 | Fax: +1 212 705 7865 E-mail: c.dessoye@ieee.org URL: http://www.ieee.org/comsoc c/o IEEE Communications Society 345 East 47th Street New York, NY 10017-2394 U.S.A.   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa00401; 1 Mar 96 13:34 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa00397; 1 Mar 96 13:34 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa10821; 1 Mar 96 13:34 EST Received: from park.interport.net ("port 55990"@park.interport.net) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I1TK84F2QO9QVO2V@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from park.interport.net ("port 55990"@park.interport.net) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I1TK82X82Y9QVEKW@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from fs2.purelogic.com (fs2.purelogic.com [204.180.198.2]) by park.interport.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26218; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from FS2/SpoolDir by fs2.purelogic.com (Mercury 1.21); Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from SpoolDir by FS2 (Mercury 1.21); Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:13:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:16:17 -0500 (EST) Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: wc05@gte.com To: ietf-madman@innosoft.com Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: <199603011816.NAA26218@park.interport.net> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From uucp.purelogic.com!nms-owner Fri Mar 01 13:14:16 1996 remote from uucp Received: by uucp.purelogic.com (UUPC/extended 1.12r); Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:14:16 -0500 Message-ID: <31373e78.uucp@uucp.purelogic.com> Received: from SpoolDir by FS2 (Mercury 1.21); 1 Mar 96 13:10:18 EST Received: from duct.mail.pipex.net by fs2.purelogic.com (Mercury 1.21); 1 Mar 96 13:09:14 EST Received: from netmgrs.co.uk (actually zebedee.netmgrs.co.uk) by duct.mail.pipex.net with SMTP (PP); Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:09:52 +0000 Received: by netmgrs.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00646; Fri, 1 Mar 96 16:56:19 GMT X-Sender: wc05@pophost.gte.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:15:44 -0500 To: ifip-nm@bbn.com, cnom@maestro.bellcore.com, nmf-members@nmf.com, netmgt@ncri.com, sig-dsm@doc.imperial.ac.uk, netmgt@ncri.com, enternet@bbn.com, dsm@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, nmsig@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, aow-nmsig@stc.ipa.go.jp, ewos-egnm@extend.iihe.ac.be, snmsigl@nemo.ncsl.nist.gov, noms96@joker.bellcore.com, corpcom@osf.org, nmf-members@nmf.org, ifip-emailmgt@ics.uci.edu, snmp@psi.com, nadism@mbunix.mitre.org, mitre-osi@bistromath.mitre.org, nsm-info@gateway.mitre.org, x3t54@mbunix.mitre.org, nmsig@ics.uci.edu, rwnmcc@external.iihe.rtt.be, OSIMIS@cs.ucl.ac.uk, ietf-madman@innosoft.com, nms@netmgrs.co.uk, iimc@thumper.bellcore.com, OVForum@andrew.cmu.edu, ieeetcpc@ccvm.sunysb.edu, commsoft@cc.bellcore.com, comswtc@gmu.edu, isinm97_oc@ctr.columbia.edu, news.announce.conferences@netmgrs.co.uk, ieee.announce@gte.com, comp.protocols.snmp@netmgrs.co.uk, comp.protocols.iso@gte.com, comp.org.ieee@netmgrs.co.uk From: wc05@gte.com (Wilfredine Chiasson) Subject: Invitation/NOMS '96, Kyoto, April 15-19, 1996 Sender: nms-owner@netmgrs.co.uk Precedence: bulk Your Invitation to Attend NOMS `96 IEEE/IFIP 1996 Network Operations and Management Symposium Kyoto, Japan - - - April 15 - 19, 1996 Dear Colleagues: Join us and your colleagues at NOMS '96, the fifth biennial symposium in the rapidly evolving area of network operations and management. NOMS is one of the premier symposia in our profession and is held in the even-numbered years in collaboration with IEEE CNOM and IFIP Working Group 6.6. It is an excellent forum for learning and sharing ideas and experiences with other practitioners and organizations. NOMS '96 features an outstanding program with twenty-one technical sessions on important topics and three plenary sessions: one session with three Keynote speakers providing vision into the future, and two Distinguished Experts Panel Sessions with participation of exceptional talent. The symposium will also offer timely and highly relevant tutorials by subject matter experts on current topics. In addition, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions will provide the opportunity to participate in ad hoc focused discussion groups. There will be Poster Sessions to discuss late breaking topics and to encourage one-on-one and detailed technical interactions. Demonstrations will feature state-of-the-art ideas in network management. The city of Kyoto is prepared to welcome you and to provide you the cultural experience of a lifetime. Strategically located within the city, the Kyoto Park Hotel is an outstanding setting for the symposium, central to all major historical sites in the Kyoto area, and an ideal place to experience the delightful flavor of traditional