Received: from cnri by ietf.org id aa28633; 1 Aug 97 12:18 EDT Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by cnri.reston.va.us (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTPid MAA03366; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:51:30 -0700 Received: from tnt.isi.edu by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:51:29 -0700 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA15115 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from akamai.isi.edu (akamai-a.isi.edu) by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:51:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:55:33 -0700 From: jkrey@isi.edu Posted-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:55:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199708011455.AA07422@akamai.isi.edu> Received: by akamai.isi.edu (5.65c/4.0.3-6) id ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:55:33 -0700 To: uswg@isi.edu Subject: WG ACTION: Humanities and Arts (harts) to conclude Sender: owner-uswg@isi.edu Precedence: bulk ----- Begin Included Message ----- From ietf-announce-request@ietf.org Fri Aug 1 06:45:31 1997 To: IETF-Announce: ; Subject: WG ACTION: Humanities and Arts (harts) to conclude Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 09:41:11 -0400 Sender: ietf-announce-request@ietf.org From: Steve Coya Content-Length: 198 The Humanities and Arts (harts) Working Group of the User Services Areas has concluded. The mailing list will remain active until the end of the year. The IESG contact person is Joyce K. Reynolds ----- End Included Message -----   Received: from cnri by ietf.org id aa10213; 26 Aug 97 13:01 EDT Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by cnri.reston.va.us (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTPid NAA06943; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:46:32 -0700 Received: from tnt.isi.edu by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:46:30 -0700 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA15664; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from akamai.isi.edu (akamai-a.isi.edu) by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:46:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:50:36 -0700 From: jkrey@isi.edu Posted-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:50:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199708261650.AA01691@akamai.isi.edu> Received: by akamai.isi.edu (5.65c/4.0.3-6) id ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:50:36 -0700 To: minutes@ietf.org Subject: USV Area Report - Munich IETF Cc: usac@isi.edu, uswg@isi.edu Sender: owner-uswg@isi.edu Precedence: bulk IETF User Services Area Report Munich, Germany Joyce K. Reynolds (USAD) Six active working groups were held in the User Services Area (USV) of the IETF in Munich, Germany. ========================================================================= Internet School Networking (ISN) session chaired by Jodi Ito and Sepi Boroumand. Reported by Sepi Boroumand. The Internet School Networking Working Group met on Tuesday, August 12, 1997. All attendees made introductions. Mr. K. Fuller made a presentation introducing the group to school networking in Germany. Two secondary school level students shared their experiences of being on the Net and told the group of their school connectivity and activities on the Net. The Help Desk document was reviewed by the group. The time did not allow for a review of the Common Pitfalls document. ========================================================================= Responsible Use of the Network (RUN), chaired by Sally Hambridge and Gary Malkin. Reported by Gary Malkin. The RUN working group met for a 1-hour session. The two topics discussed were the review of the "Don't Spew" Internet Draft and the draft (sent to the mailing list) of the to-be-named advertising document. The "Don't Spew" I-D received mostly editorial and minor modifications. There was additional discussion over the issue of "spam". It was decided to remove the Hormel Trademark because the document clearly states that the term derives from the Monty Python sketch. That Spam is a product of Hormel will be mentioned in the paragraph after the derivation explanation. The advertising draft was well received (with comments, of course). The new working title is "Make Enemies Fast". ========================================================================= Site Security Handbook WG (SSH), chaired by Barbara Fraser. Reported by Barbara Fraser. The SSH working group met across two 1-hour time slots during the Munich IETF. During this time we announced completion of the SSH draft and spent the bulk of the meeting discussing content modifications for the USH draft. The group also heard a presentation suggesting a new document on firewalls. A draft will be prepared in time for discussion at the December IETF meeting. ========================================================================= User Services Working Group (USWG) chaired by Joyce K. Reynolds. A report on IETF User Services Area activities was presented by Joyce Reynolds, which included news on related USV Area FYI RFC publications and current Internet-Drafts since the last IETF. Reports on related global liaison group activities were reported. They included updates of InterNIC activities by Sepi Boroumand (on behalf of Tom Newell) and Internet Scout updates/activities by Amy Wells. George Munroe provided a presentation and discussion on the TERENA/IETF ETINU Project. The rest of the session focused on the USWG's document update project of FYI 4, RFC 1594 ("FYI on Questions and Answers: Answers to Commonly asked "New Internet User" Questions"). This was lead by Sepi Boroumand, with additional assistance by April Marine and USWG attendees. ========================================================================= Guide for Internet Standards Writer WG (STDGuide) This WG is a combined endeavor of the USV and OPS Areas of the IETF. Their summary report has been filed with the OPS Area Report. ========================================================================= Integrated Directory Services WG (IDS) This WG is a combined endeavor of the USV and APPS Areas of the IETF. Their summary report has been filed with the APPS Area Report. =========================================================================   Received: from cnri by ietf.org id