
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 11:51:18 -0500
From: "Carl W. Kalbfleisch" <cwk@onramp.net>
Subject: terminology
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In some discussion on the Application MIB WG and WWW-MIB mailing lists,
it has become an issue as to what various groups call an "application".
NSM seems to use the terms "networked applications" and "network service 
applications" interchangeably. Unfortunately, these do not seem to map
to an extention of the sysApplMIB definition of an application. Instead,
they seem to be a "service" view while sysApplMIB is an "implementation"
view in terms of processes.

It would be useful if the APPLICATION-MIB could have a definition of
"network service application" inserted. At the least, it would be
beneficial to have a definition. I am thinking of something like:

A 'network service application' is a realization of some uniquely
addressable service residing on one or more host computers.

Thoughts, comments and clarification on this would be greatly appreciated.

Carl

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From: Harrie Hazewinkel <harrie.hazewinkel@jrc.it>
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Hi,

Sometime ago Carl W. Kalbfleisch asked what is defined as an
'networked applications' and 'network service applications'.

I will add a question to this.

Is a 'networked applications' or 'network service applications'
as used for the APPLICATION-MIB only addessable by 1 single
transport address?


Carl W. Kalbfleisch wrote:
> 
> In some discussion on the Application MIB WG and WWW-MIB mailing lists,
> it has become an issue as to what various groups call an 'application'.
> NSM seems to use the terms 'networked applications' and 'network service
> applications' interchangeably. Unfortunately, these do not seem to map
> to an extention of the sysApplMIB definition of an application. Instead,
> they seem to be a 'service' view while sysApplMIB is an 'implementation'
> view in terms of processes.
> 
> It would be useful if the APPLICATION-MIB could have a definition of
> 'network service application' inserted. At the least, it would be
> beneficial to have a definition. I am thinking of something like:
> 
> A 'network service application' is a realization of some uniquely
> addressable service residing on one or more host computers.
> 
> Thoughts, comments and clarification on this would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Carl
> 
> --
> Carl W. Kalbfleisch            This is the day which the LORD hath made;
> http://www.onramp.net/~cwk/       we will rejoice and be glad in it.
> cwk@onramp.net                              -- Psalm 118:24

Ciao,
Harrie

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Ik ben Harrie en ben 27 jaar en doe SNMP na. MIB, MIB.