Japanese culture and attractions. Below you will find a listing of all the technical events during the four days of the Symposium, followed by a Registration form and information. You also can get complete details, and complete an on-line Symposium Registration form on our WWW site at "http://www.ieee.org/comsoc/NOMS-96.html" Come to NOMS '96 and be a part of "Managing the Global Information Ag= e." Masayoshi Ejiri & Shri Goyal, NOMS `96 General Co-Chairs =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Program-At-A-Glance Monday, April 15th 12NOON - 6:00PM: Registration 1:30PM - 5:30PM Tutorial 1: Telecommunications Information Networking Architecture (TINA), Building the Future Information Marketplace; Room C: Edinburgh-W (Not= e) Tutorial 2: ATM Platform Management ATM Forum Ambassador Program; Room D: Edinburgh-E (Note) Tutorial 3: Management Platforms: Operability, Interoperability and Portability Room F: Sujaku (Note) Tuesday, April 16th 7:30AM - 8:30PM: Registration 8:30AM - 12NOON Tutorial 4: NMF - Solutions For Today's Global Telecom Providers Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Tutorial 5: Wireless Personal Communications: Architectures, Standards, and Network Management; Room B: Buckingham-E (Note) Tutorial 6: Disaster Recovery I; Room C: Edinburgh-W (No= te) Part-1: The Impact of the Kobe Earthquake on Corporate Networks Part-2: Damage from the Kobe Earthquake and NTT's Restoration Activities 1:30PM - 5:30PM Tutorial 7: Telecommunications Management Network (TMN): Standards, Implementations, and Applications; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Tutorial 8: Process Reengineering Applied to Network Management Room B: Buckingham-E (Note) Tutorial 9: Disaster Recovery II; Room C: Edinburgh-W (Note) Part-1: Measures to Limiting Damage to International Telecommunication Services during and after the Kobe Earthquake Part-2: The Impact on Telecommunications of Recent Earthquakes in California 7:00PM - 8:30PM: Welcome Reception at the Kyoto Park Hotel; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Wednesday, April 17th 7:00AM - 5:00PM: Registration 8:30AM - 10:00AM Session 1 - Keynote Session: Managing the Global Information Age; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Rudolph J. Frank, AT&T Network Systems, USA Sadahiko Kano, NTT, Japan Roberto Saracco, CSELT, Italy 10:00AM - 1:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E (Note) 10:00AM - 10:30AM: Tea and Coffee Break 10:30AM - 12NOON Session 2: Enterprise Network Management; Room A: Buckingham-W (Not= e) Session 3: Management Architectures & Frameworks; Room B: Buckingham-E (Note) Session 4: End-to-End Interoperability; Room C: Edinburgh-W 12NOON - 1:30PM: Lunch Break (Lunch not included in registration fee) 1:30PM - 3:00PM Session 5: Distributed Network & Service Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 6: TMN/CORBA Integration; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 7: Interdomain Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W 3:00PM - 6:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E 3:00PM - 3:30PM: Tea and Coffee Break 3:30PM - 5:30PM Session 8: Broadband Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 9: Platform Experience; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 10: Network Reliability & Survivability; Room C: Edinburgh-= W 5:30PM - 7:00PM: Poster Session/ Birds-of-a-Feather Session; Room C: Edinburgh-W 7:00PM: Symposium Banquet at the Kyoto Park Hotel; Room A/B: Buckingham-W/= E Thursday, April 18th 7:00AM - 5:00PM: Registration 8:30AM - 10:00AM Session 11 - Distinguished Experts Panel I: Can We Really Manage the Global Information Age?; Room A: Buckingham-W (Note) Beth Adams, Lawrence Bernstein, Peter Beevor, Salah Aidarous, Yoshimi Teshigawara 10:00AM - 1:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E 10:00AM - 10:30AM: Tea and Coffee Break 10:30AM - 12NOON Session 12: Business & Service Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 13: Distributed System Management; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 14: Access Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W 12NOON - 1:30PM: Lunch Break (Lunch not included in registration fee) 1:30PM - 3:00PM Session 15: Software Technology for Service Management; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 16: TMN; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 17: Multi-media Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W 3:00PM - 6:30PM: Demonstrations; Room D: Edinburgh-E 3:00PM - 3:30PM: Tea and Coffee Break 3:30PM - 5:30PM Session 18: Prototyping & User Interfaces; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 19: Fault/Trouble Management; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 20: Traffic & Performance Management 5:30PM - 7:00PM: Poster Session; Room E: Horikawa 5:30PM - 9:00PM Birds-of-a-Feather Session; Rooms A, B & C: Buckingham-W, Buckingham-E & Edinburgh-W =46riday, April 19 7:30AM - 12NOON: Registration 8:30AM - 10:00AM Session 21: Managing the Transition; Room A: Buckingham-W Session 22: Management Information Modelling; Room B: Buckingham-E Session 23: Services Management; Room C: Edinburgh-W (Note) 10:00AM - 10:30AM: Tea and Coffee Break 10:30AM - 12NOON Session 24 - Distinguished Experts Panel II: Challenges from the Evolving Telecommunications Infrastructure; Room A: Buckingham-W Terry Carlin, Robbie Cohen, Zach Gilstein, Sadahiko Kano, Shaygan Kheradpir, Jong-Tae Park 12NOON - 1:30PM: Lunch Break (Lunch not included in registration fee) 1:00PM - 7:00PM: Technical Visit, Kansai Science City NOTE: Room assignments are subject to change. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Registration =46ax to: NOMS '96 Registration Manager Fax number: +81 3 3273 2445 or via mail to... Ms. Chizuko Asamizu, Registration Manager NOMS '96 Registration Office, c/o ICS Inc. 2-14-9, Nihonbashi, Chuo-ku Tokyo, 103 Japan Tel: +81 3 3272 8035 Personal Details Dr, Prof, Mr, Mrs, Miss Surname/Family Name: =46irst Name: Badge Name (if different from First Name): Designation: Company/Organization: Street: Room/Apt. Number: City: State/Province: Postal Code: Country: Business Telephone Number: Home Telephone Number: =46ax Number (see Note 7 below): E-mail address: Guest Surname/Family Name: Guest First Name: I have special dietary or access needs. Please explain requirements (e.g., vegetarian meals, wheel chair ramps, etc.): I'll be attending as a __Delegate __Author __Session Chair __ Exhibitor __Speaker And I am a member of: __IEEE __IEICE __IPSJ __ORS My Member number is: (Attendees wishing to join one of these organization to enjoy the discounted Member Registration prices (see below), should attach a copy of the completed application with this Registration Form.) Registration Fees - - - - - - - -On or Before March 1 -[After March 1] Symposium (see Note 1, below) IEEE Member - - - - - - - - - -Y65,000 - [Y80,000] IEICE, IPSJ, ORSJ Member - Y70,000 - [Y85,000] STUDENT MEMBER - - - - - Y25,000 - [Y25,000] Non-Member- - - - - - - - - - -Y75,000 - [Y90,000] Tutorials see Note 2, below. One Tutorial - - - - - - - - - - - Y20,000 Two Tutorials - - - - - - - - - -Y35,000 Three Tutorials - - - - - - - - - -Y45,000 Best-Buy Package,.- - - - - - - -Y35,000 see Note 3, below Three Tutorials (Requires Symposium Registration Fee) Please check all the Tutorials you plan to attend. (You can select only one for each time period.) Monday, April 15 PM: __Tl __ T2 __ T3 Tuesday, April 16 AM: __T4 __T5 __T6 Tuesday, April 16 PM: __T7 __T8 __T9 Guest Fee. with paid Symposium attendee - - - - - - - - Y15,000 (see Note 3, below) Other Options Symposium Record Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y7,500 Non-Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y9,000 Symposium Record Mailing Fee Mail Record to address in Japan - - - - - Y2,= 000 Mail Record to address outside Japan - Y11,00= 0 Tutorial Notes, see Note 5, below. Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y3,000 Non-Member - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Y5,000 Total (in Japanese Yen only) : =A5____________ [code: A11 e-mail] Please total all items selected above and enter value. (No refunds after April 1, 1996) Payment Options __ Check or draft will be sent via mail with copy of this Registration =46orm. (See Notes below.) __ Bank Remittance; Bank Account Specified: 1) Bank: - - - - - - - - - - - - Bank of Tokyo 2) Branch: - - - - - - - - - - - Marunouchi Branch 3) Name of Account:- - - NOMS'96 4) Number: - - - - - - - - - - Ordinary 1234161 __ VISA __MasterCard __American Express Card Number: Card Expiration Date Signature: Date of Signature: Important Notes Make cheques and bank drafts payable to NOMS `96 or enter credit card information above. All cheques and drafts must be drawn on a Japanese bank and in Yen. All credit-card payments accepted in Yen only. 1. Symposium Registration includes all Plenary Sessions, all Technical Sessions, Technical Visit, Symposium Record, Welcome Reception and Banquet. It does not include Tutorials. Return to Symposium Registration. 2. Tutorials: You can register for one or more Tutorials without paying the Symposium Registration fee, or in addition to the appropriate Symposium Registration fee. Tutorial Registration includes Tutorial Record (for each Tutorial attended). It does not include Technical Sessions, Technical Visit, Welcome Reception and Banquet. Return to Tutorials. 3. The Best-Buy Package allows you to attend three tutorials for the price of two, when you also pay the appropriate Symposium Registration fee. The Best-Buy Package includes all,Symposium and Tutorial benefits listed above. Return to Tutorials. 4. Guest attendance only available when accompanying a paid Symposium Registration fee. Guest Fee includes Welcome Reception and Banquet. Return to Guest. 5. Tutorial Notes available on site only; subject to availability. Tutorial Notes are included with each Tutorial registration. Return to Records. 