aa09741; 27 Aug 97 13:07 EDT Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by cnri.reston.va.us (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTPid NAA10789; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:58:24 -0700 Received: from tnt.isi.edu by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:58:20 -0700 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA18585; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from akamai.isi.edu (akamai-a.isi.edu) by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:58:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:58:16 -0700 From: jkrey@isi.edu Posted-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:58:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199708271658.AA02407@akamai.isi.edu> Received: by akamai.isi.edu (5.65c/4.0.3-6) id ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:58:16 -0700 To: uswg@isi.edu Subject: Progress with the ETINU task force Cc: usac@isi.edu Sender: owner-uswg@isi.edu Precedence: bulk ----- Begin Included Message ----- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:43:56 +0100 Reply-To: George Munroe Sender: "TERENA Task Force on Environment To Inspire Network Users (TF-ETINU)" From: George Munroe Subject: Progress with the ETINU task force To: TF-ETINU@TERENA.NL Just so you don't think we're having a lazy summer :-). Munich IETF TERENA funding Evaluation panel Questionnaire ready Workplan --------------- Munich IETF A presentation was given on ETINU at the user services working group (uswg) meeting at the August IETF in Munich. Response was very positive. Members of uswg have committed to helping distribute the online questionnaire for the survey and in providing feedback on the reports. An update will be given at the December IETF. The 'joint' TERENA/IETF aspect of the task force will be reinforced through the close working of a uswg representative with the task force leaders. --------------- TERENA funding We have applied for four man months funding from TERENA under the small projects initiative to fulfill the following ETINU objectives: o provide evidence of the pressing requirements in user support provision today through conducting an extensive survey using an easy-to-complete electronic questionnaire o use the information gathered in the survey to provide a summary report to promote awareness of the problems and solutions currently being applied o prepare a list of software modules which address the identified requirements of user support and make these modules available to the community via the network o prepare comprehensive recommendations on standards for the implementation of the software modules and disseminate these recommendations widely o involve a large number of user support providers in the development of the final recommendations If successful the funded work will begin in October. All deliverables will be presented before June 1998. --------------- Evaluation panel A number of individuals have been invited, and agreed, to participate in an evaluation panel to provide feedback on the preparation of the final deliverable of the ETINU task force -- a publication outlining software modules for online user support with comprehensive recommendations for their use. The panel is as follows: Dennis Jennings, University College Dublin Tony Barry, Australian National University Jodi Ito, Hawaii University April Marine, NASA Iain Middleton, Robert Gordon University UK Paul Miller, York University UK David Miles, Kings College UK This of course does not mean that others cannot contribute, but it does ensure that some checks and balances are already in place. --------------- Questionnaire ready A proposed online questionnaire is ready for comment. Details will be sent in a follow up message. With general agreement from the list that the content of this questionnaire is appropriate, the survey can begin within the next month. --------------- Workplan ETINU work will proceed in three phases which will be bounded by two IETF meetings in December 1997 and March 1998. 1 October-December 1997 questionnaire distributed electronically to around 1000 recipients draft survey report indicating initial responses 2 January-March 1998 final survey report list of software modules 3 April-May 1998 web site with module repository final recommendations publication including descriptions of software modules with proposed standards --------------- George Munroe Christine Cahoon (ETINU task force leaders) ----- End Included Message -----   Received: from cnri by ietf.org id aa12233; 27 Aug 97 15:32 EDT Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by cnri.reston.va.us (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTPid PAA11409; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:22:37 -0700 Received: from tnt.isi.edu by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:22:36 -0700 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA27487; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from akamai.isi.edu (akamai-a.isi.edu) by zephyr.isi.edu (5.65c/5.61+local-26) id ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:22:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:22:33 -0700 From: jkrey@isi.edu Posted-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:22:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199708271922.AA02492@akamai.isi.edu> Received: by akamai.isi.edu (5.65c/4.0.3-6) id ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:22:33 -0700 To: uswg@isi.edu Subject: Proposed online questionnaire Cc: usac@isi.edu Sender: owner-uswg@isi.edu Precedence: bulk ----- Begin Included Message ----- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:16:38 -0700 Reply-To: Christine Cahoon Sender: "TERENA Task Force on Environment To Inspire Network Users (TF-ETINU)" From: Christine Cahoon Subject: Proposed online questionnaire To: TF-ETINU@TERENA.NL Hi all, The proposed questionnaire for our survey to gather evidence about the problems, solutions and requirements of effective user support is now available for comment. http://www.terena.nl/task-forces/tf-etinu/questionnaire.html Note that the form is currently not active. We don't want you filling it in yet. Let's first agree that the content is right. All feedback to tf-etinu@terena.nl please. Thanks, Christine Cahoon George Munroe (ETINU task force leaders) ----- End Included Message -----