6. Refund Policy: There is a Y10,000 cancellation fee for all paid registrations. NOMS '96 must receive a written cancellation notice no later than March 1, 1996 to remit a refund minus the cancellation fee. Refunds will not be made after March 1, 1996. 7. All Registration Acknowledgements will be sent via fax. Please be sure to supply your fax number on the form above. Registration will not be acknowledged until payment is received. Clark DesSoye, Marketing Manager Tel: +1 212 705 8247 | Fax: +1 212 705 7865 E-mail: c.dessoye@ieee.org URL: http://www.ieee.org/comsoc c/o IEEE Communications Society 345 East 47th Street New York, NY 10017-2394 U.S.A.   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A fuller set of details can be found on the WWW. (http:/www.ieee.org/comsoc/NOMS-96.html) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Theme: Managing the Global Information Age Message from the General Co-Chairs: An Invitation to Attend NOMS `96 Join us and your colleagues at NOMS '96, the fifth biennial symposium in the rapidly evolving area of network operations and management. NOMS is one of the premier symposia in our profession and is held in the even-numbered years in collaboration with IEEE CNOM and IFIP Working Group 6.6. It is an excellent forum for learning and sharing ideas and experiences with other practitioners and organizations. NOMS '96 features an outstanding program with twenty-one technical sessions on important topics and three plenary sessions: one session with three Keynote speakers providing vision into the future, and two Distinguished Experts Panel Sessions with participation of exceptional talent. The symposium will also offer timely and highly relevant tutorials by subject matter experts on current topics. In addition, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions will provide the opportunity to participate in ad hoc focused discussion groups. There will be Poster Sessions to discuss late breaking topics and to encourage one-on-one and detailed technical interactions. Demonstrations will feature state-of-the-art ideas in network management. The city of Kyoto is prepared to welcome you and to provide you the cultural experience of a lifetime. Strategically located within the city, the Kyoto Park Hotel is an outstanding setting for the symposium, central to all major historical sites in the Kyoto area, and an ideal place to experience the delightful flavor of traditional Japanese culture and attractions. 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Tutorial Registration includes Tutorial Record (for each Tutorial attended). It does not include Technical Sessions, Technical Visit, Welcome Reception and Banquet. Return to Tutorials. 3. The Best-Buy Package allows you to attend three tutorials for the price of two, when you also pay the appropriate Symposium Registration fee. The Best-Buy Package includes all Symposium and Tutorial benefits listed above. Return to Tutorials. 4. Guest attendance only available when accompanying a paid Symposium Registration fee. Guest Fee includes Welcome Reception and Banquet. Return to Guest. 5. Tutorial Notes available on site only; subject to availability. Tutorial Notes are included with each Tutorial registration. Return to Records. 6. Refund Policy: There is a Y10,000 cancellation fee for all paid registrations. NOMS '96 must receive a written cancellation notice no later than March 1, 1996 to remit a refund minus the cancellation fee. Refunds will not be made after March 1, 1996. 7. 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All conference/hotel/tour registrations, remittances and enquiries should be addressed to: Ms. Chizuko Asamizu, Registration Manager   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa16793; 3 Mar 96 20:58 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa16789; 3 Mar 96 20:58 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa12781; 3 Mar 96 20:58 EST Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I1WSOHOU7K9QVVWX@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Sun, 03 Mar 1996 17:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I1WDJ70UGG9QVJ4P@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman@INNOSOFT.COM; Sun, 03 Mar 1996 17:53:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 17:52:18 -0800 (PST) Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Ned Freed Subject: New version of the MTA-MIB document To: ietf-madman@innosoft.com Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: <01I1WSN2BVPQ9QVJ4P@INNOSOFT.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I just finished another round of updates to the MTA-MIB document. An updated copy is available via the old URL: ftp://ftp.innosoft.com/ietf-madman/mta-mib.txt Ned   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa13136; 12 Mar 96 10:49 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa13132; 12 Mar 96 10:49 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa07643; 12 Mar 96 10:49 EST Received: from woozle.isode.com ("port 49287"@woozle.isode.com) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I28S2KT4PS9ZLE32@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 07:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from woozle.isode.com ("port 49287"@woozle.isode.com) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-6 #2001) id <01I28O1O46M89ZLE23@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman@INNOSOFT.COM; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 05:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from isode.com (actually woozle.isode.com) by woozle.isode.com with SMTP (local); Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:45:23 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:45:16 +0000 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Steve Kille Subject: MADMAN Minutes To: ietf-madman@innosoft.com, minutes@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: <27267.826638316@isode.com> Content-id: <27266.826638314.0@isode.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID Huqf1arCsaK0j4sWSDxncg)" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Phone: +44-181-332-9091 --Boundary (ID Huqf1arCsaK0j4sWSDxncg) Content-id: <27266.826638314.1@isode.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am pleased to report that, despite short notice on the documents and no agenda in advance, that we had a very productive meeting in LA. The results of this are clearly summarized in the attached minutes from Kevin Jordan (thanks for these excellent minutes). I went into the meeeting with the belief that there were a number of issues which would be hard to handle. All of the open items had productive and clear discussion leading to sensible resolution with a high degree of consensus. I am confident that we will be able to get these documents rapidly put to bed. Steve Kille --Boundary (ID Huqf1arCsaK0j4sWSDxncg) Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Return-path: Received: from wally.udev.cdc.com (actually ip129179-91-51.cdc.com) by woozle.isode.com with Internet SMTP (IC MTA); Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:43:46 +0000 Received: from mercury91.udev.cdc.com by wally.udev.cdc.com; Sun, 10 Mar 96 12:46:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by mercury.udev.cdc.com; Sun, 10 Mar 96 12:43:24 -0600 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 12:43:23 -0600 From: Kevin Jordan Subject: Reply to Madman Minutes In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Mar 96 16:35:12 GMT" <801.826302912@isode.com> To: Steve Kille Message-id: <314322cc6a91002@mercury.udev.cdc.com> Delivery-date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:43:54 +0000 Replied: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:39:24 +0000 Replied: Kevin Jordan Replied: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:43:36 +0000 Replied: Kevin Jordan Minutes of MADMAN Working Group 35th IETF Los Angeles, California USA Wednesday, March 6, 1996 Working Group Chair: Steve Kille, ISODE Consortium, Ltd. Minutes taken by: Kevin Jordan, Control Data Systems, Inc. 1. The minutes of the previous meeting in Dallas were approved. 2. The agenda of the current meeting was approved. 3. Network Application MIB. The group discussed the relationship between the System Application MIB and the Network Application MIB. A network application could be defined as a subclass of the generic system application class, so the System Application MIB could reference the Network Application MIB in order to realize this hierarchical relationship. It was decided that the Network Application MIB specification will be updated to include text which describes its relationship to the System Application MIB and also the Host Resources MIB. The MIB itself will not be updated to include any new variables or any direct reference to these other MIB's. 4. Directory MIB. This MIB is stable and will be progressed onto the standards track. However, support for URL's may be added (see point 6). 5. Mail MIB. Changes have been made to this MIB, primarily to reflect comments and recommendations made by EMA (the Electronic Messaging Association). The editor solicits comments against the new draft, especially regarding the new text about conversions and routing loops. Improvements in monitoring of messaging failures are desirable. However, making the Mail MIB substantially more complex to support these improvements is not desirable. Steve and Ned will work together to define and specify some more failure counters in the MIB (but not very many more). The Mail MIB specification will be upated to clarify how group hierarchies can be defined, and some examples will be provided to show how they are useful. 6. URL's. Support for specification of URL's will be added to each of the MIB's where it makes sense. 7. Traps. The current MIB specifications will not be updated to include any specific support for traps. Instead, if there is sufficient interest amongst the working group membership, support for traps will be explored and specified via separate, experimental documents. 8. Future status. MADMAN will not meet again face to face. All outstanding work will be completed via e-mail using the MADMAN distribution list. Summary of action items: - Ned will update the Network Application MIB specification to describe its relationship to the System Application and Host Resources MIB's. - Ned will update the MIB's to include support for URL's where appropriate. - Steve and Ned will work together to define and document some more counters in the Mail MIB for monitoring messaging failures. - Ned will update the Mail MIB to clarify how group hierarchies are defined and used. --Boundary (ID Huqf1arCsaK0j4sWSDxncg)--   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa26649; 21 Mar 96 14:31 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa26644; 21 Mar 96 14:31 EST Received: from [192.160.253.66] by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa12511; 21 Mar 96 14:31 EST Received: from sooner.onramp.net (root@sooner.onramp.net) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2LKDWHUY8A8CGOV@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sooner.onramp.net (root@sooner.onramp.net) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2LKDTZAXQA8CE33@INNOSOFT.COM>; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cwk@localhost) by sooner.onramp.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA01528; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:22:55 -0600 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:22:55 -0600 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: "Carl W. Kalbfleisch" Subject: [saperia@bgs.com: Re: Clarification on v2 framework references...] To: ietf-madman@innosoft.com Cc: NED@innosoft.com Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Reply-to: cwk@onramp.net Message-id: <199603212022.OAA01528@sooner.onramp.net> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Below is a message I sent to applmib WG mailing list along with Jon Saperia's reply. I beleive the same applies to the latest draft-ietf-madman-nsm-mib.01.txt (and other drafts/rfcs in the pipe) as well, except that the framework is section three in the NSM document. Carl -- Return-Path: saperia@bgs.com To: cwk@onramp.net Cc: applmib@emi-summit.com, saperia@bgs.com, jon1@bae.bellcore.com, cheryl@empiretech.com, sturm@emi-summit.com Subject: Re: Clarification on v2 framework references... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 21 Mar 1996 12:45:20 CST." <199603211845.MAA01428@sooner.onramp.net> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:00:36 -0500 From: "Jon Saperia" Carl, > The sysapplmib draft references the v2 framework in section 2. > In the list of references, it indicates RFC-1445 is the admin > framework. Isn't that RFC now historic? The list also > references 1442 which is obsoleted by 1902 and 1448 which > is obsoleted by 1905. Finally, just before the list there > is text that says there are "four major components", but the > list has THIRTEEN items. > I have copied Jon W. on this so that he can incorporate these comments into the revision of the draft he is working on. It is my view that: 1. You are correct about the RFC references. We knew about this earlier but decided to wait until a bit later. It is now later. The rfcs which should be referenced as the framework are: 1901 - 1908 Introduction to Community-based SNMPv2 Structure of Management Information for Version 2 of the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMPv2) Textual Conventions for Version 2 of the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMPv2) Conformance Statements for Version 2 of the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMPv2) Protocol Operations for Version 2 of the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMPv2) Transport Mappings for Version 2 of the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMPv2) Management Information Base for Version 2 of the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMPv2) Coexistence between Version 1 and Version 2 of the Internet-standard Network Management Framework Have I missed any? /jon -- Carl W. Kalbfleisch Senior Software Engineer On-Ramp Technologies, Inc. http://www.onramp.net/~cwk/   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa10303; 27 Mar 96 4:22 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa10296; 27 Mar 96 4:22 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03292; 27 Mar 96 4:22 EST Received: from domen.uninett.no ("port 2389"@domen.uninett.no) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2TCW8AUTSA8CQKP@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 01:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from domen.uninett.no ("port 2389"@domen.uninett.no) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2TCW5J6VGA8CSK3@INNOSOFT.COM>; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 01:17:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from dale.uninett.no by domen.uninett.no with SMTP (PP) id <17514-0@domen.uninett.no>; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:16:41 +0100 Received: from dale.uninett.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dale.uninett.no (8.6.9/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA02074; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:41:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:41:20 +0100 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no Subject: Re: [saperia@bgs.com: Re: Clarification on v2 framework references...] In-reply-to: "Your message of Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:22:55 CST." <199603212022.OAA01528@sooner.onramp.net> X-Orig-Sender: hta@dale.uninett.no To: cwk@onramp.net Cc: ietf-madman@innosoft.com, NED@innosoft.com Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: <199603262141.WAA02074@dale.uninett.no> Content-id: <2070.827876480.1@dale.uninett.no> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I would advise avoiding referrals to the "introduction" document (which is Experimental, with good reason) if at all possible. The MIBs should have no need to talk about what encapsulation is used with their data. Apart from that - yes, the references need changing. Harald A   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa16468; 27 Mar 96 10:12 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa16464; 27 Mar 96 10:12 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa07797; 27 Mar 96 10:12 EST Received: from uu10.psi.com ("port 3933"@uu10.psi.com) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2TP2Z1KR4A8CTK0@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from uu10.psi.com ("port 3933"@uu10.psi.com) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2TP2XTMYUA8CSIU@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman@INNOSOFT.COM; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from acec.com by uu10.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA03394 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:49:50 -0500 Received: from natale by nips.acec.com (5.65/3.2.083191-American Computer and Electronics Corp. ) id AA13740; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:50:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:51:29 -0500 (EST) Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Bob Natale Subject: Re: [saperia@bgs.com: Re: Clarification on v2 framework references...] To: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no Cc: ietf-madman@innosoft.com Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: Normal > From: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:41:20 +0100 Hi Harald, > I would advise avoiding referrals to the "introduction" document > (which is Experimental, with good reason) if at all possible. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Please elaborate. Cordially, BobN ------- WinSNMP DLL, SDK, and Applets for Win16 and Win32 ------ Bob Natale | ACE*COMM | 301-258-9850 [v] Dir, Net Mgmt Prod | 209 Perry Pkwy | 301-921-0434 [f] natale@acec.com | Gaithersburg MD 20877 | http://www.acec.com ------- NetPlus (r) "FCAPS" Telemanagement Applications --------   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa20925; 27 Mar 96 12:51 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa20921; 27 Mar 96 12:51 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa10367; 27 Mar 96 12:51 EST Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2TUN4ZLR4A8CQKP@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2TTHEU7KWA8CVNY@INNOSOFT.COM>; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:45:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:45:09 -0800 (PST) Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Ned Freed Subject: Re: [saperia@bgs.com: Re: Clarification on v2 framework references...] In-reply-to: "Your message dated Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:41:20 +0100" <199603262141.WAA02074@dale.uninett.no> To: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no Cc: cwk@onramp.net, ietf-madman@innosoft.com, NED@innosoft.com Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: <01I2TUN35FFIA8CVNY@INNOSOFT.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <199603212022.OAA01528@sooner.onramp.net> > I would advise avoiding referrals to the "introduction" document > (which is Experimental, with good reason) if at all possible. > The MIBs should have no need to talk about what encapsulation > is used with their data. > Apart from that - yes, the references need changing. Please review the updated references in the documents I have posted and see if they are OK. Ned   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa13289; 29 Mar 96 7:17 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa13285; 29 Mar 96 7:17 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa02379; 29 Mar 96 7:17 EST Received: from domen.uninett.no ("port 1596"@domen.uninett.no) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2WB56K9XCA8CVNU@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 03:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from domen.uninett.no ("port 1596"@domen.uninett.no) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2WB542SH0A8CQ52@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 03:59:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from domen.uninett.no by domen.uninett.no with SMTP (PP) id <29790-0@domen.uninett.no>; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:58:51 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:58:49 +0100 Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no Subject: Re: [saperia@bgs.com: Re: Clarification on v2 framework references...] In-reply-to: "Your message of Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:51:29 EST." X-Orig-Sender: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no To: Bob Natale Cc: ietf-madman@innosoft.com Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: <01I2WB54G6QEA8CQ52@INNOSOFT.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Bob Natale: > > I would advise avoiding referrals to the "introduction" document > > (which is Experimental, with good reason) if at all possible. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Please elaborate. Glad to...... The "introduction" document for SNMPv2C, RFC 1901, provides a "security" mechanism for protecting SNMP requests and responses using a cleartext password (the "community string"). This isn't usable security, and is not presented as that in the document. The SNMPv2 group more or less comitted collective suicide over the problem of agreeing to an adequate and manageable solution for SNMP security, leading to the decision at Dallas to progress the rest of SNMPv2 to Draft standard, but to label the "introduction" document as Experimental, because it provided an adequate mechanism for experimenting with the rest of SNMP, but did not provide the full functionality that is necessary for proper management of the Internet. One of the suggested solutions is described in RFCs 1909 and 1910 (the "User-based security model"), but it has not proven possible to gather IETF WG consensus on this solution; another, called "SNMPv2*", is in preparation, I believe. That's *my* capsule description. Others' take may differ. Harald A   Received: from ietf.cnri.reston.va.us by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa20679; 29 Mar 96 12:16 EST Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa20675; 29 Mar 96 12:16 EST Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa06877; 29 Mar 96 12:16 EST Received: from uu10.psi.com ("port 1903"@uu10.psi.com) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2WLXY6US0A8CUIY@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman-list@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from uu10.psi.com ("port 1903"@uu10.psi.com) by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #2001) id <01I2WLXWKG5QA8CQ52@INNOSOFT.COM> for ietf-madman@INNOSOFT.COM; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from acec.com by uu10.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA12995 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:41:54 -0500 Received: from natale by nips.acec.com (5.65/3.2.083191-American Computer and Electronics Corp. ) id AA26459; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:51:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:52:45 -0500 (EST) Sender:ietf-archive-request@IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Bob Natale Subject: Re: Clarification on v2 framework references... To: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no Cc: ietf-madman@innosoft.com Errors-to: ~ned+madman-errors@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: Normal > From: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:58:49 +0100 Hi Harald, > The "introduction" document for SNMPv2C, RFC 1901, provides a > "security" mechanism for protecting SNMP requests and responses > using a cleartext password (the "community string"). > This isn't usable security, Ture, but it is usable SNMP. > and is not presented as that in the document. Precisely. RFC 1901 presents a way to use the many improvements to SNMP embodied in RFCs 1902-1908 in a well-known, well-tested, and highly backward-compatible way. There is nothing experimental about that, IMHO. [Of course, I got beat up the other day on another list for using the term "worthwhile uses" in the context of discussion of a proposed protocol feature and failing to explicitly exclude such worthwhile things as "elimintaing world hunger" and such...so I am sure someone can find *something* experimental to do with RFC 1901! :-] Thank you for the explanation. Cordially, BobN ------- WinSNMP DLL, SDK, and Applets for Win16 and Win32 ------ Bob Natale | ACE*COMM | 301-258-9850 [v] Dir, Net Mgmt Prod | 209 Perry Pkwy | 301-921-0434 [f] natale@acec.com | Gaithersburg MD 20877 | http://www.acec.com ------- NetPlus (r) "FCAPS" Telemanagement Applications --------